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#kinnporsche episode 10
advesperam · 2 years
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Pete: I want to be the mole.
Kinn: Vegas will torture you if he finds you.
Pete: I fucking hope so
Kinn: What?
Pete: What-
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iwantchurchthecat · 2 years
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Artistic motherfuckery!!!!
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It's so darn fucking explosive with art, color tones, and depth. I don't find any other words than artistic motherfuckery for the masterpiece this show is.
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hilema · 2 years
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Oh, you're still smiling?
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thatgirl4815 · 2 years
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Breaking the Cycle
Vegas’s expression after Pete’s little speech here is so freaking important, because you can tell the thought that it’s not his fault his father beats him has never even crossed his mind. But how will this change him, knowing that Kan’s abuse is not only undeserved, but a reflection of his own trauma? He just needed someone to tell him that his father’s anger isn’t his fault. All it took was this one conversation, because secretly, Vegas has been yearning for someone to release him from his self-hatred for a long time now.
This is one of the reasons Vegas will become even more attached to Pete—because it’s good when you find someone who loves you despite your flaws, but someone who can teach you to love yourself? To accept that you are not always responsible for the pain others have inflicted upon you? That’s even more powerful. 
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And it’s a cycle. Because Vegas is doing to Pete exactly what his father does to him—punishing as an outlet for self-hatred. But Pete is here to break the cycle. And that’s what makes this torturer-prisoner relationship blossom into something different.
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regentochter · 2 years
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*Kinn smoking, Vegas cursing in English, Kim fighting, Pete smiling while being tortured*
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blue-grama · 9 months
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Hello, theme of episode 10! Lots of decisions about trust in this one. Mostly bad decisions (e.g. trusting Vegas. Looking at you, Porsche and Tawan).
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This is most brutal thing that happens in this series, and someone is getting beheaded later.
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Heh at Arm's offense at Tawan reaching over him to control his mouse. Yeah, that IS the most annoying thing in the universe, Arm.
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First thing that happens in Season 2 after the Theerapanyakul brothers kill their father is that the three of them have a meeting and decide to send Arm for some continuing education in IT security.
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Ok but what WAS the fucking plan, Vegas? From where I sit, it looks like: 1. Seperate Porsche from Kinn 2. ??? 3. Profit! Maybe there's something in there about how he was going to use Porsche to help him get back the blackmail information from the Yakuza? Maybe he gets himself out of hot water there and lets Porsche die or kills him in the process, breaking Kinn's heart twice over? But it seems equally possible to me he planned to marry Porsche and settle into 50 years of fake non-kinky domesticity (no way does Porsche have the patience for all those chains and ropes) just to piss Kinn off. Anyway. I think I've thought harder about this than the writers as this point.
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Let's focus on Kim and Big coming in all heroic to save the day so I don't have to think about what happens to Big next.
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Kinn's "what the fuck is wrong with you" look at Tawan, echoing the reaction of the audience and everyone in the known universe.
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Big's entire funeral: getting carried offscreen in a bodybag while Kinn self-castigates for a whole ten seconds.
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I love Tong's acting in the Ken's disembodied head scene. He's pissed off and grossed out with genuine existential horror underneath. It's really good.
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Uncle Gun outfit appreciation moment.
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Hmm, so you're okay with killing family, Kinn? Let's introduce a new concept. It's called "patricide."
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Nothing about KinnPorsche is realistic, except for 20-something dudes being fundamentally kind of gross.
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starlightgoose · 2 years
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so basically vegas the sadistic sociopath gets owned by pete coz pete can take pain like nobody's business and still smile through it lmao
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No but the way Pete smiled at Vegas while being tortured is so different from how Pete smiled at Vegas before...
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It's a whole different emotion
...and I'm really excited
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cetacean · 2 years
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Kinnporsche Episode 9 + Episode 10
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maleficent-cannoli · 2 years
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Timelining KP
The time has come. I’ve spent the last few days organizing my notes as much as possible, so here it is. And it is a monster of a post, I swear I didn’t realize how long this was going to end up being.
HUGE NOVEL SPOILERS AHEAD
So the short version is this:
Ep 10 - VP starts, Chay gets kidnapped, further discussion of the mole, videos, Tawan is dealt with (30 - 33)
Ep 11 - VP episode, “fuck where’s Pete”/dead body, Porsche’s birthday (34 - 36)
Ep 12 - funeral/Return of the Pete, post-VP (36 - 40)
Ep 13 - parental issues, conversation re: Vegas  (42 - 44)
Ep 14 - boss battle, party (44 - end)
And now things get more specific, which is what was taking me so long.
Episode 10 (next episode)
Transition between the end of the Tawan arc and the beginning of the VegasPete/Everything-Is-An-Absolute-Trainwreck arc
VegasPete starts (obviously)
KinnPorsche will probably break up, but get back together by the end of the episode, potentially with the pool scene (although I know I’m setting myself up to be clowned with this one)
KimChay reveal
Kidnapping plotline
Porsche tries to move out/Big pushes Chay dumpster fire extravaganza
Basically everything up to the end of chapter 33 of the main novel (Tawan arc over, KimChay are a mess)
Further discussion of the mole (Kim knows Porsche isn’t the mole, everyone else probably realizes he isn’t the mole, so who is?)
Again, potentially Chay getting kidnapped (kinda hoping that’s what they go with since it was a really nice transition in the novel, not just for Chay himself, but it was the push KinnPorsche needed to talk out some of their issues and get back together, particularly for Porsche to be willing to hear Kinn out after the shit he pulled)
Maybe the whole thing with the sex tapes toward the end, or episode 11, or not at all, who knows
Oh and this would be the VegasPete episode that will probably feel the most uncomfortable because it’s really the beginnings of their relationship and even toned down it’ll be quite the experience
Not just for us but for Pete as well
We will probably see Vegas become more attracted to Pete beyond just being intrigued and amused
Episode 11
I’m thinking primarily VegasPete, like (hopefully) almost entirely VegasPete
Probably cut in with some main family drama 
Chay moving in with the main family?
KimChay kinda going to shit
Obviously some Tankhun commentary would be amazing
Maybe some KinnPorsche parallels with VegasPete, like with completely different tones (soft/fluffy/tender vs. just flat-out violence) but with some aspects that mirror each other?
But like I said probably mostly VegasPete and the development of their relationship
Just because there’ll be other stuff happening in episode 10, I’d say this is probably where Pete gets to see Kan/Gun (idk what we’re calling him) for the abusive homophobe that he is 
I could see the phone calls happening and the much anticipated “are you hungry?”
This is where we’ll see Vegas start to fall, and I want to see him fall HARD
Depending on how they want to do it, we could maybe see some more romantic implications, but I don’t think Coco just yet
You know what could be fun to see that I can see happening in this episode? The shaving scene
Episode 12
Wrapping up the main VegasPete arc and seeing what happens once Pete escapes
I’d estimate around half the episode taking a look at the dynamics back at the main family once Pete’s returned
This is probably the episode where we’ll get to see the infamous love scene that was apparently intense enough for Bible to need an inhaler
I am REALLY hoping we get the Coco scene, or at least something like it
Pete will probably escape somewhere in here
We’ll probably get the funeral scene and the Return of the Pete (because I will take any and all opportunities to make a LotR reference, even where it clearly does not belong), which will be absolutely hilarious
Bonus points if we get to see Tankhun dump a soup tureen on Vegas for finding the funeral funny
A scene I’ve been hoping we’ll get for a while now is the gathering of mafia wives (Tae’s words, not mine)
Chay is hilarious, I love Tae, and Pete is doing not great
I especially want to see the part where Vegas ambushes Porsche in the bathroom to talk about Pete because “I love him and I can’t live without him” and yes, that is a direct quote
A lot of the post-VegasPete drama could also carry over into episode 13 to make it just that much spicier
Episode 13
I’ve been playing with different ways to refer to this part of the plot, since it’s basically unpacking everyone’s parental issues (I at one point was calling it Porsche’s Batman backstory)
But yeah a lot of this is just digging into what happened to the Kittisawasd parents
And Vegas has both mommy AND daddy issues, the whole package
Also Vegas being all worried and asking Porsche about Pete to make sure he’s ok
Plus increasing tension between the major and minor families in the run-up to what I’ve been referring to as the boss battle
Episode 14 
The boss battle, the final showdown, the big dramatic fight scene, whatever you want to call it, that’s this episode
I don’t think there’s much else to say about that part
Basically wrapping everything up
The party from the end of the novel
I’d love if they did some of the stuff from the VegasPete special chapters, and by that I mean I want to see baby Venice Theerapanyakul
Probably ending on everyone’s favorite chess aficionado doing some ominous foreshadowing via some complicated metaphor that may or may not actually make sense (apple/knife metaphor who?)
So yeah, that’s what I got. And I am going to try to do this every week after each episode, so they’ll be getting shorter as we go along. I’d love to hear other people’s thoughts on this too.
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advesperam · 2 years
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Pete’s entering his HARLEY QUINN ERA AND I’M HERE FOR IT
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domsaysstuff · 2 years
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Who is with me on the train that in the final episode Tankhun will end up taking his rightful place as the head of the family?
Like the clues are there
1) kinn doesn't want to lead, doesn't want to be a heir and he does that out of sense of responsibility and obligation to his family
2) kinn always doubts his leadership because of that and (sure I would love to see him grow to his full possibilities of the powerful mafia boss he can be) the words he says to arm proves that, he thinks he is a shitty boss (pete and his boss might agree right now but give my meow meow a break, he had a series of bad days)
3) tankhun is present for meetings as of recently which we didn't see him do before
And I feel like Tankhun just sweeps into that role because he knows it's time, he has been hiding long enough, been playing, he sees even more now how it's hurting Kinn and noone fucking hurts his little brother and idk i just want it so bad but also powerful mafia couple Kinn and Porsche-
Can a girl have a cake and eat it too? And can Tankhun and Kinn maybe lead together, to not be like Gun and Korn, to not end up like them. Instead they are equal and lead in unity and trust.
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hilema · 2 years
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Destroy me completely
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thatgirl4815 · 2 years
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Colors in Ep11 🌈
(+ VP’s Phases of Intensity)
Back with what’s shaping up to be my weekly post about the lovely colors in KinnPorsche, and there is A LOT to work with in this episode. Many amazing posts have already hit the main points, but I’ll try to offer up some of what I noticed in the way of prominent colors, notable shots, and repetitive schemes. This episode also gives a major hint for how these colors could progress in the future.
From a cinematic/aesthetic perspective, I will just note right off the bat that this episode is near the top of my list. It’s truly amazing how carefully they have crafted the evolution of VegasPete’s color scheme(s) and the severity of these colors. It coincides with the progression of their relationship in a way that is apparent but still subtle. It’s hard to define generally without getting into specifics, so here we go...
Red & Green
For the purposes of this post, I will go ahead and make some color groupings. Red and green stand out because they both represent themes of ⚠️ danger ⚠️ --in this case, the type of danger that Vegas elicits. Red is attributed to Vegas a bit more than green, but they’re both clearly tethered to him. The first few VP scenes serve as a continuation of the torture scene in Ep10, as the setting and colors indicate: 
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The color red is not only present, it’s brutally apparent. As I mentioned in my post about color/cinematography in Ep10, the environment itself is well-adapted to color. It’s dark, it’s dank, it’s gloomy. It’s enclosed with minimal exits. The oppressiveness makes the colors stand out all the more, because without them, what do we have visually? I believe they chose this space because of it’s simplicity. Our attention is drawn to these colors because they are such vital mood setters. 
(It could be easy to mix up pink and red here, but while I do see pink shining through the back of this scene, I do think red is the notable color because pink is really just an alternate shade of red. More on pink later.)
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While red (and lighter shades) dominates this torture scene, green often shines in the back to offer an additional bit of foreshadowing. I still find it interesting that green has been tied to themes of danger, as it’s primary positive connotations include growth and rebirth. That would seem to be the opposite of what we get in this scene, but I do think green’s positive correlations could carry some weight further into the episode. For now, green represents danger but also possessiveness. Vegas wants to hold onto Pete for as long as he can, because he’s someone he can call his—someone he can control when his father is so intent on ripping away his sense of agency.
But moving on to later scenes...
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The three main colors here are red, green, and gold/yellow (separate colors, but they’re blended quite a bit in this shot). I’ve dissected all three already, so I won’t go into much detail, but I do think the change in scenery is most notable because it does not permit such a vibrant display. In the first torture scenes, we cannot escape the color, but here it is a bit easier to overlook. There’s also a certain domesticity to this scene that makes everything less brutal. Pete is still in danger, he’s still a victim, but it no longer feels so intimately oppressive. In keeping with this notion, we have our danger colors shining in the back rather dimly, and their color is mostly contained to the wall behind Pete. The only times the colors really caught my attention on Vegas are (understandably) during the torture scene at the safehouse, where Vegas lashes Pete with his belt, and the scene where Vegas frantically shouts Pete’s name. But in general, while we do see more substantial flares of color in shots like this--
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--it’s still nowhere near as prominent as in the first torture scenes. I’ve also noticed how the colors are almost always more noticeable on Pete, likely to show how he is the subject of the danger. But, and this seems to be the most important part, as the intensity of the colors goes down, so does the toxic intensity of VP’s relationship. This is leaning *somewhat* into prediction territory, but I’m fairly certain we will see three phases of intensity...
Phases of Intensity
1) Torture Intensity - I think we’re already passed this, for the most part. Torture intensity refers to the tension of their relationship when they are at their most estranged: the oppressor and the oppressed. This dynamic pervades the episode up until VP’s final few scenes. Red and green are the main characters in this phase.
2) Minimal Intensity - "Minimal” might not be the best word, but I think this phase is what we see at the end of Ep11. VP have reached a level of vulnerability after Vegas heals Pete’s wounds and Pete admits to a similar experience with his own father. Vegas’s tender kiss is also one of Pete’s first real indicators that the intensity is lessening. The oppressor/oppressed dynamic is not gone, but it’s lessened significantly--putting VP closer to equal than we’ve ever seen them. Gold and yellow are the main characters in this phase.
3) Romantic/Sexual Intensity - I think it’s necessary to pair the words “romantic” and “sexual” together, because I would say we’ve already seen a little bit of sexual intensity in the “Torture Intensity” phase of VP’s plot line but not romantic intensity. The instigation of any kind of sexual action has been all one-sided from Vegas, but while I think Vegas will be the one to instigate more next episode, Pete will likely return the intensity. This is what will turn their sexual intensity into romantic intensity. Pink and purple are the main characters in this phase. I also think we could see a return of hot pink to lean into VP’s more mutual erotic energy when the time comes.
I suppose you could also refer to these “phases” as VP growing closer emotionally, which then allows for a different kind of intensity in their relationship. A mutual intensity, you could say. I’ve talked about positive and negative tension before in regards to KP’s relationship, but this is a similar idea. The colors are almost always a direct reflection of the state of the characters’ relationships. 
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When Vegas is healing Pete’s wounds, the red is almost entirely gone, and the green shines minimally; only faint traces of it can be seen on the chain by Pete’s head and on the sheets surrounding them. The prominent color from here on out comes from the gold/yellow light shining above them...
Gold & Yellow
I’ve said before that gold has been associated with the mafia as a whole. This would imply that it’s connotations are negative, but like Kinn and Porsche, I think it becomes something positive this episode. Gold has a metallic shine on it, but this is much more orange/yellow in comparison. Negatively, gold often represents greed. Positively, it represents prosperity. Both of these representations are materialistic in nature. Yellow, however, is typically associated with freshness, positivity, clarity, optimism, and enlightenment. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that an enlightening color shines so prominently during a scene of enlightenment for Vegas. 
I also want to point out how closely the coloring in the final VP scenes of Ep11 relates to the coloring in this KP scene: 
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The color here appears more gold than yellow, but the point still stands that in both cases, gold shifts from something negative to more positive. The addition of yellow in the VP scenes only contributes to this positivity. 
Pink & Purple 💗💜
As mentioned above, hot pink is pretty apparent in these early torture scenes. I think it’s meant to muddle our perceptions a bit, because as others have pointed out, without context, some shots make it a bit difficult to assess the toxic nature of Vegas and Pete’s relationship. These next ones certainly do NOT, however:
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(This isn’t the point of this post, but I can’t help but commend Build’s acting during this phone call because it completely ripped my heart out. The effort to keep his voice light and jovial while he’s in such a vulnerable state...💔)
Someone on Twitter referred to pink and purple as VegasPete’s “new colors,” and I think they do represent a softening in the relationship. In this post about the color pink, I mention how pink not only has sweeter, positive connotations, but it is also a subdued version of red. It’s like Pete’s presence in Vegas’s life mutes that bloody crimson into something more breathable—something tender and inviting rather than domineering and oppressive.
If pink is so positive, why then is it such an integral part of the first torture scene? Well, as I said, it is hot pink, not to be confused with a lighter shade of pink, what I’ll call blush pink until I can find a better match. It’s the shade we have seen behind Porsche at times to represent his tender feelings of love, and--most notably--behind both Vegas and Pete in the preview for Ep12:
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We can compare their physical actions to the shades as well. In the torture scene, Vegas has no reservations pushing Pete around. Any tenderness he shows is part of the game, designed to make Pete uncomfortable--to reassert who is in the seat of power. But in the preview, his delicacy is emotional. There’s a change in Vegas’s softness because he himself is showing vulnerability. It’s driven by pure feeling rather than dominance and control...and if it’s not--if Vegas really is just playing with Pete’s emotions, I really will call Vegas a master unhinged-manipulator. Because to me, this is about as real as it gets. 
Am I saying it’s real because I want it to be real? Probably. But contrast how Vegas acts with Pete here to how he acts with Tawan in the flashback. It’s hard to pinpoint what, exactly, is different, but no matter how tender Vegas is with Tawan, his movements seem calculated. I reckon there will be more evidence to work with in Ep12, but for now, I’m just going to go with the overall vibes I get from VegasPete as opposed to VegasTawan or VegasPorsche.
The preview shows two primary colors: pink and purple. But there’s a blend between them with hints of blue behind Pete. Coincidence? Blue is Pete’s color, so I don’t think so. But the main attraction here for me is the purplish blend in the middle, because it represents a combination of Vegas’s red and Pete’s blue. I don’t think I need to get into the poeticism of merging each character’s symbolic colors, so I’ll just leave it at that. 
There is something to be said about the placement of these colors. The purple is closest to Pete while the pink is closest to Vegas. I already mentioned how pink is just a lighter shade of red, so in a way, both Vegas and Pete are standing in the light of their respective colors. The purple spot between them is between them to represent the point of intersection, where Vegas and Pete can become VegasPete if and only if they both lean into it. 
I mentioned the Phases of Intensity already, but I want to conclude by comparing that more specifically to phases of color. 
Phases of Color 🎨
Red/Green ⏩  Gold/Yellow  ⏩  Pink/Purple
This doesn’t mean that red/green won’t show up in the future, but I do think that these phases represent which main colors we will see. Unsurprisingly, we are entering the pink/purple phase now, so we’ll see how their interactions coincide with that. 
Alright, that’s all on color for now. Let me know your thoughts! :)
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insomniacpreacher · 2 years
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You're part of a machine, you are not a human being With your face all made up, living on a screen Low on self-esteem, so you run on gasoline
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coleslaww · 2 years
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One last honourable mention to the end of the scene after the warehouse where Kinn is looking around with that quizzical look on his face, I could only imagine him thinking
'Wait, Kim and Porchay? When did that happen? HOW did that happen?? Good for you lil bro'
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