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our-lovely-things · 10 months
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Now that Suits is on Netflix, I pray there will be more great fanfiction written.
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writingonesdreams · 2 years
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Thoughts update
BOOKS: Ember Blade started great, I loved the parallels with the dictatorship regime, the divided society, the occupational forces and the choices of playing along and surviving vs rebelling and risking everything. Esp I loved the central duo of friends of course, but turns out one will die at the end and I hate it enough to refuse reading any further.
TV SERIES: The legal drama Suits is currently giving me everything I was looking for in all the bromancy fantasy books of the summer. Great great mentor/friendship, the protectiveness, Harvey is the coolest “I have no feelings but I'm fair ruthless ace” and Mike is the naive emotional genius getting invested into everybody. They make the best duo - Mike cares about people and finds unfairness and Harvey gets dragged along, cause he likes the kid and helps him win the case with his ruthless methods. Perfect. Also apparently pretending not to care, cause it's a weakness, behind a assured charming predatory smile, is still as addictive for me as it was 5 years ago.
AUS: have been doing Suits AUs for the last week, finally have lots new to think about! It kinda gets mixed with the Ukriane war, since I have been reading about it a lot as well, so Zephyr is either a soldier, or diplomat or lawyer trying to get more weapons and support from America, ach jaj.
SONGS: I'm missing new songs to listen to. Always get a crisis when I can't find new good songs to daydream to. Thank you for the playlist @sleepyowlwrites how did you know I would need it?
WRITING: I have realized I won't get the guilty pleasure scenes I want to read from anywhere else, but writing them (duh). I have collected some dialogue prompts for this purpose. But then @tryingtimi and @ren-c-leyn encourage me with writing the "official" hurt/comfort scenes for Tears of Iron, so I have some on mind as well:
A dive into Hal's POV and some emotional comfort from Zephyr (that poor Sasuke never got)
The elemental fusion exam where the main trio turns into an element, but turning back and being human turns quite difficult and painful afterwards.
Still have the Soft secrets scene for Skye to dive into her concerns and insight of Zephyr
And the new character intro with Wolf and finally seeing some of the blow up Zephyr is heading towards
I’m having a bit of a crisis of realizing for the first time this summer that I didn’t enjoy the fantasy elements as much as I usually do. They actually felt like a waste of time? Like there wasn’t much to take away from it. Really interested in wars, dictatorships and regimes right now, with the rising threat of everything. Maybe it’s time to get back to other genres again. I do want my happy endings and true friendships and loyalties though - not likely to find those there. 
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happypeacenut · 2 years
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Ever since I began watching the good kind of television (not to sound anti-national but it was American), TV shows took precedence over movies in my life. They had longer and more stories to tell. They could experiment with characters, settings, relationships, and if you’ve watched Supernatural then you’ll know, even form and structure. Most importantly, they felt never-ending. You could curl up in bed with one that had a solid 5+ seasons, and it was escapist heaven. Alas, all good things, including good television, must come to an end. And this week, it was Suits, the series finale of which aired on Colors Infinity in India on September 26.
It was 2011. And of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Mike Ross (Patrick J. Adams) walked into the hotel suite where Harvey Specter (Gabriel Macht) was conducting associate interviews for Harvard attorneys. The rest, as they say, is history.
Now I know if either of them were reading this, they’d love how I slipped in the Casablanca reference in there. In fact, they might even argue over which one of them would be Humphrey Bogart (Harvey) and which one would be Ingrid Bergman (Mike). And that right there, the instant chemistry between Harvey and Mike, which eventually evolved into bromance, and finally brotherhood, to this day remains the heart of Suits for many. They’ve got that Tony Stark-Peter Parker vibe!
Suits started off as a cocky S.O.B, much like its primary lead, Harvey Specter. In fact, rarely have I seen a show’s trajectory share so many traits with its characters. In Season 1, Suits was fierce like Jessica Pearson (Gina Torres), impatient like Louis Litt (Rick Hoffman), incredibly smart and sassy like Mike Ross, intuitive like Donna Paulsen (Sarah Rafferty) and determined to prove itself like Rachel Zane (Meghan Markle).
People began watching Suits because Harvey’s alpha male was sexy, and his Batman and Robin act (banter et al.) with associate Mike Ross was fun. They watched it because they found Jessica and Donna to be formidable women that every man respected and every woman wanted to be. They watched it because Mike and Rachel’s love story was as hot as it was beautiful.
And now, eight years and nine seasons later, as we bid farewell to the firm that we’ve known by many names—Pearson Hardman, Pearson, Pearson Darby, Pearson Darby Specter, Pearson Specter, Pearson Specter Litt, Specter Litt, Zane Specter Litt, Zane Specter Litt Wheeler Williams, Specter Litt Wheeler Williams and Specter Litt Williams Bennett (final for five years at least)—it is incredible to see how these characters have evolved with the show’s storyline.
When we get to Suits Season 9 Episode 10, it’s the final lap of Samantha Wheeler (Katherine Heigl) v. Faye Richardson (Denise Crosby). Despite Faye’s treacherous traps, the team manages to sidestep and pull one last con. In the end, it requires the best closer in town, Harvey Specter, to step into the ring. And since happy endings are a binding precedent when it comes to series finales, you know this means Faye is gone and all’s fine with Pearson Specter Wheeler Williams. Or is it? Because there’s a twist right around the corner. And the promos will tell you, as are two weddings and one childbirth!
It’s the bittersweet ending of your dreams, as you watch Harvey and Donna make a move to Seattle to be with Mike and Rachel, leaving the firm in the hands of some old and some new blood. It is a testament to the Season 9 storyline, about people facing the consequences of doing whatever it takes to win a case, that the naming partners we see at the end of the show are all at least willing to play by the book. But of course, the real moments worth focusing on has to be Mike ‘interviewing’ Harvey, putting his eidetic memory to excellent use by recreating his own interview all the way from Season 1! I dare you not to shed tears as you smile over this!
And then you’ll wish you had someone holding your hand like Donna held Louis’ as she bid goodbye.
In fact, I’ll go so far as saying that Harvey Specter may be a slick closer, but when it comes to series endings, fan service is the best closer in town. No matter how rushed and hurried or ridiculous your final season may appear, if the last ever episode is piled up with fan service moments, then you’re let off the hook. All a fan really wants is to have enough chances to relive it all and say goodbye. And that’s exactly what show creator Aaron Korsch gave us.
The final few episodes were brimming with callbacks to the earlier seasons. Dr Lipschitz (Ray Proscia) came back, Harvey teased Louis by calling him the Prince of England (a subtle nod to HRH the Duchess of Sussex, perhaps?). And all the casual ways Mike, Harvey and Donna brought up Mike’s fraud tied it all up in a nice bow. It felt nostalgic to revisit some of the badass lines Harvey has dropped over the years in the span of the last two episodes!
“Harvey’s maybe the best closer in the city. But I’m the best everything else.” (Louis Litt)
“I don’t play the odds. I play the man.” (Harvey to Louis after he got Faye to back down)
“When your back is up against the wall, break the goddamn thing down.” (Mike quoting Harvey to Robert Zane and Samantha)
“Life is this. I want this.” (Louis to Ted Tucker, when he was pretending to be Harvey)
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“What are your choices when someone puts a gun to your head? You take the gun, or you pull out a bigger one. Or, you call their bluff. Or, you do any one of a hundred and forty six other things.”
(Mike quoting Harvey back to Harvey)
For a show that’s about the cut-throat world of corporate law, Suits somehow managed to reiterate the ideas of friendship, loyalty and family with its extremely well-developed characters and their ever evolving relationships with each other. The final episode showed just how much they’ve evolved. It did feel like only Louis got to evaluate how far he had come with Dr Lipschitz in the episode. But you wouldn’t need a shrink to tell you how there was more love and respect than ever before between him and Harvey. Louis quoting A Few Good Men and Harvey letting him be the Goose to his Maverick (Top Gun reference he’d once shared with Mike) made my heart full!
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Even though she was new to the show, watching Samantha finally be rid of her baggage and ready to play the game with her new family and her old mentor, Robert Zane (a brilliant Wendell Pierce) by her side was touching. And so was Katrina Bennett (Amanda Schull) finally getting her due! It was reassuring to know that she and Alex Williams (Dulé Hill) would be there to keep Louis and Samantha in check.
It wouldn’t have been easy for Harvey to give up what he did, or to make a lifelong commitment in such a split-second decision. Over the latter course of the show, we’ve seen Harvey being told he’s gone soft. But we finally understand that it is his priorities and what he values most in life that has been changing for him. It helps him forgive his mother and realise his true feelings for Donna. He preferred to work alone at first and cared only about winning. Now, he was ready to move cities to work with his closest friend on cases that helped those in need. Harvey Specter had started caring.
Okay, I’ll admit, I wish some things were different. While it was a beautiful ceremony, I’m not too sold on the impromptu Darvey wedding, more so because Harvey and Donna should’ve known how pissed Louis would be to miss their special day. It’s not Harvey’s style. I’ve made my peace with the fact that there would never be another Meghan Markle appearance, and it makes it easier to then imagine that Rachel missed both Louis and Donna’s weddings. But I would've loved to see Jessica Pearson make an appearance at the event. Or if not that, then maybe a phone call to Harvey, while he was spending his last few minutes in his office. She was his mentor, and he was leaving the firm just as she had, in service of the greater good of the firm. Not even Mike would understand what that felt like.
And finally, I would’ve loved to know what Harvey and Donna’s ritual was with that can opener! Of course, we can’t get what we want. And that’s probably a good thing too. Can you imagine the tears that would come with that? The finale did seem to be moving at a doubly fast pace, patching arc endings wherever they could. And while it wasn’t exactly seamless, it was satisfying because it gave the fans enough reasons to smile and get mushy over it.
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nellie-elizabeth · 7 years
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Suits: Skin in the Game (7x01)
This show has a special place in my heart. It's sort of like a disobedient, not-too-bright child. It can piss me off so easily, but nothing it does makes me love it any less. And lemme tell you something - there are a bunch of things about this opener to Season Seven that are not what I would call ideal. And yet... I still had fun watching.
Cons:
Donna... okay... look. All last season I was annoyed because the whole plot thread with "The Donna" was stupid and made no logical sense. However, I really liked the idea of exploring Donna getting more attention and respect for all of her hard work. Now, we throw this whole "Donna is suddenly a senior partner" thing into the mix. Yo. I'm a legal secretary who works at a corporate firm... let me tell you that this is ridiculous. There are plenty of other ways to move up in your field without going to law school, even if you work at a law firm. Donna seems to be suggesting that she's valuable not because of legal expertise but because of her management skills. Great! Promote her to a practice manager, head of client relations, executive administrator... any of these things. These are all real jobs with real power and money and an office and a say in firm policies. And they all make a lot more sense than just her being made a partner in the firm. It's ridiculous.
Louis screws up, people call him on it, and he backs down. Again. This time it's because he's smarting over his breakup with Tara. I get that he would be hurting, but he yells some truly horrible and abusive things to the associates, and we're all just going to forgive him and move on to the next cycle in the never-ending Louis story? Yikes. I'm sick of it.
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That being said, I do still like the idea of Donna standing up for herself more. Basically it's the framework I have an issue with, rather than the sentiment and motivation underpinning it. I hope that we can see what Donna can truly bring to the table other than just smart-ass remarks. She seemed like a truly brilliant secretary, but what does she offer that warrants the title of partner? I'm willing to suspend my disbelief to find out where they go with this.
Also, this episode featured Harvey not wanting to give thought to Donna's idea, and Louis demeaning Donna when she told him something he didn't want to hear, but then in the end, we get this great scene with Mike. More so than anybody, maybe even Harvey, Donna is the person who saved Mike and really encouraged him to start his new life. Donna comes in to congratulate Mike on his job and tell him how proud she is, and Mike makes a half-jesting offer that Donna could stay with the office, as it were, and work for Mike. But then Donna gives him the news that she's a partner. Mike is shocked, but really pleased. He tells Donna "it's about time." This was the first and only response Donna got in the whole episode where somebody affirmed her belief that she truly deserved this. Setting aside the reality-bending nonsense of Donna being named partner, I really did think this was a nice moment.
While Louis' never-ending cycle of crap pisses me off, I am glad that this plot thread gave Rachel a chance to grow a bit. She still played a supporting role here, as she encouraged Mike to go off and have fun with Harvey, and tried to smooth things over with Louis as best as she could. In the end, it looks like she will be taking over management of the associates, which is a big step for her. Her journey as a compassionate yet driven young woman is a journey I really loved watching, and I feel like she's finally getting what she's deserved all along.
Harvey got the biggest character arc of the episode, and fortunately I quite enjoyed it. He starts dating Paula, his prior therapist, but at first things don't go well because he seems to be reverting back to old bad habits. He can't seem to take control of the firm. He and Mike work on one last case together for old time's sake, but Mike has to yell at Harvey when Harvey backs down under threat from the client. Eventually, Harvey steps it up, beats the client at his own game, makes Donna partner like she's been asking all episode, and tells Louis firmly that he'll be taking control as managing partner. He then goes back to Paula and kisses her, affirming to himself and her that he wants to give this a real try.
Surprisingly, I actually rather like the idea of Paula and Harvey making a go of it. It's sort of random and out of the blue, but I like her as a character and I like that she doesn't put up with Harvey's crap. There was a lot of manly-man posturing from him in this episode, and she indulged it, but there was the sense that she knew exactly what was up with him from the start, as would make sense given their history as doctor and patient. Again, I'm sort of suspending my disbelief, because in reality I feel like a relationship between two people with such a history is a terrible idea. But, hey. Let's see how it shakes out.
Harvey finally taking control of the firm was really satisfying to see. I'm glad Louis backed off immediately and let Harvey take what's his. I'm also glad that the reason Harvey was finally able to see sense was that Mike yelled at him and demanded that he take control. There's something so satisfying about putting an end to Harvey's self-doubt. He's always put on this confident air, but now I feel like he has the reality of confidence to back it up. And I'm a sucker for the fact that Mike is the one who got him there.
I'll mention also, real quick, that Mike's character arc is basically that the clinic is really leery of Mike going to work for PSL, and Mike keeps insisting to everybody that he's going to do pro bono work and this will be better for everyone. Of course, his first case back with Harvey is working on a huge corporate deal, going to a fancy party with models, and having a blast while doing it.
Obviously this is going to be a thing this season, and I actually really like it. While before Mike was always looking over his shoulder and afraid he was going to get caught, now he has legitimacy. He's faced with the prospect of what to do with that legitimacy, and thus far he's failing in his own estimation. There's going to be push-back from Harvey, who's going to want Mike around as a corporate lawyer, and there's going to be the undeniable fact that Mike's really good at pushing rich people around and making big deals, and that more than being good at it, he actually likes it. I want to see how Mike reconciles these things.
I often end my reviews with a look at all the bromance, and hoooo boy. This episode was chalk full. Honestly, Mike and Harvey's flirting is getting a bit out of hand, but I'm not complaining.
First, there's the fact that Harvey, as he so often does, frames his day and his mood in relation to Mike. When he tells Paula that he's gotten his life together, the two things he mentions are that he's made peace with his family, and he got his old associate back. Later, when Donna tries to talk to him, he uses as an evasion tactic the fact that "it's Mike's first day back."
The banter in this episode was off the charts. Some of the best this show has ever had. But it's peppered with so many warm moments of Mike and Harvey just affirming how much they care about each other. Harvey is long past denying what this kid means to him. There are too many cute moments to count, but I think my favorite is probably when Mike gets drunk at the party and still schools Harvey by remembering the plan perfectly. The look on Harvey's face as Mike drunkenly walks away to talk to models is one of pure affection and amusement. I could watch these two hang out all day.
And there you have it. This show is weird and I don't know that I can support most of what it gets up to nowadays. The mishandling of Donna and Louis' characters sucks, because there's so much potential there. But if I can get some more feel-good Harvey and Mike bromance in the mix, then I'm apparently willing to put up with quite a lot of nonsense.
7/10
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jeysuso · 7 years
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Question on the Suits subreddit: "How fulfilling is Mike and Harvey's relationship to you?" In the first line of the clarifying text: "They have this relationship that meanders through different dynamics, father-son, older brother-younger brother and a bromance of equals." Let me just... let me just stare into space a minute before continuing.
HEY FAM
LMAOOOOO Bromance. Fucking Bromance. The mind boggles how anyone can look at the two of them, the things they’ve been through, the things they’re willing to do for each other, and say they’re just friends.
Anonymous said:WAIT HOLD ON. I KEPT READING: "I'm saying this because well [...] I am a bisexual male, more inclined towards gay relationships. [...] And I don't know if what I long for is a brother, a boyfriend or a best friend, or all of them, dunno. So I am saying this cos perhaps I am projecting too much of myself there, if that's what I'm hoping to get out of watching this with Mike and Harvey. And for you people that have your shit together their relationship is alright and you feel it is (1/2)
"accurate of 30 something males. I am curious too what women think of this in particular." A damn good post. Lol. (2/2)
YES REDDIT GUY, THEY’RE BISEXUAL AS FUCK. AND WE DIG IT. Honestly. People see it. There are people who don’t even watch the show who look at Mike and Harvey and question their relationship as just friends, because they’re not. The things they do for each other are not things friends do.
Friends don’t go to prison for each other, and friends don’t agree to give up their entire fucking careers for each other, and friends don’t give up two years of their life/potentially their lives outside of prison with their fiancees for each other.
They are not your typical friends/brothers. Not at all. And anyone who thinks they are, are so deeply in denial, it’s ridiculous.
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Korean adaptation of 'Suits' adds local color to popular U.S. drama
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Korean adaptation of 'Suits' adds local color to popular U.S. drama
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By Woo Jae-yeon
SEOUL, April 23 (Yonhap) — The highly-anticipated Korean adaptation of American legal drama “Suits” is set to premiere Wednesday. On the same day, the popular series will broadcast its season 7 finale in the U.S.
Premiered in June 2011 on the cable network USA, the U.S. series is being remade overseas for the first time in Korea. Its second announced redo is the Arabic adaptation.
Park Sung-hye, CEO of the Seoul-based production company Monster Union, said during a press event in Seoul on Monday that the company had been planning for several years to produce the remake.
She added that the company has been incredibly lucky to cast two actors — Jang Dong-gun and Park Hyung-sik — who will play an unlikely legal ensemble in the critically acclaimed New York-based legal drama.
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Actors Jang Dong-gun (L) and Park Hyung-sik attend a press event for “Suits” in Seoul on April 23, 2018. (Yonhap)
Jang will play Choi Kang-seok, the Korean version of Harvey Specter, the legendary, charismatic hotshot lawyer who works at the country’s top law firm. Park will take the role of Choi’s partner, Koh Yeon-woo, the Korean Mike Ross, who is hired by Choi as his personal associate for his photographic memory and high intelligence even though he has no license to practice law.
Actor Jang, 46, is returning to the small screen after he last appeared in the 20-episode “A Gentleman’s Dignity” on SBS in 2012.
After appearing in a series of dark crime thrillers, including “Seven Years of Night” and “V.I.P.,” in recent years, the actor said he wanted to be in a “more upbeat and bright” drama or film.
“I decided to join the drama without watching the original series. Then I watched the show and found it very interesting and appealing,” he said. “I stopped watching midway through the first season because I was afraid of unwittingly copying the character.”
   Emphasizing the importance of the drama’s localization to appeal to the local audience, he said, “There are natural changes in the characters and revisions to reflect Korean law and legal situations.”
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   A poster for “Suit” in this image provided by KBS 2TV. (Yonhap)
The idol-turned-actor Park, a member of boy group ZE:A, expressed anticipation to work together with senior actor Jang and said he would do his best to demonstrate bromance, an essential element to depict how the legal duo works closely together to close cases.
The charm and power of characters will play a very important role in making the show successful, said producer Kim Jin-woo.
“Characters play a crucial role in storytelling, so it is really important for me to make the characters relatable. All the episodes are created in the way that they support and explain the characters,” he said.
While acknowledging the pressure to remake the highly successful American show, he said the Korean version would have merit in its own unique way.
“We don’t want to copy but to interpret (the original) in our own way,” he said, adding he tried to strike a balance between keeping to the original storyline and trying to instill Korean color and originality into the adaptation.
The 16-episode drama will go on air at 10 p.m. on KBS 2TV Wednesday.
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SUBSCRIBE HOME ARTICLE 'Suits': Inside Harvey Specter's mind and office MANDI BIERLY Updated August 18, 2011 at 06:41 PM EDT Gabriel Macht, who stars as Suits‘ Harvey Specter, one of New York’s best (and best-dressed) legal closers, had an idea that USA would renew the show for a second season even before creator Aaron Korsh announced it on set last week as they were shooting the Sept. 8 season 1 finale. In addition to making USA the most-watched network on Thursdays at 10 p.m. ET this summer, “Everybody at USA was constantly telling us how great the show is,” Macht says. “Jeff Wachtel, who co-runs the network, was like, ‘Gabriel, I’m telling you. We pull out our pens to take our notes for each episode, then all the sudden, we put the caps back on the pens and we just watch, and we’re entertained, and we don’t have any real notes.’ That was pretty exciting to hear along the way.” With four episodes left this season — and 16 episodes ordered for 2012 — it’s officially safe to let ourselves get invested in trying to figure out who the mysterious man who only wears Tom Ford suits is. We asked Macht for some clues. Here’s what he had to say: Image Craig Sjodin • Harvey’s a collector: Exhibit A: The line of autographed basketballs on his window sill. “He represents and is friends with major athletes. He’s got Michael Jordan on his speed dial. He’s got basketballs signed by Jordan and Patrick Ewing. He’s got a baseball signed by Derek Jeter,” Macht says. “He’s got really signature — signature, ba dump-dump — sports memorabilia, which he’s gotten from auctions but also probably from the people themselves. He takes a lot in pride in that. He’s a man of the town. He’s connected.” We’ll learn in tonight’s episode — which features guest star Eric Close as an undefeated Boston lawyer who weens his way into a class action suit just so he can say he defeated Harvey Specter — that Harvey, who Macht suspects has season tickets for the Knicks and Yankees, is a former athlete himself. “Harvey wasn’t even on the case. It was Jessica’s case, but he brings up a high school baseball game where Harvey was the pitcher and his shoulder went out, and the team won without him anyway. Harvey still felt like he lost. I think that’s part of his reason for always wanting to win,” Macht laughs. “His sense of self was demolished at that point. He threw his arm out. Big deal. It happens. It wasn’t his fault. Why’s he got to be so serious all the time? My god.” Exhibit B: Harvey’s wall of records. “I think he puts his music on when he needs to mellow out and really focus and think,” Macht says. “He’s a jazz man and a blues man, those are his staples. But he’s got so many records there, he must listen to everything … His vast knowledge of obscure music marries well with his mental library of obscure facts.” Image Craig Sjodin • There are no drawers in Harvey’s office. Strange, right, because you’d think a man like Harvey would have things he’d need to hide. “Yes, but you know what, that’s what he’s got Donna for,” Macht says. “Donna has her little area, which is really interesting, because whenever we get the name of the locations we’re shooting, it’s actually called ‘Donna’s Area.’ There’s always some funny sexual innuendo that Sarah Rafferty, who plays Donna, throws out there. ‘Okay, you’re coming into Donna’s area.’ [Sarah] is awesome. She’s been my friend for over 20 years. She’s one of my best friends. Our daughters are best friends.” One thing Harvey does keep in his masculine, streamlined office, besides that furniture Macht describes as “classic, modern, timeless, Eames- and Herman Miller-inspired pieces that cost a mint”: a can opener. “It’s hidden in his office, and it reveals itself in the finale,” he teases. • Harvey is a movie buff. “There’s always a film reference or two in the episode. Harvey likes to try to stump Mike [Patrick J. Adams] or other characters. He’s playful.” • If you want to see Harvey’s lighter side, look on his office walls. “His artwork was chosen to show that he has a whimsical side with a truly wicked sense of humor,” Macht says. Image Craig Sjodin • Despite his protests otherwise, Harvey does have a heart. “He’s tough as nails, but he’s fair. He has a huge heart, but displays it behind everybody’s back. So he’ll stand up for Mike, but not to his face. He’ll go to Jessica, and say, ‘You’ve got to give this kid a second chance,’ and he’ll go to Lewis and go, ‘Are you nuts? You’re not gonna take this kid. He’s mine, and there’s no way you’re gettin’ near him.’ He believes that Mike is absolutely his ace in the hole, and that he’s a younger version of who Harvey was. He messes up and makes mistakes and he does things in a rogue way because he thinks he’s being clever, and sometimes he gets caught. That’s what Harvey did early on and still does, but he just gets away with it.” • Harvey loves Jessica (Gina Torres), but not in the way some fans may be hoping… “Jessica put Harvey through law school. He was in the mailroom. She found him and saw that this guy was an ace of her own and decided that, ‘I’m gonna put him through law school, and I’m gonna get him trial experience,’ and that’s how Harvey became an assistant district attorney in Manhattan,” Macht says. (We’ll meet the DA that mentored Harvey, played by Gary Cole, in the Sept. 1 episode, when his office comes under investigation and he turns to Harvey for help.) “I don’t think there was ever anything physical between Harvey and Jessica,” he continues. “I think Harvey loves Jessica just because she gave him his start and pulled him out of whatever mess he was in — and hopefully we’ll learn about that in season 2. But it’s funny. I was on YouTube the other night, and someone sent me a video, one of those where they cut together their own interpretations of relationships. Obviously, there’s this whole bromance [on Suits], so anyone who wants the homosexual twist between Mike and Harvey [can use] those really awkward moments of delayed, long looks. They’re so funny. But then there was one with Harvey and Jessica, and it just looked like, who knows what’s behind that story,” he laughs. “It was well done. It’s just funny to me, because I’m there everyday going, this is a total business relationship with [Jessica]. He’s the mentor to Mike…” Loading video Loading video Read more: Five reasons to love ‘Suits’ USA renews ‘Suits’ ‘Suits’ season finale scoop in the Spoiler Room MORE FROM EW.COM Real Housewives star Barbara Kavovit demolishing Harvey Weinstein's NYC office The Bachelor Fantasy Suites recap: Intimacy issues Sunrise Bay reunion! Inside the scandalous Schitt's Creek soap opera drama David Morrissey gets tormented by a sports mascot in Inside No. 9 clip What to Watch on Monday: Fantasy Suites on The Bachelor and Nick Jonas on The Voice premiere EW.com Learn More Subscribethis link opens in a new tab Content Licensingthis link opens in a new tab Sitemap Connect Follow Us © Copyright 2020 Meredith Corporation. Entertainment Weekly is a registered trademark of Meredith Corporation All Rights Reserved. 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Appearing before The Dramacourt: Suits (Korea) Episodes 3 and 4
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Issues:
Whether Kang Seok’s tough love attitude actually helps.
Whether using the law to escape gangsters is believable.
Whether witness tampering is a thing.
Whether the meeting before the trial is legit.
Whether you can represent someone if a) they were your previous client and b) opposing counsel is your ex-girlfriend.
Whether the “trial scene” was accurate.
The Rule(s):
Yes.
Sure. If it’s an ideal world.
Yes. But it shouldn’t be.
Yes.
Not really.
Hells No!
Analysis:
RedRosette J: I really really really want to love this drama because a) Hyungsik and b) it’s Suits but it’s getting really really really hard to ignore all the inconsistencies and extra kdrama-ness.
Starting with that whole rooftop thing which was totally ridiculous and unbelievable because most rooftops in really tall buildings are not accessible to like 99.9% of the people in that building due to, well, obvious reasons. Then there was that whole Kang Seok’s ex-girlfriend story line which was totally ridiculous because a) what kind of lawyer has that much free time (she was rock climbing in the middle of a workday), b) she was late to a meeting (oh hells no) and c) she was just annoying. I didn’t really understand the point of her character. Was she the Scotty character who was meant to humanize Kang Seok? Because if that was the case, I didn’t really get that. Sorry.
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Seriously you can’t just walk up to rooftops
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I like the contrast of her red outfit to the blue buildings
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How do you have so much free time?
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No seriously. How?
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Are you Scotty?
Another one of my complaints is the SERIOUS lack of Da Ham-Kang Seok interaction unlike its US counterpart. I just wish we got a little more banter and flirting between the two. It’s just so much more fun if there was that whole “will they-wont they” thing going on like Harvey and Donna. I know, I know, this is a remake and its adapted from the original so that doesn’t mean that it has to be exactly like the original but come on it is super cute so why not? Speaking of Da Ham, one thing I don’t like is how Geon Woo interacts with her. Unlike with Mike Ross who acknowledges that Donna is way above his level even though she’s an assistant and he’s a “lawyer”, you sort of get a vibe that Da Ham doesn’t have the same sort of power that Donna does and as a result Geon Woo seems to be on a level higher than her (if that even makes sense).
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I wish she got more screen time
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Its cute but give us more!
We did see more of Ha Yeon (Jessica Pearson) in these episodes and while the actress is doing a great job, I just feel like the character is written with a lot less punch than Jessica Pearson. She doesn’t really stand out on her own as a character to me. Whereas when Jessica Pearson enters a scene, it’s like the other characters automatically diminish because of her presence and charisma. Ha Yeon seems to be lacking that “wow” factor for me.
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Her presence is just missing a little something…
The funniest stuff in this episode was the trying to get BeWhy as a client plot. While I appreciate the humour, I just wish that the show had tried with someone a little more realistic. We also got to see more of Geun-Sik being weird and trying to be cool which was funny but overall tbh it fell a bit flat to me.
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OMG those hats I can’t even
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OMG such a cutie
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BeWhy
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OMG the cringe is real
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More BeWhy
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When you successfully poach BeWhy
I realize I’m being overly critical because I’ve seen the original and because the law things bother me but the show is actually pretty good on its own if you haven’t seen the original.
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Pretty
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Awwwww
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When all your coworkers hate you but you still gotta go to work
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At least the going into the male/female bathrooms is a running gag in this remake too LOL
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Awkward client meetings like
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Sorry not feeling the chemistry 
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Ugh. Can we not make Jenny a thing in the remake too?
Issue 1: Whether Kang Seok’s tough love attitude actually helps.
RedRosette J: Geon Woo definitely needs someone like Kang Seok in his life for many reasons but mainly because he’s never had a real father figure in his life (that Cheol Soon guy was a terrible older male role model) and he definitely needs someone like Kang Seok to give it to him straight so that he hears the hard things he needs to hear. So while I do think that the tough love stuff helps for someone like Geon Woo who’s always been making the wrong decisions and who is always looking for a way out, I think it has to be done super carefully. If you push someone like Geon Woo too far, the result could turn out badly for him. I think that Kang Seok should be tough on him but not too much. As an aside, because we’ve been seeing so much tough love stuff, there’s been less of the bromancing going on (although I guess some would argue that that is partly bromance). Honestly for me, the bromance just isn’t there.
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Maybe tone down the yelling at the poor boy
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The fist bump is never gonna happen fam
Issue 2: Whether using the law to escape gangsters is believable.
RedRosette J: I’m sorry but this was completely ridiculous. It was wrong on so many levels. Firstly, there is no way that GANGSTERS with WEAPONS would stand there and let you blackmail them into signing a retainer agreement. Nor would they just stand there and let you destroy their marijuana and walk away unharmed. This was totally unrealistic. I see what the writers were trying to do: use the law to the advantage of rescuing Cheol Soon and getting the gangsters behind bars by blackmailing them into signing a retainer agreement to have the lawyer represent them, but this was perhaps not the best way to go. I mean yea sure if this was an ideal world and if gangsters could be stunned into compliance with your awesome wit and rhetoric rather than by weapons, I see this strategy working but in the real world they would 100% shoot you dead the minute you opened your mouth. Fam. They are GANGSTERS. NOT TODDLERS. It was a tad too cringey and unrealistic even for a kdrama.
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What kind of idiotic gangsters are you guys?
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When your boss catches you doing dodgy shit on your day off
Issue 3:  Whether witness tampering is a thing.
RedRosette J:  This is totally a thing and people for real do this in real life and its actually an offence punishable by law. So yea, don’t tamper with witnesses. Unless you want to go to jail.
Issue 4: Whether the meeting before the trial is legit.
RedRosette J: Yes this meeting was quite legit. Usually before going to trial, the parties meet to negotiate whatever issues they have. If they can’t decide on a settlement then the issue goes to trial. In some situations there are even mandatory mediation sessions that parties have to attend prior to trial. I’m not exactly sure whether this applies to this particular meeting but in Canada there are pre-trial conferences where parties meet (usually with a Judge presiding) to go over the final issues before the trial and to decide exactly what is getting litigated at trial. This meeting looks more like a negotiation at the initial stages, so yes its legit to that extent.
RedRosette J Aside: One thing that I really liked about these particular divorcing characters was that the viewers weren’t told that the wife was blind until after the end of the proceedings. I really liked this because it didn’t create any prejudice in the minds of the viewer against the wife during the proceedings. She did wear sunglasses throughout except during her meeting with Ha Yeon but nothing was overt about her blindness. I really liked that it was simply an accepted fact that all the characters treated as a status quo.  
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Issue 5: Whether you can represent someone if a) they were your previous client and b) opposing counsel is your ex-girlfriend.
RedRosette J: So I’m going to answer this in sections because this pissed me off so much because as I was watching these episodes I was reading the rules of professional conduct for lawyers for the bar exam.
A) In a situation where the opposing party is a former client of yours you cannot represent this particular client because it breaches your duty of confidentiality to your former client (according to our rules at least). There is something about how if that former client provides something in writing that you can represent the new client but I doubt that that would work in this situation. Honestly, this was a bit ridiculous because I’m pretty sure they have the same rules about confidentiality in Korea.
B) It is also not the best situation to have two lawyers who are ex-lovers to be on opposing sides of a proceeding because well, for obvious reasons. I don’t think that it’s a good business decision either because look how Kang Seok was affected by the woman. He was running around like a headless chicken trying to figure out what her end game was and honestly I don’t think he was making rational decisions. If I was Ha Yeon, I would have assigned someone else to that case.
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This is a strict No.
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Sorry not feeling it.
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Questionable morals guys
RedRosette J: Also what was with that awkward kiss? I’m sorry but those two had no chemistry. It was just awkward to watch. Also, I feel bad for this girl’s fiance because she legit slept with Kang Seok while she had a fiance. *shakes head*
Issue 6: Whether the “trial scene” was accurate.
RedRosette J: This was by far the worst scene of these two episodes. Yes it was a dream sequence but still OMG Hells NO! First, when the ex-girlfriend starts making her opening statement to the court, Kang Seok interrupts her and starts asking her questions. *Deep Breaths* OMG. No. You cannot interrupt opposing counsel during opening statements. Wait for your turn. If you did, in reality, the Judge would reprimand you (for being an ass). Second, he doesn’t let her finish and starts talking over her and launches into his own opening statement during which he makes no legal arguments whatsoever, which you cannot do because the whole point of a trial is to make legal arguments and to not talk about your feelings and sing Kumbaya. And thirdly, he starts walking around the court and TURNS HIS BACK TO THE JUDGES during his statement. OMFG DUDE WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!?!?! YOU CANNOT TURN YOUR BACK ON THE JUDGES!!! In real life, even when you leave the courtroom you have to slightly bow your head first and walk away slowly without making a big show of turning your back to the judges. OMG this shit would not fly in real life . Its totally ridiculous and it wasn’t accurate at all!
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Don’t interrupt her dude
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Oh Hell No. 
Conclusion: Appeal Allowed.
Rating: 3 = MM. Okay. Fine. (Mostly because of how adorbs Hyungsik is)
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medproish · 6 years
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Warning: Spoiler alert! Do not proceed if you have not watched Wednesday’s two-hour season finale of Suits. If you have, refresh your memory on how Meghan Markle and Patrick J. Adams were written off the show.
Suits is beginning a new chapter.
Patrick J. Adams and Meghan Markle‘s final episode on Suits aired Wednesday night, appropriately titled “Goodbye,” and it culminated in a romantic — and very last-minute — wedding ceremony for their characters, Mike Ross and Rachel Zane, that’s been years in the making. After saying their “I do’s” (read our farewell to Adams and Markle), Mike broke the news to his mentor and friend, Harvey Specter, that he and Rachel were leaving New York City. A new opportunity awaited them in Seattle, Washington, where they would get the chance to run their own legal clinic and help defend class-action lawsuits against Fortune 500 companies. Their goodbye was sweet and fitting, but leaves Suits with interesting possibilities for the future. 
“[Season seven] stands out in the way that we have these two departures with Patrick and Meghan, and how seemingly right it feels for both their personal lives. But it’s an awkward transition, I think, for all of us to get acquainted with this new norm,” series star Gabriel Macht tells ET following Wednesday’s two-hour closer. “With the end of season seven, the fans will be fulfilled in that they do get married and they go off into the sunset in the right way. It makes total sense for Mike’s character to do what he wants to do.”
The 46-year-old actor, who has starred on the USA Network legal drama since its inception in 2011, reflected on Adams and Markle’s exits, admitting that not having Mike and Rachel within the fabric of the Suits universe is going to be “hard” for the fans and the cast moving forward “because these characters are so beloved.” But he’s already looking ahead to season eight, which will feature a notable new addition Katherine Heigl (a Suits superfan) and return fan favorites Amanda Schull and Dule Hill. (Production kicked off earlier this month in Toronto.) Still, though, Adams and Markle’s absence permeates.
“It’s been a real transition not having them on set,” Macht says. “There is a bit of a void — not to say that we haven’t gotten an incredible cast of actors who have come on board with us and the ensemble is so fresh and new. It’s part of the old, but it’s very new.”
Following the finale, ET spoke with Macht about what the departures of Adams and Markle means for Suits moving forward, why it’s been a difficult “transition” for him personally and scoop on season eight. (Plus, Macht shares his thoughts on if it’s time for Harvey and Donna to make it official.)
ET: We say goodbye to Patrick J. Adams and Meghan Markle in the finale with a stunning wedding. But Harvey seems stunned when Mike breaks the news that he’s leaving — this time, for good. What does having Mike and Rachel leaving for greener pastures mean for the series, and more specifically, Harvey?
Gabriel Macht: What is amazing about Harvey is that he has a lot of difficulty with regards to change — this idea that his right-hand man in Mike, and having his ace in his back pocket whenever Harvey is in trouble or has nowhere to turn when it comes to legalese, Mike is there in spades. That’s going to be a real eye-opener and it’s shocking for Harvey, as you see in that one moment [in the finale]. It’s another thematic element of Harvey’s growth where he has to step up, grow up and accept change, and really try and figure out what his place in the community, in his workplace, in the firm is going to be moving forward. In that one moment, his best friend, his younger brother, his confidant, his right-hand man, [Harvey’s realizing] he’s leaving now.
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What does it mean for you?
When I speak personally about this, separate from Harvey, that moment was the last scene that I shot with Patrick. When we started this show almost eight years ago, this started off as a duo with the two of us really taking the lead and the show really surrounded the two of us. Thankfully, the show became more of an ensemble drama in its storytelling and we’ve been able to develop all the surrounding characters, and that’s been great. For Harvey and myself, to move forward without Mike and Patrick, there is a void. There is a sense of, like, something that we started together, we’re not finishing together. Patrick has an incredible sense of integrity and intelligence and charm and humor that comes with this show, and it’s so grounded, and I’ve relied on that gravitas. He’s told me that whenever I need to give him a call and cry on his shoulder, he’s all good with that. (Laughs.)
Harvey and Mike’s partnership really kick-started the series and made Suits what it is. How will that bromance void be filled now?
Well, I think it’s fair to say that to recreate Marvey [the ship name for Mike and Harvey] in any way is going to be impossible. There’s definitely room for romantic behavior with other characters. There are times where you see it with Harvey and Louis. The seed was planted that Alex and Harvey were close as friends, so there are opportunities there. Even with Rachel’s father, there’s definitely places where we’ll take the piss out of each other and playfully tease each other in a testosterone-filled way that engages the male audience. (Laughs.)
Harvey and Donna went through a lot, especially in the back half of the season. How do you feel about where things stand with them at the end of the finale?
They have had a rocky road in that they have both really tried to question as best they can their relationship in relation to each other. I thought Harvey was really falling Paula in many ways. Her error of judgment was, “You gotta fire Donna to make this work.” That sort of sparked an awakening in Harvey that maybe Paula wasn’t as generous and as thoughtful and as passionate to Harvey’s needs as he thought. And maybe it was meant for a reason that this all happened to really question his own motivations with Donna. It’s created a lot of questions. At this point, they’re on level with each other and moves forward in a business-like manner because there has been so much dealings with the firm, possibly losing the firm. I think that that took over their focus. Moving forward into season eight, I think those questions will come up again.
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It’s been seven seasons of a will they/won’t they dance and there’s a growing feeling among fans that it’s time for them to make a concrete decision about their relationship status. Do you personally think it’s time for Harvey and Donna to make the leap?
Yeah, look, I understand that. The only thing that I can say is there are people out there who have these types of relationships. Sometimes they last 25 years and their brothers and sisters and their best friends are like, “What the hell are you doing? Why don’t you guys just hook up already and get together?” Who knows? Maybe they’re not right for each other. At the end of the day, maybe, just maybe they’re not right for each other. Maybe they are?
You were an integral part of Gina Torres’ Chicago-set planted political spinoff in the finale. How interwoven will the new show be with Suits?
Our finale was more so a catalyst for creating a new story with one of our original characters. Moving forward, I have no idea what they’re thinking as far as bringing recognizable characters from Suits onto their show. I’m so happy and thrilled for Gina that it got picked up. The story is really located now in Chicago and as you saw in the finale, there’s no reason why people can’t jump on a plane and appear in their world. But I think it is somewhat of a separate world in the beginning of the storytelling. If and when they come to me and say, “Hey, would you like to take part in this storyline?,”  I’ll have to take a look at it at that point. But there’s no reason why characters can’t show up.
The show is welcoming a new partner at Specter Litt in season eight, played by Katherine Heigl. What does she bring to the table that breathes new life into Suits universe?
There are a lot of similarities between her character, Samantha Wheeler, and Harvey. As you’ll see in the first couple of episodes, they go head to head. They’re truly adversarial, but they sometimes mirror each other in their actions and their manipulative ways to accomplish what they need. There’s something charming about that and exciting. We’ll see who’s the better the poker player, who can kick more people in the knees. With that said, Katie has expressed her fandom for the show and has loved the show for a little while. She’s been right in. She gets the rhythm of the speech. She is really, really free with the material — spontaneous. She’s just been nailing it. It’s been fun to play with her and I look forward to seeing where these characters are going to go and how much they’ll have to do with each other. I can tell you in the first two episodes, there’s been a lot [of interaction] and it’s been a lot of fun.
More of a geeky question for you: Michael Jordan, who’s been name-dropped for years. We’re still waiting on that cameo! What’s the status?
We shined him and then he bowed out. Apparently, he’s coming in episode 8×03, but people are telling me he might not make it onto the plane. I don’t know if it’s for real. (Pauses for a moment.) That’s all bulls**t. Don’t take my word for any of that. (Laughs.)
Suits returns for season eight this July on USA Network.
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Suits: Teeth, Nose, Teeth (6x13)
I was talking to a friend recently about this show, and he said he was losing patience with it. During the course of our conversation, we realized that our frustrations came from the fact that this is starting to feel less and less like a show about a law firm and the people who work there. Instead, this whole season has felt very disjointed, particularly as Harvey and Mike's lives take them in differing directions. Let's take a closer look.
Cons:
Both of the subplots in this episode failed pretty badly. In one, we see Louis and Tara continue their relationship, as Tara is ready to have her first ultrasound. Louis is at first upset that Tara's ex is coming to the hospital, but later is upset that the guy cancels, because he thinks it means he'll be a bad father. Tara confusingly decides that Louis' understandably tumultuous reaction to all of this means she "doesn't know him at all," but they make up by the time the episode ends. Louis and Tara make no sense to me, and their relationship drama is pointless and uninteresting. The end of this critique.
Donna discovers that Benjamin the IT guy has created an AI machine called "The Donna" that is full of all of her most witty phrases. Benjamin wants to pursue a business opportunity with Donna, but Donna later says no, because she's more than just her witticisms. What makes her great is her open heart, her intuition, and her loyalty to her friends. Benjamin says he wants to try and make "The Donna" more like the real Donna, and asks for her help. Okay... what? I know I said I wanted a story-line focused on Donna, but this was just weird. Benjamin never explained what "The Donna" was supposed to do. Is it a computerized legal secretary? We never see it do anything like schedule appointments or make reservations or do anything that a secretary is supposed to do. And it's way too smart, flawlessly talking to Donna as if it had a mind of its own. Is this actually a plot thread that's going to continue? It was so bad I was embarrassed by it.
The main plots delved together quite nicely, but I still have my issues. Mike is frustrated by being unable to represent his clients at the clinic. Meanwhile Rachel is told that she won't be getting an ethics committee meeting. Turns out, one of the guys on the ethics committee wants Harvey and Louis to drum up a lawsuit against one of his competitors, to drive the stock prices down. If they do this, then he'll make sure Rachel passes the ethics portion of the bar. Harvey has an idea - maybe he can get this unscrupulous guy to get Mike to pass the bar as well. Mike turns Harvey down, since drumming up this lawsuit is pretty illegal, but he later says yes, because he wants to be able to actually represent his clients.
This is the part where my opinion is split... at the start of this review, I was complaining about how the plot lines are too separated from each other. But this way of pushing Harvey and Mike back together seems a bit uninspired. You're telling me that after everything, Mike's willing to break the law again to be a lawyer? And you're telling me that Harvey, after spending all season focusing on Mike instead of focusing on the firm, is going to continue to bend over backwards to help Mike, despite breaking more rules to do so? There might be a lesson in here, somewhere. There might be something about how people never change, and how Harvey and Mike are actually just... bad, selfish people. But I think we're meant to root for these guys, and they're making it a little hard to do that just now.
Pros:
I know I just harped on this episode in a big way, but there were actually a lot of things I enjoyed about it. Donna's plot thread was stupid, but Benjamin is a delightful character and it's always nice to see him. Louis and Tara's plot was stupid, but I do admit to enjoying the continuing trend of Louis noticing his mistakes and remedying them appropriately. It feels like real character growth.
Speaking of character growth, my favorite plot thread of the night was the one involving Rachel getting screwed over by the bar examiners. She rushes to Louis, who then rushes to Harvey. Harvey notices that Louis didn't just run off and make things worse, and Louis replies that he's committed to running this firm as partners. He needs to acknowledge that Harvey is better at some things than Louis is. Harvey uses the opportunity to joke around with Louis about being better at everything, and it felt like a genuine, fun moment between friends. Harvey later returns the compliment by telling Louis he's better at financial transactions, asking him to find out why this corrupt ethics committee member wants to mess with his competitor's stock. If one of the outcomes of this season can be Harvey and Louis finally being on the same page and working together effectively, then I'm all for it. (Still haven't forgiven Louis for attacking Mike that one time, though. In case anybody was wondering, I hold grudges).
Mike's story at the legal clinic, while somewhat disconnected from the rest of the episode, is actually pretty compelling. The woman from last week who Mike tried to save actually ends up evicted anyway. It's a tragic story, one that's supposed to be pushing Mike into taking up Harvey's offer of getting him through the bar. I'm not quite convinced about that aspect, but whatever. I like these characters - you have Oliver, the lawyer who gets flustered in court and ends up costing his client her home, and you've got Marissa, the third year law student who's a bit cocky but undeniably brilliant. I like Mike's boss, and I like the dynamic of having Mike be in charge of people who are his superiors in legal title, if not in experience. There's a lot of good material to explore here.
Let us end with the beginning of the episode, which saw Mike going to Harvey's place to apologize for yelling at him a few weeks back. He then tells Harvey that he and Rachel are going ahead with their wedding. Harvey, as best man, offers to have the wedding at his apartment, which it turns out is what Mike was hinting at in the first place. This scene is inter-cut with Rachel asking Donna to be her maid of honor. You know me - I love some Mike/Harvey bromance. I was really glad to see Mike apologizing, because he was seriously out of line for yelling at Harvey. Also, how cute was their banter? I just love their back-and-forth. I laughed out loud when Harvey says something about making sure Mike doesn't bail on this wedding, and Mike responds "yeah, and we need to make sure you don't *cough* Donna at the wedding." That was priceless.
That's where I'll stop. I had a lot of problems with this episode of Suits, but I haven't given up on the possibility of a comeback. There's still a lot of good story potential here.
6.5/10
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