#non-force users

[crazynerdandproud]

If Bruce Wayne lived in the star wars universe he would be a Mandalorian

#i mean he's got the classic adoption problems #superman would obviously be like the perfect jedi (btw we dont hate on jeid here) #nightwing would most def be a mandalorian jedi #and talia would be deathwatch #also lets make her a descendant of tarre vizsla #that way Dami can be one as well #bruce was adopted by a random mandalorian named alfred who he had never met before when he was agremlin child after his parents death #tim is originally new mandalorian which is funny cause they're pacisifts and he well...isn't #bruce threatened to adopt kon if clark didnt #both tim and kon were very happy clark finally decided to accept his son cause bruce adopting kon wouldve made stuff all kinds of awkward #idk who all are jedi or just non jedi or sith affiliated force users #sorry i got distracted #i really want to read a dc star wars fusion fic now #but yeah batman would def be a mando

[incorrect-first-order]

WARNING: AHSOKA SPOILERS

My thoughts on Sabine being Force-sensitive are...complicated.

So it seems like the implication is indeed that anybody could train themselves to use the Force, regardless of innate ability, through sheer discipline and willpower. I don't like that, but I might have been willing to begrudgingly accept it if they committed to it.

Sabine is badass, I loved her in Rebels and I love her in Ahsoka, but is she really so determined as to be able to use the Force without being born Force-sensitive? They haven't really shown her being that dedicated. They've shown her trying a couple times, for a few seconds. If you're going to tell me that Sabine, by sheer force of will alone, is able to do this, then show me. Show Sabine staying awake for days on end training until she collapses from exhaustion, show her being really, truly, maybe a little insanely, dedicated.

Because what we've got now is an implication that somehow other characters aren't Force-sensitive because they just don't have the self-discipline and willpower, and, well...is Chewbacca undisciplined? Is Han? Jyn? Cassian? Maarva? Mon? And of course, you knew I was gonna bring him up, Hux? If all it takes to make yourself Force-sensitive is sheer dedication and willpower, then...well, now, no character has an "excuse" for not being Force-sensitive.

Yes, I know that it's always been canon that every living thing is connected with the Force, but being able to consciously wield it has always been something that select people are innately able to do and everyone else isn't. Making it simply a matter of discipline, making it so that even someone whose innate Force-sensitivity "falls short of every Jedi padawan ever" can train herself to wield the Force effectively, makes lack of Force-sensitivity a personal failing and opens a ton of plot holes.

Not to mention, there are many Force users who are...not exactly "disciplined." Kylo Ren is one of the most powerful Force users in the current canon, and he is the exact opposite of disciplined. A big part of Anakin's whole problem that led to his downfall was lack of self-control. Ventress isn't one of the more powerful Force users, but she definitely is not disciplined. So, if mastery of the force is now a matter of self-discipline rather than innate ability, that raises some serious character questions.

We already had an explanation for why some people can use the Force and others can't. I know not everyone was fond of the midichlorians as a plot device, but they were canon, and they did offer a real explanation that didn't turn Force-sensitivity into a personal victory. It allowed for bad people to be able to use the Force and good people to be unable to do so.

Being able to use the Force should have stayed an innate ability you're born with or born without.

#long post #not an incorrect quote #ahsoka spoilers #ahsoka series spoilers #overall i enjoyed ahsoka but episode 8 was disappointing #sorry i love sabine but i am Not buying that her self-discipline and sheer willpower outdoes all the other non-force-user characters

[loth-creatures]

NO ONE TALK TO ME I JUST WATCHRD THE AHSOKA TRAILER FUCKKDJ SHIT FUCK I AM NOT GOING TO SURVIVE THIS FUCKING SHOWW HJKHDFGJSAAAASDDD

#I think some of its going to be good #There is hope yet #unless they make Sabine force sensitive??? I need to watch it again #Multiple times like on loop for like awhile #Now it would be COOL AF ACTUALLY if Ahsoka decided to just teach a non force user the ways of the jedi. Why not? Finish what kanan started #Massive missed opportunity if they're seriously gonna make bine Force-sensitive tho come on #But oh I am intrigued by the dynamic being set up here praying they don't fuck it up #sabine wren #swr #ahsoka series #ahsoka tano #eel thoughts

[oreolesbian]

does… does dave filoni know that the whole “anyone can be force sensitive if they put their mind to it” bullshit fundamentally shatters the entire core of star wars world-building around force users? like - does he understand that?

#force sensitivity being a measurable trait that is only in CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS is a crucial element to a lot of the conflict/story of sw #a) the jedi & sith philosophies are built around the question of why individuals are made force sensitive and others aren’t #it’s literally WHY the jedi and sith have a generation spanning conflict #b) why would the empire hunt down force sensitive children if anyone can use the force #c) why would luke and leia be the only hope in the ot if ANYONE CAN BE A FORCE USER #d) why would any jedi or sith organization spend time looking for force sensitive people to train #if they can just get anyone #e) why would anakin be brought into the order in the first place if not for his high measure of force ability a la midicholrians #f) why would non force sensitive sabre wielders like grievous not just LEARN the force #g) why are the jedi/sith mythologized if the force is so easily accessible #h) why tf is anything important IF ANYONE CAN USE THE FORCE #god FUCK this is so stupid #and no i haven’t watched the show (i never had plans to) i just heard through the grapevine #and i’ve been losing it over this specific thing - honestly couldn’t care less about the rest #sw critical

[eorzeashan]

ugh...the lane quest glitched out for me on the mouse droid >.>

#swtor #ooc #sucks that this game is so buggy sometimes #i'll try it again tomorrow #i like the whole spy aspect of it non-force users are eating good at least with these missions

[bolithesenate]

i have just found out about the term 'Force-botherer' to insult a jedi and by everything that's good and holy you better bet that i will now use this an absurd amount in my writing

#that is exactly the brand of dumb humor i have #just... imagine #rival padawans calling each other force-botherers #or also rivallyning masters with diffrent force paradigms #or even non-temple affiliated force users in regards to the jedi #it opens up so many crack possibilities

[meowonhao]

soo crazy to me how in the last year with minghao, dokyeom, hoshi, joshua, junhui, and now woozi (idk if i'm missing someone) y'all are way too ready and eager to automatically throw them under the bus over something some random person (usually antis) said online and then like a day or two later when everyone comes to the consensus that it wasn't actually that big of a deal or even wrong/bad in the first place (which you could've figured out yourself from the beginning by just doing like. 30 seconds of research and exercising your critical thinking skills) everyone just moves on like nothing happened and goes back to being a fan/stanning them or whatever like you weren't just going with the crowd and shit-talking them 12 hours ago

#not even going to get into how so many problems arise from no understanding of korean/asian culture #and relying on half-assed and sometimes just straight up wrong translations #like cool you don't have to know everything about a culture or be fluent in a language but #that also means you probably shouldn't be speaking on certain things at all much less without even trying to look into it a bit more #anyways..yeah i'm sorry maybe i'm delusional but i definitely am going to default to trusting my idols #and then figuring out for myself if i really think they did something that bad or “cancel” worthy #before i'm about to believe some random twitter/tumblr/tiktok user and just go with whatever they tell me to think about something #and most of y'all don't apologize or clarify anything. just move on right after hurling the most abhorrent accusations against these people #who are people too in case anyone forgot #but then an idol kills themselves and everybody boohoo's and cries and acts like they just can't believe how this happened again #like it's you. you're why #and i can only speak on the last year of course bc that's how long i've been an actual carat and kept up with them to this extent #i'm sure other stupid stuff has happened before that too with other members #i just think if you're so ready to toss away your idols without giving them like any benefit of the doubt whatsoever you just need to go #i hate when i see this stuff too bc i'm usually only seeing the korean side of stuff and most of these things are such a non-issue here #bc people know better (not saying there aren't some crazy fans everywhere but) #then i see some dumb shit on tumblr dot com that either only has links to some dumb twitter thread #or i have to search for on twitter because again. i do not see stuff from int'l fans unless i am forced to or look it up intentionally #and just saying the timing of these things is always so calculated by antis and y'all fall for it every single time #this is all i have to say bc i just remembered the whole thing abt ppl trying to say hao was being fatphobic or something dumb #and then i remembered everything else and it just made me mad all over again lol #if anyone disagrees with any of this feel free to block me🥰

[azemessence]

Lieutenant Commander Lliyata

#myart #twi'lek #swtor #oc: lliyata #we love non-force-users holding positions in sith cults #that shield is like the sniper take cover shield in that it collapses and expands #think brig shield from ow #the staff also collapses and fits on the small of his back #other weapons include a combat knife - a sidearm pistol - and an expanding rifle he carries on his back #190lbs out of armor. 230 in. #was the dragoon armor a big inspo for his gear? yes. but he's in a sith dragon cult it works. also i was struggling with making him twi'lek #because of the silhouettes? and i realized ''y'know what would fix this? horns on the lekku.''

[miss-spixx]

oh my god filoni i am rapidly approaching your location with a fucking brick

#FORCE SENSITIVE #the one fucking thing i feared from this show #sabine has no reason to be force sensitive what so ever #she is not a jedi #she was always distinctly mandalorian #i think it was an interesting concept to continue exploring with a non force user training like a jedi but going last minute saying hey #this non force user actually can use the force all along! #i knew in my heart that the were going to do this but man did i have hope #ahsoka spoilers #sabine wren

[distractionpie]

weirdly one particular work of mine seems to a magnet for that 'ai fic detected' bot and i'm like 'silly bot, if ai wrote this it wouldn't have so many typos'

#it's not that the bot accusations overly perturb me #nobody is going to take 'ⲧⲏⲓ𝛓 ⲱⲁ𝛓 ⲱꞅⲓⲧⲧⲉⲛ ⲃⲩ ⲁⲓ' from ao3 non-user aasdfg seriously #but the repeated notifications about spam comments are getting annoying enough that it might force me to turn of anon comments

[usagi-s2]

Dad for one fic rec!

Theseus' Ship by LifeOfMystery, LittleLovelyLizard, TrenchcoatRats, Zyla_SweetBean

Summary: all for one is an AI controlled ship designed to take care of the children aboard it to the very best of its ability. As Izuku discovers new information about their situation all for one takes a special interest in him.

#僕のヒーローアカデミア | Boku no Hero Academia | My Hero Academia #Midoriya Izuku #Sensei | All For One #First One For All User (My Hero Academia) #Alternate Universe - Science Fiction #Alternate Universe - Artificial Intelligence #Non-Consensual Body Modification #Forced adoption #Alternate Universe - Parent Sensei | All For One Keeps Midoriya Izuku Isolated | Vault Time #Possessive Sensei | All for One #Sensei | All For One is Not Midoriya Hisashi #Angst #Sensei | All For One is Midoriya Izuku's Parent

[d-valkyr]

personal star wars hc

the outlander is the chosen one of their time like revan, anakin, luke and rey in theirs

#yes even the non force users #swtor #star wars the old republic #kotor #the old republic #knights of the old republic #star wars

[yuuminni]

nothing funnier than goldmary joining the team saying "sorry if i make your other teammates seem obsolete" and then you look at her stats and its. painfully mediocre.

#cringefail girl #and if you look at reddit ppl will be like if you invest in her she will neither be strong or a particular hard hitter but she'll #be so good as a backup bot. #and im like ok i would much rather keep my bouchie thank you very much #no way im replacing her with louis louis is taking 0 damage and she. is not exactly a 'dodgetank' #and like ppl keep being like 'but louis is so week against mages!' well first of all why are you sending him out against mages. #second of all you can send someone with actual high avoid rate and decent res like chloe to take out the mages #and then louis will make an excellent bait for the team to heal up if need be #and then when they all swarm him the team can catch up and patch him up while attacking in full force #like literally there is no reason to replace louis with GM #she cant replace kagetsu. obviously. she can maaaaybe replace diamant. but he is still bulkier #and there is little intention to reclass alear to a non sword user class #spear.... there is already chloe #like i see no reason to use her. but! i must admire the reddit dedication to their waifus #duri vs fe

[hopegained]

for someone with his build and height, you'd think he'd be making a noise every time he so much as moves a muscle, but he's incredibly silent when he walks. he's not doing it on purpose either... most of the time.

#(he's been Like That since childhood and always scares non-force users shitless when he appears behind/next to them 💀) #(all the more reasons why he's such a great infiltrator lol) #(*i posted this with a wrong tag bc my ass wasn't reading) #headcanon.

[eorzeashan]

Admin hyperfixates on small spot of underdeveloped branches that only matters to him part 2: I think the IRS is becoming my favorite new division because there can be no cause more honorable than the preservation and discovery of knowledge and the active mobilization to combat said sources of knowledge if they prove to be dangerous to the galaxy as a whole. Wars are fought over weapons of mass-destruction, and every side is guilty of this-- only scholars and historians would know the true weight of their duty in deciding whether enlightening the world to what they discover is worth the potential risk, and I'm continually obsessed with having to battle not only others who would use said artifacts for the worst, but your own countrymen more concerned with absolute power over knowledge they have been deprived of. The back and forth struggle of a scholar in wartime and their employed agents forced to fight to protect these things at their judgment is SOOO intriguing to me. It defies the factions but also retains that sense of infighting in the Sith Empire for its well-being.

I also highly enjoy the thought of secretly working with say, the Republic or smugglers to get these relics destroyed/offworld because this fight defies all sides.

#swtor #imperial reclamation service #the cold war over weapons of untold power is a defining aspect of sw and the old republic #and I highly enjoy the thought of eight becoming a mainstay in it bc the other branches are like haha what could you possibly do you're all #weak nerds who don't know of true batt- *IRS pushes eight to the front* IS THAT A FUCKING CIPHER #ohshitmybad.mp3 #and knowing his battle would be for something truly honorable...eight would fight like hell #and don't get me started on a branch of non force users that can see the force as beneficial to them as well even if they donthave it #spriggan. metal gear. do you understand

[vespertine-legacy]

ehehehehe

#I turned tulia’s senya into an approximate zhorrid #she’s the closest human female force-user companion tulia has #dark hair that’s pulled back - blue eyes - single saber - good enough! #sure she’s got her weird little forehead crystals and no scars but I can’t be too choosey on a non-customizable companion #(besides I’m pretty sure that it was zoe and I that Made Each Other Sad one time with ideas about what if Zhorrid escaped to Zakuul) #anyway I put the Outfit on her and got her the right saber and crystal #and then I stared at them for a really long time #because tulia can never see zhorrid again in-game and it’s been that way for a long time #but I can pretend god damn it