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madreemeritus · 6 months

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POTO adaptations analysis — Part 2 — The Phantom of the Opera (1987), by Al Guest and Jean Mathieson, starring Aiden Grennel and Collete Proctor

Oh this goofy ass animation... here we go

Positive points:

– it's weirdly Leroux accurate

– the cellars are very well designed to be fair

– it has some cool tension scenes (for kids sure but still)

– Erik's voice acting is pretty fine

– Raoul is treated as the selfish asshole he is supposed to be 🙏🏼

– we have The Persian! Yay!

– the ending includes both the Grasshoper and the Scorpion and the heartbreaking redemption

– we have iconic Leroux Erik lines!

– Christine pities and defends Erik during most of the time 💞

– Erik's deformity is surprisingly well made, although his eyes are so weird

Negative points:

– the animation is so crappy and takes away the imersion and seriousness most of the time

– the designs are so horribleb holy shit, Christine is the most generic whatever and Raoul looks like Elvis Presley, Erik's clothes are also meh

– Daroga has the most racist and inacurate representation 🤦🏽‍♀️

– ERIK KILLS A CAT??!! Erik hates people, sure (yet he doesn't kill them just because he doesn't like them), but he is a complete Team Animal person. Look how well he treated Cesar, why he killed a cat here?! It makes no sense, Erik would never kill innocent animals

– holy shit the Masquerade scene, wtf are Christine and Raoul wearing?? and Red Death also (great for memes but as an adaptation is so WHAT??)

– PotO shouldn't be made for kids, all the nuances and sexual themes of the story are completely forgotten and the characters lose their depth

– i missed Carlotta's arc at lot

– idk if i consider this a bad point, but anyway some random dude dies in the middle of the story and The Persian accuses Erik of killing him, Erik didn't even have the time to defend himself

– Erik's past is not explained, not even briefly

Movie score: 6/10 🌕🌕🌗🌑🌑

#the phantom of the opera #poto #poto animated #the phantom of the opera 1987 #poto 1987 #poto adaptations #my writing

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wheel-of-fish · 2 years

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my favorite animated daroga gifs

#phantom of the opera #poto 1987 #daroga #gifset #edit

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piedalchemist · 2 years

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#phantom of the opera #poto 1989 #erik destler #actual erik destler #robert englund #my post #poto #poto 1987 #poto 1983 #poto shitpost

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lif3onmars · 1 month

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*Burps*

Erik from The Phantom of The Opera 1987 Cartoon

#phantom of the opera #erik the phantom #poto #opera ghost #erik destler #phantom of the opera 1987 #Erik 1987

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britishchick09 · 2 years

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i have ideas for some poto rewrite mysteries and one of them was a little mystery about the 1873 salle la peletier fire, but i’ve turned it into something so much more! ;)

christine is spooked af when erik tells her about the ernest legend (around halloween time!) and her fear grows when mysterious things start happening, things that aren’t the opera ghost’s fault. throw in a mysterious sound in the water cellar corridor that clearly doesn’t belong to erik and a newspaper article about a woman’s death by fire in ‘73 and you’ve got yourself a haunting question... could ernest be real? :o

while christine is figuring that out, she decides to perform a small part in the latest opera. the only problem is that her song is a duet that has alike actresses and no one else sounds like her... no one except everyone’s fave rouge-wearing, romance-loving, curtsy-enjoying, ghost-appearing demiboy! ;D

...who sounds a lot like christine ;)

after some vague threatening from the opera ghost, erik is now luciana petrie, the twin of mira petrie! he gets to sing with christine as a girl and it’s awesome ^_^

what’s not awesome is... CARLOTTA ESPINOZA IS BACK BISHES >:)

her fiance is locked up for trying to kill the phantom of the opera and her heart was too, but 3 months later, she’s ready to sing again! too bad christine’s still here...

but wait! why are there two christines? who in the world is this mysterious tall woman with the golden voice that clearly sounds better than su alteza real y perra? carlotta asks a still costumed erik who he is and he introduces himself as kristin claudin devereux (and she’s very charmed to meet carlotta, dear!)

later, christine asks erik why he did this and he says that carlotta definitely knows about him thanks to piangi spilling the beans during his arrest. besides, she seemed happier when talking to ‘kristin’, a side he and christine have never seen before! not only is this a chance for erik to craft a third persona (after og and mr. e), but it’s a clever way to get to know carlotta...

maybe she’s too earnest compared to how she was before? ;)

#this is a rewrite story so of course there are adaptation references! ;)#the reference train doesn't stop at the rewrite itself folks! ;D #the opera twins (mira and luciana petrie) are named after girls from opera 1987 & susan kay's 'phantom' and 1962 phantom's last name #kristin claudin devereux is christine's sydmonton name 1943 phantom's last name and erik's name in 'journey of the mask' a 2000 book #i had never heard of that book until looking up erik's last names #it's pretty neat! :D #this mystery was so much fun to create! :D #i've only written a few small parts so far (something i do with stories i plan to write but who knows if i'll get around to them)#erik is spooking christine with the story and meg is ready to solve the ernest mystery! :D #and carlotta is very charmed by this kristin woman... ;)#also here's a little fun fact: her last name (espinoza) means 'thorny' which is perfect for her! ;)#poto rewritten

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marybeatriceofmodena · 1 year

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Trading Site Reopening and Gifting Spree!

So. After weeks of work (*insert alpaca scream here*), my trading site is open for trading! To celebrate, I decided to gift a few audios and videos from Phantom of the Opera, a few audios from Les Misérables, two cast recordings from Elisabeth das Musical, and a cast recording for Sweeney Todd. Enjoy!

(If you're the master of a listed audio/video, please don't hesitate to reach out to me if you want me to remove your stuff from the list.)

POTO audios

Michael Crawford, Rebecca Caine (alt.), Steve Barton October 10, 1987; London Michael Crawford and Steve Barton's last in London. Soundboard, very good quality, and this one is complete. And Rebecca Caine sounds amazing in it (as she always does). https://www.mediafire.com/file/pttrjfqzb84gatm/POTO_West_End_10-10-1987_-_Crawford%252C_Caine%252C_Barton.rar/file Steve Barton, Rebecca Luker, Gary Lindemenn (u/s), Marilyn Caskey, Jeff Keller, George Lee Andrews, Leila Martin September 26, 1990; Broadway Soundboard audio. Because Steve Barton was almost as good of a Phantom as he was as Raoul, and Rebecca Luker is a legend (RIP). https://www.mediafire.com/file/xc9ywojtdesptje/POTO_Broadway_26-09-1990_-_Barton%252C_Luker%252C_Lindemenn.rar/file Davis Gaines, Tracy Shayne, Matthew R. Jones, George Lee Andrews, Jeff Keller, Lelia Martin October 5, 1996; Broadway Davis Gaines's last performance. Because Davis Gaines has one of the best voices I've heard in the role. https://www.mediafire.com/file/w1ybvl8v6e4ex6r/POTO_Broadway_05-01-1996_-_Gaines%252C_Shayne%252C_Little.rar/file Brad Little, Lisa Vroman, Tim Martin Gleason, Kim Stengel, DC Anderson, David Cryer, Patti Davidson-Gorbea, Kate Wray, Jimmy Smagula December 5, 2003; Los Angeles Lisa Vroman’s second-to-last performance as Christine. Both she and Brad Little are glorious vocal-wise. https://www.mediafire.com/file/muavx4ocvs62eav/POTO_US_Tour_05-12-2003_-_Little%252C_Vroman%252C_Gleason.rar/file Anthony Warlow, Julie Goodwin, John Bowles, Andrea Creighton, John O'May, Derek Taylor, Jackie Rees, Nadia Komazec, David Rogers-Smith August 15, 2007; Melbourne Not the biggest fan of Anthony Warlow acting-wise, but he does not disappoint on the vocals - and neither does Julie Goodwin. https://www.mediafire.com/file/3pm0ksips30n3it/POTO_Melbourne_15-08-2007_-_Warlow%252C_Goodwin%252C_Bowles.rar/file John Owen-Jones, Katie Hall, Simon Bailey, Angela M. Caesar, Andy Hockley, Simon Green, Elizabeth Mars, Hannah Cadec, Vincent Pirillo September 29, 2012; Edinburgh Not the biggest fan of the restaged tour, but... Katie Hall's "Tears of HAAAAAATE" is pretty great. And John Owen-Jones! https://www.mediafire.com/file/00vtvziy172lpkv/POTO_UK_Tour_29-09-2012_-_Owen-Jones%252C_Hall%252C_Bailey.rar/file Hugh Panaro, Elizabeth Welch (u/s), Jeremy Hays March 3, 2014; Broadway Great trio overall, but Elizabeth Welch is a standout (to me at least). https://www.mediafire.com/file/1hc1ozi96vok5pd/POTO_Broadway_03-03-2014_-_Panaro%252C_Welch%252C_Hays.rar/file Dmitry Ermak, Tamara Kotova, Eugeny Zaytsev, Irina Samoylova, Alexei Bobrov, Yuri Mazihin, Elena Charkviani, Valeria Migalina, Rustim Bahtiyarov (u/s) July 16, 2015; Moscow A lovely production that I miss - Tamara Kotova in particular is great. https://www.mediafire.com/file/w56tx5d7fkh4kse/POTO_Moscow_16-07-2015_-_Ermak%252C_Kotova%252C_Zaytsev.rar/file John Owen-Jones, Celinde Schoenmaker, Nadim Naaman, Megan Llewellyn, Michael Matus, Christopher Dickens, Jacinta Mulcahy, Alicia Beck, John Ellis September 7, 2015; London First performance of the 2015-2016 cast. https://www.mediafire.com/file/5hswf44ldku6ngm/POTO_West_End_07-09-2015_-_Owen-Jones%252C_Schoenmaker%252C_Naaman.rar/file Peter Jöback, Emmi Christensson, Anton Zetterholm, Karolina Andresson, Glenn Kjellberg, Rolf Lydhal, Sanna Martin, Tehilla Blad, Sindre Postholm March 19, 2017; Stockholm Given Christine is from Sweden, it's only fair to include the recent Stockholm production. https://www.mediafire.com/file/zkl38t9388gcvh7/POTO_Sweden_2017-03-19_PJ_EC_AZ.wav/file Tim Howar, Amy Manford, Jeremy Taylor, Kimberly Blake, Ross Dawes, Alan Vicary, Jacinta Mulcahy, Georgia Ware, Paul Ettore Tabone September 7, 2019; London This one is different from the one listed as NFT (so don't get mad at me, haha). Last performance for Amy Manford in the West End production. https://www.mediafire.com/file/vf60ie1er18rkon/POTO_West_End_07-09-2019_-_Howar%252C_Manford%252C_Taylor.rar/file Ben Crawford, Meghan Picerno, John Riddle October 26, 2019 Because we all love a Christine with opera chops. https://www.mediafire.com/file/9gji0khgfoazjqd/POTO_Broadway_26-10-2019_-_Crawford%252C_Picerno%252C_Riddle.rar/file

POTO videos

Earl Carpenter, Rachel Barrell, David Shannon, Wendy Ferguson, David Lawrence (u/s), Sam Hiller, Emily Harvey (u/s), Heidi Ann O'Brien, Rohan Tickell January 2006 VOB format. If you want to see Earl in London right now but can't... this video is the best quality overall that features him, and Rachel Barrell is a fantastic Christine - one of my favorites in the role. https://mega.nz/folder/u09GQKyR#gjNHj4Letd9YInTsuLowjA Gary Mauer, Elizabeth Southard, Jim Weitzer, Kim Stengel, John Jellison, DC Anderson, Patti Davidson-Gorbea, Kate Wray, John Whitney April 6, 2006; Dallas VOB format. For my Eristine moots (I see you!): Gary Mauer and Elizabeth Southard were (and as far as I know, still are) married while performing as the Phantom and Christine, and you thought Ramin and Sierra's chemistry was off the charts, think again. https://mega.nz/folder/PtExxS5A#D4yyf2g_lXoN-cIDPkMU2Q Anthony Crivello, Kristi Holden, Andrew Ragone, Geena Jeffries Mattox, John Leslie Wolfe, Lawson Skala, Tina Walsh, Brianne Kelly Morgan, Larry Wayne Morbitt August 8, 2008; Las Vegas VOB format. This is the Las Vegas Spectacular production, which is abriged compared to the original but totally worth seeing. If you want to understand why I love Meg Giry so much, Brianne Kelly Morgan is one of the best I've ever seen in the role. Also, if you’re meh about Raoul... with Andrew Ragone, think again. He’s one of the most Superman/Clark Kent Raouls I’ve seen. And I really like Kristi Holden’s Leroux-esque Christine too. https://mega.nz/folder/Sh1zxSAB#twtXau8Y8pd_L9tMQLa4Mg Jeremy Stolle (u/s), Samantha Hill, Greg Mills (u/s), Michele McConnell, Tim Jerome, Richard Poole (u/s), Ellen Harvey, Kara Klein, Christian Sebek March 9, 2013 VOB format. Missing part of Act 1 (‘Stranger Than You Dreamt It’ to Il Muto), but otherwise complete. This is one of the best trios I've seen on Broadway, and Samantha Hill is just a fantastic Christine overall. https://mega.nz/folder/y1slyJRD#OP1Tp5Cj_fMk9LbAWJMqAA Tomas Ambt Kofod, Sibylle Glosted, Christian Lund, Louise Fribo, Carl Christian Rasmussen, Sebastian Harris, Elisabeth Halling, Imogen-Lilly Ash, Rasmus Jupin March 2019; Copenhagen VOB format. This one is more recent, but given it's been uploaded on YouTube, I guess it's fine to gift it (again, if you’re the master and you want me to remove this, please let me know).This one has one of the best casts ever caught on tape. Seriously. Everyone in this is a star. https://mega.nz/folder/q40hTagI#Zui14MWo-F2YSQ0gNdaL6Q

Les Mis Audios

Colm Wilkinson, Roger Allam, Patti LuPone, Alun Armstrong, Sue Jane Tanner, Michael Ball, Frances Ruffele, Rebecca Caine, David Burt 1985; London Preview at the Barbican Centre. This is interesting since it includes Cosette's song "I Saw Him Once", which has been cut later. https://www.mediafire.com/file/jbedqiemuk9qnd1/Les_Mis_West_End_1985_-_Wilkinson%252C_Allam.rar/file Symphonic recording (1989) Gary Morris, Philip Quast, Debra Byrne, Michael Ball, Tracy Shayne, Kaho Shimada, Anthony Warlow, Barry James, Gay Soper https://www.mediafire.com/file/n7gp30jcpnjfkf7/Les_Miserables_Symphonic_Recording.rar/file Kyle Jean-Baptiste (u/s), Earl Carpenter, Erika Henningsen, Chris McCarrell, Samantha Hill, Brennyn Lark, Max Quinlan (u/s), Gavin Lee, Rachel Izen August 13, 2015; Broadway For Kyle Jean-Baptiste, who was an amazing performer gone way too soon. RIP. https://www.mediafire.com/file/fzj2qubunkrrfhc/Les_Mis_Broadway_13-08-2015_-_Jean-Baptiste%252C_Carpenter.rar/file John Owen-Jones, Michael Ball, Carrie Hope Fletcher, Craig Mather (u/s), Lily Kerhoas, Shan Ako, Bradley Jaden, Matt Lucas, Katy Secombe, Earl Carpenter October 16, 2019; London All-star concert! https://www.mediafire.com/file/nh28zdry93vhry2/Les_Mis_London_Concert_16-10-2019_-_Owen-Jones%252C_Ball.rar/file

Elisabeth das Musical

Original Cast Recording (1992) Pia Douwes, Uwe Kroeger, Ethan Freeman, Andreas Bieber, Viktor Gernot, Else Ludwig https://www.mediafire.com/file/fagi9ctooeq2y11/Elisabeth-Original_German_Cast.rar/file Vienna revival cast recording (2006) Maya Hakvoort, Mate Kamaras, Serkan Kaya, André Bauer, Fritz Schmid, Else Ludwig https://www.mediafire.com/file/7wpqbotp8oszzz3/Elisabeth_-_2006_Vienna_Cast.rar/file

Sweeney Todd

2000 Concert Cast Recording George Hearn, Patti LuPone, Davis Gaines, Heidi Grant Murphy, Paul Plishka, Audra McDonald, Standford Olsen, Neil Patrick Harris, John Aler Pretty sure this isn't on Spotify, which is a real shame given its cast. So enjoy! EDIT: Someone pointed out to me that the recording is incomplete - probably a result of the Great Hardware Crash of 2016, so until I get the full version, this will probably stay incomplete. Sorry about that! https://www.mediafire.com/file/ywoiqe5bnlzr7bs/Sweeney_Todd_2000_New_York_Concert_Cast.rar/file

#phantom of the opera #les miserables #elisabeth das musical #sweeney todd #too many people to tag lol #audio gift #video gift #musical trading

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operafantomet · 1 year

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Hi Anéa, I hope you're well! I've been taking a look at Meg's final lair outfit as an easier way to get into Broadway costuming. Are there any specific patterns/fabrics you recommend for the vest? It looks like the breeches are corduroy fabric, and I planned to hunt for a close enough dress shirt to modify lol. Thank you so much for your time and being such an incredible resource all these years 💖💖

First of all, thank you so much for your very kind words. I have gotten some amazinly kind messages around the Broadway closing, I feel like the POTO grandma (in a good way).

As for Meg's Final Lair costume, I am tempted to show you the variety in vest patters and fabrics, so you can choose your preferred style. Note too that the pattern of the shirt + eventual contrasting details in the collar tends to vary quite a bit. So Meg's Final Lair costume is basically choosing a red/brown/greyish/black palette, with a playful combination of patterns. Textures seems to be the goal, to work in the fairly dim scene. And interestingly, most costumes seen on stage to an opposite colour combo than seen in Maria Bjørnson's design. She suggests a golden vest and red breeches, but it's more common to see golden, brown or grey/black breeches and reddish vest.

So OK, Janet Devenish in the original West End production 1986-1987. Alas a b/w photo, but comparing to smaller curtain call photos we are talking a reddish/golden vest, brownish velvet breeches and a fairly plain light blue shirt:

Her second costume in 1988 feature many of the same details, but the shirt now has cuff and collar, and the vest is darker with a rose pattern. At this point she had alo gone from a red wig to a blonde wig:

Broadway look, with red brocade vest, black trims, black breeches and a stripy tan shirt:

A rarer colour combo from Toronto, with greenish small-patterned vest with cream collar, orange/brown velvet breeches and a greyish checkered shirt:

Hillay Reiter could be seen wearing a big-patterned paisley red vest with black brocade collar and pockets, brown corduroy breeches and plain light blue shirt in the last World Tour. The vest was previously used in Brazil, Argentina and Mexico:

A vest pattern seen in many different productions (hereunder West End, Copenhagen, the World Tour and South Korea) is the burgundy one with vertical floral stripes. But the exact execution and combos varies. First photo shows Cho Ha Rin in the current South Korean production, where the vest has a stripy red/yellow collar in West End style, a remarkably patterned shirt, and dark brown velvet breeches.

A different take on the same vest pattern, but here with a collar made of the main fabric, and combined with a dotty cream shirt and brown corduroy breeches. This costume was worn by Amelia Palmiro in the last World Tour:

A general look in many European productions in recent years has been reddish paisley vests and velvet breeches. Here's Lindsey Wise in West End wearing a reddish paisley vest, brown velvet breeches and a stripy/floral tan shirt:

A last variation for now is Brianne Kelly Morgan's fairly brown costume in Las Vegas. She wore a brocaded brown/grey (?) vest, stripy brown/black velvet breeches and a plain light shirt:

This is not a complete lit of different vest patterns and their respective combos. But it gives a sense of a fair deal of liberty when you want to put together your own costume. Breeches are usually of velvet and dark, but can be black, grey, darker brown or more golden, and also both plain or corduroy/stripy. Vests are often of reddish brocades, but black, green and golden versions can also be seen. And the shirt comes in different light colours, with dots, stripes, a combination of patterns, or they are plain.

In addition to this meg usually wears thick knitted stockings, black lace books and a knitted cap to hide her hair when she first enters the lair. And of course massive harness underneath, but this is rarely if ever seen and also maybe not something you would have to reproduce for a cosplay, heh!

Best of luck with your costume adventures!

#meg mask #final lair #meg giry #maria bjørnson #phantom of the opera

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zombinafonfrankenstein · 2 years

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evaluation of versions of the POTO by the Phantom's bow.

1925: 7 out of 10. A great sparkly ribbon.

1943: 8 out of 10. In color the ribbon is much better visible some way, which is good.

1962: 6 out of 10. Alas, over the years of living in the basement, the bow has become very frayed, as has its owner.

1987: where is the bow?

1989: the same question.

1990: 11 out of 10. So lush, and at the same time so light! He's beautiful!

2004: 2 out of 10. A neckerchief is, of course, beautiful, but it's not a bow.

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ghostyui · 1 year

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Just found out that poto has a 1987 animated film nobody talk to me for the rest of the day

#the phantom of the opera #maxispeaks

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henrysglock · 2 years

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NOW WAIT A MINUTE MY FAVORITE VERSION CAME OUT IN 1987?????????? poto confirmed pack it up everyone i’ve got the duffers figured OUT

#stranger things #phantom of the opera #st5 headcanons

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vampacidic · 2 years

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SAGE *shakes you like a snowglobe, then sets you down and gives u a leetle kiss on the forehead /p* I HOPE YOU ARE MARVELOUS AND AMAZING AND WONDERFUL ON THIS FINE EVENING

i hope it is the evening for you orz

ANYWAY how's your day been???? been doing anything fun~? also. i wish to partake in poto. i feel like you recommended a place to start way back when i first asked but um. a refresher would be appreciated (´｡• ω •｡`)

HEHEHE HI LEO!!!! a little kiss... i will cherish it. huhuhu.... hehehe m doin okay... lot better than yesterday <- had a paranoia episode with varying degrees of rationale behind it (i am ok btw i just had a rough night) IT IS EVENING BTW dw. i am just a sleepy fella cause i go to bed at like 9pm (i am a grandma)

i've spent the day reading + editing my fic... m almost done with it...! finishing editing tomorrow probably and then i will. collapse. beta reader will receive it (hi dino). i made my pancakes you saw that fiasco. it was very fun though...!

OK POTO. personally i started with andrew lloyd webber's musical (specifically the 2006 movie. it's very accessible but in the nicest way possible the soundtrack is kinda laughably bad. when you are a musical movie and try to change the song so it has more dialogue...? also the guy you cast as. the phantom. cant sing. so he is just yelling all of his lines). there's a bunch of albums up on spotify but my personal favorite is the 1987 cast recording (here). it's very good i love it soooo much. there are a lot of bootlegs up online but if you want to do something more legal the 25th anniversary production of ALW's POTO got an official recording and it's a great show. oh it's so good leo Shakes You. it's available on dvd and you can buy it on like amazon (i got mine at barnes and noble). since poto is in public domain there's like 828372927372874 different books/musicals/etc based off of the original novel. personally? have not read a lot of them (read: none) but one of my favorite spin offs is the phantom of manhattan by frederick forsyth. not because it's good but because it's laughably bad. i enjoy it a lot. would not recommend it unless you reeeeally wanna go down the ALW pipeline. anyway

since the original novel (leroux) is in public domain it's online. bunch of different places (wikisource). it is originally a french novel so it is a TL. i will now tell you some history of the novel because i enjoy it. so the book is very Very loosely based on real life events. in the early 20th century the chandelier in the paris opera house fell (killed one and injured a couple more). so coupled with rumors of a ghost leroux was like hmmmm i will write a book about this. so it's a like. true crime fanfic basically? best way to put it? it was also published serially which explains some of the weird pacing things in the novel. one of the main appeals while it was published was like. it would introduce characters and you'd have to be like 'oh who is the one causing mischief in the theater? ohohoho?' which is kind of lost since the phantom is such a cultural icon now. it's also supposed to be horror but i uh. physically Can't read it as horror. so much of it feels like a really funny crack fic. it's very fun though. wild ride.

#IM RIRED SORRY IF THIS IS. INCOMRPEHENSICE #ask #leo i love you you're so sweet. and i would like to give you a little kiss as well #you give me some real bunny vibes. you know that #also if you check my 'leo ask' tag you'll find the ask you previously mentioned i believe. ehehe #leo 🌸

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