#pro fujoshi

[proudproship]

Honestly I hate how so many antis say "women can't write m/m!!" because they think it's fetishizing...

As a fag myself, I think it's more homophobic to say slash is fetishizing than for a straight woman to write slash.

And even if it's an effeminate male character that's being sexualized then antis will say "this is fetishizing gay men!!!"

No, it's not. You saying it is is pushing a stereotype that all queer men are effeminate.

And I don't really believe in the fetishization of fictional gay men anyways.

Oh no, someone's bringing sex into sex! How horrible!

People get turned on by sex. It's 2024.

I don't care if the person saying it is a queer man themself, this just isn't okay to keep saying... Please please please stop saying "yaoi is homophobic!!!1!"

HOW IS A QUEER RELATIONSHIP HOMOPHOBIC??????

Meanwhile owl house is being called "so progressive!" and "so brave!" And I can GUARANTEE YOU that there is at least one non-woman attracted to women that worked on that cartoon.

Jesus Christ, the double standards sure are something...

It's all just a "target who they can reach and praise the rest to cover up their harassment" game to them, I guess.

#proship #anti anti #anti harassment #profic #proship safe #comship #proship please interact #profiction #comship please interact #pro yaoi #pro fujoshi #pro fudanshi #fujoshi #fudanshi #🌈🍖 #tw f slur

[transmascpetewentz]

the anti fujoshi crowd can actually make some good points about how cishet women fetishize gay men however you have to be a fucking idiot to think that a few straight women who happen to like yaoi also fetishizing real life gay men are equivalent to the hate that gay trans men have received due to the discourse. like do you just not understand how this happened or do you hate gay trans men. i'm not going to stick around long enough to find out

#wentz.txt #pro fujoshi #fujoshi discourse

[brettdoesdiscourse]

If you're going to gatekeep someone, that's bad enough as it is. But don't gatekeep them on somebody else's work. Do not speak for or over creators

#anti antis #pro ship #pro ship safe #pro shipping #pro fujoshi #fujoshi #shipping discourse #fandom discourse #brett does discourse

[honeydew-wecantwo]

anti-fujoshis weird me out so much , cus like you try to ""protect"" gay people from ""fetishizers"" so much they find themselves becoming homophobic in a way, themselves

like do y'all not realize that treating romance manga with straight couples normally, but being entirely too weird about who gets to read romance manga featuring gay couples does nothing but push people away from, well, engaging in media featuring gay couples??? not to mention that it locks people from exploring their gender and sexuality through media ??? is that the end goal here ???

and dont even get me started on anti-fujoshis immediately writing off any media written by asian people with a gay couple in its main plot as "fetishizing"... cus like wtf is the argument that "yaoi" is the impure bad side of the genre, and "boys love" is the wholesome good side.. like theyre the SAME WORD describing the SAME GENRE in two different languages???

#antis are just weird about EA people in general bro #pro fujoshi #proship #proship safe #antis dni

[the-proest-shipper]

I am the nasty proshitter your parents warned you about!!

#anti harassment #anti puritan #pro fiction #pro para #proship positivity #PROSHITTER #/silly #pro fujoshi

[caffeine-n-words]

Enjoying Queer Content Is Not Fetishizing Queer People

So, lately on Twitter there's been a lot of drama surrounding a VA who has made a lot of inflammatory comments in an effort to promote his own book.

"How A Cookie Tried to Sell a Book" sums it up pretty well. The article mentions that his best-known voice acting role is as Cream Unicorn Cookie in Cookie Run, and the only other known role (as per behindthevoiceactors.com) is in Given, a BL game. I've seen people here claim he also had a role in Genshin Impact, but that's not listed; however, JD Riley's article mentions that a Genshin Impact VA did come to King's defense.

(Also, yes, we're all reeling from the irony that one of his roles was in a BL game, and he's trying to tear down BL to promote himself. Gross.)

I'm sure this is all well known, but I wanted to provide context for this next statement: People who enjoy queer content, including fujoshi and women who do not identify as fujoshi, are not fetishizing queer people. They literally cannot be, because the people they're reading about aren't real.

Why is that important? Let's look at the definition of fetishize:

make (something) the object of a sexual fetish (women's bodies are so intensely fetishized) and

have an excessive and irrational commitment to or obsession with (something) (an author who fetishizes privacy)

Typically when people talk about cishet women fetishizing gay men by reading BL or MlM, they're talking about the first definition.

Fetishizing would be objectifying real gay men. Reading about fictional gay men in a relationship isn't objectifying real gay men. Reading about fictional gay men having sex isn't objectifying real gay men. Enjoying a fictional relationship between fictional gay men is not objectifying real gay men.

This also applies to other queer content.

In fact, continuing to insist that cishet people, women in particular, aren't allowed to read/view/enjoy queer content encourages the idea that somehow our content is dirty or needs to be hidden away from "the straights." This actively discourages having our communities accepted and normalized.

For example, queer romance should be just as available on bookshelves as cishet romance. If we put say, ten mlm romance books and ten cishet romance books on a table, people are going to see and buy them, including people who aren't in the target audience. If we keep insisting that people who aren't the target audience (in this case, fujoshi and other cishet women) aren't allowed to read the mlm romance books, fewer will be sold. If fewer sell, the store won't buy as many to put out, or just stop stocking it altogether. This encourages the idea that that content is gross, unsuitable for sale or view (even though that's not why it was pulled), and feeds into existing homophobic propaganda.

If someone actually fetishizes a real queer person, by all means, call out their behavior. It's harmful; it actually negatively affects a real person.

But let's stop it with "cishet women aren't allowed to read/watch this fictional content because it's fetishizing real gay people!" It's a false statement and getting tiresome.

#lgbtqia+ #pro fujoshi #pro fudanshi #pro fujin #boy's love #mlm #discussion of fetishization #gatekeeping queer content is not helpful #stop doing our oppressors' job for them #anti censorship #anti harassment #proship

[aquarian-airhead]

"ship responsibly" ??? what are you the fucking fujOSHA+

#“sHiP rEsPoNsIbLy” tf you talking to #yaoi #toxic yaoi #seminal fluids discourse #chest and rear discourse #anti censorship #fandom discourse #shipping discourse #pro fujoshi #fujoshi culture

[catgirl-catboy]

I feel like anti-fujoshi frequently do exactly what they accuse fujoshi of doing:

Reducing characters to their sexuality and not caring about them outside of that.

Only minus the sexual context.

#pro fujoshi #proship

[ihateliterature]

I think it's really telling how transphobic queer anti-fujo repurpose autogynephilia into autoandrophilia for the sake of attacking trans men

Because autogynephilia is wrong, that's a well known fact, the man that came out with it was a well known transphobe and homophobe. Trans women/femmes have been trying to correct the misinformation spread by the people who believe in it for decades. To this day, TERFs spread it to harm trans femmes. This theory still harms people, today, right now

But a bunch of queer people with a savior complex that got it in their heads that fujoshi are the most vile people on god's green earth looked at this wrong, harmful and highly offensive "scientific" theory and thought "oh, this seems like a very good idea, you know what we can use it for? Exactly, to prove that the cringe 'gay trans men' are actually just straight women fetishizing gay men. Such a good idea"

And this a message to the younger trans people hanging out in these circles and happily joining in. If the people you surround yourself with, eagerly use known transphobic theories against the trans people they don't like, then it's only a matter of time before they turn against you

But above all, this proves that they don't actually care about straight women reading bl. They don't care about the fetishization of gay men. They hate bl because they hate pornography and refuse to listen when people tell them that not all bl is pornographic because they've internalized the homophobic idea that 2 men holding hands is inherently pornographic. And they hate gay trans men, for being gay, being trans and being men

Like, you know that's the reason why this whole anti-fujo shit show even started, right? They can't use gay trans men in their "lost lesbians" fairy tale. They do it with t4t gay men, but, generally, you can't claim someone who is happily and enthusiastically loving men to be "a lesbian escaping mysoginy and lesbophobia" unless you want to corrode the separatist meaning of lesbianism you are trying to push. So, just like discourse happy queer people, they looked at autogynephilia and thought "Oh yeah, this works just fine"

#trans man #gay trans man #fujoshi #fudanshi #fujin #pro fujoshi #transmasc #transmasculine #gay transmasc #achillean

[notyourkidsbabysitter]

made a tumblr banner

#proship safe #proship positivity #proship #fujoshi #fujoshi safe #pro fujoshi

[proudproship]

As a gay man, I think there should be MORE fujoshis in the world.

Yaoi makes the world go 'round 💕

#proship #anti anti #anti harassment #profic #proship safe #comship #proship please interact #profiction #comship please interact #fujoshi #fudanshi #pro fujoshi #pro fudanshi

[mxbbadperson]

calling fujoshi "mlm fetishizers" is racist and the possibly still the majority and the first ever people who use fujoshi ARE FEMALE JAPANESE ARTISTS

#proship #fujoshi #pro fujoshi

[shrimpmandan]

Not a fujoshi or a fudanshi but agree with their beliefs

#fujoshi #fudanshi #pro fujoshi

[yukiosaki]

🚩 PEARL BOY <#조개소년> NEW UPDATE ♦️

"I don't wanna lose it. Never. I never want to lose it."

DOOSHIK'S PAST... JOOHA REALLY BRINGS HIM BACK THE MEANING OF LIFE. DOOSHIK IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN MAKE JOOHA SMILE LIKE THIS I’M TELLING YOU 🥺 💜

#boys love manga #yaoi #boy love #yaoihard #pro fujoshi #yaoi couple #yaoi webtoon #yaoiboy

[shipp-idoler]

I hope all fujoshi, fudanshi and fujin have a nice day today! I never understood why you guys get all that hate. you're doing great and you aren't fetishizing anyone just because of what media you like!

this also goes for himejoshi, himedanshi and himejin btw!! y'all are super cool too!!

stay hydrated, everyone!

- your local himejoshi/himejin

#proship positivity #fujoshi #fudanshi #fujin #himejoshi #himedanshi #himejin #pro ship #profic #proshippers please interact #anti harassment #pro shipper #proship safe #pro fujin #pro himejin #pro fujoshi #pro himedanshi #pro fudanshi #pro himejoshi

[krispysblorbos]

I feel like anti fujoshis are more homophobic than fujoshis because they literally think straight people (specifically women) can’t enjoy gay couples (specifically mlm) in fiction at all??? And then they throw around the term fetishization like they’re sexualizing real gay men.

also, being in a community of afabs that like mlm pairings is what made me realize I was a gay trans man and a lot of ppl can relate to that.

but of course, the anti fujoshis say that we’re just women who think being a gay man is an aesthetic 🙄

didn’t know wanting to cut my tits off was gay fetishization but ok

#Fujoshi #pro fujoshi #fujoshi discourse #transandrophobia