#s7 didn’t serve much but at least they served looks because LOOK AT THAT BEAUTY *.*

[xoxofandomlives]

What was Voltron s8???

Alright here we are, finished with Voltron forever, thank god. I should never picked up on this series. Please, please for the love of God, if you have not watched this show, DO NOT WATCH IT. It is such an dissatisfying ending and underwhelming build up with SO much lost potential. Here’s my review and spoilers under the cut.

1. ALLURA DIED. What was the point?! To show how high the stakes were in this war?! Allura literally has gone through way too much for the show to kill her off. She lost her family, her planet, her people, her father’s AI, her leadership, her crown, her agency, got her heartbroken, and now gets ripped apart from her new found family? What kind of writing is this??? It’s not fulfillment??? Sure I get there was foreshadowing in s5 especially with the White Lion reference, but you continuously tortured Allura and beating her up over the course of eight seasons, how does this entitle her losing her LIFE? This was not satisfying whatsoever and she didn’t even get to say goodbye to Coran?????? Funny how this same reasoning was applied to Adam, a character we knew nothing about, but oh! he’s related to Shiro and he’s gay?? 

2. Honerva. The resolution of her arc especially had me HEATED. How does one look into her past coMPLETELY change her ways??? I thought there would be some complex hand-to-hand combat scene or Allura duking it out with her, but no. One simple conversation and the power of friendship!!! I was already kind of annoyed that her big reason for all this was to reunite with her husband and son which literally sounds like a Disney villain and not a complex written one. When you write her as a big bad, her intention from the beginning should have at least evolved into her wanting a happy ending with her husband, but this literally only became clear in the last season. That’s poor writing and characterization.

3. Lotor???? What was the point of episode 2 showing all these signs that Lotor was a victim of abuse and validating his justified anger (not actions) toward everything IF YOU WEREN’T GOING TO REDEEM HIM. Even worse is you show his melting corpse. What even. I have been upset since s6 at the VLD team for writing Lotor’s arc like that and now I’m fuming. Humanizing Lotor and doing nothing to further a redemption arc????

4. Some of these fight scenes were so underwhelming and when Voltron gets beat down, here comes Keith and his power of friendship speech!!! What kills is that Shiro barely even serves any purpose and doesn’t give these speeches? When Voltron and the Atlas merged (which also was a weird and offputting decision b/c wow nothing like more robots when we HAVE SO MANY), Keith gives the whole we are stronger blahblah but the fact was Shiro was standing like right there in the same panel and he doesn’t say anything??? Like this is SHIRO’S SHIT.

5. The characterization was so off putting and almost everyone was a shell of what they once were. Hugest offender was Lance obviously, how was he reduced to just being worried about Allura all the time and not being able to be proactive??? What sorta bugs me is that it was only Keith comforting Lance the whole time, and not even Allura could provide him ANY bit of comfort. Lance resorted almost 90% of his dialogue about Allura and his insecurities about being with her were never addressed directly to her face. For a VLD romance, you sure loved to make Klance moments look so beautiful while making your main romance look really sad and tired everytime they’re together.

Not to take away value from the Klance sunset scene (because that scene was so beautiful), but if you had Allura say similar words to Lance, you could have written SUCH a better and more believable romance between them. This all felt so one-sided to me. I was all for some cute Allurance. Instead, you leave Lance at this epilogue where he isn’t who he was and it’s because of Allura. You give Lance the girl he loves and SHE DIES? What kind of slowburn romance were you aiming for VLD? They were done sO DIRTY. I fondly shipped Allurance from s3-s5, but they were like destroyed this season. Nothing about this season indicated this was a slowburn romance from the beginning. THIS WASN’T EVEN ENDGAME. And when Allura is saying goodbye to each Paladin, she says something thoughtful about who they are, but just Lance is like i love you and gives him marks to remind him FOREVER of his loss. say what now?

6. Too many characters??? VLD decided to make s8 the season where everyone has to be mentioned once or twice, but it really showed that they didn’t know how to handle their characters and couldn’t focus on developing the bonds of the Paladins even more. What felt super ironic to me was that the team reallyyyy only looked a family to me when Allura made her decision to sacrifice herself and after she died. Like we haven’t seen all of them interact like this in so long, maybe like s2? 

7. Don’t even get me started with that half ass wedding. Shiro deserved so much better and he was not the type of person to “leave the battle behind.” That wedding was a cheap attempt at damage control and it GREATLY backfired.

Well these are my main criticisms; there were so many more, but these were the main ones. I only will think of Voltron fondly from s1-s6 and s7 and 8 can rot in hell. Those were AWFUL seasons and honestly destroyed my perception of this show, but I will do my best to fondly see the series for what it should have been.

#voltron: legendary defender #voltron #allura #lotor #klance #honerva

[amwritingmeta]

S13: Cas and Severing the Ties to Heaven

For the longest time - even in one of my brief first impression comments on 13x13 - I’ve considered Cas’ grace as more than just a tie to duty first, I’ve considered it an actual emotional blocker, which, to me, has always meant that Cas doesn’t experience sexual desire because those urges have been entirely repressed (subconsciously pushed down) due to his grace. He doesn’t feel sexual desire, or when he does, it confuses and upsets him to such a degree - because he is all about duty first - that his mind can’t make sense of it, right? Wrong. 

I do believe I’ve been wrong. And I’m rather happy to jump into the camp who believe Cas absolutely and consciously desires Dean, but has suppressed it (consciously pushed the desire down) because of his sense of duty and - as given to us in 12x10 - the Sacred Oath.

Here’s why I’m jumping camp –>

We got this moment in 13x13 that left me flummoxed because it was so overtly about desire, the dialogue is even practically stating the lingering look Cas is giving Dean is all about desire, with Dean’s lead-in of “We’re boned” and Cas delivering this beauty:

I mean… look at his face, right? (not to mention the fact that he uses the word epically) Sam’s reaction is golden. Like, you’d think maybe Sam is reacting to the fact that Dean’s comment is regarding Lucifer gaining power and Cas is agreeing that yes, if Lucifer succeeds, they’re boned, and this scares Sam, whose fear of Lucifer has been well-established as recently as 13x12. 

But… he doesn’t look scared; he looks awkward. And it’s enhanced when Dean’s reaction is this:

It’s like that word lands, then Dean goes… wait, what did he just say? Then he notices Sam’s glance and bats that “Epically” away with that head tilt like, well, that’s Cas being Cas. While Sam glances away at the same time like, ok, you’re outright flirting in front of me now, that is fine, I’m not gonna make it weird for you guys, I’ll just be over here, please, for the love of sanity, move this along already.

Of course, this is all my interpretation! *pinches of salt* 

What I hang it on is how the above shot so clearly mirrors this from 12x23:

This moment, as someone brilliant wrote a long meta on who I now cannot for the life of me remember who it was, is all about the Sacred Oath. This is not my original reading of this moment (I didn’t linger on it so I barely had an original reading of my own), but it’s finally sunk in - thank you other meta writer!! please give a wave and I’ll link your meta - and I’m flying brightly coloured flags of agreement, because the 13x13 equivalent gets such a deep meaning from this mirroring that I can barely sit still.

Do you see what I’m getting at?

Cas came out of the Empty believing himself free of his ties to Heaven

Meaning Cas came out of the Empty not feeling duty bound to Heaven anymore, but to Jack and, more than that, to humanity

Okay, let me dig a little deeper and explain where I’m getting this from –>

The 12x23 moment reinforces what we were told of the Sacred Oath in 12x10 - that angels and humans are absolutely forbidden to intermingle - and we get textual insight into the fact that what has partially been holding Cas back in his progression is his persistent ties to his upbringing, his loyalty to the teachings of Heaven (and deep awareness of the judgment and probable death that comes with going against these teachings) (loyalty through brainwashing and propaganda) (yup yup yup) (look at S4 Cas and how he interacts with Anna to see exactly how far he’s come)

And all I can think of is this quote:

Hannah: You are an angel. Always and forever.

The moment in 12x23, and that glance at Dean as Lucifer delivers a taunt that has all to do with suppressing ones desires because of one’s fear of God’s judgment, underlines how Cas must let go of this tie to old ideals in order to finally know what he wants for himself, and I don’t mean just when it comes to Dean, but what he actually wants for himself, right? Right!

The moment in 13x13, that Epically and that lingering look he gives Dean tells us that he has done just that!

He’s let go of the ideals of Heaven, because love is more important, meaning he’s feeling his desire rather than suppressing it, meaning he’s not adhering to the Sacred Oath anymore.

*my head in pieces*

Remember, now, that Dean is Castiel’s catalyst for change.

No matter if you look at Dean purely as representative of Humanity, or whether you see, as so many of us peeps do, that there is a genuine and epic love story built between them, the fact is that Dean’s actions are imperative to Cas’ progression. 

Akobel: How can you know them and not love them?

And this is now Cas’ truth. Not Heavens’, but his truth, and it’s been his truth for a good long while. More than this love, though, he came back with his depression gone, wanting there to be a reason for this return other than, as he says in S7, the resurrection being nothing but a form of punishment. Is he really meant to simply be set on repeat, is he never to move forward or be able to have what he desires? 

Cleary, as the mirroring of 12x23 and 13x13 shows us, he’s not only done with repressing his own desire, but he also knows what reason for his return that would mean the most to him, but Dean is like this big huge obstacle of brohood and Cas still doesn’t know what Dean wants from him, what he actually means to Dean, or if he could mean anything more to him ever. 

Putting the love story aside, there is the TFW aspect, meaning Cas wants to feel embraced and accepted and truly a part of the family he’s chosen, but he’s continuously being made to feel like he’s left outside of the codependency brotherhood dynamic.

Which is, of course, why this moment in 13x14 is so detrimental:

Now, I’m not saying that Cas should need Dean’s approval or declaration of love in order to realise his true worth doesn’t lie with being the weapon. 

What I’m saying is that Cas needs to be included in that “we” in order to begin to gain a sense of self-esteem and belonging, which are important factors for him moving forward in his individual arc.

That said, this moment of yet another “we”, said by Dean to mean him and Sam only, is used as a necessity at this point, because it lays the foundation for Cas making a string of very bad choices that will, at least I believe they will, bring him right into a situation where he has to face what he’s becoming, what he’s turning himself into, and really, properly, finally question his choices, question himself, which means asking himself Who am I? and Who do I want to be?

He has to be brought to a point of no return, where he understands his true weakness, which was never human, because it’s not his humanity that needs to be cut out of him and, the way I see it, it never was.

Dean’s interaction with Cas in this episode informs a lot of the bad choices Cas makes, not because Dean still doesn’t seem to love Cas back, but because Cas’ core trait is to help, and Dean is saying that the reason he was brought back was because he was needed, because they needed him, and Cas’ brain immediately clicks into soldier mode because that’s how he’s interpreted their need of him in the past.

And the clicking into soldier mode is all to do with his grace, because for Cas his powers are the equivalent of how he can be useful.

And the grace blurs his ability to feel compassion and let that guide him because he snaps into default angel mode, only now he’s not serving Heaven anymore. 

I mean, can you see it?

He is serving man.

He has moved away from his indoctrination, from believing in Heaven’s teachings, because he has learned so much on his journey that consciously he can recognise where he wants to belong, but subconsciously, in the centre, where his grace sits, he’s still getting his wires crossed.

And this because of his default angel mode dictating what you do in the name of duty, which is underlined and agreed with by humanity when Dean says “Whatever it takes.” Cas thinking good, I know how to do this, I’m a soldier, I’ll make the decision a soldier would make and justify my actions by thinking they go alongside the need humanity has of me. 

He may no longer be acting out the orders of Heaven, but taking Dean’s words - the words of humanity, if looking at who he now serves - and twisting them around as a justification of any means necessary does not tell us Cas is alright. It tells us he is one hot mess.

Watching 13x14 I could hardly believe what I was seeing. I was squealing for most of that episode because not only was Meredith giving us Cas weaponising himself in the most horrific way we’ve ever seen him do it before, but because it went to show us exactly how he’s not meant to use his powers this way, he is not meant to perform tasks out of duty, he’s supposed to weigh the good and the bad and make an informed decision based in his inert humanity, and the grace will not let him.

The internal battle is underlined gorgeously through this straightforward narrative juxtaposition:

Cas, as he moves into a very bad choice, in dialogue separates himself from Sam and Dean, from everything he’s learned, while Jack, as he’s made yet another narratively good choice, declares the reason to be him embracing everything he’s learned, using Sam and Dean as role models the same way he has throughout the episode.

Cas is separating himself from his humanity while Jack is wholly embracing his.

Now, my first reading of the scene between Cas and Donatello was that Cas, by taking the trench coat off, removing one of his visual ties to Heaven. 

This action had me jumping on the bed (almost literally) because it told me he’s ready to move away from this tie, that he believes he’s acting apart from Heaven in what he’s about to do, that he subconsciously believes himself to be acting of his own accord in his choice to go completely against the, what I assumed, is the Heavenly decree of an angel never being allowed to harm a Prophet of the Lord, especially not in order to extract the word of God from his head.

My interpretation (and jumping) was all about how this is what Cas thinks, but the scene itself pushes for us to see how wrong Cas is in thinking his ties to Heaven aren’t what is poisoning his decision. 

To me, removing the coat was a means to show that the coat isn’t the real issue here –> it’s the glowing blue eyes that announces the true toxicity behind Cas’ decision, a decision informed by his grace and his angel default mode sense of whatever it takes in the name of duty.

Then a friend nudged me into a different angle that is awesomely more in line with what the juxtaposed dialogue from Jack is all about (and what the entire episode is very much announcing to us, at least how I read it):

This nudge was that Cas removes the coat to remove his actions from his ties to Humanity. 

Discussing this, it all just clicked into place so very beautifully.

To me, the scene now gets an even deeper connotation, because Cas knows, subconsciously, that his actions are wrong, but he’s doing what he believes he has to. It’s not unmotivated and he gives a list of his good reasons once Sam and Dean return from the hospital, but, of course, his choice is wholly wrong. 

He has done the wrong thing for the, to him, right reasons, while the narrative would dictate he is doing the wrong thing for the wrong reason for the first time since S10, when he worked with Heaven to round up fledgling fallen angels and force them back home against their newfound free will.

Why?

Because he’s letting his grace taint his choices, he’s kidding himself he’s in service of himself when he’s as muddled as ever, and acting out of fear is never the place to start. And Cas is afraid.

So, I betcha by golly these right reasons are going to turn around and bite him on the asscheek. 

Sidenote:

Looking at it from the angle of Cas’ coat not being representative of a visual tie to Heaven, but actually a tie to his own gained humanity, makes me rather happy, because I’ve never seen him giving the trench coat look up for good once human, it’s too much a part of who he is and I actually would rather he kept the look as a visual underlining of how he’s not severing every single affection for Heaven by choosing humanity. It’s not an all or nothing type situation, nor was it ever (there were always angels who still believed Castiel’s heart was in the right place).

I mean, to me, the suiting up and getting back in the game in 9x10 will forever denote that the trench and suit is indicative of a uniform, that it’s linked to Cas’ split sense of loyalty, and because of this it must needs come off when he if he chooses to become human, but I never wanted it burned or gone away for good. I mean, the look turns Dean on so for Cas to dress up in trench and suit for those FBI cases would do good things to Dean, if you know what I’m saying. 

(I know you know exactly what I’m saying)

Back to the scene between Cas and Donatello –>

The essence of this scene remains the same, though, whether the trench coat is a link to Heaven, to humanity, or to both:

Using your powers and turning Donatello into a vegetable is not how you do things for the greater good. 

Just as taking the cue from Dean (an external influence once again guiding Castiel the former warrior of Heaven now warrior of humanity), and twisting it around to justify any means to an end, is not what you base your decisions on. 

And taking it all upon yourself is not how you win, or how you survive, no matter how much you believe it will get everyone in the same room so you can work together.

Where is the better way, Cas? You didn’t even look for it! And the only way of finding it? Well, I would say it’s this::: open communication!! TFW working as equals and as a team.

GOD! We’ll get there, I know we will, and I am loving this emotional ride. I’m so happy for this push forward for Cas, it’s incredibly important and I’ve got another post almost done where I talk about that fear of his I mentioned. I’ll post it over the weekend.

For now, my loves, I’m off to watch 13x15!

#spn meta #my reading #spn 13x14 #cas #humanity #trench coat #human!cas #(adjacent) #severing ties to heaven #sacred oath

[tiny-little-bird]

Jon Choking Littlefinger

I'll start right away by saying that plotwise, if Jonsa isn't happening (it is happening in s8), Jon choking LF, didn't forward the story in any way, at all. 

The crypt scene could've easily not have had LF in it, it could've just been Jon looking at Ned, then heading out, mounting his horse, turning around, smiling and waving goodbye at Sansa, and it would've worked perfectly, no need for the choking scene, but they included it it anyway. Why?

It had already been made very clear to us that he'd die for her, kill for her in season 6. I mean he almost beat Ramsay to death, he fought a war for her. So yeah, there was no reason to show him being so aggressive towards someone connected to Sansa, again; towards someone who declared his love for her, to him.

Again, you gotta ask yourself, why then? 

That scene added nothing to Jon's plot/story in s7. Nothing, but the fact that he loves Sansa, fiercely.

D&D had him threaten LF, that if he touches Sansa (for a platonic relationship, the word harm, would've worked much better, but yeah... D&D settled for touch, more than once) he's going to kill him. Now, we all know Jon's threats were meaningless, they literally were empty threats, because LF was meant to be later executed by Sansa, Arya & Bran. So why add that choking scene then? If Jon wasn't even going to carry out the threat?

D&D for "some 😉" reason wanted to keep reminding us, even in season 7, just how much Jon loves Sansa, just how possessive and protective he is of her, because for “some 😉” reason it’s clearly very important to the plot.

"She's his sister, of course he's protective of her." Ok, fair enough, but the scene where he almost beats Ramsay to death, the scene where Sansa says "He'll keep me safe, I trust him.", the one where she tells him "Father couldn't protect me, neither can you, so stop trying." and he says "I'll stop trying to protect you when [...]", and the scene where he tells her "I'll never let him touch you again. I'll protect you, I promise.", were more than enough to get that message across, the viewers got the memo Jon cares deeply for Sansa in S6, no need to waste precious screentime, and money on it any further in S7, and yet, they did. That choking scene, only ended up making the goodbye scene between Jon and Sansa, more powerful, more intense, more meaningful; it gave it a romantic feel.

D&D kept showing us, that Jon is very protective towards Sansa, in a territorial way, almost in a “don't you dare, don’t you dare touch her, get near her, she's mine; mine to protect, mine to take care of, mine to love.” kind of way. I cannot see another reason why D&D would simply bother so much, waste so much screentime, to show us just how much he loves Sansa, and how much Sansa loves him, over and over again, if they're not building them up for romance in S7.

Again, exclude Jonsa, and that scene doesn't make any sense, exclude Jonsa, and that scene was absolutely pointless/useless. I highly doubt they'd waste money to pay the actors, to shoot a scene that brings absolutely nothing to the plot. No. They wouldn't. Same thing with the scenes with Tyrion “a sham marriage, unconsummated”, I mean, why add that? Why add a scene with Jon, where Sansa where her (not)bedding is being discussed? lol And Theon, “What you did for her, is the only reason I’m not killing you.”, which translates to, you betrayed my family, I should kill you right now, but you saved her, and she saved me in return, she means the world to me, she’s all I have left, all because you helped her, so I’ll let you live, I won’t kill you.

He’s miles away from her, and Sansa keeps being brought up, he’s miles away from her, and Sansa keeps bringing Jon up. D&D did not want us to forget about Sansa’s and Jon relationship, they didn't want us to forget their love for each other, even while being miles and miles apart from one another.

So yeah, the only purpose that choking scene served, was of enlightening (some of) the viewers at home (the majority are still clueless lol... my sweet summer children🙈), it served to make Littlefinger (and us) realize, Jon has strong feelings for Sansa, which later led Littlefinger to tease Sansa about a Jon/Dandelion alliance/marriage to see her reaction, to see if she feels the same way towards him, and what he got from her, was an incredulous "You think he wants to marry her?!". I mean look at her expression, how she raises her eyebrows, she’s literally like, “What? Jon wouldn't marry her/do that? Would he?”

I must say, Sansa also seems to be quite possessive of Jon, as well. Her reply to LF was odd, for a sister. It’s as if this whole time, she thought she’d never have to share him with anyone, that he’d always be hers, that she’d be the only one he gave his attention and love to. As if the thought, that Jon will marry someone at some point, never even crossed her mind, which would be, well, weird, to say the least, if she only had sisterly feelings towards him, which she clearly does not. 

This season we also got the “What about happy? Why aren't you happy? What do you want, that you do not have?” question from Littlefinger, a question which she doesn't answer, well, she does answer, but by avoiding the question, “At the moment, peace and quiet.”, which is like, at the moment what I’d very much like/want, is for you to stop moving your mouth and get tf out of my sight. lol I love sassy/savage Sansa 😆 Fact remains, she did not answer his question, so it’s left to the audience, to answer the question for her.

I’m pretty sure many of the viewers sitting at home, answered that question in their head. I watched this episode with a group of friends, there were 10 of us, they all thought (me included) that love is what’s missing in her life, that love is what she wants, what she still wants. Sansa, despite all that's happened to her, she still wants love, I mean, there's nothing else missing in her life, she’s home, surrounded by friends, she has Jon, and she’s safe, again, the only thing missing in her life, is love. 

I don’t even want to imagine what it must feel like for her, to have feelings for Jon, that she thinks she’s not supposed to have (bc you know, she doesn't know he’s her cousin, yet), to know they can never be. I think that, that, is what makes her unhappy, and I assume, very, very frustrated too, and I ssume, also pretty mad at the Gods, for being so cruel, for playing sick jokes on her, for denying her love, time and time again. 

Going back to LF, I think at this point, after getting that incredulous, somewhat shocked reply from her, after seeing just how loyal she is towards Jon, that nothing he could say nor do, would ever turn her against him, Littlefinger is pretty sure both Sansa and Jon have strong feelings for each other, and that, that's why he failed to come between them, why he failed and is continuing to fail to turn Sansa against him. 

Note: Him failing to get between Jon and Sansa, is also why he changed his strategy, and decided to try and pit Sansa and Arya against each other, which, let me tell you, had he succeeded, as a consequence/chain reaction, he would've managed to come between Jon and Sansa as well, because Jon would've never forgiven Sansa, if she had executed Arya. Had LF managed to manipulate Sansa into killing Arya, he would've isolated her from the other Starks, which was his plan/main goal all along.

"What are you talking about, Littlefinger doesn't think Jon and Sansa have feelings for each other, he thinks/knows they're brother and sister, he'd never think they could fall for each other." Yeah... emh, this is the same character who said this, in S2 (season 2 is where D&D started with all the foreshadowing btw): 

Jon's reaction was completely out of place, he could've simply threatened him, told him “you stay away from her/I’m warning you, to stay away from her, or else...” or something along those lines, but no, D&D had him in full snap mode, instead. 

I mean, nothing else LF said got a reaction out of him, nothing. D&D deliberately had him snap at the “I love Sansa. As I loved her mother.” He snarled, slammed him on the wall, full force, like, really violently, all the while growling, literally like a wolf (going back to the territorial behaviour), we've never heard him growl like that, never, and he almost chokes him to death, but somehow manages to stop himself from doing so.

Then he casually get’s out the crypts, and D&D proceed to give us that beautiful, heartbreaking/heartfelt goodbye. Jon turns, waves goodbye and sweetly, but sadly smiles at her, as if nothing happed just two minutes ago in the crypts lol Sansa waves back, and she also sweetly, but sadly smiles back at him. 😭💔

 And then? Littlefinger comes out the crypts, confused af by what just happened. I think LF here, is supposed to represent the audience. The audience, just like him, should go "wtf was that?/wtf just happened?/wth did he react like that/so violently?", and then go "oh, oooh, omg! OMG!!!", just like LF is going in his head. Then he looks up, only to see Sansa looking melancholically in Jon's direction, even if Jon is no longer in view now, and she looks so worried, sad and heartbroken.

You can literally see all the wheels turning in LF’s head, in the gif above.

Conclusion: If Jonsa wasn't bound to happen in S8, this scene would've never happened. Jon choking Littlefinger, was included because of Jonsa, it had no other purpose, but to further Jonsa, to show the viewers, through Jon’s actions, and LF’s reaction, that Jon’s behaviour and feelings towards Sansa are very intense/strong and “slightly” inappropriate.

#JonsaIsComing 💙

#jonsa #jon snow #sansa stark #gifs are mine #house stark #game of thrones #jon x sansa #sansa x jon #littlefinger #petyr baelish #lord baelish #winterfell #lady stark #jon #sansa #the red wolf #the white wolf #lady sansa #the queen in the north #the king in the north #sophie turner #kit harington #choking #choke #the lady of winterfell #my text post #she wolf #wolf #wolves #direwolves

[monooi]

Watched S7E6, now: predictions for S7E7 & S8

This is my first time posting my entire thoughts about what I think of the TV Show Game of Thrones (because I treat the show and the books as two separate things) and what directions it is going… I’m not sure if I should warn, but I’m a Jonsa shipper (and I will do my best to not let my shipper goggles get in the way). But if you don’t like it, don’t read it! And my love, don’t spread hate! My words are not meant to hurt you if you’re a Jonerys shipper, I’m a fan of this series just like you, I just have different opinions and that is OK! That is beautiful, that is what makes us unique! So refrain from hate, because in my blog hatred is answered with love! NO HATE SHALL ENTER THIS FORTRESS OF LOVE AND EMPATHY.

SO;

This season there is a major plot undergoing right under everyone’s nose, it’s easy to see, but it is also easy to ignore it if you’re watching the show with tendencious eyes. The juxtaposition between Cersei, Daenerys and Sansa’s temperament, their beliefs and their perceptions about how to exercise a position of power (because so far the only “true” Queen is Cersei Lannister).

UNDERNEATH THE READ MORE WE HAVE SPOILERS, INFORMATION FROM THE LEAKS AND SOME HEAVY PREDICTIONS, SO BEWARE:

As far as the leak goes, apparently the “round table” down in KL is happening (Danaerys Targaryen, Jon Snow, Euron Greyjoy, Tyrion Lannister, Jaime Lannister, Cercei Lannister and Brienne of Tarth will gather and as much as I would love to, I don’t think Cleganebowl is happening this season, we’ll see them fight, but not that soon, S8 will be worth it, cleganebowl I’m ready, ready like I’ve never been before). So, Cersei will be Cersei and they will all underestimate her (if Sansa was there, she’d see through her façade, just sayin’) and even though she will agree to help defeat the NK, once they all leave to the North, she will tell Jaime about her plans to actually not send reinforcements and let them all die before doing something. Jaime will abandon her and join the North). Euron’s also jumping off that boat once he learns that the WWs can’t swim and goes running back to the Iron Islands (I’m hoping that next season we’ll have this parallel plot where Theon will try to infiltrate the IL to get his sister back, she might die and it can all come down to Theon having to defeat his uncle and actually assume the title that he so much abbhores of King of The Iron Islands and the heir of House Greyjoy, most likely the last, if this happens it’s only happening on S8). In episode 7 we’ll have “epicincestuousboatsex” and afterwards we’ll also have a shot at Rhaegar and Lyanna’s secret wedding ceremony in Dorne (AND D&D THIS IS MY LAST WARNING: IF YOU DO NOT ADDRESS ELIA MARTELL, RAGE WILL BEFALL YOU). And this will be the end of S7. Also in S7E7 I think we’ll be seeing some apologizing on Arya’s part to Sansa and also according to the leaks LF’s going to be killed. So Stark family will unite again, this time much stronger than before. I personally think that Brienne and Arya will become Sansa’s personal bodyguards and who knows, maybe part of her Queensguard (if Jon ends up abandoning the North or giving up his claim, but we’ll talk about that later in the post).

S8 will begin with everyone gathering in Winterfell, just like in season 1 (oh, look at the irony) and we’ll first have two, maybe three confrontations: Jon’s parentage and Danaery’s character put through question. D&D have passed two opportunities of this knowledge making itself shine in the light: first one) Jorah did not mention that the person who saved him was called Samwell Tarly who belonged to the Nights Watch, that could’ve happened right after Jon mentioned Jeor, why is that? right? second one) Archmaester Marwyn had the opportunity to mention that Sam’s father and brother were burned by the Targaryen girl, but he didn’t, because he didn’t have the heart to deliver such message. That can only lead to one thing: this will all come to light in a very much expected meeting in Winterfell, and It’ll come down all at once. “They’ll see you for what you are” said Jon Snow to Danaerys on a boat back to the North and so they shall, just not like he is seeing whilst projecting his savior and Queen. The third one is Bran x Jaime meeting and the truth coming out (of her well to shame mankind and Jaime Lannister, this would be a nice scene for him to swear allegiance to house Stark forever and vowing to protect the Stark children together with Brienne). All of this might be interrupted or put aside because of the arrival of the WWs and their Ice Dragon. They will all fight alongside, they still all have a common enemy: the dead and the living will win the war, we’ll have many casualties and the fact that Jon bent the knee will not come to light just yet. Even if Jon is smitten, he knows that the people in the North will not accept a Targaryen Queen, not even him when his true parentage is revealed (so I’m not sure if the “common folk” and secondary lords will know about this fact until after the Winter War). When the Winter War ends Cersei will be seen as a traitor and she will be sentenced to death by all, I think Jaime will call it upon him to do the duty and the Hound might accompany him on this one, and he will take the Mountain CLEGANEBOWL AT LAST as Jaime takes Cersei’s life. If this is public or behind curtains, I don’t know. But I’m 90% sure that Jaime will kill Cersei. Daenerys will call upon Jon’s word about him kneeling, Jon’s parentage (if not public) will become public.

(Speaking a little about Cleganebowl, I think that Sandor will win against his brother Gregor and he will be spared of being killed by Arya with Sansa’s intervention, I really didn’t want to bring the books up in this post, regarding the altered memory that Sansa has of Sandor kissing her, so I’m just going to point out that he saved her before, so she will save him this time, I also believe that if Sandor survives everything, he will serve Sansa).

The Northern Lords will not support Daenerys Targaryen’s claim to the throne, I repeat, the Northern Lords will not support a Targaryen’s claim to the throne, nor will they give up their Independent Kingdom of the North, they don’t want a southron ruler anymore, they don’t want a Targaryen ruler anymore, they are different, their politics are different, their beliefs are different, THEY WANT AN INDEPENDENT NORTH WITH THEIR TRUE KING/QUEEN WHOSE NAME IS STARK. “The North Remembers” is something so often repeated that I really doubt the opposite.

Like I said in my post at /r/freefolk, we’ve been so focused on projecting either Ned or Rhaegar in Jon’s character, but what if he’s more like Lyanna than we think? “Everything that happens will be something that you’ve seen before.” said Petyr Baelish, what if it comes down to Jon having to make the same choice as Lyanna? But this time, the right choice is not by running away with a Targaryen Queen, it is standing beside his family and doing his duty as a Stark (he is 50% Stark and he did grow up there) and as King in the North. I think that there is a possibility that after all these wrong choices and especially because Jon is the kind of person he is, he could abdicate from the Northern throne, declare Sansa Stark as his Queen and fight her war. I like how a war between Queen Daenerys and Queen Sansa (fire in one side and ice in the other, just like the Winter War, but this time we’ll be rooting, at least I know that I will, for ice and not fire) sounds poetic. Especially with Jon who is a son of ice and fire in midst of that.

Danaerys will be furious and I think this is the point where we’ll get Targbowl and Dany will be proven The Princess That Was Promised (since thanks to her the living won the war against the dead), I mean her figure is extremely Messianic on her own and Jon will become Azor Ahai once he slays her. (  I’ve always loved the theory that Jaime is Azor Ahai, but I’ve started considering otherwise. Jon might or might not die in this confrontation, but I have my suspicions that he’ll die once more, only to be brought back by Melissandre who’ll die, so this will be his last life. I do think that the dragons will not harm Jon, so he’ll be the only person capable of killing Daenerys. We’ll have more casualties and treasons, I think this is the time for Varys to shine and I also strongly believe that Tyrion will change sides. Once they all get to Winterfell and he observes the difference between Sansa, Cersei and Daenerys himself, he is the only character to have been close to all three of them and I think that this is something major.

We’ll have a question then, about who will sit on the Iron Throne and I see some possibilities: Jon will have proven himself as King in the North, but with Daenery’s demise as well as Cersei, that leaves the Iron Throne empty. I don’t think either Jon or Sansa want to take that chair, nor live down south, so I think that Tyrion might end up with that position and the North an independent kingdom. If Sansa is Queen in the North, I still think that Jon would want no claim to the throne and it would end up with Tyrion anyway. I would love to see him with Varys as his hand, but I’m p-r-e-t-t-y sure Vary’s will die next season.

I can see Sansa and Jon getting married, especially to appease the Northern lords. Now I am a shipper and as you can see I have avoided speaking about Jon’s feelings regarding Sansa throughout the post, but I’ve always been the kind of person to leave the best to the end. My perception is that Jon had some conflicting feelings regarding Sansa and we saw that developing in S6 and it was put on hold this S7, Jon is very honorable and whatever it is that he felt was never explored by himself because he always saw Sansa as a sister and vice-versa (I really believe that the same happened in her case). It will be beautiful to see their interactions in midst of everything and Jon perceiving Sansa in this new light, as his cousin.

I’m not sure who will actually die aside from Varys, Melissandre, Daenerys and Cersei. But I think I’ll be surprised and it will indeed be bittersweet and satisfying at the same time (D&D did mention that it would be). So what do you guys think? I would love to hear opinions and critiques, I love to see through different perceptions and read different arguments, or a different light in the same argument. I also wanted to point out that GRRM has said that the downfall of House Targaryen would be their incest, if Jon and Daenerys got married and his magical seed flowed through her and she got magically pregnant it would make him quite contradictory and I strongly believe that’s not the case, so there’s no need trying to convince me otherwise, tho if you try I will answer it, because it’s always okay to discuss! Just saying that you won’t change my mind.

Jonsa is endgame guys.

And even if by some chance it isn’t (and both Daenerys and Jon dies), SANSA IS ENDGAME, STARKS ARE ENDGAME!

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