rewatching mass in time of war and the whole shiv-kendall interaction where they're arguing over whether she knew about cruises and she's like i never got in the pool with any of those creeps and he's like yeah because dad let a gang of creeps run cruises and she's like no kendall because i was fifteen is just so. like interesting to me. it feels like one of very few direct, in-your-face reminders that shiv was both the only girl with three brothers but it wasn't just her brothers, she was a girl SURROUNDED by mainly men for most of her girlhood. and i think for all of kendall's posturing in that scene and his maybe-partly-authentic interest in dismantling the sexist abuse in waystar he has probably not considered that his only sister had an entirely different set of experiences considering he thinks a fifteen year old girl not getting in the pool with a bunch of grown men must mean she knew that those men were involved in large-scale sex crimes,,, and like whether she or any of them knew or not as children is a different conversation but i just think that scene is interesting from the perspective of like. we hear so little about their childhoods and it feels like a glimpse into the isolation of a girlhood without a present mother or sisters or anyone to guide you or contextualize your experiences. materially you have everything you could ever want but still you are profoundly alone
'I don't work here.' So don't ask me to do shit. She doesn't have one of those little badges you have to swipe on the way into the building, either, but it hasn't stopped her from helping herself to coffee and donuts.
very very new to your blog, do you mind me asking for a quick guide to your tags and what they refer to? hope you have a great day!!
yes my silly tagging system. i tried just using characters' names for like a week when i made this blog but it was useless because i could never remember where i'd put any post that wasn't just a single-character post. anyway:
it's a closed loop system -- bodily fluids / humours, piss motif; purgation & catharsis
if i get the shits we're fucked -- bathroom motif; sanitation, repression, & society
blood sacrifice -- catholicism & other roy anachronisms; metaphorical vampirism & gothicism; capitalism & capitalist subjectivity; general family politics; most stewyposting
so i realize it's january 2024 and this show ended 800 years ago but. who else up wondering if shiv liked the nickname shiv when her family first started calling her it. when she was a kid. if she knew her name meant makeshift weapon used to maim or kill. did she always know because they joked about it. did she learn its meaning and be not sure. did she eventually grow to accept it. did she grow to mold herself around her sharp edges because that's her identity it is literally her name. shiv. idk
shivposting again to say i lovedddd the little marcia interaction she had at logan's internment. so much of shiv's whole deal with logan, and caroline as well, has been about shiv's relationship to them and therefore about them as they exist in relation to shiv. dad. mom. the family you know? and for shiv there has always been the sense that when times get tough the family can close ranks against quite literally anyone else, because ultimately the roy family are a unit together. they are her—the—world. the permanent structures on her playground. obviously that has been complicated by several happenings (logan and caroline going around them, kendall and roman scheming behind her back) but shiv's eulogy is what started to open this up in terms of logan, stating that he was hard on her, hard on women, hard on other women too. then to ask karl & frank how bad was he? for an objective POV as to how logan existed in the world around them, which i think is a question that loops back to her as she is losing her brothers to this fight for the top spot, yknow, that as the safety net of logan and sisterhood and daughterhood gets drawn away how will she exist in this new paradigm? as other people become her allies and safe places, now that their opinions on her will actually matter for once, what will she be? not widely liked, she tells matsson of herself.
but marcia! the marcia moment! he broke my heart. he broke yours too. it's that camaraderie from someone shiv never saw as an equal. one of logan's many women, been done, boring. but marcia mattered enough that logan could hurt her. hurt her in the way he hurt shiv. if the love is what makes the hurt real, remembering that shiv saying she never loved tom or never should've loved tom is how shiv comforts herself through the hurt they cause each other, then logan loved marcia enough to hurt her—
an affirmation that shiv, too, can hurt other people. love other people. the insulation of her family doesn't protect shiv not will it protect anyone from her. logan is dead and play time is over.