venus, planet of love, was destroyed by global warming. did it’s people want too much, too? did it’s people want too much?
recently on tiktok, i’ve seen a lot of posts associating debbie gallagher with a quote from mitski’s “nobody” saying, “venus, planet of love, was destroyed by global warming”. everytime i see something like this i’m always intrigued because nobody is a song i associate with debbie, but what people say while quoting that part isn’t always something i agree with. i’ve seen people say that debbie was ruined, and i don’t know how much of that is true, i also think that the whole quote (“did it’s people want too much, too?”) fits her even more, so here’s my explanation.
the song nobody is basically just about complete loneliness and having nobody, which isn’t too surprising. but loneliness is a very common theme in debbie gallagher’s storyline, in fact, it is her storyline. every decision she makes is in some way or another based solely on her fear of abandonment/being alone. one of the other big parts of her storyline is becoming a teen mom, why did she do that? because she was lonely and afraid.
in the song nobody, the second verse is, as i said, “venus, planet of love, was destroyed by global warming. did it’s people want too much, too? did it’s people want too much?”. and yeah, that lyric is totally associated with debbie gallagher. in this scenario, debbie is venus, the planet of love, and frank and monica are global warming. everyone else are the people on venus. younger debbie is supposed to be this “planet of love”, she is seen as sweet and loving and everyone loves her. she always has been very loving, too loving, and that’s what ends up destroying her. her mother leaves her, and even if when she sees her again she pushes her away, she still ends up forgiving her. monica ends up leaving twice, and both times debbie just stood by, watching her drive off. in the third season, right after the second time monica leaves, she is a little different. but in the first two episodes, she is still this planet of love. she waits for frank to come back after he’s been gone for months on end; she counts each day without him and basically prays, and when he returns, she’s still the only one who cares. she’s always been the only one to care that much when frank is gone. when frank is missing in the first season, she is the most distraught and the happiest to see him, and when he gets sober, she tells lip she knows it won’t last but she still wants to enjoy it. she’s always known her father is destructive, but she still loves him. the original lyric is referring to venus being like earth, and people wanting too much, on our planet, people do so much to destroy the earth, and a lot of us do these things even though we know it’s destroying the earth because it’s kind of habit. debbie is like that. she knows forgiving monica will hurt her, she knows frank will drink, yet she still loves them- it’s her form of self sabotage. and so, she gives frank a bed, and even though she loves him and helps him, he slaps her, then his friends destroy her room, and she destroys the project she had asked him to help her on, calling it a “piece of shit”. and debbie snaps, she is “destroyed”. she takes a pillowcase full of bars of soap and she starts screaming and hitting frank and everyone just watches; they all watch the destruction in awe because debbie was always so loving and now she’s just… well, she’s the debbie we end up knowing. hurt. people on tikok usually leave out, “did it’s people want too much, too?”, but it’s really the most important part. people always expected forgiveness and love from her, they never expected her to act on the trauma she endured, so when she inevitably becomes hurt and traumatized, people lose interest. they view her as “changed” and “ruined” when she really just ended up exactly like she was going to anyways. there was no avoiding the “new debbie” because enduring what she endured, it’s surprising she didn’t end up worse.
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wait before i go to sleep. the first time i listened to folie and what a catch specifically i was like woah blown away and then when the ‘i will never end up like him’ line came on in what a catch i was like…..why does patrick suddenly sound bad lol. i didnt realize until later it was elvis costello singing.
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ok so both of us are debbie gallagher and lana del rey stans, and we have both agreed that debbie would listen to lana del rey, so what do you think her favorite album is? i have a few candidates but i need to know your opinion
born to die and ultraviolence (plus aka and paradise.) call me a local but i think she would really feel connected to born to die. and just one google search born to die is explained as being focused on "Love, sex, and drugs" (more detailed is "The lyrics are about love, sex, and drugs, and feature prominent references to 1950s and 1960s Americana.")
remind you of somebody? and "this is what makes us girls" ugh is so debbie (and mandy and fi. very off topic but carmen reminds me alot of fiona.)
she also would love dark paradise and off to the races. dark paradise just being depressing as fuck and off to the races being abt older guys. in my head i can connect so many lyrics throughout the album to debbie. and in general she seems like the type to be obsessed with btd.
annddd paradise!! i think she really would be in love with the song ride. especially the monologue. i made a post abt this before (debbie and ride) but i think that song is smth she would connect with. paradise is very Americana plus yolo and i think that is smth debbie would be obsessed with. oh yeah she would also deff be obsessed with cola.
she would also love yayo. i would say every song on that album could somehow be linked to debs (BESIDES burning desire. that one is very gallavich.)
ultraviolenccee do i need to explian? i will anyway. The album encompasses quite a bit. so it’s difficult to pinpoint a single subject, but she covers abuse, adoration, and addiction. remind you of someone?
Ultraviolence is about the experience of being in love with being in pain. Almost even track on the record is Lana really explaining that she is fundamentally in love with suffering.
debbie does a whole lot of self sabotaging. a lot of it comes from the fact she craves to be loved and have a proper family who loves her as much as she loves them.
i think she would be in love with every song on that album but her favs would be
shades of cool
sad girl
pretty when you cry
fucked my way up to the top
andddd the other woman.
i dont think she would of listened to all of her albums but i do think she would also love blue banisters! i would of liked to talk abt aka and bb but my energy is running out lol.
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