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1) do you think liam is supposed to be as unlikable as he is in s1? they definitely try to push for sympathy in later seasons but i couldn't really figure out if he's insufferable to be ~relatable~ or if he's just designed to make me hate him. 2) rate lauren's love interests from terrible to even more terrible. 3) which plotline(s) would you most like to scrap if given a chance to rework the show?

All great questions! Thanks!

1) This question has mystified me since the show first aired. Despite Liam’s completely unsympathetic behavior, we get numerous key shots from his POV early in season 1. For instance, when he is trying to have sex with Karma in the car during Homecoming in 1x01, and Karma decides she’s no longer into it and leaves, we cut to Liam checking his breath. This is meant to humanize him. It’s odd, because moments ago he said he’s wanted to have sex with a lesbian for as long as he can remember--a transparently rape-culture-y statement that is never fully interrogated. It’s supposed to be a somewhat relatable joke when we see that Liam thought his breath was to blame and not the creepiness of the sentiment he just expressed. The best I can say is that this was the gay male writers’ best attempt to craft a believable teenage boy, and they simply could not conceive of one who was not creepily misogynistic from the start. Though Liam’s worldview should horrify any women watching, I guess we’re supposed to believe that the writers did not understand just how damaging his behavior really is, and downplayed it accordingly.

Interestingly, Liam is told off for his actions a few times throughout the show, but never for his fetishization of Karma. For instance, in 2x02, Liam throws a bit of a temper tantrum when he learns that Shane knew Amy and Karma were faking and never spoke up. Shane scolds Liam for this overreaction and points out that he’s being myopic and can’t really understand what it’s like for a gay kid who’s just coming out. This is fair game: like every other character on the show, Liam should be learning from his mistakes. So if the writers really wanted to create a sympathetic character arc for a young man like this, they really needed to have someone--probably Lauren, as a girl removed from the situation--explain to him how violent and degrading it is that he’s so hung up on the fantasy of “converting” a woman to desiring him. But they never do, so I guess they just never meant for him to be that bad.

2) God, this is so hard because Liam’s love interests are all so bad. Tommy is an idiot and ignorant about intersex people, but at least he’s Erick Lopez and he’s cute. Liam is a piece of shit, but at least while dating Lauren he’s subjected to the kind of bullying he fully deserves. Theo/Anthony is a cop, and specifically a narc, and worst of all he’s a 20-year-old dating a high school sophomore. So I’m gonna have to go (best to worst) Tommy-->Liam-->Theo/Anthony. Wish I could include Amy in this love interest ranking but the show wasn’t galaxy brain enough :(

3) Oh this is really fun and I wrote a horrifying amount omfg.

First things first, we have to go through the show with a fine-toothed comb and clean up the nastiness toward bi people. Shane makes a lot of biphobic comments that we can just throw away. And Karma’s mom, who currently we learn is bisexual at the end of season two, instead can describe herself as bisexual in season one in a cringey moment when she’s trying to bond with Karma. In a touch of realism, everyone assumes Amy and Karma are “queer” rather than “lesbians” (gotta update this with the times) which explains no one sees any issue with Karma, a queer girl, having a thing for Liam, a guy. I don’t see a way to rehabilitate Liam this way, though, so Liam still fetishizes Karma as a “lesbian,” even though she never uses that word and intentionally keeps it vague.

The character of Reagan is thrown out. Instead, Amy’s first girlfriend is more like that girl Jasmine, whom she met on the dating app Syzzr in season one. Jasmine is a girl from another high school in Austin who also just got over a crush on a best friend. She’s charismatic and mature and does a lot of the initiating in the relationship with Amy, prodding her to assert herself with her mom and embrace feminism more in “Zen and the Art of Pageantry” (we’ll keep that storyline mostly unchanged). Notably absent from her arc is a nastiness toward bi girls. Instead, she’s generous and goal-oriented. She helps Amy establish an identity outside of Karma, but bristles at times when Amy regresses. However, it’s crucial that she’s not jealous of Amy’s bond with Karma; she just wants Amy to be older and wiser than she really is. This highlights the flaw in their relationship: that Amy is still struggling with her self-identity (not her sexual identity!!) and feels like she is always letting her girlfriend down. Amy is the one who decides to break up and she does it because she doesn’t want to feel like a disappointment. They stay in touch, though, and Jasmine/Reagan remains a mentor for Amy throughout the show.

For instance, when Amy finds herself unattracted to Felix (more on him later), Amy goes to Jasmine/Reagan about it, as well as Shane. She can’t figure out why she sometimes feels drawn toward guys even though she knows she doesn’t really like them. Shane thinks Amy is probably bi or pan. Jasmine/Reagan introduces some split attraction model that gives Amy an instant headache. Amy doesn’t think either of those are right. It’s actually a conversation with Lauren and Farrah that helps clarify things for her. Through chatting with her mom and Lauren, Amy is reminded that girls are pretty much trained from birth that their job is to impress and appeal to boys. She realizes there’s a good chance she’s been acting on inertia (this is the way the show simplifies comp het). She settles it once and for all when she goes out and meets a group of other lesbians -- maybe a support group or like an organized social club meetup kind of thing. In the company of these cool and inspiring other women, she realizes that she feels really comfortable with the label “lesbian” after all. Maybe MTV even lets her say the word dyke :)

The episode where the kids have to label themselves, however, is thrown firmly in the trash.

Also in the trash: Amy and Liam sleeping together. Garbage. I think they get angry-drunk together instead and talk about Karma and maybe the tension for season 2a is that they did something more external to hurt her that night, like out her as straight to her parents.

Theo/Anthony is not a cop and there is no mystery surrounding his character. Instead, he’s like a pick-up artist type and plays intentional mind games like negging that Lauren sees through after a while. She dumps him and Shane and Amy help her get revenge on him. At that point, he is fully gone and does not come back.

Duke is also a respectable age. Not much else to do there.

And then the Karmy of it all! We need to see more signs from Karma’s perspective starting in season 2b (after the arrest) that Karma has a real crush on Amy that she’s ignoring. The character of Felix helps with this. He and Amy still go to prom together but Amy concludes that it doesn’t feel right and nothing more happens between them. However, on prom night, Karma finds herself feeling more than just empathy for Felix’s situation - she feels jealous of someone on that date. With Amy’s reluctant blessing, Karma asks Felix out and they start to date, but she finds herself annoyed by his quirks and has no interest in having sex with him. Felix winds up asking Amy what the deal is with Karma and sex. In the meantime, Karma catches herself having the occasional dream about Amy. Amy, who is with Sabrina at this point (I haven’t decided yet if I want to rewrite the Sabrina stuff since I haven’t rewatched s3 yet so let’s go with no for now), is mostly happy to see Karma and Felix together... but when she hears that Karma isn’t sleeping with him, she can’t help but feel hope that whatever motivated Karma to kiss her in the pool that night in 2b might be the reason she doesn’t want to commit to Felix. Karma doesn’t want to admit her confusion to Amy or Shane so has no one to talk to about her feelings except Liam, and miracle of miracles, he is the one who actually nudges her to consider that maybe she’s had a thing for Amy for a while now. She denies that that could be possible, but she’s just not happy with Felix, and at the end of season 3, she tearfully breaks up with him. When Amy comes over to comfort her, we see Amy through Karma’s eyes in a new way. Karma finally has her moment of clarity. End s3.

In season 4, Karma sort of awkwardly tries to court Amy without being obvious about what she’s doing, which has the odd impact of making Amy feel hurt -- is Karma trying to bait her into having feelings again? This results in a fight, and during the fight Karma admits the truth -- that she’s having feelings for Amy and didn’t know how to express them without potentially hurting Amy because of their past. Amy is taken aback, and she’s still with Sabrina, so she does the old “I have to go” routine. But then she talks to either Lauren or Shane or both about what just happened and they prompt her to do a romantic about-face. She races back to Karma and they have a really cinematic first real kiss. The rest of the season that follows is the two of them as girlfriends, trying to navigate being their real selves and also their romantic selves at the same time. They do a lot of cliche romantic things and annoy the crap out of all their friends. They’re also really really happy. In the series finale, Amy and Karma and Lauren and Shane and Shane’s boyfriend all go to Pride or Queer Liberation March or whatever they call it in Austin. Also Liam leaves town for military school :)

#faking it #wow. i have a serious emotional problem

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Because they aren’t racist, sexist arseholes? “ as feminism - the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of equality of the sexes “ Bullshit. That’s like saying “Nazism is the perfect blend of socialism and nationalism”. It’s taking the propaganda as if it was fact, and ignoring the clearly female supremacist agenda. You do not demand that women have it better than men, then get to hide behind egalitarianism when there’s push-back. “ Emma Watson, who launched an equality campaign with the United Nations “ Bullshit. She said Feminism freed men to express their feelings, whilst slurping from her male tears mug. Equality would be a gigantic step DOWN for feminists. “ A 2018 YouGov poll found that 34% of women in the UK said "yes" when asked whether they were a feminist, up from 27% in 2013. “ No mention of the male-scum, of course, because who cares what they think. “No uterus, no opinion”, after all. But it’s astonishingly low, considering how tightly feminists control the education systems. Any non-feminist teacher would be in serious shit if they were found out. Feminist education extends all the way from childhood to university. The female only places at universities - as a part of ‘equality’ - were supposed to encourage them to be engineers and scientists, but instead they pick gender studies, which teaches them to hate men, hate white people, and hate the British.

Good job, white british feminists! You indoctrinate children into wanting to murder you. I am sure that will end well.

I’m surprised feminists aren’t handing out “baby’s first bomb” at day-care centres. “ The term feminist is less likely to appeal to working-class women, polls suggest. “ Funny that. It’s almost as if the people who suffer as a result of the mass immigration policies, of the open border policies, of the criminalisation policies, tend not to be Feminists. Remember Emma Watson? She demanded that the men of the UK be ‘corrected’. Feminists criminalised any approach by a male to a female. What did Emma do? Whined that men in the UK wouldn’t approach her any more, and went to the US, and got laid in a hurry. It’s nice to be rich, innit? But if you are poor, and the bombs are going off in the name of the most Feminist religion in your neighbourhood, it’s difficult to embrace the bullet wounds and learn to love Big Sister. Women at the bottom love their men, and know they need them. They can’t fly off to another country like Emma. And if their son is accused of harassment because he asked a feminist what the time was, they know damned well that they can’t afford the fancy lawyer to keep him out of gaol. “ curator Scarlett Curtis refers to the stereotype of feminists as not wearing make-up, or shaving their legs or liking boys. “ It’s not a stereotype. Feminists have said this since the 1960s. Feminists constantly scream about their hatred for men and boys, and almost half the feminist posts I see will be about their hatred for whites, or men, or both. As for looking nice for men, feminists invented the term “objectification” to cover that they think of that concept.

Andrea Dworkin helped establish gender studies courses world-wide. Do you think she wanted to look nice for men?

Gaaah! My eyes! Where is the bleach?!!!

The Future is Female is a reference to the total extermination of men and boys. Feminists have - again - talked about it since the 1960s, and it is the most popular feminist saying world-wide. The second most popular?

Oh right - women do not need men. So they have no reason to ever look good for them. Tell me again how it’s just some weird misconception that FEMINISTS HATE MEN? “ In the 1920s, feminists were often called spinsters “ BULLSHIT. UNLESS THEY WERE TIME-TRAVELLERS, THERE WERE NO FEMINISTS IN THE 1920s. An unmarried man was a bachelor, a woman was a spinster. A lot of unmarried women wanted to get married; they weren’t single because they hated fucking men! Has the author of this piece ever walked into the outside world? “ I found associations of the term "feminism" with man-hating, lesbianism or lack of femininity was a key factor in rejections of the label "feminist" “ A major part of feminism is not just man-hating, which as we saw is just standard issue, but also political lesbianism, and spitting on straight women is par for the course. Even bisexual women are constantly admonished for sleeping with the enemy. As for rejecting femininity,

Even if we hadn’t heard feminists claim that it is the oppression of Patriarchy, we can see with our own eyes that feminists everywhere despise it, just as they despise equality, and despise us. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/jul/18/armpits-4-august-body-hair-feminist Oh right - the Guardian is suddenly not Feminist? For the time it is inconvenient, no doubt!

The most famous feminists are full of hate, and despise femininity.

Ironically, Big Red makes some attempt to be feminine, although she is a lesbian, from memory.

And is also one of the most infamous man-haters on the planet, sabotaging conferences on male suicide.

Her expressions of contempt for the dead became a meme.

“ 3) The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately ten percent of the human race.” What do you think about this statement? Mary Daly: I think it’s not a bad idea at all. If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males. People are afraid to say that kind of stuff anymore. WIE: Yes. I find myself now thinking that’s a bit shocking. MD: Well, it’s shocking that it would be shocking. “

How my mother's fanatical views tore us apart

By Rebecca Walker for MailOnline Updated: 22:18 AEDT, 23 May 2008

#feminism #antifeminism #intersectional feminism #intersectionality #defund the bbc #bbc uk #misandry #sexism #racism #genocide

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jugheads-and-burgers · 7 years

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Hit Me With Your Best Shot (Regie x Reader)

A/N: I know, I know. The scene where Regie and Archie fight is over used for imagines, but I decided to use the format anyways. I wanted to write it in a way to promote feminism. I also stopped using indent half way through because I switched from my computer to my phone, so sorry about that.

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Regie x Reader

Summary: Regie was doing what he always does, bullying people. Until he starts attacking your friends, that’s when you just had it and gave him your best shot.

Warnings: Sexism in the beginning, promoting a little bit of Feminism and fluff in the end

Word count: I never know

Authors Note: If you don’t want to read the part that they show in the episode skip the bold writing.

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Here we go again. As I sit here, in my comfy seat in the student lounge, I hear Regie trying to create trouble again.

“And Sheriff Keller’s grilling me.” I wonder why. I watched from afar not wanting to be part of the current discussion.

“Mantle the Magnificent.” He said in a smug smile. That’s the problem with boys like Regie, they’re so full of themselves. They know that they look handsome, and so they use it for their own good.

“Because I wanted Blossom dead, when he was the only good quarterback we had.” Archie walked in distracted with his phone, I mean every one is, they all had there phones out, addicted to the contraption that only gave them artificial happiness.

“Speaking of offensive tight ends, I should’ve sent the cops to you, Moose. Because heres another unsolved mystery. What were you and Kevin doing at the river?” I gazed over at Kevin, he was fidgeting constantly. I snapped my attention away from the discussion for a minute to look at Archie, who was having a hard time trying to get a snack. The machine isn’t in a good mood today, it won’t give anyone anything to eat. As I was about to get up to tell Archie about it, Regie started talking about Jughead, only raising more frustration in Archie.

“Isn’t it always a spooky, scrawny, pathetic internet troll too busy writing manifestos to get laid?” Jughead looked over to Archie, who was grabbing his money out of the machine, in frustration.

“Some smug, moody, serial-killer-fanboy freak. Like Jughead.” Everyone moved there eyes towards Jughead, who didn’t seem so pleased with the accusation.

“What was it like Suicide Squad? When you shot Jason.” Jug inhaled in, letting Regie to further more explain his stupid accusation.

“You didn’t do stuff to the body, did you? Like, after?” This raised some whispers inside the room. As always Jughead looked unaffected.

“It’s called necrophilia, Regie. Can you spell it?” That was the moment Regie sprung from his seat to beat up Jughead, but Archie pushed him away. Everyone stood up from their seat including me, I put my book a side.

“Shut the hell up Regie.”

“What do you care, Andrews?”

“Nothing. Just leave him alone.”

“Holy crap!” Round two.

“Did you and Donnie Darko kill him together? Was it some pervy blood-brother thing?” That was the last straw, I knew Archie was going to snap soon, so i stepped up, before it could happen.

“Oh my gosh, Regie. Don’t you ever know how to shut up! For once can you not pick on anyone, to make yourself feel better.“ Everyone silenced, waiting for the opponents next move. Archie gave me a head shake, as if to tell me off. Regie stepped closer to me, Archie blocking his body in front of mine, Jughead gazing at us with a worried eyes.

“Oh, come on Y/N. Archie. Are you guys serious, defending this freak show. His not worth it. But you know I am.” I made a gagging sound, he seems taken by this.

“As if! You see this is your problem. You think your so high and mighty, but you’re really not. You might have the muscles, but you have no brain, Mantle. So, BACK. OFF.”

“Or what?“ He pumped his chest out to feel bigger to me, you don’t scare me you big lump of stupidity.

“Are you going to scream at me and lecture me, or are you going to hit me like a little girl, come on, hit me with your best shot! It would probably feel like a pillow is bein-” Before he could finish, I punched him straight in the face, sending him for a nap on the floor. Oh, jeez! My knuckles! I hugged my hand close to my body, trying to endure the pain. My hand was bleeding badly. Archie approached me from behind.

“Tell me again Regie, how do I punch? Like a little girl? Next time don’t underestimate anyone because of their gender. You hear me?!”

“That’s enough Y/L/N. Right after you go to the nurse’s office you will come with me young lady, to discuss your consequences.” Weatherbee shouted at me.

I was suspended for a week after that, my parents were not so pleased, but when I told them it was because I was defending Jughead, who was being bullied, they weren’t as harsh. Jughead was more than grateful for my heroic act. Veronica and Betty praised me for it too.

“Who would’ve thought you had that in you!” Archie and the gang would update me on Regie everyday after school.

“Dude, I’m telling you. You broke something.” Kevin gossiped.

“You mean his nose?” Veronica joked.

“No. He seems softer, nicer if you must say.” Huh, who would’ve thought. Regie Mantle a softy. Ha! That’s the funniest thing I’ve heard my entire life time! I guess I’ll just have to see for myself when I come back to school.

I came back to school with people patting my back, saying good job. I honestly don’t know why they’re doing that, I just said what had to be said, and I punched him to show him not to look down on women, part of them are proud of me for standing up and representing the girls at my school and half of them are just congratulating for daring to punch Regie. As I walked in the hallway, there he was Regie Mantle with a bruised eye, it was as purple as my neon purple backpack back in fifth grade. He looked down at the floor as if he was ashamed. Huh, weird. Later that day as I was packing my stuff in my locker. The famous Asian jock stood beside me.

“Hello, Regie. How’s your eye?” I shut my locker and faced him.

“Uh, it’s fine. I… umm… just wanted to say I’m sorry for accusing your friend, Jughead of murder.“

“And?” I asked pressing for another apology.

“And for being sexist.” He finally met my eyes. I smiled and so did he.

“Hey, I’m sorry too.” I pointed at his eye.

“I didn’t mean too give you that.”

“I’ve got to say you’re good at punching, did you take classes or something?” I laughed at this, why is he being so sweet?

“How about this, I take you out for lunch or something, in a way to apologize.” He looked at me expectantly. I hesitated.

“This isn’t one of those bets you have with the football team, is it? To earn pointd for your “burn book"?” I made quotation marks with my fingers. He looked shocked.

“NO!” He said instantly. He laughed it off.

“I mean no. It might seem this way but I just really want to apologize, if you don’t want to go, I understand.” He rubbed the back of his neck shyly. Awwe, his so cute.

“Would seven be good?” He noded with a goofy smile. Oh Regie, who would’ve thought you were a softy.

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A/N: I hope you liked it, Remember Feedback is needed! Have a good day ☉ or night 🌛.

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‘Blood hasn’t even dried yet': Two journos spin shooting into feminist B.S.

New Post has been published on https://kidsviral.info/blood-hasnt-even-dried-yet-two-journos-spin-shooting-into-feminist-b-s/

‘Blood hasn’t even dried yet': Two journos spin shooting into feminist B.S.

http://twitter.com/#!/redsteeze/status/525748867758034944

Get ready for "obsessed with sex" "women as objects" "out of control teenage boys"

— S.M (@redsteeze) October 24, 2014

Did I say 12 minutes? I over guessed by about 9 https://t.co/FiVn1E3wcl

— S.M (@redsteeze) October 24, 2014

One of the details that emerged in the aftermath of today’s school shooting in Washington State was that Jaylen Fryberg, the alleged shooter, “was angry at a girl who would not date him, and that the girl was one of the people shot.” That was all Mother Jones’ Clara Jeffery needed to hear:

Do we honestly have to tell the boys we raise: It's not ok to kill a girl who turns you down. #YesAllWomen

— Clara Jeffery (@ClaraJeffery) October 24, 2014

Huh?

Uh. No. You don't have to do that. https://t.co/GVokX4JnNB

— Neal Dewing (@Neal_Dewing) October 24, 2014

Oh, but we do! Zerlina Maxwell says so:

this RT @ClaraJeffery: Do we honestly have to tell the boys we raise: It's not ok to kill a girl who turns you down. #YesAllWomen

— Zerlina Maxwell (@ZerlinaMaxwell) October 24, 2014

No, Zerlina. Not “this.” “This” is asinine.

OFFS @ZerlinaMaxwell @ClaraJeffery

— John Petruna (@jgpetruna) October 24, 2014

Here's more evidence that leftists are really just adults whose brains haven't reached maturity. https://t.co/NipiGNDEel

— RB (@RBPundit) October 24, 2014

@ClaraJeffery Stop. Just stop. Stupidest tweet of the day.

— Suze (@suze109) October 24, 2014

@ZerlinaMaxwell @ClaraJeffery Your parents just straight up poured paint into your baby bottles, didn't they?

— Eric (@JustEric) October 24, 2014

.@ZerlinaMaxwell @ClaraJeffery One teenager shoots people – blame all boys. Radical Islamist shoots up parliament – Lone wolf.

— S.M (@redsteeze) October 24, 2014

Let’s hear it for feminism!

.@ZerlinaMaxwell @ClaraJeffery Seriously. I'm SO sick of parents who tell their boys that it's ok to kill a girl who turns you down.

— jon gabriel (@exjon) October 24, 2014

@exjon @ZerlinaMaxwell @ClaraJeffery I know right? Is there a petition I can sign or something?

— Charly J. (@chuck_dizzle) October 24, 2014

@exjon @BigRMV @ZerlinaMaxwell @ClaraJeffery I tell my boys 1st thing; use manners, help others, DON'T kill girls!

— dan smats (@smats88) October 24, 2014

Dang! I knew there was something I forgot to tell my son while I was raising him. https://t.co/u7R2k1vtOZ

— MPeper (@MPeper) October 24, 2014

.@ZerlinaMaxwell @ClaraJeffery Boy did I get sick of hearing that growing up.

— Lenny Barber (@LennyOnDaBass) October 24, 2014

.@exjon My school gave us no instruction at all. It's a miracle I'm not in prison. @ZerlinaMaxwell @ClaraJeffery

— Charly J. (@chuck_dizzle) October 24, 2014

@RBPundit @ClaraJeffery Asked my 9 & 11 y/o boys if it's OK to kill a girl who dumps you. They think girls are gross, still said no. #logic

— Vader Herder (@raschknits) October 24, 2014

If only somebody had told Jeffrey Dahmer that you shouldn't murder and eat people @dad_of_jacob @RBPundit @ZerlinaMaxwell @ClaraJeffery

— Steve Klein (@SteveKlein62) October 24, 2014

It’s too bad Jeffery and Maxwell can’t stop worrying about killer boys long enough to show a little decency.

.@ZerlinaMaxwell @ClaraJeffery I know you might this unfathomable but this shooing isn't about you or your politics. Kids are dead #Vampires

— S.M (@redsteeze) October 24, 2014

@ZerlinaMaxwell @ClaraJeffery Gun control, sexism, the blood hasn't even dried yet you opportunistic jackals.

— Poo Picker (@poo_picker) October 24, 2014

Hey #YesAllWomen can you all take a damn breath and let people who are hurting, hurt? PLENTY of time for your hashtag. Good. Grief.

— C-Shellن (@Isla_78) October 24, 2014

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Photos, students’ tweets from scene of Marysville-Pilchuck High School shooting; person in handcuffs taken away; Update: Shooter reportedly dead; Update: Shooting suspect ID’d

After tragic shootings, does this striking reaction sum up the clear difference between Left and Right?

Read more: http://twitchy.com/2014/10/24/blood-hasnt-even-dried-yet-two-journos-spin-school-shooting-into-feminist-b-s/

#Clara Jeffery #school shooting #Zerlina Maxwell

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