#why do people ship incest?

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[moxley]

"i am a proshipper". "i am an anti". actually you are annoying

#tal.png #NOT A VAGUE ABOUT ANYONE I FOLLOW i was trawling the depths of tumblr and that's on ME #but i don't know why liking or not liking things is a personality trait but i think that's something to work on #like i think that's a character flaw #like for example. 'i don't like incest ships' is not a hot take that's totally reasonable. #but antis will take that idea and use it to harrass people #and proshippers will react to that idea and use it to harrass people #are you like not embarrassed to be doing this... don't you want to mind your own business? #also i just think its embarrassing when self-labelled proshippers act like free speech warriors ngl but that's an aside #ANYWAY i think this is all extremely unimportant but i don't want to do work so im posting abt unimportant things

[altschmerzes]

getting real tired of people who are shitting on “found family” more generally as a narrative concept and specifically named familial dynamics in fan interpretation of characters in particular because it all seems to be getting painted with a really wide and really homogenous brush. “we need to take found family away from people because they think it all has to be In Nuclear Family Terms and do you know friendship exists and you don’t have to call these characters siblings to legitimize their relationship while making it clear you Don’t Ship Them Ew Gross and THEN you sneer at people who Do ship them” cool cool that is a lot of really intense characterization and assigning of motive to other people en bloc!

like sure there’s some meaningful critique to be found in a broad trend to label every single relationship directly and specifically with terms that have very specific contexts and roles but im waiting to be told when anyone IS by the standards of people making and reblogging these very sweepingly generalized posts allowed to call a relationship parental or whatever. is that Ever allowed. who is handing out the permits. sometimes a specific term for a relationship isn’t actually about wanting an excuse to sneer about your ship (and frankly there’s a lot of projection going on there imo from people who are actively sneering about other people’s interpretation of a relationship!) and it’s because there are very specific contexts and details about a dynamic that makes exploring it from the lens of siblings or whatever very rich and compelling and interesting because words mean things and assuming everyone is just being reductive and demanding conformity to a nuclear family is, ironically, really reductive.

so like. cool it. stop being really fucking mean about people having an interpretation of a dynamic you personally don’t like or makes you feel a little weird or uncomfy because you ship them.

#gav gab #im so tired of seeing people do this lmao #is someone actually being reductive and trying to get your ship labeled ‘basically incest’ #or did they just express on their own blog that they don’t ship something bc they see those characters as siblings #so it feels weird to them #you know #the exact personal preference and interpretation you’re expressing in the opposite #it’s all ‘UGH not every relationship NEEDS A SPECIFIC LABEL’ as soon as the label isn’t romantic lmao #like amazing of you to start caring about how friendship matters as is legitimate without anything else #as soon as it’s not about your fucking ship anymore :) #be real you do not care about friendship lmao you can just dismiss it more easily and comfortably #when people aren’t using terms that are more loaded to your ship #are the big meanie found family enjoyers actually harassing you for shipping fake incest #or are you just uncomfortable when it is not about you #and chronically unwilling to curate your experience the way you demand other people to #because fandom has always catered to shipping and why should it ever Not be expected to do that #bc I sure see a lot of shit talking of familial dynamic labels based on people who use those labels being weird to other people #and not a lot if any of those people actually being weird to shippers #and one or two isolated incidents is not indicative of a widespread problem #do what everyone who doesn’t like a popular ship does and unfollow and block lmfao grow up

[harrowedsoup]

I appreciate the tlt fandom because at least here I can say stuff like ‘dude these sisters are like…creepy close. Something inappropriate is/has/ or almost happened here’ and almost no one has given me shit about it.

#there should be a ship category #where like #I don’t ship but like. I get WHY people do and also I think some writers don’t know how to write siblings #like some kind of incest is happening even if it’s just emotional incest lmao

[fite-club]

the greatest trick online predators ever pulled was convincing teenagers that “people who are not cool with pedo/incest/rape/etc fanfiction” and “bullies who tell people to kill themselves over fandom” are the same singular group

#the only reason you think ‘antis’ are all horrible people is because proshippers want you to think that. there is a specific agenda there. #mean comments or callouts are not MORE dangerous than these kinds of content. many would argue the content is more harmful than harassment #obviously ‘people should like fictional things’ is an opinion everyone agrees with #but some of you LITERAL CHILDREN do not understand the extent to which normalizing some of this stuff is damaging #like it’s all hidden in the term ‘anti’ itself because like. its not short for anti shipping. its short for anti pedophilic ships #anti incest/rape/necro/zoo porn. thats way harder to publicly be against. so they just shorten it to ‘anti’ #which obviously makes them the Bad Guys #anti means bad and pro means good so obviously we should all be pro right? we’re all good mature people who hate harassment right? #please god consider why certain people are so obsessed with associating criticism with bullying #anti #proship #proshipper

[lanshappycorner]

Sometimes I look outside my scope of mutuals and I'm like.....I'm glad I'm not them (whole essay in the tags)

#im going to ramble about a very touchy subject here but it pertains to 🐉♠️ which i am very open about shipping #apparently its Problematic or whatever 😭😭???? according to Some People #you know ive been thinking abt this for a while now but people really like spouting rhetoric abt how this or that is problematic without- #-really considering the specifics of why things are bad. things being bad are not the same as things possibly being uncomfortable #like people have an aversion to adult/minor ships or incest ships because these are real and tangible things that happen and are disgusting #i do feel like people have freedom over what they want to consume/create in fiction although those topics are an ick to me and i avoid it #but also you have to understand people dont like it primarily because of the realistic aspect of it and how it connects to reality #not a one to one but because reality already has these preexisting issues we naturally have an aversion to it #you cannot apply the same logic to like a dragon man x human ship because a dragon man is not going to scoop you from the sky #the ramifications of shipping an immortal and human are nonexistant and do not pertain to reality and cannot be judged on the same scale💀 #well beside from the logic 🐉 is old in body but his mind develops in the way a fae would. and he is described to be young in fae #so up until now i assumed the normal assumption was to say that he is around ~18 in fae yrs by how he interacts with others in his yr #🐉 is like old in the way where hes lived for a long time and understands the passage of time #but hes processed it through the lens of a young person hence why he can come off as immature despite how old he physically is💀 #like are we playing the same game?? if he was a well adjusted fully developed adult with a complete understanding of the world and stuff #like idk trein. none of the events in ch 7 would be happening. its kind of like a huge part of his character that despite his physical age #he IS still learning as he IS still young #i could go into a analysis of his character but thats for another time </33 #anyways i see people . primarily young people. telling their mutuals you can or cant ship this and that #and im like its okay to not like ships if you personally find it uncomfortable but to police ur friends...for ships that arent even 'bad' #its insane to me...how do u live like this? #people really need to start thinking about the nuances and why things are the way they are in regards to fiction #instead of buying into that weird pr*ship/ant*ship thing 😭 ive always hated it its so dumb. my university professors wouldve hated it #theres no nuance like...none. personally i also think its why people have low reading comprehension these days too tbh #life is about looking at various viewpoints and coming up with your own opinion #not 'picking a side'💀 learn to form your own opinions. talk to people around you about it. do not constrict your opinions to black/white #its an extremely dangerous mindset to have even outside of literature and it makes you very susceptible to dangerous ideas/propaganda #anyways what im getting at is learn to have educated discussions with others and come up with your own opinions instead of picking a side #btw there is no right/wrong side in literary discussions. there is no good/bad side either. whatever you come up w someone will disagree #thats why its important to just believe what YOU believe in (and not parrot others💀). and also be open to change

[aureentuluva70]

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#*breathes in* ok #i am in a particularly bad mood today and turning to see practically every ship I don't like in the fandom is not helping #being in a fandom can be so exhausting at times especially when you dislike practically every popular ship in it #it can be such a nightmare to deal with. i came here to ESCAPE not deal with this crap #and yes i am talking about russingon and a number of other incestous ships in this what-often-seems-to-be godforsaken fandom #like i get it. i really do. i can see why people ship them but #do you really have to shove it down my throat like that? do you have to make it so that it is practically INESCAPABLE? #and the fact that they are COUSINS just makes it SO MUCH WORSE #not that tolkien was exactly helping when he decided to make EVERY SINGLE IMPORTANT CHARACTER RELATED #even the MARRIED ONES like why tolkien WHY #i do not have the time for this crap and im sick of having to deal with it everyday #it just feels like i can never enjoy any fandom I am in for very long because i always feel so out of place and alone in it #i get discouraged and then i leave because it feels like there's no way i can really contribute to it #ive tried to write fanfic but for some reason i just can't #i dont feel like my fanarts are good enough #i know im being overly dramatic but i just really need to get this off my chest

[tomboyyyaoi]

trigun twitter blows like actually fucking sucks ass like actually eats shit like good god what a cesspit. what a fucking travesty how those people live and consume media, twitter fandoms continue losing, seethe, rot, fester, youre all doomed

#sorry idk why i turned into an evil wizard at the end there #but fr trigun twitter fucking sucks its so bad good lord what a sad little life jane #those mfs will say 'i hate when ppl fetishise and feminise vash' to mean ppl draw him with a pussy and call him babygirl #and it makes them fucking seethe for some reason #like man if u want hypermasc vash with a big swangin cock u draw that u go right ahead #but ppl like the way he cries and whines and whimpers and theres fuckall u can do about that imagine getting upset over that #imagine spending ur precious free time ranting on twitter bc ppl ship fictional incest #imagine getting genuinelh passionately upset bc ppl 'dont get' media u like bc they fucking read it differently #imagine not having fun #jesus fuck its so miserable #these ppl are pathetic #jesus christmas man #what a life #god my braincells are burning #trigun twitter sucks so bad christ i hope u all get clowned on we are officially one of the worst fanbases just from how ppl act on there #actual brain damage #im shifting into hyper retard mode #god almighty #sad little people so much fucking discourse over virtually nothing #dont even get me started on the reprobates who talk about vamery like its some rancid problematic ship actually shut the fuck up kys #maim maim kill kill die die die die die #god #hate breeds hate ur all rancid #this is why im not on fandom twt it makes me so fucking angry #rancid site #rancid #putrid

[poisoned-pearls]

When and how did you start shipping Jamiazu? :3

Oh god this is a whole can of worms that I’d love to explain

so I originally was actually a really big riddle fan when I started, he’s the entire reason I started playing (and then I met Azul and jumped ships. Still love riddle tho), I didn’t know a ton abt Scarabia so I kinda just, default shipped Jamikali bc i didn’t know a ton, so my brain just paired them together (now I actually have a lot more intricacies with my ships. I don’t think I ship any of the ships I did at the beginning except for rookvil. Nothing against most of them, I just like them with other ppl more)

then I encountered jamiazu (…I think from zvezdacito’s art? It was definitely art but they were in the background) and was kinda like “huh. This feels really out of pocket. Why do they ship-“ so I looked into it. And then I kept seeing like their moments in game and I just, fell in love with it (I also think that around the time I was falling out of interest of jamikali. Nothing against it but to me I don’t think that they could ever be healthy unless Jamil was like. Away for years-)

the most concrete reference I have is the first time I drew them, which was January ish. They look WAY different from how I draw them now bc I slowly memorized what they looked like and started adding my own details.

and I’ve been in the fandom since… October 2022 ish? That was very spotty tho bc I have adhd and it was only a minor hyperfixation on the side of my main one (which was… Genshin-), but I didn’t seriously get into until December 2022

but yea!! I really really like them. I genuinely think they have the best dynamic and what could be the healthiest relationship. (other than silkali, but neither of them should be in the villain school in the first place so-) (also Jamil’s voice actor agrees that they’d be close friends. So HA-)

a lot of my hyperfixations also center around ships (bc they center on characters usually. Which then goes to whoever I like them with the best,)

#I hope this doesn’t seem to mean to jamikali I genuinely have like nothing against it #I’m usually very like selective with ships. I’m aroace (spectrum aro) so I’m very like. Particular #Like these are my ships and i don’t really enjoy putting them with other people bc to me they work the best (bc i think abt it a ton- #But yet again! All my own opinion #as long as someone isn’t being mean to be abt what I ship I have no problems with what other people ship #Except for incest and like #Adults with kids #(I know nothing abt the whole “proship” and “antidhip” culture and I don’t want to know. I know it’s fiction but why do you want those in f #Fiction)

[francy-sketches]

I hateeee how asoiaf has just become the "incest books lol" to so many people. what a dumb and reductive way to look at a series that has so much more like. of all the things you could say are the central themes of asoiaf incest in not one of them lmao.(yes obviously it's present, but not nearly as much as people make it out to be) And this isn't about people who havent read it and are just judging from the outside bc who gives a shit about them. But I see this mostly from fans and its just??? what the fuck did you read/watch lmao. I mean even hotd which centers around thee incest family isnt about the incest and you'd have to have negative media literacy to think it is.

Also it's fucking insane how being uncomfortable with incest shipping gets you ridiculed in this fandom lmao. like I'm not here to be the morality police ship whatever the fuck you want idc. but dont be surprised when it makes people uncomfortable??? "ummm if you dont like incest why are you reading the incest books/watching the incest show??? weirdo" I dont fucking know man maybe all the other 348593 interesting things it's about. just a guess. And these are the same people who go on about "well just bc you write something fucked up doest mean you agree with it" which. yes! true!! then why do you uncritically endorse targ incest blood purity 😭 do you think maybe that's one of the things grrm wrote that he doesnt agree with? of course not, hotd is a cautionary tale about the dangers of not doing incest and what happens when you let your pure valyrian blood be contaminated by gross peasant genes from outside your family ^_^ obviously ^_^ and anyone who's not into your incest ships is a bigot <3 "but it's normal in their world!1!11!!!" no its not lol. and even if it was. marrying children is also normal in their world what's your point

#.txt #asoiaf #incest cw #'the gods hate incest. Look how they brought down the Targaryens' <- chracter who clearly thinks incest is normal #btw with incest i mostly mean siblings here. bc cousins seems to be pretty normal for them. but there's a big difference lol #its normal for the targs and that's it #and even then. man it would have been so interesting to explore targ incest as psychological horror rather that 'perfect uwu babies' #like imagine being a kid showing normal affection to your sibling and your parents are like. omg someone's in love <3 #thats so fucked up and interesting to me!! but no instead we get 'and baegel married his sistercousin and they lives happily ever after <3' #btw i wanna make it clear im not clutching my pearls at people who think incest in asoiaf is interesting #or like it in a 'wow that's fucked up. more' kinda way #but man the 'uwu incest romance' people are so annoying lol. daemon is a malewife sure whatever make everything boring #also i think its gross lmao but again ship what you want idc #especially when its not canon like. why do you want extra incest 🤨 #im so tired of seeing helaemond everywhere jfc leave them aloneeee. aemond is a freak but not in that way -_- #lucemond also. die #cringe ass ship names btw -_- #sorry for the rant i dont like to get too serious but this annoys me so baddd #anyway f&b was a mistake

[cannibalisam]

i'm unsure if s*ltchurch's new post is irt the post we've all been reblogging but apparently they like the "themes, motifs, and interesting stuff that makes ppl sick" about incest implications bc it's just a "theme you can engage with however you want" ... but they DON'T like the way WE engage with it. meaning what exactly? they think they have a monopoly on identifying incestual implications in gothic media and being intrigued by it? they don't like the fact that it turns people on? i don't even think any of us said anything akin to "this is making my dick hard" on that post LMAO so it really just seems to come down to.

"hey. i web-weaved this thing i find morally deplorable yet interesting but you're not allowed to find morally deplorable things interesting if you're gonna reblog it."

#like why do you THINK people ship incest. like yeah it turns some people on of course but me personally it's not even about them fucking #it's abt how much of yourself & your love & devotion can you give over to your family before it becomes weird. before it becomes something. #Else. #i'm not trying to put them on blast or anything like at this point i'm just gonna leave them alone but it's just weird to complain when #the intention of the post was to point out the weird incestuous implications but dislike when people who see those implications and find #them interesting want to engage with your post.... i don't get it is all!!

[thelittlemermage]

ok ok so I know this doesn’t matter to u and u might even already know but I desperately need you to know that the Day after you posted that thing about ppl getting upset about selfcest, a new adventure time episode dropped where a main character told two separate sets of alternate universe versions of people that the alt versions of each other should kiss. She Encouraged Selfcest. and the fandom is going nuts trying to figure out why she would do that. like man. what.

ok I know u don’t care but I had to tell you cuz it was literally the next day and I can’t stop thinking about it

I DID SEE THAT. I've somehow managed to never watch Adventure Time so I'm personally so far removed from this but I saw people going on about that on Twitter and I was dying kjskllkklsf. What is it about this that makes people lose their minds. Seriously. You can't fuck your clone/alternate version of yourself in reality? ? How is this a moral issue for anyone to the extent that you'd get like...actually upset over it. It's hard to believe just a few years ago the biggest thing on tumblr was Onecest. It's like we jumped into a different reality at some point.

I do care :p If only because I've had to deal with it unexpectedly (at least to me because I'm still in Timeline A idk about the rest of the ya'll) and I was actually surprised people were upset by it. So I'm curious what makes people act that way. I think it's no big deal to feel uncomfortable for whatever reason, but I don't get the part where it makes you go out and attack people in ways that are so dramatic and often gross.

#idk man I think she'd do that because normal people would not think it was something to get upset over #tbhhh when I made up narfcest it was meant to be like. A joke referencing onecest. I think people did not get the joke #but also I would joke that people saw the word cest and immediately shut off their brain and flew into a rage #until I found out that is genuinely unironically what happened :T #I guess I didn't think you could have that little critical thought but here we are #shout out to that one anon trying to heckle me before tho that was like WHY SUPPORT INCEST. And I was like well. It's not. #and they were like YOU HAVE A POINT- #yea man I know I do. weird you never stopped to figure that out before me tho? #Might as well make people extra mad and say that I honestly couldn't care less about twincest ships either #it's just the fact that it is. not. #like you're creating a problem that doesn't exist here for what reason.

[antirepurp]

undertale revisit unlocking such choice memories as a very specific AU whose conception i witnessed and watched it take off and contaminate a significant portion of the fanbase in like 2016, and an ask blog that i followed that was fine at first but i have a hazy memory of them somehow bringing politics into it later on and a very concrete memory of them introducing an incest pairing that made me drop the thing like a hot potato. wild times

#soda offers you a can #thinking of it now i do remember the author(s?) having like really weird takes on shipping as a whole #including their opinion on said incest pairing. which probably should have set me off sooner #alas i wasn't very good at reading people like that and im still not great at it #either way. some of this could explain why my vibes with this game have been feeling different this time around

[burnitalldowndarling]

ajskal tumblr has a (weirdly functional) blacklist for a reason. if someone doesn't tag something you (general) think they should... use the secondary blacklist.

you can put in words that show up in the body of tags. like plantcest. or if you don't want to see them at all? put their url and it'll catch it!

Yep, I've used xkit's blacklist myself for years (not sure if you're saying this for me or for the last anon). There was one word in the fic description that should've been caught by any blacklist of the word "plantcest," but clearly that anon would rather send hate than take responsibility for their own fannish experience.

So I said what I said. If somebody can't handle using a blacklist, then they should block me, because my blog is not a safe place for them. Folks who don't know better than to put their hands on a visibly hot stove need to stay out of the kitchen.

#anon asks #and why are we even applying 'incest' to interdimensional plant people #the only reason I bothered to tag it on ao3 is so people could filter it #that's the ship name and ao3 for some reason did not have it as a standing relationship tag #but they canonically stab each other in the spine and bodily enter the collective unconscious to reproduce #they probably don't have dicks but they do have KNIFE TENTACLES and ARM NUKES #and your first thought is 'ew incest'? #what a bizarre thing to fixate on #amid all that #trigun stampede #spoilers #plantcest #antis and purity wank

[wounded-hands]

its so funny liking a ship and telling myself "see this one isn't incest" and then seeing tons of posts by teenagers in fandom saying these two guys who didn't grow up together/aren't related are now incest.... can't escape incest shipping if I tried huh?

#every ship i like is now ~incest coded~ or whatever lmaooo #actually in disbelief like its such a tame ship why do i already have to block people after #a quick two minute search!!

[theslowesthnery]

Ah sorry for the art thing and I got it mixed up. I was referring to the post where you were ok with anon asking about Miquella being heavily pregnant with Mohg's babies and isn't it kinda... gross? Miquella is depicted to be cursed with eternal youth and there are many statues of him being a child, unless you are talking about adult Trina but Mohg is not even interested with her. Or unless people are talking the decrepit body of Miquella in the cocoon... and it doesn't even look like him. You are also ok with twincest between Mohg and Morgot?

anon i. i have drawn mohg and morgott straight up fucking. half (if not more) of the elden ring fic/scenario ideas i've posted here have been about morgott knocking mohg up. i think it's safe to say i'm "ok" with twincest between mohg and morgott

look, some people look younger than they are, and some people look older than they are, and it's not their appearance which defines whether it's okay to pursue or be in a relationship with or fuck them - it's their age. a 15-year-old who looks mature is still a minor, and a 20-year-old who looks 16 is still an adult. and we know miquella is an adult, because his twin sister is an adult. you are allowed to be uncomfortable with people shipping him, you are allowed to not want to participate in said shipping and you are allowed to curate your own online experience, but like. just because something is "gross" doesn't mean it's wrong. "gross" is not objective, and it doesn't equal "harmful"

anyway, the miquella i personally ship mohg with is post-cocoon miquella who i headcanon as looking older or even having turned into some kind of creature who might even be bigger than mohg, but frankly that shouldn't matter

#elden ring for blacklist #fandom discourse cw #shipping discourse cw #incest cw #i don't usually mind answering questions about this stuff as long as people aren't rude about it #but sometimes i wonder why exactly they care how i feel about this stuff #i'm literally nobody #why do people care what i ship or don't ship or like or don't like