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puppyexpressions · 3 months
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Daily Cuteness: Finnish Spitz
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armasthekooiker · 2 months
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You can't deny this is the peak of Dog
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my sweetest girl
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oneleggedflamingo · 10 months
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21.05-23
At the pond.
- Vivera Rossi
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losech · 7 months
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You have talked about breeders of certain breeds who want to breed out defining traits (such as prey drive) to make a future of pets instead of dogs with a historical purpose. And now you have mentioned that FS and KBD breeders that you've talked to don't sell to hunters - is that because they don't morally agree with hunting, they want to breed pets instead of dogs with a job, or something else?
It's mostly based around the broad belief that it's illegal to hunt with bark-pointing spitz in North America. Once upon a time ago someone misinterpreted wildlife harassment and hunting laws and nobody bothered to check themselves if that opinion was correct. The belief has become entrenched in those breed communities and is used as an excuse to not work the dogs. Very few of them will admit they just don't want to hunt the dogs and throw that out as justification instead. Even though there's people all across North America hunting with spitz breeds, they still spew it as fact.
When Norwegian Elkhounds were first imported into the United States, they were used as hunting dogs. They did not hunt moose because yes, that is illegal to do with dogs here. (State laws do vary on what you can hunt with dogs, I have yet to find one that you can't hunt anything with a dog though.) But they made excellent hunters on game such as raccoon, squirrel, and bear. They were very popular in Appalachia in particular. A few of them still are hunting dogs here but like the KBD and FS (and Norrbottenspetz), in general, they have been turned into show and pet dogs. None of these hunting spitz are specialists by the way. Despite having "elk" or "bear" in their names, or being associated with grouse, they are all used on a variety of game in their native countries.
The not selling to hunters thing is based around people thinking hunters don't care for their dogs, that living outside is abuse, and that they don't breed hunting dogs.
Yet, the same people proudly boast about how this is a hunting breed, it has high prey-drive, they bark a lot, etc. They warn that these dogs can't safely be let off-leash because of their drive or they'll run away, which is not something hunters have a problem with. They like the idea of the breed, but not the reality. So they make shit up and breed out the traits that make these dogs what they are.
This nonsense has had a big negative impact on hunter's ability to import other hunting spitz into North America. People straight up lied and said they'd hunt the dogs in order to convince breeders to export. It's now widely believed that North Americans will say what breeders want to hear in order to get a dog exported to them, so it's become very difficult to get a quality hunting dog from overseas if you are not very well connected. And the people here do not care that's what they've done to those of us who want these dogs as hunting companions.
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shepherdenjoyer · 11 months
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tigerpika · 5 months
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Fluffy baby
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myteahunter · 7 months
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And this is how we spend cold days lol.
Such a huggle hound :)
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claimtheskies · 4 months
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Random sketches
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beetlepawss · 11 months
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blueysona!
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pet-userboxes · 1 year
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Finnish Spitz userbox
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d0gbite · 10 days
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spitz-types breeds <3
i have never been able to identify which breed of dog i am, despite always knowing i am a dog. recently though i’ve been feeling extra connected with spits-type breeds.
i fell in love with several spitz breeds about 2 years ago and they’re just my absolute favourite now. it sucks that no one’s ever heard of most of them. they are so me. i am a big fluffy northern dog !!
breeds from first to last:
Finnish Spitz/Finnish Lapphund mix, Icelandic Sheepdog, Eurasier (my favourite), Samoyed, Greenland Dog
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she missed the memo about her being a bird dog
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mammon-enjoyer · 7 months
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My beautiful boy Echo
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losech · 7 months
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What made you prefer West Siberian Laika than other nordic breeds?
At the time I was looking into WSL I was also interested in Karelian Bear Dogs and Finnish Spitz. Norweigain Elkhounds never crossed my mind for some reason, and other hunting spitz would need to be imported which was not an option at the time. The short answer is availability, cost, hunting ability, and contracts.
There were no KBD or FS breeders I could find that hunted their dogs, sold to hunters, were within my price range, didn't have ridiculous contracts, and were planning litters soon. I know of a few North American KBD breeders that hunt their dogs now. They're still more than I'd prefer to pay for a dog, especially one that comes with stipulations. (I do not like contracts, it's 100% my dog or not my dog at all.) I know of a couple people who hunt FS but in general, unless you import that breed, the fact that you want to hunt gets you blacklisted from the "reputable" breeders here.
WSL are almost exclusively owned and bred by hunters in North America. It's not exactly an easy breed to find, but once you know someone with one they start popping up. In addition to working their dogs, the breeders didn't have contracts, pups were in my price range, and I knew a couple people with or planning litters.
Now that I've owned WSL for almost 10 years, I'm glad I went with this breed instead of trying to find a KBD or FS. I've met many of all three breeds in that time and WSL do fit me better than the other two.
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iicraft505 · 1 year
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Finnish spitz
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