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yassentheassassin · 8 months
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george put the pressure of providing for his family on a ~12yr old miguel's shoulders and tyler threatened him into withstanding it...is it any wonder he turned out the way he did
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eobardthawneallen · 9 months
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"Did you Fuck my Mom, Ty?"- Miguel :(
[ID: A fanart comic of Spiderman 2099.
First panel is Tyler Stone in a medium close up shot he has his mouth open, the background is just a blue wall, Ty has two bubble speech by each side, First reads "A 14 year old boy tried to fight me today" and the other says "but by pure coincidence"
Second panel has narration box continuing the dialogue "I happen to know his mom on a first name basis" Background is not very distinguishable but I swear is a park to walk Conchata, Gabriel and George O'Hara are walking at the distance, Ty and Miguel are looking at them.
Ty is yelling at Conchata, she is waving with one hand, and has her other in Gabriel's, Gabriel is just walking and grabbing Conchata's hand, George is walking by their side, he is angry.
Kid Miguel is there but can only seen part of his hair.
Tyler has a shouting speech text that says "Conchata!" Miguel has an exclamation point and there is another description box "I yelled her name, she looked at me and smiled"
Next panel is Miguel and Tyler, the background is the same walking park, now is shown that they're standing in the path, behind them is grass, a tree, a pair of bushes and the city far away.
Miguel is has his hands in front of him closer to him in a defensive pose, he has one leg flexing like on tip toe, he is worried and there is a sweat drop falling down his face. Tyler is inclined towards Miguel, he is resting his hands on his knees, he has a smug smile showing his teeth. there is a narration box that says "And after that I told him" and Tyler's speech bubble says "I'm gonna Fuck your Mom." last panel is again just Tyler with the blue wall, he is in a similar pose of Gendo Ikari, interlacing his hands in front of him, he still has a smug on his face. he has two bubble speech that say "I gave that boy more psychological damage that any ex-gilfriend he will ever have."
clothes for the characters are a grey suit for Tyler, Conchata is wearing a sleeveless white shirt, a bugambilia purple skirt, a gold marriage ring and a bracelet, a silver necklace, and black heels. Gabriel has blue clothes, long sleeves and striped collar, George is wearing a green hat and jacket, grey pants, and yellow shirt.
Miguel is wearing a red shirt with a jacket with black sleeves with sky blue on the shoulders, and the rest of the jacket look like a blue vest. some jeans and blue sneakers. END ID]
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spider-man-2o99 · 1 year
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miguel & gabriels parents only occasionally show up to any Significant Degree together in the main book (and are entirely in flashbacks when they do) but. it feels pertinent 2 mention that it's not Just A Headcanon that miguel is still deeply affected by his upbringing well into his adulthood it is quite literally The Canon Text of SM2099 lol. just because it took until the ANAD run for marvel to say “PTSD” itself in the book it doesn't mean he Never Had It before then yknow
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roskii · 10 months
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Miguel has two dads and they are both awful. Fuck George O'Hara and Tyler stone, all my homies hate George O'Hara and Tyler stone.
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Spider-Man 2099
okay, so I barely post here anymore since tumblr is broken as fuck BUT
I read the Spider-Man 2099 omnibus vol 1 (didn't watch the Spiderverse movie since I fucking despise the concept of the Spiderverse. Simple as) and I have to talk about Dana.
Dana might truly be the most crap (female) character in the book. I couldn't get over how little she had going for her. Nearer the end I was making a mental list of women who'd work better as Miguel's love interest lmao (Xina, ofc; Jennifer - the sister is better; Kasey could've been a complicated and therefore interesting matter). I get the idea that she's sort of the suitable corporate wife for Miguel at the start of the series, when he's still Tyler's boy and should walk in his footsteps. But that message gets muddled imho when she doesn't grow any way - either as a true vapid stooge or someone who has more going for her than that.
It also doesn't work when you learn that Tyler had an affair with Conchata. There's a lot of ways to look at that relationship (why did it happen? Was there brief love there from her end? Was it just business), but considering Tyler probably had Kron when they were together, but seemed to already not be content with that, it seems absurd he would look at Dana, someone who was a perfect Alchemax poster girl, and think she could work for Miguel OR himself, when his relationship with Conchata must've had an element of "you are a more worthy woman for me, suitable to carry me a strong child I can rear as my heir". No shot he ever looked at Dana and thought the same thing. Crying over her and telling Conchata "I really loved the girl" my ass. The latter I can take as his usual bullshit, but the former is on the same tier as Doom crying over 9/11.
Also, how the fuck did Dana look at the conflict between Miguel and George O'Hara and go "oh, Miggy actually deep down cares for his dad and him crying at the funeral is proof of that". Girl, GIRL!!! Have some sense, I am begging you. You SAW how terrible it was between them, you saw how George baited him and how Miguel drew back, still afraid to do anything that would confirm he's his (step)father's son. And all you got out of it was THIS??? All the brains in the family went to Jennifer, it's insane.
Miguel was in the wrong to cheat on Xina, this is a fact. In a story sense it adds drama, it puts these old childhood friends who'd grown into lovers in a terrible place where they had to learn how to both apologize and forgive. But Miguel, baby. With Dana?
There were other things, but I had to get this out. Dana was infuriating.
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pinayelf · 8 months
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I could write an essay about how Miguel's white father disliked xina, the the point where xina sarcastically says that they were together cause it bugged him
the different implications whether or not we view it from Miguel's '92 comic design where he's white passing (or white latino) or if we view it through his atsv design where he's explicitly brown is so much
like I could be here for hours about how george is THAT type of racist that goes to poc "I like you, you're not like the others" and how nasty it is that he married and had kids with conchata then proceeded to abuse her. how he used his mixed race son as a tool for success, the most important thing about him being his prodigy not him as a person
how I know it pissed him off that the love of his life is an Asian woman who doesn't back down at his racial aggression
he's just such a nasty and horrible man
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spiderverseconceptart · 8 months
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Character exploration and expression sheets for Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse by Ami Thompson
Jessica, Gwen and Miguel exploration. Jessica Drew, Delilah, Ben Reilly, George Stacy
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Hey Writers of ATSV, STOP letting White Men off the hook and expecting me to clap.
The fact that Miguel is repeated dehumanized and called an animal even prior to him snapping but George Stacy's scenes are written completely sympathetic towards him -
It doesn't sit right with me. Look at this:
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They call Miguel an animal in the opening scenes.
At this point, he's not a threat to anyone but Vulture. In this scene, Miguel is doing exactly what he's supposed to do as Spider-man.
He gets called an animal.
Two pages later it's literal George Stacy holding a gun to his daughters face, and yet it's written completely, 100% sympathetic towards him AND ONLY HIM.
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Which like..... Girl... Let me adjust my spectacles because I cannot be reading this right.
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He's pointing a loaded gun at his daughter. Gwen is undoubtedly more scared than she's even been in her entire life.
She's confused and desperate, one of our main characters is going through a traumatic event.
The script though? It only cares about George and how he was 'betrayed by his little girl'
As if Gwen isn't her own person.
As if Gwen didn't just save dozens of lives. In a situation where the police could do nothing.
Had Gwen not been there, the police would not have been able to handle Vulture. The threat is subdued - yet he still persists.
It doesn't matter that she just saved multiple lives. It doesn't matter that she's not a threat - or that she's his literal daughter.
What matters is how hard this is for the adult white man with the lethal weapon in his hands.
The scene SHOULD be written from Gwen's point of view. SHE'S the victim.
But no, the white male cop is going through it due to his own emotional incompetency so let's focus on that while calling Miguel an evil animal.
In ATSV both George AND Peter - the two white men in the movie - let Gwen down. They either put her in danger or do nothing as they watch.
George points a gun at her. Peter watches Miguel as he physically assaults Gwen and puts her in the machine, exiling her into homelessness.
Then, he gets to go home to his wife and kids, not even mention to MJ that Gwen and Miles were both assaulted and are now missing. And instead he whines about how he's 'not good at this mentor stuff'.
In ATSV the White Male characters repeatedly fail the people around them with no consequences at all - even from a lot of the audience.
And yeah - Peter Parker is completely neglectful.
To the point it's not okay whatsoever.
I've seen MULTIPLE people say that 'Peter is justified in not helping Gwen during the Go-Home scene. Because Miguel was obviously violent and he's probably scared of him plus he was holding MayDay.'
Which is an excuse that ignores the fact that it's pitiful that GWEN a teenage girl facing homelessness - who is likely weaker than both Peter and Miguel - is more willing to stand up to Miguel than PETER PARKER.
It ignores the fact Miguel would NOT attack a fucking baby. He's a FATHER.
But it's easier to assume the Latino man is a raging, angry, baby killer than to admit the white man is committing neglect.
It baffles me that people will really defend Peter saying 'he was scared - he didn't know what Miguel would do-'
Neither did Gwen. But she still did it.
Because she's a GOOD GUY. Because it mattered to her. Because the people she cared about were getting hurt.
She stood up to Miguel in the face of literal danger and homelessness.
Peter had nothing to lose. He make a joke and shut up when he was told.
Once again: If Gwen and Hobie hadn't come for Peter, we have NO IDEA how long he would've stayed with Miguel. We are given NO INDICATION prior to Gwen's arrival that Peter is actively going to change sides. Or is even really considering it in that moment.
Even in the script Peter shows no remorse or worry for Gwen or Miles at all.
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It's as if they don't cross his mind. As if he doesn't care he led Miguel directly to Miles because he forgot he had on a tracking watch. As if what he just witnessed didn't disturb him, as if he isn't worried that Gwen is literally homeless.
All he cares about is him, and his image as mentor.
Like sir, I do not give a DAMN. I might not even give a fuck, if you will.
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Shut the fuck up about that mentorship shit 😭😭😭😭 You tryna mentor niggas that's MISSING.
He's like that deadbeat dad that brought you a bike a decade ago at 6 and he still bringing it up asking you why you don't call him 'dad'. Like just because you taught Miles to swing over a year ago doesn't mean you're his mentor mfer. Miles would've learned to swing anyway cause it's literally instinctual and every person bitten eventually learns it by themselves so really Peter wtf 😐
People will scream 'But there's nothing he could do!! Miguel is too scary!!'
One: Peter is one of if not the Spider-person with the most experience. If we assume he was bitten at 18 and he's say 45 now, that's still over 25 years of experience. If he was bitten in high school, that's even more experience.
He has biological powers Miguel doesn't, plus he has years of experience over Miguel - who canonically got his powers as an adult. If anyone in that room can beat Miguel - it's him.
If you're telling me that Peter B. Parker is not only scared of Miguel but he's scared to the point he will not even attempt to question him, even though three people younger than him will - Gwen, Hobie, and Miles - that's pitiful. That's a sad excuse for a Spider-man.
Also He's Spider-Man. The whole point of Spider-man is he fights even if he isn't sure he can win.
Two: At the very least, he can show that he's genuinely concerned for the kids he wants to mentor so bad. But he doesn't even do that. Even bringing them up or saying their names doesn't cross his mind.
But once again, the white male character emotionally neglecting those around him - especially the children who depend on him - and both he are George are either shown as innocent, unwilling to act, or the script is outright sympathetic towards them.
It's easy to call the Latino man an animal but writing a scene in which a white cop is rightfully portrayed as selfish is too hard.
It's easy to call the Latino man a monster but writing Peter Parker as a heroic figure is too hard.
The racism is not just towards Miguel. It's also in the blatant favoritism the white male characters are given.
Both George and Peter actively endanger those around them and at no point do they do something on their own accord that helps anybody but themselves.
Gwen has to go to her father - by force. Gwen has to go to Peter - using Hobie's hard work.
What we NOT GONNA DO is give the white man praise when it's literally the black guy who did all the work.
Fuck - Hobie mentored Gwen TEN TIMES MORE than Peter ever did Miles. Hobie put a roof over Gwen's head and came to get her when no other person would.
Writers, stop trying to make me sympathetic towards the white men who actively hurt the people around them when there's good mentors like Hobie and good parents like Rio and Jeff.
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I ain't with the shits'. If anyone is an animal in this script, it's the man who pointed a gun at his daughter.
I guess assaulting and mentally scaring children is only okay if you do it with a firearm? Or if you make this face while doing it 🥺*
(*coupon not available for the melinated)
I changed my mind i don't forgive Peter or George. Miguel who has a whole ass arc of life and death and loss gets called an animal while the white cop with six minutes of screentime gets shown as father of the year while holding a loaded gun to a child girl you must be kidding me
Maybe Gwen would be in a better mood if we let her kick their asses idk 🤷🏾
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tonitart · 11 months
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Some doodles because movie is soooooo good!
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Ford Sterling, Charlie Murray, Eddie Fitzgerald, Jack Richardson, Budd Ross, George O'Hara in unknown film
Mack Sennett's Fun Factory by Brent E. Walker
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iamheretemporarly · 6 months
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Migue “was abused by his step dad called George” O’hara after he found out that gwen’s dad that actually pointed a gun at his daughter is also named George
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yassentheassassin · 7 months
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not a day goes by that i'm not mentally ill about miguel's relationship with his family
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mystristages · 8 months
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[ms paint] anything to carry down our dynasty
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spider-man-2o99 · 1 year
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miguel is constantly telling people not to call him “mr. o’hara” in the comics, because that name was his father’s... (from an in-universe perspective) i wonder if he was planning on just taking dana’s last name when they got married, or anything similar
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fernaitor · 11 months
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another one
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Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Marvel 2099, Spider-Man - All Media Types Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Conchata O'Hara/Tyler Stone Characters: Conchata O'Hara, Tyler Stone (Marvel), Miguel O'Hara, George O'Hara Additional Tags: Angst, Suicide Attempt, Past Abuse, Past Child Abuse, not very happy tags, Conchata/Tyler is past talk, asshole man and his secret relationship with a woman got me acting up, i live laugh love this stuff, takes place during Spider-Man 2099 #36 Summary:
How terrible of a thing she'd done, cursing her baby the moment he'd been conceived. George beat the guts out of him and Tyler rearranged them to suit his needs.
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Conchata O'Hara's last smoke leads to thoughts of Miguel and Tyler Stone.
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