#george stacy

[alienbycomics]

In Full Swing: A comic about Spider-Gwen’s past inspired by Across the Spider Verse 🏳️‍⚧️ (⚠️Spoilers!⚠️)

#spider gwen #spiderverse spoilers #lgbtq comics #trans artist #trans comic #queer comics #transfem #trans comics #spiderman #gwen stacy #george stacy #venom #atsv gwen #atsv #across the spiderverse #spider man: across the spider verse #indie comics #spiderverse fanart #spider verse #spiderverse #spiderverse comics

[fernacular]

I could make serious fanart

Or I could make some of the stupidest shit anyone has ever seen

#across the spider-verse #Miguel O’hara #Peter B Parker #Jefferson Davis #George Stacy #A family can be four dads #that’s it just four dads no kids #my art

[blazeturbo102]

I still think about how Gwen's dad pointed a gun at her, and then got mad when Gwen didn't want to talk/look at him.

Like, sir, you pointed a GUN to your teenage DAUGHTER. You raised your gun back up after she unmasked.

Like, you found out Spider-ghost was your daughter and you still thought she killed HER best friend?? And on purpose??

You had a duty as a police man to what?? Shoot your unarmed teenage daughter if she tried to leave?? Instead of trying to let her explain at least??

Even Aaron let Spiderman go when he found out he was his nephew, and he was the villain.

#I don't even hate the character but wtf #jefferson morales would never #across the spiderverse #spider man: across the spider verse #atsv #spiderman atsv #gwen stacy #spider gwen #captain stacy #george stacy #aaron davis #jefferson morales #miles morales #spiderman #spiderman itsv #itsv #into the spider verse #spider ghost

[spiderverseconceptart]

Character exploration and expression sheets for Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse by Ami Thompson

Jessica, Gwen and Miguel exploration. Jessica Drew, Delilah, Ben Reilly, George Stacy

#spiderverse #spider verse #across the spiderverse #atsv #spider man: across the spiderverse #concept art #expression sheets #supporting characters #jessica drew #gwen stacy #miguel o'hara #delilah atsv #ben reilly #george stacy #ami thompson

[the-cat-and-the-birdie]

Hey Writers of ATSV, STOP letting White Men off the hook and expecting me to clap.

The fact that Miguel is repeated dehumanized and called an animal even prior to him snapping but George Stacy's scenes are written completely sympathetic towards him -

It doesn't sit right with me. Look at this:

They call Miguel an animal in the opening scenes.

At this point, he's not a threat to anyone but Vulture. In this scene, Miguel is doing exactly what he's supposed to do as Spider-man.

He gets called an animal.

Two pages later it's literal George Stacy holding a gun to his daughters face, and yet it's written completely, 100% sympathetic towards him AND ONLY HIM.

Which like..... Girl... Let me adjust my spectacles because I cannot be reading this right.

He's pointing a loaded gun at his daughter. Gwen is undoubtedly more scared than she's even been in her entire life.

She's confused and desperate, one of our main characters is going through a traumatic event.

The script though? It only cares about George and how he was 'betrayed by his little girl'

As if Gwen isn't her own person.

As if Gwen didn't just save dozens of lives. In a situation where the police could do nothing.

Had Gwen not been there, the police would not have been able to handle Vulture. The threat is subdued - yet he still persists.

It doesn't matter that she just saved multiple lives. It doesn't matter that she's not a threat - or that she's his literal daughter.

What matters is how hard this is for the adult white man with the lethal weapon in his hands.

The scene SHOULD be written from Gwen's point of view. SHE'S the victim.

But no, the white male cop is going through it due to his own emotional incompetency so let's focus on that while calling Miguel an evil animal.

In ATSV both George AND Peter - the two white men in the movie - let Gwen down. They either put her in danger or do nothing as they watch.

George points a gun at her. Peter watches Miguel as he physically assaults Gwen and puts her in the machine, exiling her into homelessness.

Then, he gets to go home to his wife and kids, not even mention to MJ that Gwen and Miles were both assaulted and are now missing. And instead he whines about how he's 'not good at this mentor stuff'.

In ATSV the White Male characters repeatedly fail the people around them with no consequences at all - even from a lot of the audience.

And yeah - Peter Parker is completely neglectful.

To the point it's not okay whatsoever.

I've seen MULTIPLE people say that 'Peter is justified in not helping Gwen during the Go-Home scene. Because Miguel was obviously violent and he's probably scared of him plus he was holding MayDay.'

Which is an excuse that ignores the fact that it's pitiful that GWEN a teenage girl facing homelessness - who is likely weaker than both Peter and Miguel - is more willing to stand up to Miguel than PETER PARKER.

It ignores the fact Miguel would NOT attack a fucking baby. He's a FATHER.

But it's easier to assume the Latino man is a raging, angry, baby killer than to admit the white man is committing neglect.

It baffles me that people will really defend Peter saying 'he was scared - he didn't know what Miguel would do-'

Neither did Gwen. But she still did it.

Because she's a GOOD GUY. Because it mattered to her. Because the people she cared about were getting hurt.

She stood up to Miguel in the face of literal danger and homelessness.

Peter had nothing to lose. He make a joke and shut up when he was told.

Once again: If Gwen and Hobie hadn't come for Peter, we have NO IDEA how long he would've stayed with Miguel. We are given NO INDICATION prior to Gwen's arrival that Peter is actively going to change sides. Or is even really considering it in that moment.

Even in the script Peter shows no remorse or worry for Gwen or Miles at all.

It's as if they don't cross his mind. As if he doesn't care he led Miguel directly to Miles because he forgot he had on a tracking watch. As if what he just witnessed didn't disturb him, as if he isn't worried that Gwen is literally homeless.

All he cares about is him, and his image as mentor.

Like sir, I do not give a DAMN. I might not even give a fuck, if you will.

Shut the fuck up about that mentorship shit 😭😭😭😭 You tryna mentor niggas that's MISSING.

He's like that deadbeat dad that brought you a bike a decade ago at 6 and he still bringing it up asking you why you don't call him 'dad'. Like just because you taught Miles to swing over a year ago doesn't mean you're his mentor mfer. Miles would've learned to swing anyway cause it's literally instinctual and every person bitten eventually learns it by themselves so really Peter wtf 😐

People will scream 'But there's nothing he could do!! Miguel is too scary!!'

One: Peter is one of if not the Spider-person with the most experience. If we assume he was bitten at 18 and he's say 45 now, that's still over 25 years of experience. If he was bitten in high school, that's even more experience.

He has biological powers Miguel doesn't, plus he has years of experience over Miguel - who canonically got his powers as an adult. If anyone in that room can beat Miguel - it's him.

If you're telling me that Peter B. Parker is not only scared of Miguel but he's scared to the point he will not even attempt to question him, even though three people younger than him will - Gwen, Hobie, and Miles - that's pitiful. That's a sad excuse for a Spider-man.

Also He's Spider-Man. The whole point of Spider-man is he fights even if he isn't sure he can win.

Two: At the very least, he can show that he's genuinely concerned for the kids he wants to mentor so bad. But he doesn't even do that. Even bringing them up or saying their names doesn't cross his mind.

But once again, the white male character emotionally neglecting those around him - especially the children who depend on him - and both he are George are either shown as innocent, unwilling to act, or the script is outright sympathetic towards them.

It's easy to call the Latino man an animal but writing a scene in which a white cop is rightfully portrayed as selfish is too hard.

It's easy to call the Latino man a monster but writing Peter Parker as a heroic figure is too hard.

The racism is not just towards Miguel. It's also in the blatant favoritism the white male characters are given.

Both George and Peter actively endanger those around them and at no point do they do something on their own accord that helps anybody but themselves.

Gwen has to go to her father - by force. Gwen has to go to Peter - using Hobie's hard work.

What we NOT GONNA DO is give the white man praise when it's literally the black guy who did all the work.

Fuck - Hobie mentored Gwen TEN TIMES MORE than Peter ever did Miles. Hobie put a roof over Gwen's head and came to get her when no other person would.

Writers, stop trying to make me sympathetic towards the white men who actively hurt the people around them when there's good mentors like Hobie and good parents like Rio and Jeff.

I ain't with the shits'. If anyone is an animal in this script, it's the man who pointed a gun at his daughter.

I guess assaulting and mentally scaring children is only okay if you do it with a firearm? Or if you make this face while doing it 🥺*

(*coupon not available for the melinated)

I changed my mind i don't forgive Peter or George. Miguel who has a whole ass arc of life and death and loss gets called an animal while the white cop with six minutes of screentime gets shown as father of the year while holding a loaded gun to a child girl you must be kidding me

Maybe Gwen would be in a better mood if we let her kick their asses idk 🤷🏾

#no proofread #I'm just yelling #spiderman #atsv #spider man #marvel #across the spiderverse #hobie brown #gwen stacy #miles morales #miguel o hara #miguel o'hara #spiderman 2099 #ghost spider #spiderwoman #peter b parker #atsv analysis #George Stacy #Peter Parker

[dimensionzero]

every major character's screentime in across the spiderverse

miles morales: 1 hour, 26.5 minutes

gwen stacy: 56.5 minutes

miguel o'hara: 23 minutes

rio morales: 20 minutes

jeff morales: 17.5 minutes

the spot: 14 minutes

peter b (& mayday) parker: 9.5 minutes

hobie brown: 9.5 minutes

george stacy: 9 minutes

pavitr prabhakar: 8 minutes

jess drew: 5.5 minutes

margo kess: 3.5 minutes

ben reilly: 1 minute

peni parker: 20 seconds

spider-man noir: 10 seconds

spider-ham: 10 seconds

#i dont want to talk about how long this took dfghjkljh #these arent exactly Rough estimates but theyre not super certain either. sanded down estimates #across the spiderverse #across the spiderverse spoilers #miles morales #gwen stacy #miguel ohara #the spot #rio morales #jefferson morales #jessica drew #hobie brown #peter b parker #mayday parker #george stacy #pavitr prabhakar #margo kess #ben reilly #peni parker #spiderman noir #spider-ham #this is making all our blorboposting look very funny by the way. can you believe hobie was in less than 10 minutes of the whole movie #at least the people thirsting for miguel have a solid 20 to work with

[tonitart]

Some doodles because movie is soooooo good!

#I really enjoyed this a lot and watching it a second time makes it even better #spider-man #spider-man across the spider-verse #spider-man 2099 #spider gwen #spider punk #miguel o'hara #gwen stacy #george stacy #hobie brown #mayday parker #fanart #my art #doodles

[iwasbored777]

Gwen's face while listening to her father talking shit about Spider-Woman is sending me

#when you overhear your family complain about you even though they're lucky you don't make their lives a living hell like your friends do #gwen stacy #spider woman #spider man across the spider verse #across the spiderverse #George stacy #ghost spider #spider gwen #Spiderverse

[lapseinart]

You think people from other universes feel weird or off to non-Spider people?

Like the Spideys are so used to their Spidey Senses telling them shits off, but Spidey Senses like other Spiders, so they can ignore it pretty easily but

Rio looks at the girl her son is talking to under the water tower and can’t get the crawling feeling of unease from nagging at her. This “Gwanda” is strange—not just white girl strange—the colors of her face seem to blur and blend in front of her, but that hardly makes sense; Rio is just being overprotective. When the girl promises to find Miles, Jeff thinks she looked like she was under UV light.

George Stacy could swear that the young man that drops the box for Gwen at his door changes colors every time he looks away. There’s something jagged and rough about him, and it’s not just the punk aesthetic. If he squints, George thinks he can see some kind of aura around him.

The boy in the black mask that saves Inspector Singh is odd, for a lack of better word. His suit looks too… black, oddly textured in a way that Singh can’t quite define. For once, he is grateful for the Spider they do have.

#across the spiderverse #spiderverse #hobie brown #miles molares #rio morales #george stacy #gwen stacy #inspector singh #atsv #spider-man #marvel #spider punk #lapse in writing #lapse in thoughts #1k

[batatart]

"It's been a while since I've seen you laugh like that..."

#spiderverse fanart #gwen stacy #miles morales #earth 42 #earth 42 miles #earth 42 gwen stacy #rio morales #george stacy #ghostflower #gwiles #this was kinda rushed ngl #but UGH don't I love them already #batatart

[iamheretemporarly]

Migue “was abused by his step dad called George” O’hara after he found out that gwen’s dad that actually pointed a gun at his daughter is also named George

#spiderman #spiderman 2099 #miguel ohara #miguel o'hara #spiderman into the spiderverse #spiderman across the spiderverse #miguel o’hara #gwen stacy #george o’hara #george stacy

[doomed-jester]

My contribution to the Spider-Verse discourse

#spider man #spiderman #spider gwen #ghost spider #spider verse #spiderverse #across the spiderverse #into the spider verse #marvel #trans #trans woman #lgbt #peter parker #george stacy #captain stacy

[charliecharlston]

i wanna speak to the void abt gwens universe's colour symbolism and how it links to trans identity so here it is, feel free to read

the colours used in gwens universe - primarily in interactions with her dad are pinkish and bluish tones. the animators used pink as a way to show honesty, candidness and openness expressed, whilst the blue served to show isolation and dishonesty. ill discuss why i think so below

in the scene where gwen returns home after quitting the band, gwen is coloured in blue tones.

shes hiding her identity as spiderwoman from her dad and isolating herself in her room.

her dad tries to open up and talk to her about the case, hence the warm/orangey tones. but gwen remains blue, shutting him out. but when they hug, gwen is more purplish, showing a hint of her opening up.

the other scene i think is especially significant with her colour symbolism is the confrontation after the guggenheim sequence.

when gwen comes out as spiderwoman, the colours start to shift.

gwen is now candid, shes come out to her dad and is trying to make him listen and understand her. but just like gwens blues became pinks, george's pinks shift to blue.

the last image in this set is actually so chilling, the fear in his eyes hurt me deeply 💀 anyway

george hides behind his cop persona, avoiding and isolating from gwens confession to him, which is supported by the colour used to portray him.

all of this builds to what i think theyre trying to say about gwen being transgender. the typical gender to colour association is pink girl and blue boy. the choice of colour is deliberate here as much as it usually is with the spiderverse team. why use these two colours in this specific way? a lot of people who dont think gwen is a trans girl will say "well those two colours dont have to represent trans identity" they dont, but the details say that the spiderverse team (once again) is intentionally using them to talk about trans identity and coming out.

i think that by putting the "protect trans kids" poster in gwens room, and the trans flag patch on officer stacy's jacket show that theyre not just randomly picking the colours, but that they made the conscious choice for the boy associated colour - blue - to show hiding and isolation. whilst pink is about honesty and openness whilst being the girl associated colour. i think that the use of these colours in this way is saying that gwen is a trans woman.

and if ur still not convinced well

i havent even talked about the DIALOGUE in this movie and how trans it is. her arc (and miles' arc) across the two movies is such a queer coded story. "can i tell my dad, will he approve of me? will he still love me the same?" like it couldnt be more obvious. someone also mentioned somewhere that the side shave is also significant? like when she has the long hair facing toward the viewers its the same as the pink being used to show honesty and linked to femininity, and the short side almost like a masc haircut and being of the opposite meaning when its facing the audience. idk abt that one but its an interesting thought! that as well as her like having the same shoe size as hobie even tho that man is so fucking tall - yk this cuz her chucks are stated to be his.

anyways if u got that far, thanks???

and if u still deny that gwen is trans then idk what to say, u prob hate trans ppl

gwen is trans, they dont need to explicitly say it inorder for it to be true, just bc they didnt say gwen is trans, or miles is somehow queer, or hobie is gender non conformist, doesnt mean theyre cishet.

#across the spider verse #spiderverse #into the spiderverse #gwen stacy #george stacy #atsv #itsv #trans #transgender #transfem #gwen is trans #colour symbolism #color symbolism #gender #gender identity #queer #pride #spider punk #hobie brown #miles morales #punk #gender noncomformity

[spiderverseconceptart]

Earth-65 color and lighting ideas for Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse by Dave Bleich ( 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.)

#spiderverse #spider verse #across the spiderverse #atsv #spider man: across the spiderverse #color keys #earth 65 #gwen stacy #george stacy #dave bleich

[the-cat-and-the-birdie]

Friendly reminder that Gwen's father was most likely going to shoot her.

And Miguel might've legit saved Gwen's life.

Rewatching ATSV - This scene always just gets be HEATED. Everytime I catch something that makes me

'Okay. Okay yeah, yeah - AHHHHHHHHHHHH-'

And this time I realized. Oh. OH.

Gwen's dad was PLANNING to shoot her - Or.. if we consider cop training, he was mere seconds away from actually firing on her.

And he would've had Miguel not been there.

In Gwen's confrontation scene - her father WAS actively threatened and afraid of her. And from what we see, he was VERY VERY close to acting on it, more than you think.

The point in the scene begins with him pointing the gun at her, and as he speaks and Gwen begins to beg, he begins to gradually lower it.

Until she steps closer to him. And then he starts pulling it on her again.

He is literally re-raising the gun at his daughter, because she took a step towards him.

So not only is she his daughter, she's also like... 5'6 and sixteen years old.

And he's still afraid of her, enough so that when she takes even one step closer, he is ready to threaten her life again.

You can hear the fear in his voice, and I don't doubt for a second he would pull the trigger - either on a warning shot, or a 'nonlethal' blow.

We've all heard cops say it before. 'I panicked', 'it was self defense'.

And Friendly reminder-

MIGUEL saves Gwen's life here.

Now look at this first photo.

And before you keep reading, please guess what's really really REALLY bad about that photo. Just look.

Trigger Discipline.

If you don't know, trigger discipline is the concept taught to gun-owners in order to reduce accidental shootings and firings.

Trigger Discipline is the idea that your finger should NEVER be on the trigger of gun unless you plan to fire it in the next two-three seconds.

Otherwise, THIS is the proper position to hold a gun.

Gwen's father is a cop. He's 100% been trained in trigger discipline. He knows not to do this.

Which implies - George Stacy was ACTIVELY PLANNING on shooting Gwen right then and there. As in, seconds away from pulling the trigger.

Raising a gun to his daughter at close range, finger on the trigger.

I think his actions can speak for themselves. He was going to shoot her.

And the only reason he didn't, was because Miguel saw this - and forcefully took the gun from him. (Like a proper Spider-man put some respeckt on his name)

George didn't care that there were TWO adults standing there as witness. He didn't care that he's not supposed to touch the trigger. In that moment, truly all he cared about was imprisoning Gwen - by any AND ALL means necessary.

And to top this off -

Friendly reminder, he never apologized. For ANYTHING.

He doesn't apologize for pulling a gun on her. He doesn't apologize for forcing her into homelessness. He didn't apologize for accusing her of murder.

He doesn't even ADMIT that she DIDN'T KILL PETER.

All he does is quit and compliment her. No apology. No acknowledgment about how his identity as a cop turned him into a toxic horrible father. No acknowledgment that Gwen isn't a killer.

Just 'I quit'.

Had Miguel not been there - I'm very sure George would've posed a VERY real danger to Gwen's life.

He doesn't deserve to be forgiven. And really, considering his arc, glorification - and his failure to even apologize - it really goes to show that at some points ATSV really teeters on casual copaganda.

Also Miguel that was really really cool of you (you saving Gwen's life totally makes up for the whole chokeslamming Miles thing <3 /j)

#i hate George Stacy #All my Hobies hate George Stacy (not as typo) #justice for Gwendolyn #spiderman #atsv #spider man #marvel #across the spiderverse #gwen stacy #spider gwen #spider woman #spidergwen #ghost spider #ghostspider #George Stacy #miguel ohara #miguel o'hara #spider man 2099 #spiderwoman

[lcvescountdown]

gwen's dad probably had a heart attack after she returned from being missing for days with a completely new haircut

#gwen stacy #spiderverse #across the spiderverse #spiderman #ghost spider #george stacy #miles morales #into the spiderverse #ghostflower #movies #movies and tv shows