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wearevillaneve · 4 months

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Anguish. (original illustration by prianikn/boosty)

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queerjesusthelord · 16 days

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I've been thinking about her

You know, I’ve been thinking a lot about what happened: why did they do what they did, was there some logic in it, were we so furious because of the denial, as we were unable to accept the forlorn finale and why did it hurt that much so nobody could recover from it till now.

It’s been two years, guys. Two years of re-reading Luke Jennings books, writing songs and dedicating them to VillanEve, doom scrolling post about them, about all the anger fans still got for Laura Neal and the shitty ending (as Villanelle would say with a sexy Russian accent).

I was listening to my beloved Unloved soundtrack of course, all this time. I’ve been on their concert in Paris recently and felt euphoric as I was sinking into Eve and Villanelle love story again and again through their divine music. Every word and sound reflected with my whole body and soul – it was ineffable. Every time I listen to “I’ve been thinking about her” it brings me to tears. I genuinely want this song to play at my funeral one day.

Well, I did my best to remain in this state of equanimity and kinda succeed. But a couple of months ago I decided to re-watch KE from season 1 and here is what happened. I happily binge-watched all three seasons and it felt like home – a perfect comfort zone, a way of my escapism. I even discovered a place where they shoot Villanelle’s apartment (here in Paris), I walked there, secretly got into the courtyard – it was AMAZING – visualizing what happened there in the 1st season, remembering their dialogue with Eve – “I think about you all the time” and stuff. It was comme la presence de Villanelle and I felt so happy and inspired there.

Lately I realised that I’ve been struggling, not wanting to re-watch the goddamn last season. Why the fuck it was so hard? I just can skip the last 5 minutes and et voilà – it would be just perfect. Plus dearest Luke Jennings has been writing and posting his new book about Villanelle and Eve (RESURRECTION) since November 2023, so we know that in his book they got their happy ending and their love story goes on, so it’s good news, right? We have something to rely on “more rock than sand” and it sounds so easy…

But frankly it’s not – I couldn’t pretend I did not see it – the ending they’ve made. I didn’t want to be in this denial any more. I was so angry, I didn’t want to go through it again. But I wanted to see the kiss, to feel their love, to embrace this fucking finale as well. The mixed up feelings were bothering me much so I decided to contemplate on them more, to write this down and here’s what I got.

For me this show, the VillanEve story, was very personal. And it started way long before the book. The book was a cure to find my peace AFTER I watched the ending, so I think it is what it is: the show is one thing and the book is another. I cannot pretend they are the same, like “Villanelle’s death was never meant to be in the book so fuck Laura Neal and her interpretation”. It’s fucking painful but I need to admit it – they ruined my favourite show, something I really loved and I feel so miserable I cannot simply rewatch it from time to time (like Twin Peaks for instance) to feel cheerful and happy KNOWING what awaits me in the end. It’s not a comfort zone anymore, it is a pure Hélène style torture.

I’ve never felt so attached to the heroes before. I mean, I watch a lot of tv shows and movies, and I easily emphathysise to every story I love. But THIS was different. It was a mind-blowing love-journey, irrational, psychotic, driven, crazy, fun, epic, passionate, surreal, iridescent and QUEER. I NEVER felt so seen and understood on the deepest level by just WATCHING the show. VillanEve resonates with my personal life and fantasies and I was glad that I found it. I’m more of a visual person, so it was crucial for me to be able to WATCH it, to see the performance of Sandra and Jodie and their desperate game with unresolved sexual tension where should, no, MUST have been the glorious end game. The happy ending for them and for all of us. Not just us queers, but all the people.

This show was twisted, sexy and fun from the very beginning – thanks to ingenious Phoebe Waller-Bridge. And it should have stayed like that and ended like that. It shouldn’t have to be a torture. It’s not Game of Thrones for christ sake. Besides, the story of The Twelve was screwed up too, and I will explain why.

We have a lot of this political shit in life already. Right parties, fucked up capitalism, like Russian government and its dictature. It’s no fun guys, this is really frightful and disastrous. So I believe we people do need some kind of an inspiration, a hope in the shows we watch – so we can take this hope to our lives and keep it, lean on it. In dark times like this it would be really helpful and right – so they should have caught the The Twelve gang and crush it, end it for good. But they (producers) fucked it all up so it’s quite impossible to be unfucked.

They ruined the VillanEve AND the fiction fantasy itself. It was the Author and the Twink death at once. Why not choosing an open ending if you had no idea how to end the show? The open final is always a good way, for me it’s all about respecting your audience. Think David Lynch way. Open endings give you a possibility to rewatch the show and come up with new ideas and interpretations. But they screw this one too.

So no, I think will never accept the finale. I will be grieving for a long long time. Until some director or a show runner who loves VillanEve as much as I do, makes a come-back to fix this shit.

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born2dyke · 1 year

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karma is my girlfriend

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frontlinebicepsoftheninth · 7 months

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I saw you tagged killing eve in the 'worst series finale' poll - how *does* it end? I watched the first two seasons and then lost interest. (also I hope you're having a good day!)

first of all thank you i am and i hope you are too!!

but alright here we go ⚠️⚠️ MAJOR SPOILER WARNING MAJOR SPOILER WARNING ⚠️⚠️ for anyone who does want to watch for themselves bc tbh the first few seasons are excellent but i honestly don't know if i can recommend them anymore in good faith after knowing where it all ends up

so okay. you know how the whole crux of the show is this intense psychosexual relationship between eve and villanelle. and how there's an obvious romantic tension between them. well from what i remember (cause it's been a while) they started actually working together in season 3, but then because they realized they make each other worse they had this whole dramatic moment where they walked away from each other on a bridge and weren't supposed to look back but of course they both did turn around at the last second and then the season ends.

flash forward to season 4 and you can tell time has passed and they aren't working together and it's implied there was some big falling out and we have no idea what it is. eve is just annoyed and done with villanelle and villanelle is like trying to prove she's not a bad person and goes to church and stuff and actually that plot was extremely hilarious and she imagined up a drag jesus version of herself for advice and they were acting like exes and it was playing into the whole comedic surrealism aspect of the show really well. but after the first few episodes it just kinda fell apart like i just remember feeling lost all season and not understanding where we were going and this is definitely due to the changing showrunners (they should have just kept pwb for the whole thing!!!!) but they kept adding new characters out of nowhere, some of which were really well done but then we were following plots that were thrown in randomly and it was just a bit of a mess.

but eventually by the LITERAL SERIES FINALE eve and villanelle have both given in to the fact that they enjoy being in each other's company as the worst versions of themselves (which is honestly such a fun direction to go that i really enjoyed especially for a sapphic pairing). and after they've been apart for a vast majority of the season finally they have this good banter going and it's all domestic and then there's a scene where they're walking down an empty road together and this romantic music comes in. and they finally literally actually have The Moment. like they had kissed before in the previous season but not in an explicitly romantic way, they were physically fighting each other on a public bus and eve kissed villanelle to throw her off before headbutting her (SO GRIDDLEHARK OF THEM THAT SCENE IS ACTUALLY SO GOOD) anyways. villanelle kisses eve on the cheek and then eve stares at her and grabs her and they make out for a solid FORTY-FIVE SECONDS. it was so intense and they're kissing as they're stumbling down the road and they run back to the camper van they were travelling in and it's for sure implied that they have sex in there. so everyone was like oh my fucking god they actually did it. like this is where the show was always going, it's a whole I Can Make You Worse thing where both people were like "fuck it i'll be worse then" and gave in to the tension that had been building for years not just within the plot but FOR VIEWERS SINCE 2018.

so i don't exactly remember what happens next but the whole season they've been trying to kill The Twelve which was the assassin group in charge of villanelle, and we find out carolyn was a founding member actually, and i will be honest that plot was always confusing to me but iirc she wasn't with them anymore. so eve and villanelle infiltrate this wedding party boat that's a cover for a meeting of The Twelve (this is like the last 10 minutes of the show now) and they kiss again and there's a scene where it's like they're indirectly talking to each other through the wedding speech that eve somehow ends up giving and that's so romantic too and then villanelle slinks off, finds the meeting, and murders everyone. so yay the protagonists are together finally and villanelle killed her abusers and they are finally in happy gay love. then out of fucking nowhere as they're standing outside on the boat villanelle starts to get shot at. (this is literally the last five minutes of the entire show now) and she falls into the river or maybe jumps in to get away i don't remember and she's still getting shot and eve is swimming to try to catch her. and it's all this dramatic slow-mo beautifully shot stuff that's like horrible in context cause the blood is blooming in the water and eve can't reach villanelle and they do a whole creation of adam hand reach before villanelle slips into the depths.

so literally eve had just thrown away any chance at a normal life to embrace the side of her that loves violence and loves villanelle so they could spend the rest of their life together and that was such a slay. and then she loses villanelle which like, if they wanted a tragic ending it would have been kinder to kill them both, it's so much fucking worse to leave eve spending the rest of her life mourning the one person who understood her and let her give in to her carnal desires. and it is directly after letting the two queer characters finally achieve happiness that one of them is killed off which is the DEFINITION of the bury your gays/dead lesbian syndrome tropes, there have been literal academic papers written on how the phenomenon is like a punishment for queer joy etc etc. this shit has been in the discourse for decades and they fell dead center into the trope which is just so disappointing because at the start ke was such a unique story and one of the first mainstream shows that embraced morally gray queer characters in a way that wasn't homophobic.

oh! and guess who shot villanelle? carolyn!!!! and it was still NEVER CLEAR WHY! she worked for MI6 now so it being in revenge of The Twelve didn't really add up, some people thought she wanted to kill villanelle as like a prize for MI6, it was kind of implied that konstantin told her in this note he spent his last breaths writing (yeah he also died which was the saddest tbh) that villanelle had killed carolyn's son kenny (this was a major plot point of season 3 and carolyn was trying to get revenge, he fell off a building under mysterious circumstances) but that made no sense because it was implied to be konstantin since he was on the roof with kenny and also villanelle was literally in fucking spain or something the episode when it happened.

like i get it. this is a tragic show. people die every episode. but from a writing standpoint it makes absolutely zero fucking sense to kill off one of the two main characters of your show, in the last five minutes of the show, after finally cashing in on your flagship queer romance between them, and leaving the motivation for killing her completely ambiguous.

anyways i'm so sorry that ended up this long jesus christ but tldr: killing eve ends in the worst bury your gays i have ever seen after a season that didn't even have good plot or pacing

#i. really did not think i was going to write an essay here but apparently a year later i still have lingering feelings over this lol #thank you so much for the ask though i love a chance to rant and this was so fun haha #killing eve spoilers #killing eve #ke #ke spoilers #not tlt #ask #OH AND I DON'T THINK WE EVER FOUND OUT EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED WITH THEM BETWEEN THE SEASONS EITHER?? maybe i just forgot though

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ignorant-rat-carcass · 2 years

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Killing Eve: The Beginning

Season 5: Limited Series

So.... it's no surprise that a vast number of KE fans were less than thrilled with the way Season 4 ended - myself included.

So, rather than merely stewing over it and wallow in what could have been's, I figured the ending was ripe for an epilogue of sorts to tie up some loose ends and thought what the hell - bloody good writing exercise if nowt else!

I've previously shared my thoughts on possible outcomes following the closing moments of the show finale but if you're planning on reading the script (so far...), I'd recommend saving that post for afterwards to avoid possible spoilers in my script.

It's just a first draft and very rough around the edges but it gives you an idea where my head's at.

Thoughts and feedback is more than welcome, good or bad!

Either way, I hope you enjoy it!

(Disclaimer: This is only a spec script and is in NO way connected to the writing team, programme makers or anyone connected to the Killing Eve TV series or books.)

So.... should I continue or no? 🤔

#killing eve #villaneve #killing eve spoilers #villanelle #eve polastri #jodie comer #sandra oh #ke spoilers #ke finale #ke edit #fanfic #my edit #my writing

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g4l-p4ls · 2 years

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the "it would be depressing for eve to die" remark irks me. eve had been blindly chasing after certain death for 4 seasons & made numerous mentions of not caring if she dies or hoping she dies yet killing her would be depressing? but it's not depressing to kill a character who is trying to be better and expresses wanting MORE out of life from the very beginning of the show only for her to just barely graze happiness and be killed shortly after. THAT is what pisses me off the most

#killing eve #killing eve season 4 #jodie comer #sandra oh #eve x villanelle #villanelle #ke spoilers #eve polastri #killing eve spoilers #killing eve thoughts #killing eve theories #ke finale #ke season 4 #ke s4 #mine

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drdesperatepigeon · 2 years

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Well... when you kill someone in your show and you HAVE TO explain it. Then it is already feels like a big NO. But WHEN YOU explain it like " i try not to see it as a death" that's the point where you (should) KNOW that you made a huge mistake you just don't have the integrity to admit it. When even YOU don't want to see it as a death...Sooo tRiUmPhAnT.

The fact that it is pre-recorded and they were already this defensive towards the ending BEFORE it even aired... it's like you close your eyes and tense your body before you crash instead of swerving the other way and avoid an accident.

#pls stop #killing eve #killing eve spoilers #villaneve #killing eve 4x08 #villanelle #eve polastri #killing eve finale #ke spoilers #laura neal #stop talking #triumph

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lesbianologist · 2 years

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i finally pinpointed why the ke ending bothered me so much (aside from the blatant themes of homophobia) (kinda long btw)

it's a culmination of a lot of different things, an amalgamation of sorts: the loss of direction with their writing (and understanding) of the characters, the lack of direction with previously explored themes, the collapse of the plot, the misuse of certain characters, the abandoned plots, the plot-holes (because of the abandoned plots), and it’s the fact that as pwb quoted initially, “every moment in this show exists so these two women can end up in a room together”. the room is intimacy through vulnerability. hell, sandra even reiterated this in an interview (y'all know the one; where they both were indifferent to the end of the show) and i discussed it prior to that infamous interview. this is important for the basis of the show. it is the absolute core and foundation of killing eve.

villanelle has experienced insurmountable trauma from a bewilderingly young age. she was abused by her mother in so many ways (her mother going so far as to call her a monster, and dropping her off at an orphanage where, yet again, she was exploited), she was trained to be an assassin, and she was taught (and reprimanded by most, even by konstantin!!!) for having feelings. for caring about eve. for thinking of her, and mostly for being in love with her.

we see this love expressed in so many ways. yes, initially vil doesn't understand how to love. she views it as possession. hence why she goes from "mine" to "now we walk away and we never look back" and finally, to grabbing eve and telling her to jump off the boat to protect her from being shot.

villanelle has been abused most of her life. by her mother, the twelve, dasha, konstantin, and raymond, and probably more people. ironically enough, she’s not the antagonist in this story, but rather, she is the protagonist for most of the seasons (i’d say all but s4). it’s why we’re drawn to her and enamoured with her. she represents the ugly parts of humanity that reside within ourselves that we wish to fix, and when we’re introduced with the plot of her mother abusing her, and we finally learn her full backstory, she resonates with us. we see ourselves in her. we want to see her make a redemption and that doesn’t necessarily mean her not killing anyone anymore.

we want to see her embrace and accept herself because throughout the seasons we’ve seen her question whether or not she truly is a monster. she has quite a lot of self-awareness, actually, as she grapples with her self-worth, redemption/forgiveness (whether she can be “saved”), and more importantly, her genuine feelings (including of guilt/remorse/shame over killing). she actually mentions it several times in s3 and once in s4 of how awful she feels awful “all the time”. we also know she experiences empathy as we see this when she kills that young boy in hospital who cannot see anymore and wishes he was dead.

from season one until this final one, she has been set up as the protagonist. we like her because she has very human qualities even though she is damaged (and unhinged). we want to see her kill the twelve and we want to see her live a normal happy life afterwards. we want to see the abuser pay, and to see villanelle find a healthy, happy life for herself (the life she wanted; "fun job, a nice flat, someone to watch movies with").

so, she’s the protagonist and one of the many obstacles that we see her face visually and through her own spoken word is vulnerability. she struggles being vulnerable as it has often been met with abuse. we see this in her scenes with her family where she tries to get her mother to love her and doesn’t receive that, in scenes where she tries to make a father figure for herself out of konstantin, and we see this in the way that she often flinches when eve is being soft with her. we see it in her inability to let go of control around eve until season 3 when she lets eve walk away from her. she makes monumental leaps from “you’re mine!” to “now we walk and we never look back.”

and now to the atrocity of this last season....

it was a calculated (and awful) choice to have villanelle explore christianity and being ~saved~ as an openly queer character, but she still had the chance at a redemption arc if they’d explored what happened after the bridge scene in s3. perhaps her and eve attempted a relationship and it didn’t work out (because of eve's internalized homophobia, maybe).

it all culminates in a season that kills off their beloved protagonist after giving her the ending that she deserved; a happy love, softness, vulnerability, etc.

i hated it, and i know a lot of you did too. it was just interesting for me to examine why a little bit deeper and realize how deeply flawed it all was, and the potential it all had.

#personal #ke #thoughts on ke #killing eve #ke spoilers #killing eve spoilers

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fightzclub · 2 years

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https://www.gofundme.com/f/villaneve-deserved-better-kill-the-trope

#killing eve #ke #bury your gays #lesbian #wlw #bi #Sapphic #queer #lgbt #I won’t post all of it but has anyone else been following this ?#ke spoilers

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killcommander1234 · 2 years

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okay okay. i’ve been trying to move on and i just happen to check in and see there’s more drama? there’s another interview?? someone please send it so i can eat revels and feel rage at LN 🙏

#killing eve #villanelle #eve polastri #killing eve spoilers #sandra oh #villaneve #jodie comer #killingeve #eve x villanelle #ke spoilers #ke #carolyn martens #fiona shaw

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wearevillaneve · 1 year

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Never forget that Laura Neal is not only a hack and a homophobe but a cruel homophobic hack.

Villanelle saw it coming.

#killing eve #laura neal #ke s4 sucked #ke spoilers #killing eve chose cruelty #the homophobes won #i blame sally woodward gentle #laura neal betrayed our trust #fuck laura neal #god i hope laura neal is having a bad day #killing eve twitter

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queerjesusthelord · 9 days

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The ending we wanted 💔

#killing eve #villaneve #eve x villanelle #villanelle #eve x oksana #eve polastri #eve x villanelle kiss #ke spoilers #killing eve thoughts #titanic #rose and jack

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born2dyke · 2 years

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yeah.

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frontlinebicepsoftheninth · 7 months

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in general i do think killing eve has so much that would appeal to tlt fans: morally gray toxic codependent relationships between women, women who are the only two people in the world that could understand each other, women who end up together after trying to kill each other for years, scenes that seem incredibly romantic but end in people stabbing each other, kissing while fighting, villanelle's fashion which fluctuates between hyper feminine and traditionally masculine sometimes in the same episode, women who love to make each other worse, women who realize they like killing and violence, women murdering asshole men in very satisfying ways, a lot of being sexy while killing people, milfs, milfs making out, women getting turned on watching their ex kill people while making eye contact with them, blood and guts and gross stuff and women who retain their visible injuries across episodes instead of looking facetuned 24/7, women who work in morgues cause they love being around dead people, the list goes on

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ignorant-rat-carcass · 2 years

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No one:

Me: Fine! I'll fix it then.

UPDATE: Read part 1 here

#if you insist #killing eve #villaneve #villanelle #eve polastri #jodie comer #sandra oh #spec fic #spec script #scriptwriting #fanfic #ke finale #ke spoilers #fandom #tv show

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g4l-p4ls · 2 years

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we must have been watching a different show than the one they were creating or thought they were creating bc it's just all so off base that it irritates the living hell out of me

#killing eve #sandra oh #jodie comer #eve polastri #villanelle #killing eve season 4 #killing eve spoilers #ke season 4 #ke spoilers

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