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the-monkey-ruler · 10 months

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There are ancient “sequels” that straight up ignore wukong’s buddhahood and giving him oc kids? Did this author favor taoism too?

I am not too sure about that but I like to think that these are more like the first examples of media that are inspired by Wu Cheng’en's Sun Wukong. Just because there are media out there that has Wukong have children don't mean they are trying to deny Wukong's Buddhist ties or connection that he is the Victorious Flying Buddha, but rather... overlook the idea for the sake of their own narrative purposes. The Supplement can actually fit in “canon” as (spoilers) it is all a dream and Wukongs kids are just a figment of his and the demon's imagination that he accidentally knocked Iron Fan up when he jumped in her stomach. Also, the further that it was a dream was that Red Boy didn’t exist in the dream and Iron Fan only was with Wukong. The author usually explains the tomfoolery by saying “It’s a dream don’t think about it too hard.” Also in Journey to the West After, Sun Luzhen is a stone monkey as well and thus Wukong never went against his vows, simply adopting the stone monkey as his new disciple.

As for Journey to the South, it is more a story about the deity Huaguang dadi as Wukong only makes a guest cameo in the first chapter and the last chapter, the children only being mentioned in the last and even then only Yuebei Xing was the only one with lines and actions. Poor Jidu and Luohou don't even get anything outside of a name-drop. But otherwise, there is also no mention of a wife either. It is left in that territory of... ambiguity where they never really address Wukong having a wife let alone how Wukong got these kids, just that they were his. There is a chance they are adopted but considering he does separate them from his other subjects as he calls his monkey subjects grandchildren, there is a higher chance they are his bio kids. Wukong is addressed by his Great Sage title more often than not but they all acknowledge that he went on the journey is a Buddist disciple under Tang Sanzang as well. So while I do admit it is contradictory I also believe it is one of those cases of "What if"s that is more asking the audience to please give that detail a "suspension of disbelief" treatment rather than trying to make a statement.

I'm not saying that while it would make more sense to keep Wukong as his Buddha title as that is canon in the story, there are a lot of modern media where Wukong does have offspring of some kind for the sake of "what if" cases. Sometimes authors or directors take a lot of leeway with source material for the sake of their own creative ideas and while in most cases I do think that is more for the sake of their narrative purpose than just any religious animosity. I understand that it can be upsetting but Journey to the South does more side-step the idea of Wukong being in a relationship, rather more forced on the idea that Wukong is a father-figure which personally is more of a cute idea that trying to force a romance that is never explored either.

#anon ask #anonymous #anon #jttw #journey to the west #xiyouji #sun wukong #jtts #journey to the south #supplement to journey to the west #journey to the west post #journey to the west after #sun luzhen #yuebei xing #jidu #luohou #Ketu #Rahu #ask

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sketching-shark · 4 months

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a question how bad or disrespectful would it be to use the name as king paramita for an oc I really like the way it sounds It sounds like the name of a perfectionist character, someone who always seeks efficiency as a personal goal. I don't know, that's what it transmits to me

Thanks for the question anon! And as far as I'm aware using the name King Paramita for an oc wouldn't be disrespectful at all.

From what little I know the word "Pāramitā" is a Sanskrit term often translated as "perfection," and that it is used in Buddhism to describe the character of enlightened beings, or the paths bodhisattvas must follow to become true buddhas. And you wouldn't be the first to use it for an OC! The author of the unofficial side-journey for Journey to the West called A Supplement to the Journey to the West (published in 1640), after all, involves Sun Wukong meeting his "son" King Pāramitā in an illusion created by a goldfish demon.

So given this, "King Pāramitā" sounds like a pretty good name for an oc who's a perfectionist! That said, if you're still feeling uncertain about it you may want to do more research into Buddhism, and particularly Mahāyāna Buddhism, to get a better sense of how this term is commonly used and why your oc may have that name.

Of course, it again can't be forgotten that "King Pāramitā" is the name of someone's oc from the 1600s who was there to be a "what-if" scenario/mess with Sun Wukong's mind, so take that precedent as you will XD

I'm also linking @journeytothewestresearch's article on the fan children that people have come up with for the Monkey King over the centuries, as it gives more detail into what said oc does in A Supplement to the Journey to the West, as well as gets more into the term "Pāramitā" in Buddhism:

#anon answered #king paramita #sun wukong #monkey king #journey to the west #jttw #xiyouji #supplement to journey to the west

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maidenofthecloud · 1 year

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Sun wukong is king yama's replacement as judge of the dead

Sun wukong with an intimidating face looking a Recently dead and very scared qin hui, He changes his expression to a quiet smile with a soft voice said

Sun wukong: well, prime minister qin hui, as I am new to being a judge of the dead, I have decided to start with something simple for you

Qin hui: *sigh of relief*

Sun wukong: ¡¡ someone bring the boiling oil !!

#a supplement to the journey to the west #supplement to journey to the west #xiyoubu #lego monkie kid

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jttwconfessions · 2 months

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#journey to the west #the tower of myriad mirrors #supplement to the journey to the west #journey to the west confession #untagged source confession #jttwconfessions #072

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quitealotofsodapop · 9 months

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Sorry just realized something funny about the Shadowpeach pregnancies.

First it was one (MK), then two (Eclipse Twins) and now three (Lunar Node Triplets). Maybe it is a good thing they are not interested in having any more magical pregnancies, if this keeps up they will be having quadruplets or quintuplets.

Haha! It was more a happy accident on my part XD

But yeah, Shadowpeach best be careful making more kids in the future. The "Buy 1, get 2 Free" situation with the Lunar Node Triplets have probably made them more wary when planning for future infants.

I wanted Macaque's little toyline shadow clones/Eclipse Twins (LMK) to be their kids, then I wanted the non-canon Yuebei Xing and ofc I had to include her brothers Jidu and Luohou (all three from "Journey to the South") cus they're so cool.

There are other "unofficial" kids of Sun Wukong in extended Journey to the West-inspired media that I wouldn't really count tho.

King Pāramitā (+4 unseen brothers) from "A Supplement to the Journey to the West" - set between an alternate timeline of Chapters 61 and 62 where Tripitaka gets kidnapped by a time traveller (even in 1640 people were pulling that trope) that somehow convinced him to give up the pilgrimage. King Pāramitā and his four brothers were apparently concieved when SWK accidentally got PIF knocked up when he transformed himself into a stomach bug/parasite in order to extort the Fan from her (Chapter 59 of JttW). I find that situation a bit too uncomfy/medically inaccurate so no. If anything I'd give Ironbull the bonus five kids, and that Pāramitā was the result of SWK accidentally lifting a curse from the couple - like when parents joke that their kid's "true parent" was a bottle of alcohol.

And since LMK's MK himself is likely a whole reference to Sun Luzhen from "Later Journey to the West" (17th century), it would be a little redundant to make a Sun Luzhen kid. Does give my Wukongverse idea of each of the SWKs having an "MK" weight tho.

In hindsight; between my au Shadowpeach's bio and adopted kids, I accidentally gave SWK the "five sons" (MK, Rumble, Jidu & Luohou, + the adopted Chenxiang) he's said to have had in A Supplement. XD

I would like to thank @journeytothewestresearch for their endless dedication and research into these sort of topics, since I use their articles as sources. I apologise for using your research as fanfic material. Go check their website out if you got any Jttw questions.

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yourlocaleggperson · 2 months

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This paragraph of Tower of Myriad mirrors always leaves me so happy... Even if Wukong kills the children 5 minutes later

#lego monkie kid #lmk #jttw #journey to the west #A Supplement to Journey to the west #the tower of myriad mirrors #I Love Zhu Bajie so much

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loyaltykask · 5 months

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Made this to show how the quintuplets' power dynamics work! The Supplement children are based on the Five Chinese Elements, both in their designs and their powers.

Generating cycle (相生 xiāngshēng) is:

Wood feeds Fire

Fire produces Earth (ash, lava)

Earth bears Metal (geological processes produce minerals)

Metal collects Water (water vapor condenses on metal)

Water nourishes Wood (Water flowers, plants and other changes in forest)

Weakening cycle (相洩/相泄 xiāngxiè) is:

Wood depletes Water

Water rusts Metal

Metal impoverishes Earth (erosion, destructive mining of minerals)

Earth smothers Fire

Fire burns Wood (forest fires)

Destructive cycle (相克 xiāngkè) or Overacting cycle (相乘 xiāngchéng) is:

Wood grasps or stabilizes or depletes Earth (roots of trees can prevent soil erosion/depletion of nutrients in soil, over-farming, over-cultivation)

Earth contains or directs or obstructs Water (dams or river banks/over-damming)

Water dampens or regulates or extinguishes Fire

Fire melts or refines or shapes Metal (affecting its integrity)

Metal chops or carves Wood (makes it rigid to easily snap)

Counteracting cycle (相侮 xiāngwǔ or 相耗 xiānghào) is:

Wood dulls Metal

Metal de-energizes Fire (conducting heat away)

Fire evaporates Water

Water muddies or destabilizes Earth

Earth rots Wood (buried wood rots)

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journeytothewestresearch · 2 years

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Who raised paramita and the rest of sun wukong's children?

SPOILERS AHEAD!!!!

A Supplement to the Journey to the West (Xiyoubu, 西遊補, 1640)

King Paramita and his four (unnamed) siblings don't actually exist. They are figments from a dream world created by a fish demon to distract Monkey. The novel mentions in passing that Sun Wukong and Princess Iron Fan are a couple with five handsome sons. But this comes as a shock to our hero upon learning second hand (a good representation of this realm's transitory nature).

Journey to the South (Nanyouji, 南遊記, c. 1570s to 1580s)

As for his other children, Jidu, Luohou, and Yuebei Xing, this novel never mentions anything about a mother. Perhaps they have different mothers, and then the entire community helped raise them. Monkey is after all the king of the primates on the Mountain of Flowers and Fruit. As the alpha, he would have his pick of any girl monkeys.

But I should point out that Sun doesn't show any interest in sex in the standard 1592 version of the story. One paper suggests that this was a response to an early-Ming play in which he is cast as a sex fiend.

Those wishing to learn more about the Monkey King's literary children can read my article:

#Sun Wukong #Monkey King #Monkey King's children #Sun Wukong's children #Journey to the West #JTTW #A Supplement to the Journey to the West #Xiyoubu #Journey to the South #Nanyouji #Lego Monkie Kid #Jidu #Luohou #Yuebei Xing

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comicaurora · 21 days

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hi red!! i'm doing an analysis of sun wukong's (and journey to the west in general's) impact on modern culture for my world mythology final, and for some reason i'm having a hard time finding sources. is there anything you can recommend?

The fact that Journey to the West has contributed an enormous number of tropes to modern media is very clear when the media in question is examined, but I don't know of a specific secondary source that's already done that analysis for you. However, this IS a very good excuse for you to plow through a metric buttload of shonen manga, since the lineage is basically Sun Wukong -> Son Goku -> like a solid third of all shonen action heroes written in the last forty years.

Dragon Ball kicks things off:

Started in 1984 and almost unquestionably the most influential manga ever made. Its first arc features the weird super-strong monkey-kid Son Goku - which is just the japanese pronunciation of the characters of Sun Wukong's name - meeting up with a wacky crew of thinly-veiled expys of the Journey to the West crew, with teen inventor Bulma filling the role of Tripitaka, Oolong the pig-man filling Zhu Bajie's role and Yamcha the desert-based bandit as Sha Wujing.

Hijinks ensue, and while the story drifts pretty far from Journey to the West's original plot, it actually stays pretty solidly referential in weirdly unexpected ways. Several the villains of the week are JttW references, and even the later appearance of three more Saiyans lines up with the surprise reveal of three more Wukong-like mystical apes in the original story.

The connection between Dragon Ball and JttW is very unsubtle and a frequent reference in the chapter covers and supplemental art.

Not every subsequent JttW reference is the result of Dragon Ball popularizing it or anything, since it was already enormously popular, but I think it's pretty hard to extricate Dragon Ball's influence on anime and manga from the original influence of Journey to the West itself.

One way that a distinction can be drawn is in the differences in characterization between Goku and Sun Wukong himself. A lot of the next generation of shonen protagonists were kind of Goku-alikes - pure-hearted dumbasses who only care for the three Fs: Food, Fighting and Friendship.

But the original characterization of Sun Wukong is not really all that similar. He's a trickster, sure, but he's far from a young, friendship-motivated goober. He's profoundly intelligent, pretty much the most well-educated entity on the planet, and routinely brings up that he's centuries older than most of his peers. The Goku-alikes from the later decades of shonen anime are tellingly far-removed from that original characterization. So you get characters based on Goku's cheerful idiocy, but it's just a small subset of the broader influence of Journey to the West on the space of literature.

In general, Journey to the West frequently shows up in very small, bite-sized tropes in other stories. It's less "this is wholly based on Journey to the West" and more "oh, I know where they maybe got this idea/aesthetic/power/weapon/villain of the week from." There are way too many to list, but some of the ones that tend to jump out at me are-

Sneaky characters with monkey motifs:

Tricksy, highly mobile characters who fight with a staff:

Characters afflicted with a magical restraint artifact that allows a much weaker character to stop them from misbehaving:

Specific esoteric weapons, eg. magical fans, rakes, gourds, namedropping The Sword of Seven Stars, etc.

Villains with prominent ox or pig design motifs:

Characters whose primary combat strat is just making Shitloads Of Disposable Copies Of Themselves:

Honestly it just keeps going like this. It's kinda everywhere. Finding the JttW in things is my favorite conspiracy theory rabbit hole because it's 100% harmless and more often than not completely correct.

#asks #not aurora #media recs

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rebeltigera · 2 months

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About Wukong's children, they're actually non canon. In total there are about 9 non canon children from different fan sequels.

Paramita and his four brothers from supplement of journey to the west. (Wukong jumped inside PIF's stomach and thus she had quintuplets)

The lunar node triplets Jidu, Louhou and Yubei Xing from Journey to the south.

Luzhen from later journey to the west. (Basically its a repeat stone egg birth but Wukong is a spirit and there's decendents?)

Still

Wukong went for milk

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badasstransswag · 1 year

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Just asking out of curiosity, but where does the idea that swk is trans come from?

Macaques are matriarchal, and 王 (typically translated as the "king" in Monkey King) was historically a gender neutral title. This is widely known enough that some scholarly readings of JTTW interpret the other macaque in his sworn brotherhood to be a female monkey king. (On a similar but less impactful note, though often translated as "Handsome Monkey King," Sun Wukong's title of 美猴王 more accurately translates to "Beautiful Monkey King," with 美/beautiful having feminine connotations.)

It is widely known that Sun Wukong was appointed the position of 弼马温 (translated directly as “to soothe the horses”) as a pun on the identically pronounced 避马瘟 ( “to ward off sickness for horses”). This title references a traditional Chinese belief (often cited to 马经 by 赵南星 of the Ming dynasty) that female monkeys and their menstruation would ward off plague for horses if kept in the same stable

The disciples in Journey to the West hold elemental names in addition to their given and Buddhist names. Zhu Bajie and Sha Wujing both have feminine elemental names (木母 "Wood Mother" and 黄婆 "Yellow Matron" respectively), but in contrast, Sun Wukong holds a masculine elemental name, 金公 Metal/Gold Male

Sun Wukong is a 妖 yao, and yao in general have a history of being associated with the Chinese trans community. (Supplemental: see Bai Suzhen being read as an allegory for trans panic)

Thematically-wise, Sun Wukong's story is one of transgressing boundaries. JTTW as a whole is a story that places a lot of weight on the topic of transformation and change. Buddhas becoming humans, humans becoming gods, gods becoming yaoguai, yaoguai becoming buddha, buddhas taking the face of yaoguai. Yin within yang, light within dark, nothing is inherent, nothing is black and white. 变化者乃天地之自然 "Change is the nature of heaven and earth" (Daoist text 抱朴子 by 葛洪), 诸行无常 "all forms are ever-changing/no self is permanent" (Buddhist three marks of existence), etc etc. Sun Wukong is at the center of it all, a yao who not only asserts his identity as a god, but also a yao who will not change his being in lieu of that (SWK is very invested in showing off his grand power, and achieving/living in human form is an end goal show of power by many yao, yet SWK markedly remains steadfast in keeping his monkey form). SWK is a yaoguai, a god, and a buddha all at once, transcending boundary over boundary and master of the 72 transformations, transforming himself into what he wants to be and what he feels is true for himself.

This naming scene: 祖师笑道：“你身躯虽是鄙陋，却像个食松果的猢狲。我与你就身上取个姓氏，意思教你姓‘猢’。猢字去了个兽傍，乃是个古月。古者，老也；月者，阴也。老阴不能化育，教你姓‘狲’倒好。狲字去了兽傍，乃是个子系。子者，儿男也；系者，婴细也，正合婴儿之本论。 "The Patriarch laughed and said, “Though your features are not the most attractive, you do resemble a pignolia-eating monkey (husun). This gives me the idea of taking a surname for you from your appearance. I intended to call you by the name Hu. If I drop the animal radical from this word, what’s left is a compound made up of the two characters, gu and yue. Gu means aged and yue means female, but an aged female cannot reproduce. Therefore, it is better to give you the surname of Sun. If I drop the animal radical from this word, what we have left is the compound of zi and xi. Zi means a boy and xi means a baby, and that name exactly accords with the fundamental Doctrine of the Baby Boy." -JTTW Chapter 1

Also 1961 Sun Wukong speaks in a very characteristically Chinese opera 生 voice while no other character in the movie really does so outside of exclamations and such. And well... (The sheng is a role type in Chinese opera for dignified and respectable male characters such as Confucian scholars, nobles, or heads of households. They may be portrayed by either male actors or actresses. In Yue opera, sheng roles have been mainly portrayed by actresses. Actresses playing men (sheng) is also common in some southern genres like Teochew opera and Taiwanese opera. It also appears in Ping opera. (Wikipedia))

#asks #he's basically the only one who hasnt turned to the camera and said 'i'm trans' on this poll but i think its enough .#thank you marcus for all of this teehee

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the-monkey-ruler · 1 year

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Dong Yue is such a troll because from the wiki I got this

At the end of the novel, the author lists twelve hypothetical questions that a reader might ask and answers them. Some of the answers are very similar in nature and, sometimes, contradictory.

The eighth asks how it's possible for Monkey to have a wife and children. He states that the book is simply a dream.

Since the Supplement is about Wukong’s desires, it would be funny if Wukong subconsciously thought Princess Iron Fan was pretty and that Demon Bull King didn’t deserve her (therefore uncle) and that she’d make a good mom for his 5 sons that he also apparently desired? Wukong desiring Tang to be a warlord though XD

Anyway bad timeline where everyone is OOC because it’s a fever dream sounds crazy awesome I wish I could read it.

Sometimes people are all about allegories, and nothing about substance! Which nothing wrong as long as it is entertaining. I do like how he anticipated the question because he knew himself, but he didn't explain them well enough. Also that Red Boy also doesn't exist in the book as it was said that these were Princess Iron Fan's first kids so its like Wukong willed Red Boy from ever existing as well! THAT IS FUNNY! He wanted a big family and no annoying nephew! Nooooo!

But you can read it actually it’s in English!

Here’s a link!

You are going to make a profile but still. Even comes with audio options if you want it out loud.

Have fun with the crazy fever dream!

While I will admit it is absolutely insane. I myself hope one day to have a script of how to make it into something of substance because I think there is a lot to work with. Time travel and inter-dimensional transportation aren't anything new but to know that this was one of the first 'time travel' books out there is pretty fun! It’s somewhere between a dream and a nightmare, where the dreams become so intense that they just go overboard. I feel like nowadays a lot could be played with, especially with how to look into what Wukong really wants and what he is willing to do to take it when in the middle of his journey. Like to measure himself mentally where he has changed from being willing to do anything in his power to get what he wants verse actually seeing the consequences of his desire affecting those around him that he has grown to care about and how their lives are ruined as well.

Sanzang becoming a general probably is too farfetched but the idea is that he becoming controlled by a Evil King because Wukong left and Sanzang lost his way. Now THAT can be interesting. Bajie tries to go back to Gao but as expected by rejected and thus he also joins the Evil Army. THAT is a cool take. Wujing being lost in all this and going back to hire hermit lifestyle, THAT IS SAD. BaiLong been forever, forgotten by his family and force the roam the Earth has a horse. THAT IS ALSO SO SAD. I don't know why people look any further for angst when if this story could be put in a more cohesive manner without the loose plot point or useless quests could be an interesting introspective of Wukong's desires have how they have changed from what he thought he wants versus what he wants now.

I do feel like a lot of the takes are more out of character but that is what makes it kind of scary and a bad timeline way. To think that because you (Wukong) can push people to new means. Maybe Wukong just wanted a big family before and missed his monkey, projecting that onto Princess Iron Fan who is deprived of both a son and husband and he understood that missing family. And maybe he feels responsible for both Bajie and Wujing on his journey to keep them together else they lose their ways and just go back to being forgotten criminals of heaven, nothing better than canon fodder. And his greatest fear of Sanzang losing his way... and becoming more like him. Choosing violence as the real answer to his problems, similar to Wukong. Any little desire he wished for Sanzang to be "more like him" taken to the extreme of him being a general sending out armies.

And it's that image of King Paramita, his desire for a family verse General Sanzang, his desire for Sanzang to be stronger (or rather just a little bit crueler to their enemies) being forced to confront each other in the climax!

Like I said there are a lot of wishy-washy side quests in the middle that really lead nowhere and are more of a commentary of the times and certain historical figures but there CAN be a lot of interesting plot points that could be SO MUCH FUN to play with! Wukong is always some of the first to say that he is a monk that left the family but maybe he still has that desire to be more than a grandpa to his monkeys and he a family man, but is that worth the cost of the friends he made along the way? I like to think that a lot of dreams are more his distorted desires which is what a lot of the book is. He even meets himself in a human form in the book which helps him out of his red strong of desire to help see reason.

It is only at the end when he sees the son he never knew kill Sanzang does he lose his mind, going into his giant form as he tries to destroy everything around him in a second.

But he can't.

Because he finally starts to wake up.

And when he sees that Fake Fish coming in as their "new" fellow disciples.

Man does NOT hesitate to snap his neck for messing with his dreams like that.

Have to admit that is definitely one way to end a story! But why anyone that is interested I definitely recommend it a read if anyone has the time!

#anonymous #anon #anon ask #jttw #journey to the west #sjttw #supplement to journey to the west #sorry i kinda went off on this book!#I just really loved certain idea that it gave!#Also love the idea of Wukong always battling his inner self #And that Wukong does have these moments of wishing things were different on the journey and that things were simpler #That he is unhappy with how things are #The grass is always greener on the other side kind of plot #Wukong seeing how the world is in fake WORSE OFF without him #and how him on the journey with these people who he thinks don't appreciate him actually need him so much #and how he kinda needs them to #And that maybe he really does make a difference in the world because maybe it isn't all that bad and maybe he is doing something good with #what he has #I know Im cherry picking this book BUT TRUST ME I GOT IT FROM THIS #Def not as good as I am explaining it but... I felt a lot of emotions when reading it at least.#ask

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avissapiens · 6 months

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Jockbull Summer Week 4 Set C (3/12/23-10/12/23)

Model used is Onome Egger

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I have continued the trend of fasting+cardio day. It’s actually not that bad. What was bad was the decision to bake while fasting. It’s not that I wanted the food. I don’t eat most of what I bake. But I couldn’t realistically test things too much to make sure they came out well. Luckily they were quite good the next day. Only half of one. It’s still cutting season.

2.

I got two in again! The first one was just kind of a general muscle flash. Brain producing lovely images for myself. Who needs AI when your head is already so full of muscle.

The second one however was a deeper introspection done together with Abg. We’re both POC but in many senses we are atypical. And yet still the presence of stereotypes still kind of gets in the way of both of our minds, and in particular our muscular journeys. We are both dead-set on breaking stereotypes and still coming out on top, so that was the seed for this meditation. There’s a lot of stereotypes for Black folks. And I know they are nonsense because not only do I not embody them, but most of my friends, relatives, peers etc from back home don’t either. But every time that one encounters a situation where you do meet that stereotype in yourself or in others, you pause for a second. Because especially while living in a mostly white country, you become extremely aware of the fact that everything you do is a form of ambassadorship for anyone who looks like you and visa versa. Which is a shitty burden to bear. Even after coming from a background of Black excellence in the Caribbean, there’s still so many stereotypes that come to mind. The perception of black people being unattractive, or if we are, it can only be in a brutish, animalistic, unrefined non-aesthetic way that doesn’t adhere to societal norms.

The mental stereotypes of underperformance and stupidity. The lack of ambition.

So many stereotypes are strangely contradictory too

That we're just needlessly loud and confrontational all the time but still get portrayed as servile slaves.

That we can only be good at sports but still deserve to be excluded from them. That we can't perform well at anything else. The strange juxtaposition of the athletic achievement that many POC are forced into because they lack the resources to pursue other interests and the idea that Ethnic food is unhealthy, dirty. And the very real reality of unequal access and outcomes for healthcare. The idea, often reinforced within the community, that we do not belong in certain places. In certain professions. In nature, in the world at large. That we should remain forever in this conservative slave mentality while we exist in the west.

Frankly, I see muscle and hypnosis as ways of outgrowing and defeating these stereotypes. Of changing perceptions not only for me but for my community. Perception is everything because it means that those who come after can see something different for themselves.

3.

Anyway on a lighter note. Yup, we’ve entered an edging period. It always feels so fucking good after a full week of building that erotic energy. It takes you to new and darker places and makes you vulnerable to things you might not have been before. Sometimes thats good. Sometimes its dangerous. But even that danger comes with a certain appeal.

4.

Its been a rough and busy week working on the first comm. I have some ideas brainstormed with Jockrs for an avis abstraction, it’s just always a whole different story putting pen to paper. Wish me better luck for the next week.

5.

So this one’s been interesting. It’s less been a process of drafting and then sticking. More a progressive building of momentum. Incorporating more and more things until the morning and myself feels more whole. I’ve ordered a bunch of supplements to take. A bunch of skincare stuff to harden my routine. I’ve expanded my already existing routine and even incorporated some new concepts from the world of Looksmaxxing. Truthfully, there is this deep desire in me to grow so much more in so many dimensions.And the himbo programming has definitely made one of those dimensions my aesthetics. Not for anyone else’s pleasure but for my own. I already know i’m gorgeous to other people. I want to be brilliant for myself and to be able to use that element of me like a tool and a weapon.

#jockbull summer #JBS #jock #bull

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sophieinwonderland · 9 months

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that’s an interesting and really cool observation— not many ancient stories of time travel to the past. do you have any thoughts to why that might be?

I wonder if it’s related to different values of the people, or maybe those who were storytellers had less regrets. Like what kind of background would an ancient storyteller come from? More likely to be of a higher class or a revered status. Or maybe there were stories of time travel to the past, but they’ve been lost to time/not passed down.

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I think these are some solid possibilities.

On not being passed down, that would make sense. Time travel narratives are complicated. Storytellers passing them on is going to be hard and will be difficult for a lot of people to grasp. Maybe popular stories we know today might have even once had time travel elements but were simplified over hundreds of years of retellings. It's one possibility.

I'm not sure about higher class people having fewer regrets. If anything, I think they might have more. Having social mobility means more opportunities to make mistakes. And being at the top means that when something goes wrong, you're more likely to be blamed and feel responsible.

And these were periods where one would think regrets would abound with so many wars, plagues and corruption everywhere.

The Photograph Theory

One possibility I've pondered is that technology might have changed how we perceive time.

The first photograph was in the 1820s.

Hans Christen Andersen's The Galoshes of Fortune was written in 1838.

The first colored photograph was was taken in the 1860s.

In 1881, came The Clock That Went Backwards. There are many more time travel books written after, leading to the concept truly taking off with The Time Machine by HG Wells.

One could argue that the pictures may have influenced how we view the past then.

Or Maybe Not...

But that might be too presumptuous. Trying to find patterns to explain things in hindsight.

A Supplement to the Journey to the West in 1640 depicts a sort of time travel to the past. But that's actually a dream so it's questionable if it counts. Also, Memoirs of the Twentieth Century was written in 1733 and depicted someone getting written messages from the future. So despite these playing with the idea of time travel in some ways, neither directly involve actually visiting or altering the past.

Maybe the relationship between time travel and the photo is coincidental. These later time travel stories might be evolutions of those mentioned above. (But probably not since I doubt A Supplement or the Journey to the West was that well known around the world, and Memoirs of the Twentieth Century had most copies destroyed.)

I like the photograph theory at least, but I'm not certain.

Maybe our concept of time changed because of how fast advancements were happening?

It's not that the world was static before the last few hundred years, but it's been changing faster than ever.

If someone writes a story set in the 1400s, it's not going to be that different of a world from one set in the 1300s. At least on a technological level.

In comparison, almost every few decades in recent history have been world-changing. Compare the 2010s to the 1980s. Compare the 80s to the 50s. The 50s to the 20s. The 20s to the 1890s.

It appears that the rate the world has changed has radically increased. This could then affect people's perceptions of this time.(But then, maybe that observation is just bias itself, a result of knowing certain eras better because they're more recent and we have pictures and videos from those time periods.)

Maybe this caused people to become more nostalgic for these lost eras? Eras they had personally lived through, and watched as the world changed?

No... this doesn't sit right with me either...

Even if technological advancement caused humans to become more nostalgic for past eras, that's not the only thing nostalgia should exist for, right?

What about nostalgia for kingdoms who were overthrown? For cities lost to natural disasters? To simpler times with loved ones lost?

Not all nostalgia should be tied to technology and advancement. Some should be more personal.

Back To The Future isn't about huge technological difference between the time periods. Not really. It's more a story about a kid learning about his parents and who they used to be, and making them into new people. The differences between eras are really just dressing on this personal story about Marty's relationship with his family.

And then you have Groundhog Day stories which are just... one day on repeat. These don't explore the speculative or historical side of time travel AT ALL.

Not to mention prophecy was a thing. People could always conceptualize getting information from the future. But physical objects and beings traveling to the past is unheard of.

Prophecy is Another Oddity

Almost every culture has stories involving precognition. There's always been interaction FROM the future.

But no time travelers anywhere. No spirits going back to the past. No gods. Not even objects until Memoirs of the Twentieth Century. So information can time travel in mythology, but literally nothing else can.

Despite time travel not existing in any fiction ever prior to the past couple hundred years, it's always been assumed by every culture on Earth that the future was something that people could just see.

In today's world with our understanding of physics, prophecy would only make sense as a form of time travel. Much like how light is just particles bouncing off of things and hitting us in the eyes, information about the future would need to be coming from the future. (Or be calculated somehow by understanding all the variables that could lead to that outcome in a predeterministic way.) But I don't think most ancient people saw it that way. And thus, never made the leap from information traveling back through time to entities and physical things traveling back through time.

#time travel #prophecy #precognition #writeblr #writblr #writing #fiction #mythology #legends #legend #myths #history #world history #anthropology #time

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I admire how open you are with your journey back to Islam mashallah tabarkuallah but I mean how do you do it? What motivates you to share your story with others, I know on your anon post you from a while ago you said it’s not something you hide. Why? (I don’t mean this from a place of judgement at all!!!!!!!!! I respect you a lot for it but I just kind of am wondering you know?)

You're all good, don't worry! Wow this is such an Interesting question and I thought about it all day but I wanted to wait until I had a bit of time to sit down and think it through!

I think to understand my motive(?) you would need to understand the islamic environment I was raised in. A part of the reason I had left the religion in the first place was because of how much of an imposter I felt. The environment around me shamed any form of mistep or waver in faith. It felt suffocating to a young me? As someone with such little islamic knowledge at the time, I felt as though I could not keep up with my peers and all of that culminated into me feeling shameful about my imaan and it discouraged me from getting closer to God, especially as a young girl living in the west.

I swear if I had just heard from one person in my community or in that masjid tell me I wasn't doomed for hell or irredeemable as a muslim because I couldn't understand certain concepts in Islam I wouldn't have felt so isolated with my questions and uncertainty.

So when I had started a halaqa in my masjid now specifically meant for middle school girls, I wanted to put an emphasis on the kind of space it was and I found it helped best to communicate to them struggles I went through doing those times but to also do my best to help supplement it with tools and ways to navigate their lives as teenage girls living in America. I do it for them I guess? I don't go into extensive detail because there is a limit to exposing your sins and it doing the opposite of what I hope to do, there is a balance to be struck.

It also carried into my work with the youth and events at the masjid. Bringing that perspective there as well. There is a lack of accessibility I think to masjid events for people who don't have as much extensive islamic knowledge and that barrier can deter them. Like not everyone knows what Ibadah might mean for example, so now in a khatira we should define what those words mean. Things like that.

So thats where I first ever opened up having a not so strong connection to my faith, in my halaqa and so then it was like yeah alright. So I guess I do it because of that. In my orginal ask post I said I share it when I think it would be helpful so yeah. I am not sure if this quite answered your question anon? I should note, I am pretty open with certain things about me, and this is one of them - I don't mind talking about things like this so yeah

#gosh guys should I start putting warnings at the top of my posts for when they are excessively long lol #anon I am so sorry I don't even know if I answered the question correctly uhhm..#but yeah!#muslim blogging #m's mind #Reconnecting with allah

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loyaltykask · 5 months

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SUN PARAMITA!!

I made Paramita, the first born, off Hero is Back 2015 Wukong. I thought that HiB Wukong gave off great Big Brother vibes.

Paramita is based off (fire) and (fire) when it comes to the 5 elements and the 8 trigrams. He is Red and I've made him to look nearly identical to Wukong. He has a deep Copper fur but he has a long wavy main that reaches beyond his waist. He's a BUFF dude, and is def the warrior of the family. He takes his whole as being the first prince very seriously and considers himself the most responsible of his siblings, taking on the most royal duties so that his younger sibs could enjoy themselves.

As a young kid he really looked up to his father and still does but he does come off as a ruler follower and a bit more intense than needed. He wanted to grow up to be just like Wukong even when he wasn't sure what that included. He puts his dad on a pedestal which strains their relationship as he wants to be like his dad but also resets how he is never going to be his own individual person but always "the monkey king's son." And what makes it worse he feels guilty for his resentment because he loves his dad and his dad loves him so he chooses to never talk about his feelings and just buries them until perhaps a very emotional confrontation.

He has a self-sacrificing nature that he feels he has to be perfect for the family. As the oldest (despite them all being the same age) he felt he needed to be the responsible one and therefore took on his training in combat the most seriously. He tries desperately to give all a laid-back attitude to imitate his dad but honestly, he is an anxious mess one minor inconvenience away from a breakdown.

He's a sweet boy that is too mature for his age and grew up too fast. Wukong worries about him a lot as he wants his boy to feel comfortable to be himself. Also he looks up to Shancai a lot because while his siblings see Paramita as the oldest, Paramita sees Red Boy as his own big sibling that he can rely on.

Nature - Fire, Glow 火 Huǒ

Trigram Line - ☲ 101

Obtained Images - 中虛 Hollow Middle

Personality - Sovereignty

Personality 性 - the Clinging, radiance

Stage/ state - clinging, clarity, adaptable

Action - Love

Attribute - light-giving, humane "dependence"

Meaning 意義麗 - Rapid movement, radiance, the sun, pulsing motion, radiance, the luminaries

Stone - Ruby

Flower - Crimson

Chinese Zodiac - Snake

Animal - 雉 pheasant

Planet - Mars

Houtian Bagua's Solstices and Equinoxes - Summer Equinox Vermillion Bird

#jttw #journey to the west #jtts #supplement journey to the west #sjttw #journey to the south #paramita #sun wukong #supplement to the journey to the west #monkey king #jttw au #su paramita

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