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#this is NOT in comparison to another ship btw
rayadraws · 1 year
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Some of the ways we are beyond blessed as SGS (saigenos/genosai) shippers:
- Thousands of fanart
- Thousands of fanfic
- A wide variety of fan comics/doujins
- Cute merch, both official and fanmade
- Bi-yearly fan conventions in Japan. Previously nendoroid fans would meet up and have doll picnics and take pictures of their nendos and make SGS themed foods
- A video of Genos' VA saying (in Genos' voice) "I love you Saitama-sensei!"
- An official drama CD where Saitama and Genos play out their version of Romeo and Juliet
- A series of drawings by Murata with Saitama and Genos in a cinderella AU, with Saitama as the prince and Genos as cinderella
- Murata making comments during his livestreams that he knows about the shipping and subtly joking about it. Murata commenting and RTing from openly shippy SGS accounts
- ONE making a point of saying he has no problem with shipping of his characters
- The English VAs tweeting about how they ship it too, joking about them going on a date etc. Saitama's VA signing a fan's print with "I ship it too"
- The Japanese VAs using body language and phrases with double meanings like "fine, I'll go out with you" during the opm festival. Genos' VA being asked to pose the Figmas and putting Genos in Saitama's arms
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so in an attempt to actually use positive thinking, anytime i fuck up and my brain reacts as if ive cause a minor apocalyptic event, i compare my fuck up to the 4 minute fuck up committed by the crew of the uss william d porter.
and only today, as i was having to explain what happened to my mom when i was explaining the whole comparison thing, did i realise that most people dont know about it and ive decided that needs to change because its objectively hilarious.
...which is a weird thing to say about an event that occured on a warship in 1943, specifically november 14th.
see the uss william d porter was a fletcher-class destroyer but you dont need to know what that means, just that she had guns that went bang bang and that she was escorting another ship, the uss iowa, to cairo.
while they were on their way there, they performed some gun trials like testing the anti-aircraft guns or the torpedos. and while they were running a torpedo drill, the crew of the porter managed to fire a live torpedo straight at the iowa which you know, in terms of a list of things to do while escorting a ship, shooting a torpedo at them is not on that list.
especially if the president of the united states is on board.
yeah so fdr was on board and the gun trials were actually his idea, and part of the trials was that they were conducted under radio silence.
and that means the crew of the porter couldnt just call the iowa to be like "move out the way, we accidentally shot a torpedo at you."
but they did have signal lamps and you know, the signalman on board was trained to signal this exact kind of message.
...and uh never mind, the signalman did manage to successfully tell the iowa that a torpedo was coming toward them but wasnt as successful when it came to the direction the torpedo was coming from.
not all hope is lost though because the signalman could still use the signal lamp to correct his previous mistake and-, never mind, he announced that the porter was reversing, which she wasnt.
yeah so at catastrophic mistake number 3, they broke radio silence to warn the iowa and she managed to turn out of the way just in time which meant no one got hurt. and even though the inquiry into the incident led to chief torpedoman (fantastic job title btw) lawton dawson being sentences to hard labour, fdr intervened and waved away his sentence, saying it was all an accident.
but yeah, so thats my new measure for "how much did i really fuck up?" and when i compared accidentally picking up a pencil case without a tag on it in wilko, turns out it was a very minor fuck-up. yes, the cashier had to ask another worker to grab a duplicate so they could scan the barcode, but i didnt nearly kill the president during wartime via accidental friendly fire
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lookinghalfacorpse · 6 months
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You don't have to respond to this one, but @ your last tags on the found family trope post, I can't say I haven't been curious if anything like that was ever the case. You've been so careful in painting everyone's relationship to be on trust and healthy reliance on one another in times of need, and Techno + Dream definitely have something more intimate and close going on (which I deeply appreciate btw- I couldn't bear it if someone tried to stick itwall!Dream as a brother to Techno, or put him in alongside Wilbur as a son figure to Phil :shudders:), so I'm VERY curious how detailed those thoughts have gotten at any point in time /lh /but genuine
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(talking about my semi-cursed tags on this post)
yes i can talk about this all day !! i think the dynamic that doomsday trio brings is fascinating, and i don't blame those who see it as a nuclear family dynamic because i think the comparison does work in some places, but it's more complicated than that. i touched on it (in vaguely poetic terms) in this post, but i can give more detail here.
c!philza is an old man and an experienced father, and his instinct as a guardian is strong. this is the closest we get to a nuclear family format in itwall; phil definitely calls on some of his skills as a father when he helps dream, but it's a bit more complex than that. phil recognizes that dream is an adult in human years and doesn't need to be babied (hell, he doesn't even baby Wilbur, his own son who's around the same age!). dream needs care, he needs a mentor, and he needs a better self-preservation instinct before he kills himself. i think their relationship is closer to ancient grecian mentorship than fatherhood/sonhood, the only difference is that the mentee is on death's door for a while and needs some extra attention. phil sees himself in dream, dream sees phil as someone he might like to be, and there's a level of mutual respect there.
i also think that techno and dream have a sense of brotherhood, but in the same way that two athletic teammates have a brotherhood. they have a long history of trust between them, with room for playfulness and teasing. there's a lack of touch aversion (which is HUGE for dream), and dream initiates more of their touches (as opposed to phil, where he tends to be more submissive) (i'm thinkin about ch 12 & ch 19).
and, of course, techno & phil have a complicated relationship of their own. i'm always annoyed by headcanons that techno is phil's son-- we see plenty of interactions where they mutually worry over each other and care for each other. the will is Not written like a boy talking to his father. these two are lifelong partners, and that letter is written to someone who techno knows will understand him and trusts to carry out the more sentimental, intangible tasks, like talking to niki and ranboo, with very little instruction.
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highly oversimplified but this is the idea. Techno and dream have similar relationships with phil but it's not really sonhood. all built on trust. they've proven to each other that they will keep each other safe.
and honestly.. none of those relationships would have to exclude sex or intimacy. equals/partners can have sex. comrades can have sex. mentors/mentees can have sex (i think people feel weird about this one, but again: think Ancient Grecian). i have Quite A Few scenes in my head about how their sexual relationships might work (especially in the early days when dream isn't feeling good...). i guess in light of everyone being more open about shipping i would consider writing them, i'd just keep them here instead of ao3.
i think both phil and techno consider dream to be heartstoppingly lovely. i think dream would love to be loved. i think phil&techno and techno&dream may have had some encounters Before the start of itwall, so it would just be a matter of tying it all together.
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gardensnakie · 29 days
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uh questin for u
what is the appeal of like cannibalism ship stuff
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that whole kinda thing of romantic cannibalism
it kinda confuse me i stoopid and not see how it romantic
(these are actual questions btw not me hating)
Hm, I'm not really sure, I think it's cause it can be taken in so many meanings, usually a desperate form a desire or a way to be as intimate and close to someone as humanly possible. It's usually in a horrific sense, personally I take inspiration from medias like The Summer Hikaru Died where a shape-shifting creature is alright with having a hand inside their chest for example
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It's not cannibalism, but I think it still falls under the strange extreme of closeness
Another inspiration is this short comic in an omori au (red thread au I believe) that's surrounds Aubrey and Basil, who are romantically involved, (aubrey is a werewolf and basil plays the red riding hood; im pretty sure i hope im not wrong) talking about how much one loves the other
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Uhhh... I'm not sure, I guess I just like the horror aspect and I can be detailed in that 'so desperate, so in love with you that it's selfish' theme
Random side thing I thought, it's kinda like an exaggerated version of cuteness aggression, definitely an extreme comparison tho. Like thinking a loved one is so perfect so precious that something about them should be ruined completely- definitely an unhealthy show of love but I like to explore that idea
Non-human characters is an easier way to use cannibalism as a metaphor for desire- uhhh, I might have missed some points but I'm rambling and I'm still in a relative's apartment so I'm trying to be discreet but hope this has some explanation I'm sorry (╥ - ╥)
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Imma rant about Ichigo and Orihime cuz your blog has waken a outrageous fire in me!! And rightfully so! I agree with literally everything you said(btw Karin and hitsugaya are endgame for me too🤭🤭)
Ichihime makes literal sense and it genuinely sucks as a ship and i don't get why the shippers are satisfied with the results. I asked my friend who he wanted to be endgame and answered Ichigo and Orihime cuz they are a better fit. LITERALLY HOW?!! I didn't go psycho on him cuz if Ichigo and Rukia ain't your cup of tea then fine. But why are people answers automatically always Ichihime?? Is it cuz they are canon??? Where the hell was the build-up for it then?! It is nothing compare to ichigo/rukia or orihime with tatsuki/uryu. Idk if Kubo was trying to punk us by pairing them up or not. I feel like he didn't plan our their relationship properly! People say it was obvious from the beginning that ichigo likes her back but i sure as hell didn't see it! Maybe i'm just salty and refused to see the signs cuz Ichiruki is the best ship( and i had a crush on ichigo since forever soooo... 😖😖) ?? I've always been a rukia and ichigo fan rather cuz they actually had the chemistry and insane connection. I'm so mad that they weren't endgame. My girl Rukia was elite why didn't Ichigo went for her and vice versa?? Don't get me started on the poems, the speechs, the way ichigo always and always thinks of rukia. Like the ingredients for the cake was perfect, why the hell would you put gasoline in there💀💀
Some people say that cuz the show is shounen and not a romance, i shouldn't be upset about ichihime ending up together and not be mad of lack of their romance. I'm not expecting ichigo and orihime to have some epic EPIC love story or anything just make it more sense for ME at least. If Ichihime was some side-ship then i wouldn't care as much, but this is the MC of the show i want to see something greater than what we received! If they were to have a love story(ya know a real one) then they should've played it out like in Fruits basket
Ichigo and orihime actually remind me alot of kyo and tohru from fruits basket. And they're all very similar to think about it! Ichigo and Kyo: the grumpy orange haired protecters that have a heart of gold. Orihime and Tohru: the loveable sunshine character that are super traumatized but still manage to keep smiling. The only difference is that Kyo and Tohru actually have the emotional moments and had the chemistry and ya know they actually TALKED and were ACTUAL FRIENDS(as in kyo didn't treat tohru like a acquaintance) before dating. But since Orihime is so much like Ichigo's dead mom, their relationship would've been like Yuki and Tohru. I know the comparison might be dumb to do cuz they are very different anime and different genre but still!! Excuse me for caring so much about that my fav ain't canon. Yes this is a shounen anime but they could've at least squeezed in a bit of the love story of the mc to show they actually care about it. The MC of the show has a better and stronger bond with his bestie than his own wife. Like how is my girl Orihime not bothered by it?! Should've end up Tatsuku i swear. I mean they're literally Nana and Hachi!! 🍓🐶✨
I feel like orihime just exist to be his love interest and that's it! Girl had the potential to be a great character that ain't always there to be the love interest. Her becoming a housewife was insulting cuz what do you mean she ain't a robot destroying a city (i can't remember that scene from the earlier seasons but something in between those lines🤣) I do like Orihime enough but not that much cuz it's Ichigo this and Ichigo that. Like girl i get it. I wanted(and still do) him too but don't settle for being the second choice) HOMEGIRL YOU HAVE OTHER LUCKY DUCKS THAT WANNA BE WITH YOU!!
And another thing: I read somewhere that: just cuz Uryu had a crush Orihime that, that doesn't mean that Orihime should be together with him.... Okay then why can't that also imply to Ichigo and Orihime?? Like why just cuz "She'll fall for him in every lifetime" doesn't mean that he has to do the same too!! Rukia is already the queen of his heart mind you
BUT ANYWAYS!! It's a shounen after all so i shouldn't be expecting the mc to have a well-written love story and not to have high hopes of the MC love interest to be something more than that. But whatever at the end of the day they're CANON and have a kid together so all i can do is cry about it and live in fanfiction.
Ahem, I'm done with my rant thank you 😌 (And yes anti-IchiRuki fans I'll still be salty in my 40s cuz of the ending and I will never shut up about it just cuz they have canonically have kids)
No worries, anon! You've come to the right place! Let it all out~
Not surprised your male friend would choose Ori. Typical. For dudes like him, her appearance, superficial crush on Ichigo, & the word "canon" being slapped on are enough for them, despite there not being any actual chemistry between IH. It is also a common trope in other manga/anime, so they convince themselves that it was meant to happen, but it doesn't mean it makes sense for every story, especially not in Bleach's case; it doesn't make narrative sense if they actually looked into it.
(Canon ≠ good. Just look up what went wrong in 'How I Met Your Mother' or even 'Game Of Thrones' S8).
(While on the subject, since Rukia is a much better written character than Ori, if she had a body like Ori's, & Ori like Rukia's, even less dudes would care about IH 🫢, since they never even have good arguments in favor of it that aren't the 3 things I mentioned already up top).
Ichigo & Rukia had the most chemistry in the entire manga/anime, & it baffles me when people didn't/don't (wanna) see it. I went into Bleach almost blind when I first started watching it & IR really stood out. Their bond is right in your face, playing along the border between platonic & romantic, making you wonder what exactly it is, but knowing they aren't just mere friends. In the manga, I was constantly awed & amused by how borderline romantic it came off as, despite having already watched the anime (which did not do the manga justice in many ways; and then antis claim IR was mostly anime-based, PLEASE 🙄). Kubo really wasn't playing when it came to these 2. What a freakin' troll.
Haven't watched Fruits Basket, but I can see what you mean. Grumpy & Sunshine is a fun trope, however, as you said, IH just didn't have what it takes. If Kubo had wanted to, he could have properly developed IH at some points in the manga, such as the Fullbring arc, & it wouldn't have to be anything big, as Bleach is not a romance. He could have opened the arc with those 2 already going out, like them holding hands as they head to school or something, maybe showing some flashbacks of them talking things out, comforting each other since HM to show how they got together. Instead, in those 17 months since Ichigo lost his powers & contact with Rukia, you're telling me Kubo couldn't make IH bond? Instead, Ori's still pathetically pining after him while Ichigo is still thinking of, longing for, Rukia! How am I supposed to believe IH was meant to be endgame?!
Orihime had more chemistry with other people than the man she ended up with 💀. I personally ship her with 2 other men (Ishida & Ulquiorra). She was different with them. One selflessly cared for her, had her at the forefront of his mind in her own rescue arc (unlike Ichigo), while the other challenged her, found her fascinating & wanted to learn more... Not to mention they both protected her from Ichigo a couple times in the HM arc.
She really did have potential to be a great character but it all kept going down the drain, never achieved her dreams nor goals. She kept regressing as the story went on, especially when it came to Ichigo. She was never able to encourage him nor fully support him & was usually a complete damsel in his presence (he even seemed annoyed by her during the Ywach fight, which mind u, she was only there cuz there was no one else left & Ichigo had no choice?). She was more interesting whenever she wasn't around him. All her best moments were when she wasn't thinking about him. Saving Tatsuki? Bonding with Ishida in SS, standing in front of him to protect him in the Fullbring arc? Bonding with Ulquiorra (the only good thing she did the whole HM arc)? She could've done more in HM but didn't. In TYBW, she didn't do anything special, couldn't even encourage Ichigo & was treated like a ragdoll by Ywach. This is how Kubo wanted us to remember her. She was mostly reduced to fanservice by the end (and she's still not as popular as Matsumoto or Yoruichi in that department 💀). I sometimes think he didn't like her all that much with how he treated her character...
While watching the anime, I seriously had been hoping she'd get over Ichigo in the SS arc when she wistfully said Rukia was a very special person to him who changed his world (oh, boy, was I in for disappointment). Right off the bat, there was nothing interesting/exciting about her interactions with Ichigo (I was shipping her with Ishida by this point). He was just so blasé with her, I almost felt bad for her & it only kept getting worse. I then hoped she'd finally get over him after the traumatic experience at the dome in HM, but her ongoing silly crush made my eyes roll & lose hope in it. LIKE GIRL, HE'S HUNG UP ON ANOTHER GIRL, & U SHOULD'VE STOPPED PUTTING HIM ON A PEDESTAL BY NOW; HE'S NO PRINCE CHARMING & ESPECIALLY NOT FOR U WHEN HE BARELY GAVE U A SECOND THOUGHT IN UR OWN RESCUE ARC & ALMOST GOT U KILLED LIKE 3 TIMES & U HAD TO GET SAVED BY ULQUIORRA & ISHIDA, LIKE-
Orihime doesn't have anything in common with Masaki other than maybe their appearance (which imo, Masaki looks more like short-haired Matsumoto anyway?). Besides the cheerful part, their personalities are very different. Masaki was more like Rukia: brave, strong, selfless, teasing & annoying Isshin/Ichigo, etc... IR has actual dynamic parallels with IsshiMasa in the narrative... Kubo just copied IR moments, especially considering he wrote as he went... So, don't be fooled by those morons who go by appearance alone & even those weird lines in one of the novels (Oedipus complex anyone?) instead of the legitimate parallels between IR & IM shown in the manga, such as these:
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What was going thru Kubo's head if he supposedly "intended" for IH to happen? Ichigo & Ori had more chemistry with other characters than with each other. Kubo went about this all wrong. Bleach not being a romance is no excuse for shoddily pairing up characters in the end. In a few scenes scattered throughout the manga, he could've implied them. Every time they interacted, their relationship should've progressed somehow. And he actually did this with IchiRuki. (In regards to Naruto, for example, Kishimoto at least admitted he didn't put enough effort into his ships by saying romance was not his forte & he's not good at writing female characters, but at least most of the ships made sense & esp NaruHina had actual good moments scattered throughout the manga...).
Sigh, I've said this before, but why can't more battle shounens be like Fairy Tail when it comes to developing the ships throughout the story? There'd be less drama. Even Gintama did a better job at developing the main ships, lol, that if they became canon, hardly anyone would've been surprised (they were somewhat implied if u squint, tho 🤪).
There are theories Kubo wanted to spite Shounen Jump for their treatment over the years so he ended things this way (and maybe to spite the fans too, since his manga sales had been on the decline for years). Ever heard of the "choosing unhappiness" theories? Basically, remember that Ywach said he'd come back at Ichigo's happiest moment? Well, he didn't come back at Ichigo's wedding with Ori, not even at the birth of his son. He came back when Ichigo reunited with RUKIA after 10 years.
So what could this be telling us? That Ichigo chose to be unhappy by not getting with the one person who made him the happiest. Rukia gave him that push by choosing unhappiness first (since she knew Ichigo couldn't make the first attempt to) & married Renji, who in turn, also gave Ichigo that push to go for Ori. IR chose unhappiness to defeat Ywach. Could this actually be what Urahara meant when he said he'd leave everything to "Kurosaki-san & Kuchiki-san" after his defeat in TYBW?! (we deserved the IR tag-team we never got in the final fight, screw Kubo)
One could also say his friends chose unhappiness to help too? Ishida becoming a doctor he'd never expressed interest in & seeming isolated from the friend group (maybe not agreeing with the farce they're all in), Chad becoming a boxer instead of using his fists to protect, Ori marrying a man who doesn't love her & she knows never will, Renji marrying a woman who doesn't love him & never will (and whom I think he doesn't love either? My view on that here)... Isshin is nowhere in sight, could it be he also doesn't wanna be a part of this farce in which his own son chose to marry a woman he doesn't love?
Still, everything about this ending is so wrong, makes no sense, a bunch of retcons too. Heck, remember the rebuilding of Sokyoku Hill in SS? Made Ichigo destroying it meaningless 🙄.
Anyway, I didn't mean for this post to be too long. There's so much to rant about lol. There's also so much to make fun of 👀. As I said in this post, IH was never popular & never will be. Kubo himself can't bring himself to give them content & his affiliates (like Shounen Jump, Studio Pierrot, etc.) can't be bothered either, as IH doesn't sell. Canon for almost 10 years & still no official couple/family arts nor merch 😂. If they end up getting thrown a bone in the future, the fact it took them that long would still be laughable.
In the end, it's best to ignore canon, its fans, & engage with what you like. It also doesn't hurt to sometimes make fun of Bleach's failures~ Kubo has made it so easy, can you blame us? 🤷‍♀️
Also, glad u like HitsuKarin as well 🤭. Would you believe it's my #1 Bleach OTP? I had brainrot for it a few years ago, like I literally scoured almost every bit of content that I could find, & while it's died down, I just know that if Kubo &/or his affiliates were to feed us HK content now, I'd eat it up like a starving dog-
Sorry for the late reply, anon! 😓 Been having brainrot for a different fandom, if u can guess
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Propaganda:
Hajime and Nagito: I understand that it’s popular and I don’t want to hurt the feelings of those who ship it, because I understand why it has appeal, but there’s a lot of evidence why it’s at the very least one sidedly obsessive. Komaeda idolizes Hajime and his “talent” to a degree that consistently makes Hajime uncomfortable, and as soon as Hajime is revealed to not have any talent, Komaeda is quick to berate him and emphasize his worthlessness in comparison to those who have talent. Then after Hajime is revealed to have every single talent imaginable, Komaeda goes right back to idolizing him. The majority of the internal dialogue when the player choose s for Hajime to interact with Komaeda is Hajime saying things along the lines of how uncomfortable Komaeda makes him and how scared he is of him.
Louis and Lestat: In the original book Lestat literally turns a 5 year old little girl into a vampire to trap Louis in their loveless, abusive relationship, because he knows Louis will worry about Lestat (whom Louis now recognizes as a remorseless monster who sees humans as nothing but food) using this child (Claudia) as a tool and creating the most evil and messed up surrogate child of all time. (He was right, btw, bc she grows into a woman trapped forever in a child's body and hates them both for it. but this isn't about Claudia.)
In the TV series, Lestat is a white devil offering aid, sympathy, and love to a gay, closeted black man in the 1900s. He offers him company, capital, a friend who sees him as an 'equal' Once he turns him into a vampire, his desire to possess and control Louis becomes apparent. He displays TEXTBOOK narcissistic and abusive partner behaviors, apologies for how awful he was, promises to change, makes romantic gestures to try and smooth things over. They start having an 'open relationship' where Lestat loses it over Louis taking advantage of being able to see other people. Lestat writes a love song for him and sends Louis a recording sung by the woman he's having an affair with; Louis confronts him at the singer's apartment and they have angry sex in her bed.
Late in the TV series, they get in another fight, and Lestat literally drops Louis out of the sky and leaves him paralyzed, with Claudia (in this adaptation, a young woman who is more like a sister/mother to Louis) to nurse him back to health and re-teach him how to walk. Louis still takes him back.
In both the book and the TV series, Claudia convinces Louis that the only way they can be free is to kill Lestat. In both, they poison him, slit his throat, and dump his body in a swamp. In the TV version, Louis sobs over Lestat's dead body, refusing to allow Claudia to burn him and ensure he can't come back from it. (Spoilers: he gets better. and he's pissed about it! He follows them to Europe.) Their gay divorce drama eventually results in the destruction of an entire enclave of over 400 vampires in Paris and the death of their surrogate daughter.
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isalisewrites · 2 months
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ik that this like a really juvenile reason that people should ship tomarrymort, but like: harry is gryffindor and has green eyes, while tom/voldemort is slytherin and has red eyes. they're literally complements of each other. the green and the red eyes, the houses.
it's like JKR (which, btw, fuck her) made them soulmates without ever realising she did it.
Nah, I don't think it's juvenile. I think you're brilliant in making that comparison. I think it's a little detail to point out. Though, from my understanding, Tom didn't acquire red eyes until after he began to create horcruxes.
Nonetheless, it's just yet another little detail on top of countless others that confirms just how significant a pairing Tom/Voldemort and Harry are and that no other villain/hero in other fandoms has been able to to top, in my humble opinion. I have come up with original novels in the hopes of capturing the essence of Tomarry or Harrymort, but I have yet to really be able to do it.
They are polar opposites with similar backgrounds. Harry housed Voldemort's soul, making him a literal soulmate. They are the ultimate Ying and Yang, enemies to lovers.
Honestly, it's not that hard to write a convincing Tomarry fic. There are many redeemable qualities to Tom.
But Voldemort? He's a hard nut to crack. This is why I love Harrymort fics, the ones where they BOTH fall in love and there isn't a power imbalance. (Though, those are good, too) If you can get these ultimate enemies to fall in love, I feel like I have a little more hope in the world. That's why I read these fics.
I want to see love conquer the impossible.
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thestobingirlie · 6 months
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To answer your Byler question: it’s about the slow burn of it all and about the audience that the story will reach. I don’t really know what you mean by “with gay rep the way it is now” because the state of gay rep rn is just two characters getting together after a few episodes of no buildup. Regardless of Will and Mike being white (which I’m going to assume is what you’re getting at), there are very few modern gay stories out there that spend this long on a slow build and the careful construction of a seasons-long sexuality arc. That is what would make Byler so unique if it ever becomes canon, compounded by the fact that ST is the most mainstream of mainstream shows. This isn’t Heartstopper or Schitt’s Creek or another gay show whose audience is limited because it’s targeted specifically to gay people — Everyone and their mother watches it, and that means that everyone will end up witnessing Byler’s story if it happens. That is what would make this special and groundbreaking. 
Of course, no one should be dismissing the importance of Robin as a character on her own, and lesbophobes claiming that Robin and Vickie mean nothing is unfair, but your point about it being the other way around (aka Byler meaning nothing Vickie and Robin as a couple) doesn’t make any sense, as Rovickie has had barely had 5 minutes of screen time together compared to the way Byler has been built up since S1. Even Robin and Nancy got more screen time than them, hence Rovickie’s complete lack of popularity. Stranger Things had the opportunity to make Vickie important in s4 and chose not to do it. It’s no different than any other show, where as you said, the wlw couple is just in the background. It’s nice that ST included a love interest for Robin, but it would have been more meaningful if she was actually a character in her own right. 
(And Robin and Vickie are also white, btw.) 
okay.
first, i would like you to watch more gay shows, because from the sounds of it you are not very well versed. but that’s okay!
second, i mentioned will and mike are white because while there are a lot of white mlm ships around nowadays, that number obviously drops with gay characters of colour, and i wanted to be clear i was taking that into consideration.
third, and i presume this is where our opinions majorly differ, i don’t think will’s sexuality arc has been handled as well as it could have been. and i think if the majority of the audience is unable to recognise that mike is going through a sexuality arc, then byler won’t be recognised as a slowburn anyway.
fourth, other shows have been popular and included gay characters and couples. and people are already calling stranger things a “gay show” because they have one lesbian and one gay character. though i think it’s very sweet that you think people, at the bare minimum, watching byler happen will make byler groundbreaking. a ship isn’t groundbreaking just because it’s been seen by a certain amount of people.
now, you seem… riled by my comparison of rockie to byler lmao. i think you misunderstood my tags. so i suppose there’s a few things to address with this too lol.
so. i very very much so doubt byler has been built from s1, because the duffers didn’t plan past s1. we were never going to see those characters again. the duffers are largely making this shit up as they go along.
a lot of bylers i’ve seen on tumblr seem to have this… obsession with making stranger things the mike and will show, and it just isn’t. and i think they’re doing a disservice to the characters and the ship by imagining this importance.
and i don’t think rockie not having a main part is a bad thing. i want my gay characters to exist past their sexuality. rockie isn’t groundbreaking! so many ships have come before it lmao. but it doesn’t need to be groundbreaking. i’m okay with vickie being introduced this season as her love interest, and robin having a life and arc outside of vickie. that’s how most side romances go. that’s what happened with dustin and suzie! if vickie receives no time at all in s5 and rockie end up together off screen, then yes, obviously i’ll be annoyed at the lack of time given to them. but that’s a problem for future me.
my point was rockie having their moment, and dating, and us watching it throughout s5 would mean more to me than byler happening. not that everyone shouldn’t care about byler rep lmao.
(and i know rockie are white, babe, but wlw shows are being cancelled regardless of if they’re both white)
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thank you @anincompletelist for the tag on another new (to me) game ✨ you’re a gem.
how many works do you have on ao3?
eight!
what's your total ao3 word count?
142,413
what fandoms do you write for?
red, white and royal blue
top five fics by kudos:
Unsurprisingly, it’s the five parts of Alex’s POV of The Consequences. Actually surprisingly, this could double as one of the LEAST ideal reading orders possible, which is so fun tbh.
No Consequences (8.7k, E, Part 1) The Wait Before the Fall (57.5k, E, Part 5) Hope is a Five Alarm Fire (11.7k, E, Part 2) The Throne He Deserves (24.9k, E, Part 4) The Cosmos in His Palms (16.7k, E, Part 3)
do you respond to comments?
yes! people are always saying the loveliest things in there, I have to weep sentimentally back at them in return. it’s the circle of life.
what is the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending?
is it weird to pick your pwp as having the angstiest ending?? because my instinct is to say The Very Portrait of Temptation, just because it’s the most open-ended.
what's the fic you wrote with the happiest ending?
I’ve gotta say The Wait Before the Fall. Even if picking the only actual ending feels like a convenient loophole.
do you get hate on fics?
I have been very lucky in that everyone has been very lovely, which is a relief because I am not built for the internet.
do you write smut?
I am but a humble porn peddler who dreamed too big.
craziest crossover:
never done a crossover, only a fusion of rwrb + the m&g universe as a vehicle to, you guessed it, peddle porn.
have you ever had a fic stolen?
not to my knowledge!
have you ever had a fic translated?
nope!
have you ever co-written a fic before?
I have not! but it seems like fun!
all time favorite ship?
I think firstprince is the winner here in that they actually got me to finish (and post!) something. A feat. 🤍
what's a wip you want to finish but doubt you ever will?
Oof. i pretend I do not see anything stashed in the Anchor Vault at current. We’ll go with that.
what are your writing strengths?
i always try to set a scene to be so immersive that anyone reading feels like they’re seeing it just as clearly as I am — and its so gratifying anytime someone tells me I felt like I was right there with them. this also applies to what I refer to as my 4K porn visions. I also received such a touching compliment for my dialogue recently (if you’re seeing this, i adore you btw) so I’ll put that here too.
what are your writing weaknesses?
I have never been succinct in my life so I do not end sentences rationally (@celeritas2997 can attest to the No Consequences one-breath challenge). I think sometimes I use too many words for things, but then I don’t cut any of them and add more. I’m also bad at math, though that’s more of a tangential personal flaw. also, generating an actual plot.
thoughts on dialogue in another language?
I love this, especially when you have multilingual characters, but I would be way too worried about getting it wrong when I don’t speak the language.
first fandom you wrote in?
supernatural, lmao not that it ever saw the light of day!
favorite fic you've written:
I treat the entirety of The Consequences like my baby (which I foolishly cut into pieces because I don’t know anything about the internet or childcare) but I could not choose a favorite part of my baby and okay maybe this comparison is falling apart but you get it
I have been adrift in and out of here so I’m not sure who all has already played, but @firenati0n, you’re up!
and also, an open tag to all you lovely people who want to play! 🤍💫
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kafus · 4 months
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the idea that selfcest bad is so funny to me bc like there is no real life equivalent other than the rare autoromantic person, which is still not truly comparable to shipping a person with what is essentially a separate clone of themself, cloning does not exist in real life, i cannot kiss another physical version of me. there just is no comparison at all. the only argument i’ve ever seen is it’s like twins or siblings or something and it’s like, okay do you think incest is bad because of the family dynamic etc or do you think it’s bad because ew icky they look similar. what
anyways this discourse barely exists and i only saw it because of rinlen discussion. i just think it’s extremely funny as an autoromantic person. none of these bitches would survive the onceler fandom btw
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maddy-ferguson · 11 months
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Tbh i am gladly open to be labelled as a mike fan anti (not anti mike but anti as in how he is treated in fanon by his fans) bc it looks like they just crap on the entire Party to prop him up atp. I didnt even care abt it that much but the lucas and max thing is really irritating me especially when we know they also want mike to be max as in filling max's s4 role as a recycled role for s5. But they also want mike to be lucas in the sense that mike should be the one to save max? So simultaneously mike is supposedly max.2 with getting vecnad kidnapped or having to be saved but also he is taking lucas and even el's role in saving max. Yeah make it make sense lol. And as i said i wouldnt care abt this i am not even a byler shipper but when you go to the lum4x tag or max and lucas's tags and see pretty much most of their posts arent even abt them but abt other characters like mike and how mike is so similar to max or how mike is taking max and lucas's roles, it is just bad.
the max and mike are the same person bit is so tired like i get that tags are organizational so if you talk about max you're allowed to tag your post max mayfield but how long are we as a society gonna subject max fans/people whose main ship is lumax to the mike comparisons...do you know about the mike was supposed to be a vecna victim and vecna had to improvise that's why patrick's story is underdeveloped theory? it's so...it's comical in a flat-earther way and as i was saying yesterday, i would love to have that much faith in the writers and to think that EVERYTHING is intentional and that that wasn't just another shortcoming in how they write/don't write their black characters but...come on...it's like creative negationism lmao. and making them not giving the one black vecna victim a backstory as developed/compelling as the others about mike is just...kind of insane. like how deep in denial can you possibly be, it's not like they even have a stellar history that you'd be able to use to fight the allegations.
anyway. i'll ask the usual question, if you like mike that much why do you feel the need to do all that (that also meaning stuff like saying he was bullied for being gay btw)...is he not interesting enough as is? like you said, they do crap on the entire party to prop him up like oh my god. what would the heart of the party think of your behavior...
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alien-girl-21 · 1 year
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My tiktok has been feeding me aldoier/snf comparisons which makes me very excited because I love the dynamics of both duos a lot but I am scared to see what the shipping landscape is when I still only have vibes and very basic language... I've seen Spreen/Roier and Aldo/Roier, are there other popular ships out there involving mctrio (or anyone who was nice to the dream team in squid craft)?
Shipping in the hispanic community is very interesting lmao, we are very selective of ships, but we still have a lot, I'm putting some of the sips that I consider are the most popular/I like a lot:
Sproier (spreen and roier): I'm having brainrot about them for the last couple of weeks, search sproier on my blog and you'll see 👍🏻 (also the shipping only applies to their mc characters, mainly bc spreen isn't comfortable with irl shipping, but roier's demons are also....interesting)
Luckity (luzu and quackity): THIS IS JUST THEIR KARMALAND CHARACTERS BTW!!! Luzu is married irl and has called quackity his son, luckity just applies to their mc characters having the most devastating gay arc I've seen in an mc server, I recommend looking at @/bliski on twt/tiktok to look at their animatics, they're chef's kiss and give you an idea of their arcs
Rubckity (rubius and quackity): mc characters again!! These bitches gay, they die in every universe together, they are in gay love, they commit fraud together, they are awful for eachother, they're the best for eachother <3
Shadouckity (shadoune and quackity): during mc extremo we were granted with the blessing that was shadouckity, only mc relationship q has been in that ended well somehow, only thing is that quackity died before shadoune was able to propose to q
Rubegetta (rubius and vegetta): they are insane for eachother, they were going to get married, no they weren't, they had sex before one of their weddings, they betrayed eachother, they love eachother, they are unrequited and so dependant of their love at the same time. Also there is a hc that spreen is their son, I love it, I go insane for it <3
Wigetta (willyrex and vegetta): wigetta is like the og ship I was never into whatever tf they had going on that much, but I had a lot of friends that were, let's just say that they made multiple books under the wigetta name and vegetta moved across the world to live with willy 😃
Spruan (spreen and juan guarnizo): from what I know this ship is from tortillaland (another hispanic server) those bitches gay, spreen is a bear, juan is a witch, yeah 👍🏻
Sapockity (sapo peta and quackity) (name still dubious to me): sapo peta is a karmaland character, he fell in love with quackity on day one, quackity had a big fat crush on luzu so he had to tell him that he wasn't interested, they were still very much touchy-feely with eachother, but sapo peta was luckity shipper number 1, we wouldn't be anywhere without him <3
Farfadream (farfadox and dream): newer ship, literally farfadox and dream in sc2 and spreen's el cielo event, they are in gay love idc what anyone says
Also ik it's not technically a ship, but mariana being foolish's boyfriend and securing his green card <3
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gold-onthe-inside · 2 years
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The class dynamics of the Gilmore Girls fandom are so interesting to me. Specifically the way they view teenage Jess compared to adult Rory. There are a lot of people in this fandom who see Jess committing petty crime as a teenager (who was shipped off to another state all by himself) as the worst thing a person can do. But when Rory, an adult, steals a yacht all of a sudden there is empathy and they can understand her motivations. There are people who criticize this decision she made but they don't pin her entire morality to it the way people do with Jess. Is it that we spend more time with Rory? Or that she goes to "good" schools and comes from a "good" family? I have seen people give her more shit for dropping out of Yale than for committing a felony.
they way the town condemns jess for his ‘crimes’ is so funny and tragic at the same time. they have a town meeting about the chalk outline and police tape prank. he steals 500 baseballs which to me is hilarious especially when you consider that dean is probably in the baseball team. he gets in a fight with chuck presby and all we’re told about it is that chuck’s a jerk. oh, and he stole babette’s giant gnome, probably because he was bored and there was nothing to do in town.
the problem is, outside of rory and lorelai’s perception of him, we know nothing about jess. his relationship with dean seems on the surface to just be that he likes rory and doesn’t think she and dean are a good fit. but dean has a lot of red flags that even lorelai ignores. he’s clingy to the point of obsession. he likes the donna reed show. he doesn’t share a lot of the interests rory has. he gets pissed off that she’s prioritising college over him. in front of rory and lorelai, he’s the perfect boyfriend. but we know there’s another side to him, especially when he marries lindsey.
the point i’m trying to make is that jess only seems like a bad guy because it’s lorelai’s perception of him, when in fact, he voluntarily takes rory book-shopping and he buys her books he thinks she’d like and gives her notes in the margin. he gets along with paris, which dean never does by the way, and he seems to be good friends with lane and her band too. you hear them constantly referencing each other in their schedules but you never actually get to see them dating. paris and jess have all of 2 interactions, both where they genuinely seem to get along. he’s polite to emily and if he hadn’t been late or beaked in the eye by a swan, he might have even won her over. he’s smart and sweet and funny and it’s pretty much life that fucks him over. but because you don’t see the other part as visibly, it’s easier to condemn jess as being the guy that gets into fights and pisses off the town and broke rory’s wrist (which btw is not a big deal. it was a hairline fracture on her wrist and lorelai acts like rory lost an arm).
in comparison, rory is a good kid. everyone says it all the time. she’s nice and polite and bound for harvard and she’s a good student and is gonna be a great journalist. you know her potential, you know she makes good intentioned decisions most of the time. she tries to keep the peace between her mom and her grandparents. so ofc you see how she feels like her life is falling apart because her whole life hinges on that one thing she wants to do in her life and she’s struggling with it. it’s seen as a lapse in judgement. she made a mistake but she’s a good kid. she gets that leniency, but jess never does.
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For the fandom ask game: 👿 for AOT and 🤝 for Sailor Moon!
Oh thanks!:3 let's seeee :D
👿Least favorite character: AOT
.... Flop. Don't like him. :V Sorry. Sorry.sorry. everytime he opens his mouth I'm like "GURL SHUT UPPPP YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN DECLARED ERWIN'S PARROT" btw idgaf if he's based that term is just an annoying excuse for people that are so anti positive character development. 😭
Off topic but also related that in my oc fic research I checked the anime's timeline even if I'm pretty far off from s4.2 just yet and...
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So this bitch survived 1.5-2 wholeass days clinging to a ship just so hange would sacrifice themselves... (Man even my sisters don't understand what was it for "actually it's our least favourite episode, that romance was out of nowhere, this fucker just survived for no damn reason and hange shouldn't have died.' They made sad noises about having to watch it again in dub a day before we get to the ending)
I DON'T WANNA HEAR ANOTHER PLOT ARMOR TITAN JOKE EVER AGAIN 😀😀😀😀😀 💢
🤝Character you relate to the most: sailor moon
Oh oh oh! There's no reason my brain went deep dive on berthier's redemption episode in the 90's anime - girl that has this whole "perfectionism and prideful ego rooted in the need to appear competent and reliable in comparison to a previous failure and also being from an upbringing that's all about power over others(like cheating and manipulating ) being the ideal lifestyle except the same people you hope would be there for you for all that just ditch you as soon as you're not beneficial to their favour it makes you feel dumb for ever even needing anything from them because that indicates weakness" ,,, can't be that it reasonates,, right ? 🤧🤧
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heathersproship · 1 year
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This is really random? But what do you think about Veronica x Heather McNamara. I personally think it’s the least toxic ship in Heathers(alongside Heather Chandler x Heather McNamara) or at least not as toxic as Chansaw, McDuke, ChanDuke and JD x anyone, but I want to hear others opinions first.
I don’t know how to say it but I imagine McNamara and Veronica becoming close after the events of the movie, Veronica helping her with her depression while McNamara helps her recover from JD
While for Chandler and McNamara, I think it’s implied that they must’ve been close before Chandler’s sudden passing seeing that Chandler doesn’t treat McNamara poorly compared to Veronica and especially Duke and there’s a scene where McNamara grabs Chandler’s arm and they share excited looks. This is all based on the movie though since I prefer the movie as opposed to the musical(the musical isn’t bad btw, I still like it).
Oof, sorry for the wait; I’ve been without a computer for a few days and mobile is unreliable.
We have the exact same opinions, anon!
I LOVE Mcmamawyer!! Genuinely, they get the only heartwarming interaction in the movie between Veronica and a Heather, and it’s beautiful. Good choice! McNamara got so shafted, it’s so disappointing how little we got of her. If you’ve ever read the earlier draft of the movie, her spiral into depression is a lot more gradual, and she has a bit more of a personality.
And definitely, I could see Chandlamara. It’s the only good Chandler relationship frfr. Chandler treats her well in comparison to the other two because McNamara doesn’t argue like Veronica or ask stupid questions like Duke. She’s completely submissive and obedient. Chandler doesn’t need to yell at her for stepping out of line because McNamara would never. Again, it’s such a shame we get so little on her to the point where their relationship in the musical is virtually nonexistent. Of course she’s the only one who misses Chandler (in both movie and musical) because she’s the only one who wasn’t treated like utter shit by her. Especially in the musical, Chandler largely ignores her. And when something as neutral as ignoring another is treated like she actively likes her, you know the bar for “good relationships” feat. Heather Chandler is on the goddamn floor.
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sameglasses · 2 years
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i'm sure many people talked about it before, but i actively hate how the ts crew deals with ads, merch, or even basic communication and i need to rant about it too a little (the rest's under the cut, i didn't think i'd be that long but here we are lol)
there's another youtuber that i admire a lot more for this. half his channel is "regular" videos on pokémon strategy, and the other half are livestreams, let's plays, best-of etc (his name is Fildrong btw, if you're speaking a little bit of french and you like pokémon go check out his content, he's super funny) this dude knows how to run a channel, and it shows; he always keeps in touch with his fanbase, letting them know what comes next for videos, let's plays, merch, bigger projects, etc. he reaches out to artists whenever he needs to and pays them decently by the way, he lets the fans know when he's going to have some rest, etc etc. you know, basic stuff
and you wanna know the best part? he's doing this alone. he makes collabs with friends or artists, obviously, and he has an editor for his best-of only, but he runs most of his channel on his own
Thomas and his team don't get this; they're not a group of small creators anymore, they're running a whole business, and it hurts to see a business this big doing it worse than some dude doing more "modest" content on his own (depends on the videos tho, i don't think a roadtrip throughout Europe on a bike is what you could call "modest") (yes, Fildrong did that. twice. the absolute madman)
they're trying to capitalize on a series that's slowly dying because of the lack of communication, or even respect for its fans. i don't think Thomas himself is that invested into it anymore, but i'd much rather him telling us that than trying to make as much money as possible without making actual content. hell, if he even wants to cancel sanders sides altogether for any reason, i'm fine with it!! i'd be disappointed for sure, but at least he'd stop the massacre and do a Cartoon Therapy 2.0
you could claim that because Fildrong has a much smaller fanbase, it's easier for him to communicate with his fans, and to that i'll answer: Markiplier someone else made the same comparison (i can't remember the url, wave if you're here buddy), but Mark doesn't have this problem either; he also keeps in touch with his fans, to let them know about his next project, a little about what's going on in his life, sometimes, when he's going to take some vacations etc, because he knows what he's doing. and he's one of the most popular youtubers ever
what's their excuse to just even tweet "hey sorry for the delay, the next episode is going to take some time" or something like that?? while we would be thrilled to see new content, we'd appreciate even more honesty. the last video made me feel like being taken for an idiot that would willingly give their money away for some over-priced bullshit because look!! a totally new sanders sides video!!!! not a tasteless ad disguised as actual content at all!!!!!
(and yeah, i know the team isn't responsible for the price of the plushies. i'm still allowed to complain about it bc yeah i guess they're kinda cute, but i'm not spending so much money for this) (i don't even think they ship those in my country anyway)
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