brucewaynehater101

[brucewaynehater101]

I adore fics where Tim somehow ends up with two people he has to pretend to be. Like one if him, Tim drake, and the other is some guy, usually the two identities are related somehow and omg I adore how every author uses that idea

(may have sent twice sorry-)

No worries! This format reminded me of another favorite Tim trope that I love: Tim Drake, who never became Robin, knows all of the Bats identities but outright refuses to acknowledge it. He will interact with both identities the same but pretend he has no clue who they are if the Bats ask.

#tim drake #thank you for the ask!!!!

[brucewaynehater101]

I adore fics where Tim somehow ends up with two people he has to pretend to be. Like one if him, Tim drake, and the other is some guy, usually the two identities are related somehow and omg I adore how every author uses that idea

Are you talking about Tim and his penchant for fake identities? Cause that is always a hilarious (or angsty) dynamic to explore. My favorites include ones where one of his fake identities is wanted or banned in certain countries.

Identity shenanigans are also fun to explore (especially if someone he interacts with has strong but oppositie opinions for his different identities). "1-800-GOTHAM" by goldfishinabag is a great one.

I was trying to find this one fic where Jason and Tim meet up at a diner, and Jason, having not looked at the picture Talia gave him of Timothy Drake, befriends Tim while hating Robin. Couldn't find it, though :(

Fics where Tim hides his identity from the Bats will also always have a special place in my heart

#dc comics #dc universe #tim drake #alvin draper #thank you for the ask!!!!

[brucewaynehater101]

What do you think would happen if after the end of the Brucequest, Tim didn't forgive the Justice League for not helping him.

Like maybe he forgave the BatFamily instantly, because to him not forgiving them wasn't even an option, but it was still an horrible year for him and he kinda wanted to vent at someone, so he basically said to the JL that since he didn't get any help from all of them at the worst time of his life, they shouldn't expect any help from him unless it's a world ending crisis.

He's not a main JL member so he wasn't expecting anything to change, he just wanted to get angry at someone, since he's not angry at all with his family, but at the very least before the end of the day he would get Young justice completely on his side

I've seen a few fics (can't remember them rn) that show YJ pulling their support of the JL after Tim's whole debacle with them. I heavily support this decision and believe it should have been the move they pulled. Part of YJ's founding and operation relied on the fact the the kids were not being supported by the adult superheroes. They found each other and, sometimes, only had each other to rely on.

After the JL demonstrated that they are unfit to take care of the younger generation by their mass lack of support to what they perceived was a grieving teen on the verge of a mental breakdown? Fuck 'em. YJ is better off without them. They were hands off anyways.

A cool aspect of this would be YJ's refusal to the JL showing the adults how the younger generation supported the JL. They ran all sorts of missions, helped with tech support, and generally did background maintenance (in a literal and more general sense) for the JL. It wouldn't necessarily devastate JL, but it would leave them unbalanced and scrambling for a bit.

It would be hella cool to see YJ and others in his generation deciding to be the buffer between the JL and heroes even younger than them (aka Damian's generation). They would offer the support and aid that YJ typically went without.

I do think that YJ would support Tim's decision, Cassie being a major proponent of it. If, theoretically, they others didn't pull their support to the JL, they would at least give the older heroes a cold shoulder and harsher attitude.

The difference between the batfam and the JL is the level of responsibility and relationships they have with Tim. The JL is a group of heroes that are supposed to do good. Tim probably would hold a harsher grudge against them because of this (what if they treated others they were supposed to save in the same way). The Bats are extremely dysfunctional, but I imagine they would try to make amends (except Bruce, but I also hate him, so...). Tim would forgive them because he loves them, he understands the circumstances they were under, and they tried to apologize.

Anyways, Tim should be able to save "fuck you" to the JL for the BruceQuest.

#dc comics #dc universe #tim drake #young justice #young just us #thank you for the ask!!!! #let tim be petty

[brucewaynehater101]

I hc Duke doesnt think he’s part of the bat family, but not like in a sad way, in the way of “these are my friends, and they all happen to be family :D” way.

So when someone says to Bruce “aw you must be so proud of all your sons” while gesturing at the boys, Duke says “oh no I’m not his son, just a friend:)” and all the bats think they did something of didn’t make him feel welcome when in fact he thinks all these guys are just his best of friends

I love the idea of Duke just vibing with his friends, who are an entire family, and he thinks he just managed to befriend an entire group of related people. The Bats obviously consider him family, but he's just glad to find a great vigilante community.

Another funny take on this is that Duke doesn't want the drama of being considered a Wayne. He's hung out with Steph too much to ever want that (she likes to drop the tea of Wayne family drama with the newcomer as both a warning and as a way to watch his reactions). His goal is to be a Barbara-like role to the family (kind of family, but more family friend).

Babs and Duke meet up often to try to scheme ways for Duke to remain as a family friend and not be a Steph-like adoption (or worse, an actual adoption). Babs has shared a few tricks, but her position relies mostly on her situation being a combination of her dad working close with Batman and her being the ex (or current gf) of a Bird. As evident by Steph, both of those are required for Babs-level interaction with the Waynes. Duke can't replicate that on either level.

So, Duke is trying his best to be good pals with Waynes and not be caught in their adoption tendencies. It's a balancing act.

#batcest dni #duke thomas #thank you for the ask!!!!

[brucewaynehater101]

How to Writing multiple characters in a scene!!

Writing tips w/ Sunny (part 1, because I ramble and im positive ill end up doing this again if people want or for my own satisfaction)

This is just my methodology put in a way I think makes sense, if this doesnt apply to you thats okay everyone has different stradegies that work for them <33

SO lets begin.

"Rules" of writing multi character scenes + arcs, (First half is how to add them into a scene, second half is maintaining and not letting them vanish)

AHEM- Well there are four ways to place a character in a scene

Narration POV Aka the protagonist, this is the perspective ever present unless you CLARIFY the story is now through the lens of another character (Take for example my fic, while I play with multiple perspectives- a bulk is from Tims POV)

Secondary POV This is the character that DIRECTLY interacts with the narrator aka their "first point of contact" so to speak, they ground the narrator in the scene as not alone and is actually interacting with other people. (This DOES NOT have to be a speaking role, it can be purely observational if need be- but its the character that gets the most attention via the narrators perspective SIDE NOTE- THIS CAN SWITCH AS WELL)

Interactive POV Now we get to the "filling"- since Secondary doesn't need a direct tie to the narrator, you can have another character interact with the secondary character. But since they are not the focus of the scene its good to have a REASON they "Enter" or else if you spend so long giving the narrators perspective on #2 then you risk having someone "Materialize" in thin air. (This isnt really a concern unless you wait too long into the scene to go "Oh this guy exists-" you have time as you paint the reader a picture of the new enviornment/scene)

Enviorment POV Last but most certainly not least (and the one i've seen people struggle with the most) is the character that is PRESENT A N D NAMED- But serves no plot importance/relevance (to the narrator) during the opening part of the scene.

To put in better perspective- think of being in a room, The Narrator is you observing your surroundings (depending on POV style how "into the mind" of the narrator we go)

Secondary is the person you focus on, you hear their conversation, see their body language, expression, clothing, etc. They are the personal "focus" (there can be multiple as well)

Interactive is people SURROUNDING the focus, those who still play a semi active and visible role. They can either be within your line of sight interacting with the enviorment or speaking to a secondary/narrator character.

Enviorment is the person in the back of class that you know, but don't really register unless they do/say something- but you are still AWARE of their presence. CAREFUL NOT TO INTRODUCE THEM TOO LATE, OR ELSE YOU HAVE THE "MATERIALIZE" PROBLEM AGAIN

Now into a scene(aka recycling an old one)

Tim starred ahead silently from his side of the couch, watching Jason fidget with the soda tab on his shitty off brand Doctor Pepper he always insisted on getting. Around and around over and over, it was giving him second hand anxiety.

Thankfully they weren't forced to stay in the moment as Dick leaned over and pressed his shoulder into Jasons with a beaming smile "Oh come on it'll be fun"!

"Says you golden boy" Steph teased, half hanging off her chair and a foot almost knocking over Cass chip bag, only stopped by the fact Duke snatched it and moved it further along the table.

Well at least Damian seemed to be reacting rationally, seeming intent on slouching in on himself the more Dick tried to pull him and Jason together into a "group hug". It was a wonder his arms could even reach that far- even more so that they were still intact.

But Jason, like the rest of them, was weak to Dicks puppy dog eyes. Tim saw the moment he gave up a losing battle and his shoulders slumped in defeat, though his scowl ever present. "If I say yes will you fuck off"

"Ah ah language, we have children here"! Dick gasped, placing his ears on Damians ears which only earned him a snarl in return.

"I don't think Damian counts as a kid- and I just turned 16 which is basically an adult" Duke tried to defend, but his 'fierce glare' had less effect with his hand stuck in a bag of gummy worms.

Tim huffed- if Dick kept it up, they would end up with "family night", and he doubted all of them would come back alive.

(END SCENE)

Now to break down- Tim was of course the "Narrator" perspective that was viewing the scene, we get his insight even while not directly interacting with the characters just by his description tone.

Jason was of course the main "Secondary"character (though Dick was a mix as well) where the scene introduced by Tims perpective and tone by someone else in the enviornment.

Then you have Dick who is a perfect mix of Interactive character (how he entered the scene via movement, placing himself in perspective to the established other two) while shifting to have the most "scene impact" whilst still not being Tims focus.

Finally you have everyone else serving as Enviornment characters, with either a simple Line-action (ex-Steph) or a name drop in general placement (Cass) or establishment through movement, and only relevent later in the scene (Duke).

Damian kind of floats between, he is introduced via a reaction + Narrator observation, but then is mostly just an eviornment character. He is THERE but not really awknowleged beyond that.

NEXT- If that doesn't help much you can rely on "Environment rule"

Aka everyone is always doing something in any space they occupy- apply that to your characters. It can be as simple as when you have one character speak loudly to the narrating POV, another character shifts away or laughs.

They didn't need to speak nor did you need to detract from the tension/pacing of a scene by describing in detail their expression, positon, etc.

BUT in that moment your reader just clues in to "Oh okay x is here-" that is established, and whether or not x plays a role in a future scene within that enviornment doesnt matter much.

This is also the PERFECT oppertunity to give characterization. If a tense moment is going on you can have the narrator notice another character stiffen/flinch (aka affected by the conflict, even if not an active participant)

FINAL PART- MAINTAINING

This is where shit can hit the fan f a s t- getting a bunch of characters in a scene is one thing but keeping them there?? Hell at times.

But once again this all relies on "Narrator perspective" and unless you are switching narrators, you need a "cone of vision" to determine what is or isn't important unless you might break the tension of a scene.

Methods include-

Reactions

Two+ background characters interact (verbal or not)

Interact with enviornment

Enter/Leave a space (of note)

A sound registered but not explored (a chair creaking back, a glass dropping, snack bag rustling, or even my favorite which is the sudden absense of sound implying an audience)

"Incidents" (Someone drops something, attention goes to them for a sec- apology/oneliners, then switch back)

Check ins from NON NARRATOR, (or narrator, but usually works better to keep track of who is focused on who)

Characters don't need to be "ever present" just remind your reader they exist somewhere generally in the scene (and keep them in your back pocket)

But The best possible tool at your disposal?? BANTER.

Let characters interact, feel out their dyanmics- If you dont know how they interact in non tense situations, how does that change when tension amps up. Have a background character throw in a one liner- or the narrator observe a conversation they aren't a part of.

LET PEOPLE BE PEOPLE- And they basically write themselves

Last but not least- if you feel stuck or lost?? Treat EVERYONE like a narrator.

Who are they paying attention to? What are they seeing? How do they REACT to that? Do they speak up, do they tense, do they try and slip away or stay strong?

You don't need to know this for EVERY scene- but sometimes it helps out of a rut moment

ANYWAYYSS- This is my rant and personal methodology of how I place/maintain multiple characters. I hope this helps for anyone interested, if not find what works for you!!

My Asks are open if anyone wants me to give any other advice, tips, or just general ramblings about writing.

Otherwise,

Happy writing!!

#thank you!!!!!!

[brucewaynehater101]

A funny thought just came to me, so here's a new writing prompt:

The Justice League doesn't think that Batman has a civilian identity. For the most part, he only ever comes out at night, adding to the nocturnal rumors, but he has been seen during the day when there are huge problems or bigger rouge attacks.

And, because the JL don't think he has a civilian identity, they naturally assume that none of the other Gotham Vigilantes do, either. Signal, the only consistent day shift, is obviously a different breed than the rest. All of the others are nocturnal.

Extra points if they think they're a group of cryptids.

One day, Bruce and Tim are needed to help set up at WE for a press conference. One that Lois Lane is covering. At the same time, the JL Is having a meeting. Normally Dick would put on the Batman suit, but Nightwing is needed at the meeting, too. They can't say that Batman is off world, because all of those trips are logged and followed by the Lanterns. So, the next logical thing to do is for Nightwing to tell the JL that Batman and Red Robin were needed as civilians, but he will make sure to pass the information on to them, as well as record the meeting.

"Batman doesn't have a civilian identity," Is the response he gets. "None of you do, right?"

Nightwing, for all his training, doesn't react outside of his smile getting slightly bigger. "You don't think we have secret identities?"

"No, we kinda just assumed you all just hid away in a cave or something when you weren't needed or on duty."

Oh, these sweet summer children. Nightwing is trying very hard not to laugh at them. "We, we do have secret identities, we don't do nothing when we aren't in costume."

"Are you sure?" That's the Flash. "'Cause I'm pretty sure we'd recognize you guys out of costume." Kudos to him for being so confident about that. "Most of you only have tiny masks over your eyes. That's not enough to cover an identity."

Nightwing takes a glance at Superman, not that anyone can see his eyes move behind the domino mask. The alien's eyes have shifted left.

"I've been to Gotham plenty of time," Green Arrow speaks up, "I know I haven't seen everyone in the city, but I'm pretty sure I'd recognize your build. It's pretty distinct."

Bold. All of the Wayne Clan have met Green Arrow in and out of costume. They've actually met most of the JL in and out of costume. Should he tell them? Nah, that's not funny. He can't wait to tell the others.

[brucewaynehater101]

it’s soooo interesting how dick graysons oversexualisation coincides with the retcon that he’s now a romani man — a demographic that has always been oversexualised and dehumanised. it’s soooo crazy the thrice survivor of sexual assault keeps getting ugly covers all about his ass. its wiiiiild how bruce wayne— a character whose alter ego is purposely sexualised — is never treated this way. damn, can’t imagine why

#dick grayson #dc comics

[brucewaynehater101]

I def recommend the game if you ever decide to play again. There's so much angst with Jason, and he is also very cool looking. He keeps saying stuff to the player, or Batman, like, "You used to be better, old man." He's around the same age as me (though no one is sure of his age), so I find that hilarious.

As far as puzzles, that's part of why I love horror games! They usually include a lot of puzzle like elements (typically for escape).

It's almost 6am here, so for sure a wee bit different (I don't think that rhymed :/)

i remember you asking for batfam hcs and that i sent one.

absolutely forgot what it was though… lol

anyways; how are you op in this fine friday

No worries about the hc ~

I'm doing pretty alright. Have you played the Arkham Knight game? Someone told me I had to complete all the riddles for the "true ending," and I'm about ready to shake the Riddler until all the question marks fall off of him.

There's 243 riddles, and he spends the entire time mocking you :(

There's some cool hidden ones, though! The scenery is absolutely gorgeous, and the concept art it sometimes unlocks is fantastic. I wonder if they sell some of them as posters.

Anyways, how are you doing? The sun isn't even up where I'm at, but I figure we have a wee bit of a time difference.

[brucewaynehater101]

I could have sworn Gotham put "don't drink tap water" right on their "Welcome to Gotham" signs.

Hypothetically, if one were to drink Gotham water and survive the other stuff floating in there, they may develop a second gender. Like the other stuff, it'll go away if treated and not a regular occurrence. Pretty sure it only becomes permanent if someone keeps chugging it.

Serious question: Does the Joker mpreg mean he's an omega?

#dc au #not something I know from personally experience obviously #I have never been desperate enough to drink Gotham's tap water and have never been so thankful the effects went away

[brucewaynehater101]

i remember you asking for batfam hcs and that i sent one.

absolutely forgot what it was though… lol

anyways; how are you op in this fine friday

No worries about the hc ~

I'm doing pretty alright. Have you played the Arkham Knight game? Someone told me I had to complete all the riddles for the "true ending," and I'm about ready to shake the Riddler until all the question marks fall off of him.

There's 243 riddles, and he spends the entire time mocking you :(

There's some cool hidden ones, though! The scenery is absolutely gorgeous, and the concept art it sometimes unlocks is fantastic. I wonder if they sell some of them as posters.

Anyways, how are you doing? The sun isn't even up where I'm at, but I figure we have a wee bit of a time difference.

#thank you for the ask!!!! #I love the riddler but he needs some patience #he a funny little dude though

[brucewaynehater101]

Have you ever heard the song "missing hell" by sushi soucy? Bc it's,,,,, tim,,, it's all batkids tbh

Tw: abuse, emotional neglect, bad parents

I had not heard of that song before, and I love how it represents the cycle of abuse, especially through the act of gift giving.

As for whether this fits the batkids, it depends on one's perception of Bruce. Is he the type to constantly buy his children's affection? He has money he can throw around and isn't afraid to do it. Would he use his money to buy every monetary need of his children while also hoping to wield it as proof of his love?

I personally think it fits. For Dick, he lives in crappy apartments in Bludhaven because he can be financially independent from Bruce that way. There's a bit to analyze there with their relationship, but it's understandable to want to provide for yourself at a young age if your guardian constantly uses money as a means to control you.

For Tim, this song might relate to his bio parents and Bruce. While Jack and Janet weren't necessarily physically abusive, they were emotionally neglectful (Jack after the coma was portrayed as emotionally abusive). They could have provided Tim with gifts and luxury to try to excuse their absence. If Tim had complained, they could have guilted him with the things they bought and provided. Others around Tim would have berated him as well if he said he'd rather have his parents than expensive skateboards (or whatever his parents gave him).

The shitty part is the vicious cycle one can find themselves in until they are financially independent. There's the fight and anger and emotions that occur. The cooldown. The appeasement (in love bombing and gifts). The gaslighting, blaming, and guilt tripping ("I only got so mad at you because of what you did," "I apologized already," "I didn't yell at you,"). The fight again. The stages can get mixed up, but it happens again and again.

If one wants to speculate, they can add this as another reason Tim made up a fake uncle (whether from his experience with his own parents or from Bruce).

I have a song similar to this, but from the viewpoint of the abuser. "This is Love" by Air Traffic Controller details what gaslighting might happen and the dangers hidden by a person claiming "this is love" despite what they are doing not being that.

There's various kinds of abuse and tactics used. Stay safe, y'all.

#tim drake #dick grayson #tw abuse #bruce wayne #gift giving can be a means to control or guilt someone #obv not always but it's good to recognize whether gifts are being utilized as such (intentionally or not) #thank you for the ask!!!!

[brucewaynehater101]

I like how this implies that if omegaverse was in DC, it would just be in Gotham.

What is in their drinking water? Joker venom, fear gas, Ivy's pollen, and the omegaverse.

Serious question: Does the Joker mpreg mean he's an omega?

[brucewaynehater101]

Saw some ppl talking about Reverse Robins and i had thoughts

Talking abt u guys @eldritchdreamss @brucewaynehater101

Why kill Tim when you could kill baby Jason? What I want is for all of them to keep their own backstories and personalities (Developed in line with the story of course) So ofc i had to write a 1,000 word brainrot abt it.

(Also i'll only be going over the main 4 batbros for now i will add more later but these guys are the ones im most passionate about so here we go)

Damian

Let Damian come in, desperate to be of use and be worthy of his father, only for a softer, less jaded bruce (since jason hasnt died yet) to help him open up his heart and let him act as a kid. With no competition for so long, I imagine he and Bruce get along very well while he works with him. Yeah, they need to work on the no killing deal and Damian's... i guess impulse control? But i think it would be easier with very intensely focused reparenting; no distractions of other kids you know? No favoring or anything.

I see Damian growing up as a stoic, jaded adult. He's had a rough life. Maybe he sticks with the vigilante business. but I really love headcanons where he gets out of it, and focuses on something calmer, like his art. (I do appreciate and love the veterinarian Damian AUs, but im going for FULL calmness, you know? And doctor/vet work is Not calm lol)

So yeah, maybe he grows a real passion for heroism, maybe he doesn't? Maybe he goes on to be an artist and that's just what he does. Bro is ready to settle down as a scarred, veteran trophy husband and i adore him for that.

(Sorry lol i just love Damian and i love the idea of him growing out of both of his parent's legacies. Let him live his own life!!! He fights so so hard for at least 15 years. ALL 15 years of his life. He deserves to have some peace.)

Tim

Tim i think would need a much different story to join the Batfam. He still starts out as a stalker who follows batman and. . . . . . . Redimar (meaning Redemption iykyk (I just spend 17min researching names rip)) at night, takes photos, etc... Since Damian doesn't die, maybe he finds Tim? and like, tim is like 11 and Damian is 17 or 18. He's started going out as Redimar less and less, not that B really minds? In fact hes probably happy for his son so...

But then Damian finds Tim, and now he has to keep going out because he can't let this kid get himself killed like this. He would hold himself accountable since hes the only reason Tim keeps going out so much- also i imagine Tim follows Redimar more than Batman.

Cue a classic Tim Joining The Batfam plotline. They get to know each other better, get a grasp on Tim's situation, Damian finally introduces Tim to Bruce... (Probably something like Dami: "Father, this is my new brother. Timothy, say hello to Father," Tim: "Hello, Father," Dami: "Perfect." Bruce: "*falls off the batchair*)

Anyway, so, Tim ends up kinda just merging with the Waynes. They start training him, its all good and nice, and Tim makes his own little hero team unlike Damian, which is actually pretty interesting here; its Tim who made the first young hero team. Damian only ever had Jon (Superboy 1 in this!!) and he finds Young Just Us and becomes a great leader and its all fine and dandy.

Tim and Damian get along well. Damian is the sage older brother whos kinda distant, but only because he has such high emotional walls (but secretly a softy). He is very much like Bruce- nope, nevermind, hes definitely worse than Bruce in this AU, since Bruce is depicted as being much more agreeable before Jason's death, you know? So yeah, Damian is the emotionally constipated bitch in the fam and we love him for that. But hey!! Tim does manage to get through his walls! And Bruce does sometimes too!! (Tho i imagine Bruce and Damian's relationship to be very.. idk let me try to expalain. Dami: "Father." Bruce: "Son :)" Dami: "Tt." Bruce: *nods* "Hrn." Dami: "Hmph." Bruce: "Hm.") DO U PICK UP WHAT IM PUTTING DOWN--- lmfao. They hardly need words.

Tim ends up growing up very very capable. Once his parents die, he gets a little jaded, but hes still Tim. He and Damian become kind of an... ice prince duo? If you get what I mean. But Tim is the one whos actually the ice prince, Damian is secretly a HUGE softie. He is Delicate and Tim protects him lmfao.

Jason

Jason comes along like he does in canon. Has the same backstory. Tries to steal the Batmobile's wheels. Tim is sleeping over at Damian's flat for the night, so its just Bruce. They bond. Shit happens. Jason joins the fam.

I don't imagine them not getting along, but they don't immediately hit it off either. Jason is wary of all of them for a time, but he ends up warming up to Damian pretty fast after realizing what a softie he is. He pokes fun at Damian and Damian just freaking takes it lmao. Hes an adult he cannot be disturbed. Bro has seen too much and he finds Jason adorable. (Dami: "You were never this cute, Timothy." <- he is lying. Tim: *offended* "What the fu- flip!?" Jason: "Lmao Tim just say fuck." Dami: *deadpan stare* Tim: "JASON NO DONT SAY THE FUCK WORD-") ahem.

anywho and then Jason dies rip skill issue ratio.

The whole batfam is heartbroken. Genuinely shattered. Jason was a light in their lives. Not that they were WITHOUT any light, but Jason was the epitome of a sunshine child.

It's been too long since Damian has killed someone. Bro's god oodles and oodles of trauma. He can't bring himself to kill the Joker.

but Tim can.

It's a whole dramatic thing; Damian feels awful that he made his- now only- little brother kill. Bruce is hella upset but feels responsible for not seeing how badly both of his kids were handling the death of their brother. Tim goes a little off the deep end.

Things turn out.... okay. sort of. but not really. Tim changes his hero name to Red Cardinal. He feels pretty lost. Maybe he stumbles into Ra's al Ghul or smthn idk maybe smthn happens there perhaps. Maybe Damian has to put on Redimar again and rescue him? But its less of a rescue and more of a "Stop joining the dark side Tim jesus christ-" (and it does work).

They go home. Tim gets a boyfriend or two. Damian falls into his art. Bruce is throwing himself into work. They're all kind of a mess, but they keep moving.

and then

Dick

(lmao that sounded wrong)

ahem; and then the circus comes to town. The batfam- well, Tim, Damian, and Bruce- all decide to get together to do something fun. Take the opportunities given, yk? So they go to the circus together.

Wham bam rip the falling Flying Graysons.

They see Dick, breaking apart, and they know they have to do something. Bruce is the first to move. Then Tim. Damian is the last.

It's pretty quick getting Dick home, since Bruce is already a foster parent cuz of Tim yk. So Dick doesn't have to suffer in Juvie at all really. But that doesn't change the fact that he is ANGRY.

Dick is SO angry. he wants to kill the person who murdered his parents. He knows what he saw.

The fam of course do their best to investigate. Mostly Tim, who feels unworthy of being around an innocent little kid after his whole.... villain era, i suppose lol. (ofc Dick thinks Tim doesnt like him lol misunderstanding arc GO)

The whole "Dick accepts that justice is better than murder kinda maybe FOR NOW" storyline happens, and Dick becomes the conniving, bright, little Robin we all know and love. (Thinking of the Young Justice Cartoon Robin (but not the characters- just Dick's character) aaaand

Womp womp GUESS WHOS BACK

Jason's Back

but i'll leave that for later.

#reverse robins #batman #damian wayne #jason todd #tim drake #bruce wayne #dick grayson #This is an intersting dynamic and I'd love to see where it continues #since Tim killed Joker that changed a lot for the anger canon Jason holds #if Tim gets involved with ra's does he find cass there or jason or just miss them?

[brucewaynehater101]

love the idea of Tim thinking he’s being put through a ‘test’ of Bruce’s, when in fact it’s a real emergency. So when Tim like saves the whole batfam, he just goes “how did I score” to Bruce, finally making Bruce realize how deep the impact of his testing went in Tim’s brain

If Bruce was finally working at healing and redemption, then this is a great wake-up call for the man. There's a great amount of angst there. He should realize the errors of his ways and maybe acknowledge there's no way to fix the permanent mindset he instilled in a child. However, I don't think Bruce would outright notice anything wrong with Tim's behavior. They've established routines by now. The other kids, though? Their reaction would cue Bruce into how messed up it is.

A bit of a discret version of this would be Tim automatically filling out a mission report. Within the report, he lists his failures and mistakes he made on the mission. This could play out two ways.

One: another kid sees this and scoffs at Tim's perfectionism. It bubbles over into a fight where it reveals how Tim was constantly tested by Bruce with the imminent threat of being forced to quit and banned if he wasn't strong enough. Bruce couldn't stop Tim from being Robin, but he could make his life hell.

Two: Tim writes down the others' mistakes for improvement. This pisses someone off until someone eventually cues into this being an act of protection by Tim. He doesn't want them subjected to Bruce's training if they keep making the same mistakes.

Regardless, they find out how Bruce's constant testing, his trainings, and his treatment of Tim's Robin (and maybe even current treatment of Tim) has really screwed Tim up.

Another way to make this a great miscommunication angst would be Tim, post mission, not treating it with the seriousness it required. Everyone is down at the batcave trying to recover from their wounds and the trauma of what they've witnessed. Then Tim pipes up with a "how did I do, Batman?" Bruce automatically starts listing faults, and Tim just nods. Everyone else is floored because didn't they both just see that horrific shit that went down?

Tim is just high key dissociating to finish up protocol until he can go home and have a 5 hour long mental breakdown. Bruce is just finishing the list of protocols because it's a method of control and coping for him. It's also a habit.

#dc comics #dc universe #tim drake #bruce wayne #thank you for the ask!!!!

[brucewaynehater101]

Damiana and Cassandra both gre wup in the League of Assassins, right?

Do you think they ever discuss their shared experience in the League, their shared trauma?

I imagine Cass would become Damian's go-to whenever he needs to vent League trauma with somebody who'd understand and she would be the one who gets the ball rolling in him realizing just how fucked his upbringing is

I imagine he'd do the same with Tim post BruceQuest, and Tim and Cass would bond over League trauma as well

Jason would be there too. I think Damian and Cass would bond the most because they grew up in the League, and Damian and Jason (before the BruceQuest) would bond from having been in the League most recently.

Tim spent the least amount of time with the LoA, but he gets added to their club cause he spent a few months with them. Their dynamics would be hilarious too. Tim and Cass would usually be on team together against Jason and Damian if either Jason or Damian start a fight with Tim. They keep trying to bond and heal over their traumas with LoA, but get distracted by their now sibling-like hatred for each other (similar to when your siblings chews too loud, so you consider murdering them).

I also like to think that Jason got them all shirts for being in the LoA trauma club.

Jason has shirts for people who have tried to murder Tim, but now are his allies. He's a bit shocked by how many shirts he had to make. He got Tim one singular chili hotdog in sympathy of how often he's befriend his attempted murderers.

But, yeah. Cass helping Damian through his LoA trauma would be a huge aid to the kid in understanding what was acceptable in his childhood and what was not. Cass heals from this too and starts to learn what memories were fucked.

It's canon that Cass jokes with Steph about their fathers being cruel.

If I were to dissect it a bit more, Cass and Jason would understand LoA dynamics the most with Damian. Cass would probably know background traditions and methods a bit more than Jason. Jason would know the most about working/being around Talia. He could help Damian through his conflicting feelings about that. Tim could help Damian with his experiences with Ra's.

Just the batfam and using unorthodox ways to heal from their similar traumas

#cass wayne #damian wayne #tim drake #jason todd #thank you for the ask!!!!

[brucewaynehater101]

tim drake trying to explain something complex but he keeps changing the subject mid sentence and taking ages to circle back to his original point and the only ones who can follow the conversation are kon (used to bart), dick (used to wally), bart (used to tim), steph (also yaps), and babs (autism)

[brucewaynehater101]

Just saw artwork of Jason doing the heads in a duffle bag thing and—-

I’m sorry but there’s just something so visceral and horrifying about a teenager sawing heads off people in a display for power.

Were they bad people? Yes. Did they deserve it? Probably. Did it send a message? Absolutely. Is it still horrifying? Heck yeah.

Just—- knowing Jason and his background, it’s just so heartrendingly tragic. I don’t even think he liked doing it, I’m just imagining him having to throw up afterwards before putting his helmet back on and playing tough crime lord again. The amount of self loathing he must feel whenever he thinks too hard about his actions. Falling asleep and seeing that—

Just— emotional repercussions, man. They’re real…

#see this is why I usually go with pit madness #one of the many reasons #like the put kind of numbs the part of you that feels guilt over something so atrocious #greys out your moral compass #if you can’t fall back on that— you’re doomed #in Jason’s case pls don’t quote me on that #jason todd #<prev tags #dc red hood