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writerbuddha · 1 year

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Hello, I’m sure there is an interview somewhere where either George Lucas or Dave Filoni explain how the Jedi order gave into fear of losing the Republic they were so determined to protect the Republic and that led to their down fall.

Hello! :)

I don't know about Dave Filoni, he had some takes on Star Wars and the Republic (and honestly, I doubt he went this far) but I would be very, very surprised if George Lucas would've say something like this.

In George Lucas' story, the issue is greed, defined by him as "you’re either afraid you’re not going to get what you want, or you’re afraid that, when you get it, somebody’s going to take it away from you. It’s all fear driven.” And also as "to not accept the reality of life’s passages and changes, which is to say things come, things go."

Projecting this to the Jedi Order's relationship to the Republic - to democracy, to the symbiotic circle formed by the galaxy - would be very problematic. It would mean that letting go of the coming and passing things includes letting the Republic, democracy, symbiosis just pass. This view is rooted in the idea that a republic, a democracy is something you have rather than something that you do. It must be constantly recreated by belief in and commitment to it, to strive to be as one, to work together as the whole system of life. Wanting to preserve, to maintain a democracy is not holding on, it's carrying on. If one views something like the Republic as something that can be owned, kept, hold on to, that's already a red flag, in my mind.

Whenever Lucas talks about these things, he never says the Jedi did something wrong. He says these things:

"The Jedi, they don't attack, they only defend. Yoda didn't attack until [Episode II]. There's a conundrum ultimately. It's been there forever. Which is, are you just going to sit there and let them kill you? Or your loved ones? Or destroy the world that you know? Or are you going to try to fix it? At some point, you do have to sand up for what you believe in. Obviously, I can make my religion be whatever I want it to be. It doesn't have to be consistent. If a cobra's going to strike you, I think you have every right to put a stick up there and hit him over the hehad. Because it's either him or you."

James Cameron's story of science fiction

"It's one of the conundrums of which there's a bunch of in my movies. You have to think it through. Are they going to stick with their moral rules and all be killed, which makes it irrelevant, or do they help save the Republic? They have good intentions, but they have been manipulated which was their downfall."

Star Wars Archives 1999-2005

“[The scene with Obi-Wan and Dooku] allows you to kinda have some sympathy for Dooku in that he carries the sympathies of most of the Jedi which is that the Senate is corrupt and is incapable of carrying out any meaningful actions because they argue about everything all the time.”

Which is to say, the Jedi were aware of the shortcomings of the Republic, which were, as Lucas said in Star Wars Archives: Lucas explains, in Episode I, II and III, “the Senators have fallen out of the symbiotic circle” and the “symbiotic relationship had torn apart” because “they couldn’t agree on anything because their interests became so divergent, so they couldn’t get anything done as a Republic.”

Attack of the Clones commentary track

However:

"As dedicated as the Separatists were in their resolve to create a new order to replace the failing Republic, the Jedi were equally determined to preserve the Republic and defeat the Sith, who they understood all too well were the masterminds of the Separatist movement. They still believed in the Republic, still deemed it a Republic worth saving.”

Foreword for Matthew Stower's Shatterpoint, written by Lucas

“The Jedi are always sort of fighting this reality of the fact that they’re, in essence, diplomats. They sort of persuade people to do the right thing, but their job isn’t really to go around fighting people. Yet they’re now used as generals and they’re fighting in a war, and they’re doing something that they really weren’t meant to do. They’re being corrupted by this war, by being forced to be generals instead of peacemakers.” E! Behind the scenes (which is the only problem he mentions.)

So, based on this, it would be strange, to put it mildly if Lucas would say, the Jedi were afraid to lose the Republic, and that led to their downfall. The Republic was something that they were supposed to maintain, to preserve, to protect, and "letting it go" doesn't really working with the fear of loss theme and the message that you need to let go of things, because you can't hold on to anything. Especially because symbiosis - democracy - is built on compassion, which is the antidote of fear of loss.

But if you happen to find something like that, please do drop me a link!

:) :) :)

#george lucas #democracy #dave filoni #star wars #the jedi order #the galactic republic

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nothorses · 2 years

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cw: mentions of suicidal ideation, transphobia

last night i took a lot of psychic damage by making the mistake of reading the replies of a pro-trans post on twitter; literally hundreds of people talking about how being trans makes me a groomer pedophile, wishing for my death, celebrating and using suicide statistics as a "gotcha" for a laugh

this morning i wake up and go to the blogs of people you recently reblogged to block them for my own sanity, and their tumblrs are just filled with posts mocking trans men for existing, wanting to talk about our issues, calling us wannabe perpetual victims because we have high rates of suicidal ideation.

fuck, dude. i know you're just a random tumblr blogger. im not asking for a therapy session, i have friends i plan on confiding in about these feelings. i just wish this message would reach someone on the fence about transandrophobia as a necessary term and realize what the other side of the argument is saying and doing is extremely harmful to people and just echoes violent transphobes in a softer voice; shut up, go away, disappear.

shit sucks, man. i feel awful.

It is really grim, tbh, and I think it helps a little to know that a lot of the folks saying these things have pretty explicit ties to baeddelism- either currently, or just in their backgrounds (and nowhere near denounced today).

Obviously that's not the only thing going on here; some of them never knew what baeddelism was, and still don't. The term is pretty old, the movement was pretty insular and short-lived.

But keep in mind that it also didn't come from nowhere: baeddelism was born from radical feminism, warped in such a way that it benefited a thin slice of relatively privileged* trans women. The ideas it came from were around before there was a specific name and movement for it, and the ideas it congealed have lingered long after the formal, named movement died out.

All that to say that these aren't exactly reasonable people to begin with.

Not only that, but a lot of the folks parroting those ideas don't really know what they're saying or why- like the original baeddel movement, there are people who exist tangential to the movement who also don't really know what it is or what it means, misunderstand the goals and ideals, and adopt the talking points because they sound progressive and the people around them are doing it. A lot of these people are confused, are only engaging because they lack the whole picture and/or are projecting genuinely good ideas onto a deeply harmful movement, and will likely either realize it's not what they think it is and leave, or lose interest if it loses popularity.

This stuff sucks, but it's never as bad or as dire as it can feel at times. There's nuance to it, and there's hope, and there are a lot of people actively working against it- y'know, like "transfem transmisogynists": people brave enough to be allies despite all the radfems in their own community calling them self-hating and bigoted for... not being a radical separatist.

We're not alone. Surround yourself with community that reminds you you're not alone and that you have hope, and try to remind yourself of all the progress we've seen so far.

( * Keyword "relatively": I'm referring to mostly white, thin, binary, medically-transitioned, passing, conventionally attractive, abled, etc. trans women. Obviously transmisogyny and transphobia is still a factor in their lives, and they do not experience privilege on the basis of being trans women.)

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hectorandvarian · 5 years

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THEORY: Cassandra originally from Saporiа.

Welcome. As promised, I'll try to do more telrii for you. You all know the theory that Cassandra could be mother Gothel's daughter. It is quite a good theory, because many factors indicate its correctness: the similarity in appearance, character. Yes, even in the timeline it is possible to enter, because Cass is older than Rapunzel for four years. However, this theory has one "but" that can completely deprive it of any raisins...

Gothel will leave Cassandra. It doesn't matter what age Cass was then - still a baby or at the age of four, just before Rapunzel was kidnapped. It's disgusting for a mother, but it's normal for Gothel. Do you think that after such an act Cassandra will rush to take a shower and betray Rapunzel? She even more understand my friend and will never betray her! In the end, Cassandra is not stupid, she understands the world, and even the fact that if Rape and killed Gothel will not change the fact that the mother of witches was bad.

However, the theory I'm going to tell you about can break this "but" and explain why Cassandra betrayed Rapunzel and what she saw outside the door. For those of you who have forgotten a little, I'll bring you up to speed. Saporia is a state, which, a few centuries ago, waged war with the Corona. However, later the rulers of these States decided to go to a truce, tying his world marriage. However, as we learned from the book "Rapunzel and the Lost Lagoon", the Corona was at pains to suppress everything connected with Saporia. It got to the point that even saporians language known only to historians. In connection with these facts, a group of saporians United in a separatist movement that vowed to strike at the Corona and destroy it. And the ashes of the old world to revive Saрoriа in the former power. Now the theory...

Cassandra is originally from Saporiti. Why would I? Well, firstly, when it comes to Saporiа - always next to Cassandra. The ninth episode of the first season fully dedicated to, as Cass tries to crack spy Saporiа - Hubert. Also in the sixteenth series of the second season, "Rapunzel: Day one", our heroines get to the town, which is completely marked with signs of Saporia. (Strange that they didn't pay attention to it.) Subsequently, using the book the doctor from Saporiа, Cassandra is trying to regain the memory of Rapunzel. And what is most interesting - we do not know where the book went. Maybe Cassandra kept it?

Secondly, don't you think that General Shampanier something like Cassandra? Both are warlike virgins, fairly stubborn and confident. Yes, and something even they look similar, don't you think? And most importantly...

A dramatic past. Because of that many liked powerit with "Eugene - the Dark Prince"? For the drama we were shown, how Eugene is aware of this fact and can not understand who he is now. If Gothel is really Cassandra's mother, then with her again, this trick will be very difficult to crank. But if Cassandra's parents are Saporians - easily! They might do for love, Cassandra, but to leave her, Stobie not to endanger on the part of the Corona, because as we know, the Corona of all sorts of forces trying to destroy the old Saporia. I present to you personally my vision of this scene: "Cassandra's Parents play nice with the baby, call it "Bright ray of the moon." Suddenly there is a knock at the door. The guards came. Saporians understand that they are finished, but decide to save at life Cassandra. Her father takes her in his arms and carries her to the lullaby. Finally, he kisses her on the forehead and says, "You have a great future, Cassie." Then he closes the door and locks it. We hear the sounds of battle, the cries of parents, and then silence. Little Cassandra's crying. Suddenly enters the room with the Captain of the guard. He sees Cassandra, but instead of killing her, he takes her in his arms and says, "don't be afraid, girl. These people could have raised you to be a murderer. But we saved you. I'll take care of you." »

Do you have any idea what a psychological blow Cassandra would get if she saw something like that outside the door? She, who gave her whole life to protect the Corona, sees all the atrocities of her state. Sees by the King's orders to kill people just because they go against the government. Naturally, she ignites hatred to the Corona, and in particular - to Royal family, member of which is Rapunzel, and to his adopted father, which first brazenly killed real parents Cass, and then quietly took its under its wing. More than that, Cassandra's act - namely, the abduction of Opal - fits very well with the wording of the Separatists prophecy: "to Strike an unexpected blow to the Corona." Well, what do you think about this theory?

(I will insert here a picture from the magnificent @qu-r, because it is firstly beautiful, and secondly can be true.)

#tangled #tts spoilers #rta spoilers #tangled theory #tts cassandra #tts #rta #tangled the series #tts saporia

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padawanlost · 6 years

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Near the end of the Clone Wars, as seen in the Clovis arc in season 6 of TCW, the Chancellor's office had already nationalized the banks so the new chancellor would just have to do the same with Trade Federation, Techno Union etc. and imprison their corrupt leaders (if Vader killing them at Mustafar didn't happen cuz Sheev was removed earlier) for the immediate period of chaos after the war and use their assets for reconstruction. Using the wealth of the megacorps who profited from the war 1/2

2/2 would surely be met with approval from both Republic and Separatist planets. If then surviving Jedi like i.e. Yoda can be convinced to confess before the Senate that the whole war was a conspiracy of the Sith of which Sheev was a member to subjugate the galaxy, they might be able to forego another Civil War. The megacorps can then be released (specifically with completely new leadership) after the reconstruction period is finished on all planets. Their Senate seats go to Outer Rim worlds.

You heartis the right place but it’s not that simple. In the event of Palpatine beingunmasked as the corrupt Sith Lord, the right course of action would be to putall his actions as Chancellor and Senator under serious scrutiny. That meansthe extremely shady and illegal actions he took to take control over theBanking Clan should be put under investigation and eventually undone. His illegalactions should not become precedent for more illegal action otherwise theywouldn’t really be changing anything.

The problemwith taking control over the megarcorps is that they were private companies. You can’t just seized their assets. You canarrest the ones who broke the law and seize unlawfully obtained funds but you can’t just take everything. For you to imprison the leaders (and their funds) you would needproof they are guilty or else it’s unlawful incarceration, and gathering enoughevidence to take them all down at once takes time, resources and a government thathas not been corrupted to it is core. All things we can’t say about the Republicat the end of ROTS.

Seizing assetslike that – without due process – is the kind of thing that lead to moretrouble down the road. It harbors the kind of unhappiness the lead to new wars.So what sounds like a good economy decision right now will probably lead toeven further catastrophic in the near future. Besides, the megacorps were onlypart of the problem. Seizing their asset would be pointless to built a newRepublic if the Senate didn’t made peace with the CIS and it’s hard tonegotiate peace when you take all their money and make them pay for a war youtoo were involved.

The CISplanets were the poorest in the galaxy, the ones that have always been neglected by thepowerful members of Senate who profit from their misery. Now the Republic wonthe war and controls their funds. Why would they share it? Remember, theRepublic didn’t exist to help everyone. It was there to facilitate trading andlegislation between companies and worlds (economically viable worlds). And the corporationsthat you say should be punished were the same corporations backing theRepublic. The banking clan was backing the CIS and the Republic still made dealwith them because they needed them.

Also, youwould need mega corps to rebuild the galaxy. So all you would accomplish by seizingtheir accepts would be transferring the credits from one pocket to another. Andprobably make all the corporations wary of this new movement that is suddenly threatening their profit and business which in turn would make the Republic’seconomy unstable. Changing the leadership of these corporations by force would definitely be met with unhappiness too since that was not part of the Senate’spower. They could arrest a corrupt business owner but they couldn’t select thenew manager of private company.

Another problemwith this redistribution of wealth is that it only works when it’s result oflawful changes to the system. Before any of this was even possible, the way theRepublic operates would have to change and for that happen people running theRepublic would have to change first. And at that time, no one in power wantedit to change (at least not THAT much). Remember, that the only reason peoplestood up against Palpatine during ROTS was because he was threatening theirpower. Redistribution of wealth means redistribution of power and no one in thesenate was interested in that.

Peopleknowing about Palpatine wouldn’t change that either. The CIS’s grievances had nothingto do with Palpatine. Their movement was the result a thousands of years ofneglect. I doubt they forget about it because the guys leading them were SithLords. Without Palpatine there to play both sides against the middle the megacorpswould probably back down but the heart of the moment would remain. People wereunhappy and their happiness wouldn’t go away by the Republic rebuilding what theGAR destroyed. That’s why change is the key here. you can take their money and imprisontheir leaders but unless you rebuild the system from the ground up, fixing allissues that led to the wars no change will last.

Rebuild aworld takes more than credits. You can rebuild a building but if you don’t fixthe institutionalized issues that allowed that building to be destroyed in thefirst place, sooner or later, that building is coming down again.

Don’t getme wrong, the corporations that supported Palpatine’s plans for profit shouldbe punished. But you can’t take them out of the equation without also hurting theinterests of the Republic. The GFFA’s Republic doesn’t work the way our ownnational governments do. The senators are not there to serve every singlecitizen in the galaxy, they were there to protect their planets interests andin many cases their planets interests was the megacorps interests.

#ask #anon #gffa politics #AU #what if #txt #meta: palpatine

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