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i-think-in-metaphors · 9 months
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Guys you don’t understand The Sounds of Nightmares has caused my Little Nightmares hyperfixation to collide with my Underland Chronicles one! I have a whole au worked out some-else please take it off my hands I can’t afford another long fic
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thebluelemontree · 4 years
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Hey, sorry to be a bother but do you know any metas about Driftwood and the mythological significance of have Stranger called such? If not, could you please help me find any metas about the importance of Stranger (the horse and the god) to Sandor's future? Thank you!!
It’s no bother at all.  I love talking about this stuff.  I don’t recall any other metas specifically on that topic, but I do go into the meaning of Driftwood/Stranger in Part VI of my Winds prediction essay for Sandor.  I’m staying narrowly focused on your question here, but mythological significance branches out much farther and features heavily throughout each section of that essay if you have any further interest.     
And the seventh face … the Stranger was neither male nor female, yet both, ever the outcast, the wanderer from far places, less and more than human, unknown and unknowable. Here the face was a black oval, a shadow with stars for eyes. It made Catelyn uneasy. –  Catelyn IV, ACOK.  
Of the Seven, the Stranger is the one most regarded with fear for his/her association with death and the unknown.  He/she’s either depicted as a shrouded half-human, half-animal, or with a blacked-out void for a face.  Sandor has that thematic aesthetic going on with his hound’s head helm, which gives him the appearance of being both a man and a beast.  That is a reflection of the duality of his identity between Sandor and the Hound.  He frequently enters a scene by stepping out from the shadows, so he also fits with the shadowy figure version.  Sandor also isn’t one to allow others to know his true self, at least until Sansa, Arya, and the Elder Brother.  Rarely does any worshipper pray to the Stranger as few are eager to invite death itself in, of course.  It’s no wonder that the outcasts of society might identify with that lonely aspect of being an unwelcome presence and having nowhere to belong.  
For Sandor to give his horse such a blasphemous name, it’s because he views himself as someone who is feared and misunderstood, and as an outsider who stands on the outside looking in at the world.  This is especially true as he is immersed in the culture of knighthood but emphatically rebels against it.  There is much of ordinary life that is closed off to Sandor, and it’s not all due to his trauma response and poor coping skills alienating him from other people.  A lot of it is just unfair.  His perceived ugliness in a society that overwhelmingly favors physically beautiful people and despises disability or disfigurement has hindered his ability to create meaningful connections with others.  That resentment has only built up throughout his life.  He’s a second son who is forced to make his own way in the world since Gregor is the sole beneficiary of the Clegane lands and incomes.  It’s Gregor that got the home and wife (three to be exact), which is the domestic life that would normally ground a man, giving him a sense of purpose and satisfying his emotional needs.  Gregor doesn’t care for any of that, but there is a hint that Sandor feels this is something that has been denied him.  Since many people fail to distinguish Sandor as different from his brother, Gregor’s infamy and the rumors surrounding the deaths of his wives and family members really don’t help either.  After the BotBW, Sandor is really cut adrift from society by his desertion.  He’s unfairly marked as a craven, and then in a tragic case of mistaken identity is wanted for the rape and massacre of the Saltpans.  That’s about as hated and reviled as one can get.  
Like other instances of named horses being a reflection of their riders, Stranger’s nature says a lot about Sandor’s.  He’s proficient in battle, brave, disciplined, but extremely ill-tempered, and dangerous; however, with gentle handling from a master that has earned his trust, he’s able to respond in kind.
The horse was a heavy courser, almost as big as a destrier but much faster. Stranger, the Hound called him. Arya had tried to steal him once, when Clegane was taking a piss against a tree, thinking she could ride off before he could catch her. Stranger had almost bitten her face off. He was gentle as an old gelding with his master, but otherwise he had a temper as black as he was. She had never known a horse so quick to bite or kick.
There’s a bond there.  The horse isn’t just a tool or weapon to be used.  Sandor cares for this big, scary boy that no one else can get close to.  After rescuing Sansa from the riot, his next thought is to go back to find his horse in the chaos and fire.  Because Sandor gave him the name, it shows that he has the self-awareness of how his issues and anti-social behavior have only served to increase his sense of isolation and cement other people’s negative opinions.  The only reason an animal would so readily bite or kick indiscriminately is that it’s in constant fear of being hurt by people (*sob*).  It’s possible Sandor recognized a warhorse that was trained with brutal methods, not unlike his own childhood and adolescence.  One can imagine how much patience, kindness, and courage it took to bring such an ornery beast to the point where he can trust and reciprocate.            
People are more complicated than animals, of course; however, this is definitely meant to mirror his relationship with Sansa and her gentleness, compassion, and courage in the face of his anger issues.  Though not many are not keen on giving attention to the Stranger in their prayers, Sansa does pray for Sandor’s safety and well-being.  The Stranger is the last deity people turn to for comfort, and yet Sansa views Sandor as her protector and ally.  She wishes for his presence at times, even after seeing him at his worst.  And I love, love, love this line from Cersei about Sansa, who is deep into the unkiss rabbit hole at this point:
“… but before I am done with her, I promise you, she will be singing to the Stranger, begging for his kiss.“ – Cersei IV, AFFC.
So that brings us to Stranger’s renaming to Driftwood, but first, we need to ask what exactly is the Quiet Isle?  Quoting from Part IV of my essay:
“The Quiet Isle is also a place to cross over into the afterlife in more than one way.  Sometimes the dead and dying wash up on the shores, as did the Elder Brother.  Sometimes they are brought there like the Hound or the people of the Saltpans after the massacre to die or be healed.  The metaphoric and most common way is for penitents to abandon their old lives to be reborn in a new monastic life.  In a sense, the brothers on the isle are dead to the outside world.  They don’t speak with few exceptions.  Many cover their faces as well, obscuring their past identity.  Their brown robes and cowls are like the dead driftwood that washes up there, but even driftwood gets reborn as beautiful polished furniture and cups.  If you want to come on the Quiet Isle, you need Elder Brother’s or one of his proctor’s permission.  There’s a ferry to the isle which is evocative of Charon.  So that makes Elder Brother, like Garth Greenhand, a psychopomp.  He’s a gatekeeper between life and death, literal and metaphoric, and can also return people to the world of the living.  The imagery is evocative of the Elysian Fields and especially Avalon, where King Arthur was taken to recover from wounds sustained against Mordred at the Battle of Camlann and is destined to return from. ”  
Driftwood was dead and washed up, but then it is collected, reshaped and polished into something beautiful with a new purpose in its second life.  Driftwood in this context is a metaphor for healing and redemption.    
“The furnishings were strange but simple; a long table, a settle, a chest, several tall cases full of books, and chairs. All were made from driftwood, oddly shaped pieces cunningly joined together and polished till they shone a deep gold in the candlelight.” – Brienne VI, AFFC.
Amazing Grace, How sweet the soundThat saved a wretch like meI once was lost, but now am foundT'was blind but now I see
I zero doubts that Sandor’s character is undergoing a radical and profound transformation on the Quiet Isle.  He was broken down enough to be open to it when the Elder Brother picked him up from the shore of the Trident.  Also kinda miraculous that Stranger must have allowed himself to be led by another person while Sandor was incapacitated; however, it’s obvious Stranger is never going to spend the rest of his days as a plowhorse.  
Brother Narbert sighed. “The Seven send us blessings, and the Seven send us trials. Handsome he may be, but Driftwood was surely whelped in hell. When we sought to harness him to a plow he kicked Brother Rawney and broke his shinbone in two places. We had hoped gelding might improve the beast’s ill temper, but … Brother Gillam, will you show them?”
Brother Gillam lowered his cowl. Underneath he had a mop of blond hair, a tonsured scalp, and a bloodstained bandage where he should have had an ear. – Brienne VI, AFFC.  
This makes me laugh because although I believe Sandor has learned to have a healthier mindset through humble service and meaningful penance, he probably has been a veritable pill through the process.  As Stranger kicks and rebels, we should definitely conclude that Sandor’s time with the holy brothers is not permanent.  Especially considering that the horse adamantly refuses to be gelded, Sandor will not be submitting to the celibate life of a monk.  The new name likely won’t stick, because Sandor didn’t so much need a whole new identity, but to restore his original one.  The Hound is dead, but Sandor Clegane lives, polished and remade with a new purpose to his life.               
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snicketsleuth · 5 years
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Whatever happened to Mrs Widdershins?
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Fiona Widdershins' life was plagued with abandonment issues. Her birth father is unaccounted for, her mother died when she was very young, her only sibling disappeared and her stepather left her stranded on the Queequeg without so much as an explanation. It's no wonder that Fiona snapped when she finally got her brother back and decided to stay with him at all costs. It's the tragic tale of a broken childhood, and a broken family.
But the topic of Mrs Widdershins' untimely demise is interesting from a narrative point of view. Why did Daniel Handler decide to make Fiona and Fernald's mother such a big deal in the first place? Surely the tension between the Captain and Fernald was enough to explain the trauma inherent to the Widdershins family drama. Adding a mysteriously departed mom on top of it is kind of overkill.
The Netflix adaptation attempted to give us some resolution by turning Fernald into a lab assistant at Anwhistle Aquatics and giving the Captain the subplot of his wife's disappareance. That's all well and good, and satisfying from a narrative perspective, but the books have their own separate canon.
Surely there's a reason why this subplot was included in the books. Daniel Handler probably had a resolution in mind but decided not to include it (just like he never confirmed that Lemony was the taxi driver from "The Penultimate Peril", for example). So why did he think Mrs. Widdershins was important? What's the missing story behind her death? Her demise looms in the background of the Widdershins family dynamic like the missing piece of a very important puzzle. It seems inoccuous, but it's probably the key to understanding everything. So what really happened to her? And how would it help us rationalizing the actions of Fernald and his stepfather?
Although the following hypothesis will mostly focus on Mrs. Widdershins, we will also try to answer a number of burning questions regarding the Widdershins family, including but not limited to:
How did Fernald lose his hands?
Who killed Gregor Anwhistle?
Who burned down Anwhistle Aquatics?
Why did Fernald betray his stepfather and join Olaf's troupe?
More after the cut.
There are some interesting tidbits of chronology to be found in the Widdershins legacy, so let's try to organize events in the right order.
We don't know anything about Fernald's and Fiona's birth father. Apparently Handler chose to make the Captain their stepfather to better explain why the relationship between Fernald and the Captain turned sour so quickly. Indeed if you look at the chronology it turns out that the Captain is only older than Fernald by a few years. So basically the Captain became Fernald's stepfather when he had barely entered adulthood. Fernald probably never saw him as a proper authority figure, which would explain why his bossy attitude particularly annoyed him.
For more details on Fernald and the Captain's age, please refer to this article : (Link).
Although not traditional, the family was originally a happy one:
"I found something else," Violet said, handing her brother a crumpled square of paper. "Look." Klaus looked at what his sister had given him. It was a photograph, blurred and faded with four people, grouped together like a family. In the center of the photograph was a large man with a long mustache that was curved at the end like a pair of parentheses – Captain Widdershins, of course, although he looked much younger and a great deal happier than the children had ever seen him. He was laughing, and his arm was around someone the two Baudelaires recognized as the hook-handed man, although he was not hook-handed in the photograph – both of his hands were perfectly intact, one resting on the captain's shoulder, and the other pointing at whoever was taking the picture – and he was young enough to still be called a teenager, instead of a man. On the other side of the captain was a woman who was laughing as hard as the captain, and in her arms was a young infant with a tiny set of triangular glasses. [The Grim Grotto, Chapter Twelve]
This does beg the question: who took the photograph and towards whom is Fernald pointing? Who’s this assumed friend of the Widdershins family? More on that later.
Then the questionable death of Mrs Widdershins took place:
"Phil!" Violet cried. "What on earth are you doing here?" "He's the second of our crew of two!" the captain cried. "Aye! The original second in the crew of two was Fiona's mother, but she died in a manatee accident quite a few years ago." "I'm not so sure it was an accident," Fiona said. [The Grim Grotto, Chapter Two]
The Captain and Fernald seemed to get along well when Mrs. Widdershins was alive. Then the relationship changed.
"You?" said Olaf's henchman. "What happened to Widdershins?" "He disappeared from the submarine," Fiona replied. "We don't know where he is." "I don't care where he is," the hook-handed man sneered. "I couldn't care less about that mustached fool! He's the reason I joined Count Olaf in the first place! The captain was always shouting 'Aye! Aye! Aye!' and ordering me around! So I ran away and joined Olaf's acting troupe!" "But Count Olaf is a terrible villain!" Fiona cried. "He has no regard for other people. He dreams up treacherous schemes, and lures others into becoming his cohorts!" "Those are just the bad aspects of him," the hook-handed man said. "There are many good parts, as well. For instance, he has a wonderful laugh." [The Grim Grotto, Chapter Ten]
It’s jarring that Fernald cites the Captain’s behavior as the main reason he joined Count Olaf’s troupe. Why would he suddenly resent his stepfather when he used to actually like him? In fact, he seems to think so little of him that he considers Olaf an upgrade. What made Fernald change his mind about his stepfather so quickly? There could be three explanations for this: either the Captain’s behavior changed dramatically after his wife’s death, or Fernald learned something about the Captain which redefined the relationship entirely. The third option is that Mrs. Widdershins’ death was so traumatic an ordeal that it severed any affection between Fernald and the Captain.
As one can imagine, it’s easy to posit that these three hypotheses could combine themselves. There are things about Mrs. Widdershins’ death which Fiona does not know and which severely damaged the bond between a stepfather and his stepson. A huge disagreement occurred over her untimely end, and feelings were hurt. Now there’s one legitimate reason for Fernald to be upset at the Captain: he’s lying about the true circumstances of his wife’s death. Fiona was already questioning the official version while she was devoted to V.F.D. and her stepdad, so it’s safe to assume that Fernald does not believe this story either.
Although Fernald's eventual defection clearly has much to do with what happened at Anwhistle Aquatics, it's clear that the death of Mrs Widdershins is equally important in the matter. Is it possible that the two events are linked? In fact, it's likely. The composition of the Queequeg's crew of two is especially revealing:
"Aye! The original second in the crew of two was Fiona's mother, but she died in a manatee accident quite a few years ago." [...] "Then we had Jacques!" the captain continued. "Aye, and then what's-his-name, Jacques's brother, and then a dreadful woman who turned out to be a spy, and finally we have Phil! Although I like to call him Cookie! I don't know why!" [The Grim Grotto, Chapter Two]
Now there is someone apparently missing from this list: Fernald. After his mother died, it would seem likely that her son would replace her as the second-in-command in the crew of two. Fernald remembers the Captain bossing him around. It's possible that Fernald was indeed a member of the Crew of Two and that the Captain is omitting him out of shame, but that’s unlikely. You see, Fiona is in the room with the Captain while he is listing these people. If he had “forgotten” to name Fernald, she would have corrected him immediately. But no, the list appears to be correct in Fiona’s own assessment. For some reason, Fernald was NEVER considered a member of the Crew of Two, even though he was old enough and had the qualifications. The Captain immediately replaced Mrs. Widdershins with Jacques Snicket.
And that’s really telling, because we know Jacques was occupying this position at a time where Fernald was already part of Count Olaf’s troupe. Here’s a passage from a letter which Jacques sent Lemony from the Queequeg. At that point in time, Fernald was probably starring in Olaf’s play “One last warning to those who try to stand in my way”:
Under normal circumstances, new volunteers like ourselves would not receive disguise training until our years of apprenticeship were finished, but we have not been under normal circumstances for quite some time. For instance, currently I am under sixty feet of water, rather than under normal circumstances. [Lemony Snicket’s un-Authorized Autobiography, p.96]
The two actresses playing the Defenders of Liberty now have their faces painted a ghastly white color, and the part of the Little Snicket Lad, once played by the young actor pictured here, has been replaced by a sinister-looking person far too old for the part (also pictured here). [Lemony Snicket’s un-Authorized Autobiography, p.78] [NB: The picture in question depicts a young man in a fedora who looks eerily similar to the way Brett Helquist draws Fernald in the official illustrations of the original editions]
And that means something very significant: that Fernald left the Queequeg a short time after his mother’s death, to the point that he was never considered a second in the Crew of Two. As we know, Fiona is barely older than Violet even though she was born before Lemony’s and Beatrice’s break-up (that is, before Jacques became a secon-in-command in the Crew of Two).
So we've established, chronologically, that the fire at Anwhistle Aquatics and Mrs. Widdershins' demise are part of the same debacle. Is there a reason for a second in the Queequeg's Crew of Two to be involved in Gregor Anwhistle's research?
Potentially yes. Anwhistle Aquatics, for some reason, was built upon a subterranean grotto which could only be accessed by deep-sea divers. You'd need a submarine to get there. The grotto was arranged to conceal specimens of the Medusoid Mycellium securely: the spores can't travel by water, so making sure that only deep-sea divers can access it makes complete sense. Shortly after they visit the grotto, Violet and Klaus are able to safely contain the infestation in a submarine helmet. It's probably the only way safe for the fungus to be handled. Therefore, in order to make his experiments on the Medusoid Mycelium securely, Gregor Anwhistle would need constant access to a V.F.D. submarine and its crew, making long trips from the research center to the grotto.
This is why we need to understand what truly happened during the fire. The Queequeg's crew didn't just have access to Gregor Anwhistle's research center: they were heavily involved in it. They knew exactly what he was doing and the Widdershins family perhaps even had a hand in it.
So let's imagine that Mrs Widdershins wasn't just a submarine operator. She was a scholar. She was one of Gregor Anwhistle's assistants, and, more importantly, one of his accomplices. Gregor Anwhistle took the photograph of the Widdershins family.
"I think the ruby ring is very in," Esmé purred. "It would look wonderful with my flame-imitating dress." "That was my mother's," Fiona said quietly. "She would have wanted me to have it Esmé said quickly. "We were close friends at school." [The Grim Grotto, Chapter Thirteen]
And if you think that's doubtful, ask yourself this: why is Fiona a mycologist? And why does the Queequeg's library contains so much information on mushrooms in general and the Medusoid Mycellium in particular? This library is a legacy of Mrs Widdershin's works on the Medusoid Mycellium. She knew everything. And that is exactly why Kit Snicket targetted the Widdershins family when she reached a disagreement with Gregor Anwhistle. Kit definitely had Gregor Anwhistle murdered. The reason she specifically asked the Captain and Fernald to commit this crime is because they had easy access to Anwhistle Aquatics (through their submarine) and to Gregor (through Mrs Widdershins).
Violet smiled. "Precisely," she said. "A Hobson 's choice is something that's not a choice at all. It's an expression our mother used to use. She'd say, 'I'll give you a Hobson's choice, Violet – you can clean your room or I will stand in the doorway and sing your least favorite song over and over.' "  Fiona grinned. "What was your least favorite song?" she asked. " 'Row, Row, Row Your Boat,' " Violet said. "I hate the part about life being but a dream." "She'd offer me the Hobson's choice of doing the dishes or reading the poetry of Edgar Guest," Klaus said. "He's my absolute least favorite poet." "Bath or pink dress," Sunny said. "Did your mother always joke around like that?" Fiona asked. "Mine used to get awfully mad if I didn't clean my room." "Our mother would get mad, too," Klaus said. "Remember, Violet, when we left the window of the library open, and that night it rained?" [The Grim Grotto, Chapter Seven]
We may never know what truly happened at Anwhistle Aquatics that terrible night. We can only makes hypotheses. But here's our proposition.
Kit Snicket eventually realized Gregor wouldn't listen to reason. In order to stop his bioweapon project, she needed to come up with a way to burn down Anwhistle Aquatics and murder Gregor. That way, the research would be lost forever. Kit then reached out to the Captain, who had both access to the research center and a wife who was part of Gregor's inner circle. The Captain accepted the mission and even enlisted the help of his stepson. He told Fernald that his mother was under a corrupting influence and that she had been brainwashed by Gregor. She needed to be saved from herself.
In the final analysis – a phrase which here means "after much thought, and some debate with my colleagues" – Captain Widdershins was wrong about a great many things. He was wrong about his personal philosophy, because there are plenty of times when one should hesitate. He was wrong about his wife's death, because as Fiona suspected, Mrs. Widdershins did not die in a manatee accident. He was wrong to call Phil "Cookie" when it is more polite to call someone by their proper name, and he was wrong to abandon the Queequeg, no matter what he heard from the woman who came to fetch him. Captain Widdershins was wrong to trust his stepson for so many years, and wrong to participate in the destruction of Anwhistle Aquatics, and he was wrong to insist, as he did so many years ago, that a story in The Daily Punctilio was completely true, and to show this article to so many volunteers, including the Baudelaire parents, the Snicket siblings, and the woman I happened to love. But Captain Widdershins was right about one thing. He was right to say that there are secrets in this world too terrible for young people to know, for the simple reason that there are secrets in this world too terrible for anyone to know, whether they are as young as Sunny Baudelaire or as old as Gregor Anwhistle, secrets so terrible that they ought to be kept secret, which is probably how the secrets became secrets in the first place, and one of those secrets is the long, strange shape the Baudelaire orphans saw, first on the Queequeg's sonar, and then as they held the porthole in place and stared out into the waters of the sea. [The Grim Grotto, Chapter Thirteen]
The Captain betrayed his wife's confidence by sneaking into the research center to set a fire while Fernald murdered Gregor. Then they retreated to the safety of the Queequeg. However things didn't go as planned. Instead of fleeing the flames, Mrs Widdershins threw herself into them. She was desperately trying to save Gregor's research in order to duplicate it. In spite of her family's insistence, she never came back to the Queequeg. She died in the fire. Fernald and the Captain agreed to never tell Fiona what had transpired.
"Our stepfather knew Jacques Snicket," Fiona said. "He was a good man, but Count Olaf murdered him. Are you a murderer, too? Did you kill Gregor Anwhistle?" In grim silence, the hook-handed man held his hooks in front of the children. "The last time you saw me," he said to Fiona, "I had two hands, instead of hooks. Our stepfather probably didn't tell you what happened to me – he always said there were secrets in this world too terrible for young people to know. What a fool!" "Our stepfather isn't a fool," Fiona said. "He's a noble man. Aye!" "People aren't either wicked or noble," the hook-handed man said. "They're like chef's salads, with good things and bad things chopped and mixed together in a vinaigrette of confusion and conflict." [The Grim Grotto, Chapter Ten]
This is why the relationship between the Captain  and Fernald never recovered. Fernald could never forgive the Captain for starting the fire which killed his mother. Although the Captain certainly never intended for Mrs Widdershins to die, his responsability in his wife's death was inevitable.
Interestingly this tragic death would explain A LOT about Fernald's decision to join Olaf's troupe. After all, one can understand why killing Gregor Anwhistle was necessary. It's morally ambiguous, for sure, but it's not a good enough reason to join a criminal gang. But if you add the trauma of losing a mother on top of this shady assassination, things start to make more sense. You see, Fernald and Olaf had a big thing in common: both lost parental figures in a shady assassination scheme orchestrated by members of V.F.D. The Baudelaire parents killed Olaf's parents at a opera house. Count Olaf used this connection, this proximity in background, to warp Fernald's feelings. He turned him against his stepfather and V.F.D. in general by sharing some aspects of his own backstory.
"Fiona!" the hook-handed man cried. "Is it really you?" "Aye," the mycologist said, taking off her triangular glasses to wipe away her tears. "I never thought I would see you again, Fernald. What happened to your hands?" "Never mind that," the hook-handed man said quickly. "Why are you here? Did you join Count Olaf, too?" [The Grim Grotto, Chapter Ten]
It would also explain why Fernald is reluctant to share some aspects of his past with Fiona (such as the way he lost his hands, for example) even though she knows about the Anwhistle fire. Although she's begun to scratch the surface, there are simply aspects of the murder which are worse than she thinks and which Fernald is not ready to divulge. Indeed Fiona could very much blame both Fernald and the Captain for her mother's death. Her stepbrother fears that. It's likely that the reason he lost his hands has as much to do with their mother than it has to do with Gregor. If we had to guess, we'd say he burned his hands trying to rescue his mother at Anwhistle Aquatics.
What makes this theory credible is the cover story which the Captain used to explain away his wife's disappearance. More specifically, it involves a manatee. And a manatee shows up in another dubious disappearance story :
"Have you lived your whole life on this island?" Klaus said. "Yes," Friday said. "My mother and father took an ocean cruise while she was pregnant, and ran into a terrible storm. My father was devoured by a manatee, and my mother was washed ashore when she was pregnant with me. You'll meet her soon. Now please hurry up and change." [The End, Chapter Three]
"Oh, Ish," he said, his eyes shining bright, "I told you many years ago that I would triumph over you someday, and at last that day has arrived. My associate with the weekday for a name told me that you were still hiding out on this island, and–" "Thursday," Mrs. Caliban said. Olaf frowned, and blinked at the freckled woman. "No," he said. "Monday. She was trying to blackmail an old man who was involved in a political scandal." [The End, Chapter Eleven]
However this story is later proven to be untrue: Miranda Caliban and her husband were on opposite side of the schism which divided the island. Thursday left with the Baudelaire parents, while Miranda remained on the Island with their daughter. She made up the entire story. It's a little too much of a coincidence that two different disappareance cover-up stories share the exact same weird detail about a manatee.
"Have you been here before?" Violet asked. "No," Kit said, "but I've heard about this place. My associates have told me stories of its mechanical wonders, its enormous library, and the gourmet meals the islanders prepare. Why, the day before I met you, Baudelaires, I shared Turkish coffee with an associate who was saying that he'd never had better Oysters Rockefeller than during his time on the island. You must be having a wonderful time here." "Janiceps," Sunny said, restating an earlier opinion. "I think this place has changed since your associate was here," said Klaus. "That's probably true," Kit said thoughtfully. "Thursday did say that the colony had suffered a schism, just as V.F.D. did." "Another schism?" Violet asked. "Countless schisms have divided the world over the years," Kit replied in the darkness. "Do you think the history of V.F.D. is the only story in the world? Bu: let's not talk of the past, Baudelaires. Tell me how you made your way to these shores." [The End, Chapter Eight]
"Occasionally someone leaves," Ishmael said, and looked down at the Incredibly Deadly Viper, who gave him a brief hiss. "Some time ago, two women sailed off with this very snake, and a few years later, a man named Thursday left with a few comrades." "So Thursday is alive," Klaus said, "just like Kit said." "Yes," Ishmael admitted, "but at my suggestion, Miranda told her daughter that he died in a storm, so she wouldn't worry about the schism that divided her parents." "Electra," Sunny said, which meant "A family shouldn't keep such terrible secrets," but Ishmael did not ask for a translation. "Except for those troublemakers," he said, "everyone has stayed here. And why shouldn't they? Most of the castaways are orphans, like me, and like you. [The End, Chapter Ten]
At this point, it seems more likely to be one of those memetic code phrases which V.F.D. likes to use. "Eaten by a manatee" is a slang term that adult volunteers use to hide something horrible from their children. So what does "eaten by a manatee" mean, exactly? Surely it doesn't mean "dead", as Thursday was clearly alive and well when Miranda started spouting those lies. "Eaten by a manatee" is not used to cover up deaths, it's used to cover up betrayals. Instead of telling young volunteers that someone went to the other side of the schism, parents tell them the person was "eaten by a manatee". It's the ultimate way to sever the parental bond. It's common to tell someone who betrayed you: "you're dead to me". V.F.D. takes the expression to its literal extreme.
So when the Captain affirms that his wife was eaten by a manatee, he means that she actually betrayed the organization. It's not obvious because she didn't go to Olaf's side of the schism (as Fernald did later) but rather to the other side of another schism: that is, she chose Gregor's side in his feud against Kit Snicket. There are indeed multiple schisms within the history of V.F.D. The schism between the "noble" and "villainous" side is the first one and the most important one, but the "noble" side suffered other disagreements: Ishmael vs the Baudelaire parents on the Island, Kit vs Gregor, Lemony vs his mentors in "All The Wrong Questions", Dashiell and Theodora vs Gifford and Ghede, etc.
And on that topic, the newspaper clipping which Violet Baudelaire found in the grotto is especially revealing:
" 'VERIFYING FERNALD'S DEFECTION,' " she said, reading the headline out loud, and then continued by reading the byline, a word which here means "name of the person who wrote the article." "By Jacques Snicket. It has now been confirmed that the fire that destroyed Anwhistle Aquatics, and took the life of famed ichnologist Gregor Anwhistle, was set by Fernald Widdershins, the son of the captain of the Queequeg submarine. The Widdershins family's participation in a recent schism has raised several questions regarding..." Violet looked up and met the glare of Olaf's henchman. "The rest of the article is blurry," she said, "but the truth is clear. You defected – you abandoned V.F.D. and joined up with Olaf!" [The Grim Grotto; Chapter Ten]
Violet missed the point of the article entirely. The text clearly mentions a “recent” schism; that is, not the original one which happened while Dewey and Kit were about four years old and which split the organization into two. The “recent” schism is clearly the one which divided the “noble” volunteers into Gregor’s followers and Gregor’s adversaries. And note that this is the “Widdershins family” who is involved in that particular schism; not just Fernald.
"You should have seen the fire," he said quietly. "From a distance, it looked like an enormous black plume of smoke, rising straight out of the water. It was like the entire sea was burning down." "You must have been proud of your handiwork," Fiona said bitterly. "Proud?" the hook-handed man said. "It was the worst day of my life. That plume of smoke was the saddest thing I ever saw." He speared the newspaper with his other hook and ripped the article into shreds. "The Punctilio got everything wrong," he said. "Captain Widdershins isn't my father. Widdershins isn't my last name. And there's much more to the fire than that. You should know that the Daily Punctilio doesn't tell the whole story, Baudelaires. Just as the poison of a deadly fungus can be the source of some wonderful medicines, someone like Jacques Snicket can do something villainous, and someone like Count Olaf can do something noble. Even your parents –" [The Grim Grotto; Chapter Ten]
As Fernald warns the Baudelaire orphans, the newspaper clipping is propaganda meant to disguise the volunteer’s more questionable behaviours. It purposedly fails to mention that the Captain helped start the destruction of Anwhistle Aquatics, for example. So the author clearly wants us to question the official narrative. And for some reason, as Fernald starts defending his own version of the events, he starts spewing unsavory revelations about the Baudelaire parents. Why would he do that? Is he projecting his own family issues on the Baudelaire legacy? That would be fitting. We already know that the Captain did morally questionable things for V.F.D. It’s not a big leap to assume that his wife committed some crimes of her own.
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littlestgamer · 5 years
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ajosies-main-blog replied to your post “I wanna talk about my bois and daughters, pls someone give me a reason”
Mk what made you fall in love with your husbandos?
Oh boy this is an interesting one to go back and look into let’s see:
Start off with the least compelling:
Gaius- I fell in love with him because of THAT STUPID LINE HE SAYS WHEN YOU MARRY HIM. Yes the ‘river of chocolate in an ocean of cream’ line actually won me over to the dumb goober! I was going through my 3rd playthrough of Awakening and I was playing as myself that round and also decided on making Henry my permanent husband. So I went and did the in battle save trick to S support all the non child unit males before I got to marry Henry so I would have their S support for the support log (In the end I forgot to S support Gregor rip). And then I got to Gaius. I found his support cute, but nothing too noteworthy since I didn’t read much of his supports before that (I um... didn’t recruit him my first playthough and my second one I think I only did one support for him). But then the S support CG played and I was stunned. “Did this guy just use such a corny line? And make me a blushing mess???? WAT???????” So while I didn’t marry him cause I was still set on Henry, I did feel kind of sad having him marry off to another character. So I went and grinded through his other supports when I did another playthrough as Male robin and went “Oh god I love two guys here.” Also seeing his reaction to the swimsuit along with his support with Henry in the Summer scramble DLC it was so fun and cute (Also if he’s married to the player for this DLC he will kiss them during the support convo). And that’s the story about how a thief won me over.
Kaden- First off let me say I have quite a few playthroughs on Fates since I played all three paths. I didn’t really look for a character to really consider the one I like the most until Revelations (Birthright was fun, aside from not knowing Kaze needed that A support >.> and playing Conquest right after gave me depression) so, spoiler alert, Kaden dies in Conquest and Keaton dies in Birthright, so I never got to really felt like experimenting with which guys I might like the most until I had all of them together in Revelations. (granted another might have taken the husband spot if not for a big glaring detail of Fates that I couldn’t get myself to overlook). But back to talking about Kaden. Kaden’s supports I didn’t really get to until Revelations and I liked them a lot. I liked how helpful he was and determined to return any favors. His caring personality is something you don’t often see with characters that have a touch of narcissism. Usually the kind and caring traits need some digging into the character to get to, but Kaden has it right there in his introduction for Birthright and Revelations. It’s also cute how he tries to responsibly spoil Selkie. He loves his daughter and wants to spoil her rotten, but knows that there are things she has to be told not to do, such as hunting excessively (she hunted 50 birds in one day but Kaden explained that she can’t do that all the time since it would cause their food supply to go away) or trying to keep her from running off on her own where he can’t trace her scent (he doesn’t want to restrict her freedom but also knows that poachers are a thing. Though Kaden pls you should really sit down and talk to her about what poachers are cause there’s about 3 times she gets caught and doesn’t realize the danger she’s in pls I want my child safe).Basically, Kaden won me over with kindness. And also he was a wonderful unit to use which helped a lot.
Keaton- Keaton was the winner of the husband search for Fates, yay! Reading his supports, it was so cute seeing how he would try to share his treasures to people, even if they mostly didn’t like it. And he was willing to give them up in his marriage to the player (no you can keep them sweetie, we royalty we can have a room dedicated for it). His tail wagging always being the giveaway to how he’s really feeling was extremely adorable to me. Him basically trying to adapt to the other people in the army to try and be friends with them. He’s a big softie despite how tough he acts sometimes and I love it. And not gonna lie, I kinda like the darker elements to his personality that he has, which you know explains the next one.
Henry- This man. He heard me mentally write him off and said “I’mma hex my way into your heart.” Okay, when I first recruited him, I did not care. I figured he was just the morbid jokester character that often doesn’t have many redeeming qualities and usually revolves around happily making people uncomfortable. So because I love the “opposites attract” trope and saw he could S support with Maribelle, I went with that since I figured that it would be entertaining. My expectations were shattered and replaced with something better. I won’t say what my entire expectation was, but I was expecting it to be a situation where Maribelle and Henry would have to come to a mutual understanding on things. So when I ended up getting what we get with Maribelle/Henry’s support, I was pleasantly surprised. Henry does have a reasonable view of mortality,even if he expresses it in a way most people won’t like. Him working with Maribelle to help quell her fears of death was not something I expected. So on my second playthrough, I went through more of his supports (though he married Tharja in the end on that one, I’m sorry Noire) and I was interested in how he developed. Learning that he had a lot of childhood trauma, learning how he’s actually coping through most of the pain he endured, and then also having him literally beg to not be abandoned in one of them. And a big thing was also his willingness to learn why his view on killing people and having bystanders die in the crossfire is morally wrong. And when he’s told why, he listens while also occasionally giving good points that defend why he thinks the way he does sometimes. Just he doesn’t like orders that tell him not to fight the enemy at all. He also provided a point of view from the Plegian’s side that Tharja’s supports didn’t cover as much. In Henry’s support with Ricken, you learn that the Plegians are not all some enemy goons that just need to be taken down, you learn that most of them had families, hobbies and dreams for the future. But the reason Henry had no problem turning on them was because he never felt close to them. And yet, Henry does care for the people in the Ylissian army, to the point where he says if Ricken were to die, he would likely go on a rampage. So then you’re left wondering how bad things are for the country as a whole for Plegia and maybe kind of wondering what would it be like if we got more of a PoV from the Plegians that weren’t only from the main villains pov. And Ricken’s support is not the only one where he shows he cares about people. With Miriel, in the A support Henry helped out a pregnant woman who was carrying a lot of stuff and afterwards basically said “Man it’s stupid how they have to go through this, I’m gonna create a curse to help mothers everywhere and will make the kids out of thin air. Boom no more 9 months of grief.”  Olivia’s support is where he gets his constant smile unmasked. Those moments when he’s not sure if she was still alive and you see that he’s actually sad and fearful of the people he cares about dying on him. He’s not a bad person, but his situation growing up has definitely lead to some moral conflicts with others. Bah, there’s much more I could talk about. He had more depth to him than I expected and now I’m married to him and he laughs at me for how much I love him when I was ready to not give him the time of day.
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alliluyevas · 7 years
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@goodnightgoodnight asked: Stannis, Sansa, and Sandor
STANNIS
First impression: okay so the first chapter of A Clash Of Kings was the first part of ASOIAF that I read, it was a friend’s copy that she was reading and I picked it up when she didn’t have it and I just got sucked into it…the prologue with Cressen and Mel and Davos and the relationship between the Baratheon brothers and STANNIS everything about Stannis as a character and the whole situation was incredibly compelling to me. So I finished that chapter which was like a whole saga in of itself and then my friend wanted her book back and about a year later I started watching the show and then I read the books and the rest is history.
Impression now: my grumpy and melancholic son and still the best king Westeros has available
Favorite moment: honestly like any moment when he shows emotional vulnerability I instantly start crying…when he’s angsting over Renly giving him a peach…
Idea for a story: any Stannis + Shireen interaction
Unpopular opinion: Stannis is the best option for king and a deserving person and deeply sympathetic character
Favorite relationship: Stannis and his brothers or Stannis and Davos depending on what sort of pain I’m looking for…bittersweet heavy on the bitter or the sweet
Favorite headcanon: autistic Stannis ftw (and autistic     Shireen!!)
SANSA
 First impression: she’s so pretty lmao…and then instantly feeling for her as a Vulnerable And Traumatized Girl
Impression now: my love…the most wonderful…also honestly if I had to place a bet she’s the character I’d bet money on surviving the series I just KNOW thematically and spiritually that she will
Favorite moment: when she comforts the other women during the siege of Kings’ Landing honestly like even though she’s so tired and scared she PULLS IT TOGETHER TO HELP EVERYONE ELSE SHE IS TRULY THE BEST…an icon
Idea for a story: Sansa and Sandor and Jaime and Brienne all interacting…my faves…and so much potential
Unpopular opinion: Sansa is wonderful and deserves all the good things
Favorite relationship: hehe SanSan
Favorite headcanon: Sansa is also bi tbh
SANDOR
First impression: I honestly didn’t think much of him until his Horrible Childhood Trauma Backstory and his relationship with Sansa started to develop and then I mcfreaking lost it
Impression now: my large and emotional son, he’s trying his best
Favorite moment: when he tells Sansa about what Gregor did to him and he opens up to her and she shows compassion and love to him even though he scared her previously…I die one thousand times…also on a side note FUCK the show for giving Sandor’s Traumatic Background Reveal to Littlefinger it cheapened it SO much WHY would y’all not let him tell his own story it was such a powerful moment between him and Sansa
Idea for a story: anything with teenage immediately post-rebellion Jaime and Sandor interacting
 Unpopular opinion: I think it’s kind of disrespectful for people (in the fandom) to call him “The Hound” all the time like…it’s not as bad as when people call Tyrion the Imp but it’s still kind of a pet peeve…it’s like, totally disregarding the impact of his story and that he has a name and isn’t an animal (even though he loves animals). Also I feel like people give him a lot of shit for saying that Bran would be better off dead after his accident and I think that’s coming from internalized ableism and self-loathing more than anything, like people hold him and Jaime almost equally accountable for saying that and their context is completely different.
Favorite relationship: Take A Wild Guess
Favorite headcanon: Sandor has never been kissed
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do the lannisters know how sandor received his burns? or that gregor killed his father and possibly his sister?
The question is more like “do the Lannisters know how Sandor really received his burns?”  No, no one knows the real story except Sansa.  Sandor’s father told everyone it was an accident.  The official account was that his bedding had caught fire, which the maester that treated him probably corroborated.  Six-or-seven-year-old Sandor was in no position to correct the lie.  Years go by, and adult Sandor never speaks of it.  He says the other Lannister soldiers assumed his burns must have been sustained in battle, with one of the more fanciful theories involving a dragon.  Sandor would never have repeated the vile lie his father told, nor give credence to any lie that absolves Gregor of responsibility, even if he doesn’t want to tell anyone the true story.  He would have dealt with any curiosity by quickly shutting it down with violent threats; however, those are fellow soldiers, not his masters.        
The Hound caught her by the arm and leaned close. “The things I told you tonight,” he said, his voice sounding even rougher than usual. “If you ever tell Joffrey … your sister, your father … any of them …”
This tells us the Lannisters don’t know how he was really burned and he doesn’t want them to know.  That “any of them” would also include the queen, who Sansa emulates.  Tywin must have accepted Sandor’s father’s version years before Sandor came into his service at around eleven-years-old, but more likely the subject was never reopened because it was simply of no importance.  Why would something that happened in a lowly retainer’s childhood matter to either Tywin or Cersei?  He’s not a person to them, and it has already been explained.  Case closed.  What matters is that this big, angry, desperate kid can be put to use.  
Likewise for Gregor.  Since Gregor promptly inherited the Clegane lands and continued reaping all the rewards and privileges, the story of the hunting accident that killed his father was accepted by his liege lord.  We don’t know any details of when or how the sister died, but Ned does the math for us and lets us know there is a suspiciously high rate of accidents and misfortunes in the Clegane household:
Ned seldom put much stock in gossip, but the things said of Ser Gregor were more than ominous. He was soon to be married for the third time, and one heard dark whisperings about the deaths of his first two wives. It was said that his keep was a grim place where servants disappeared unaccountably and even the dogs were afraid to enter the hall. And there had been a sister who had died young under queer circumstances, and the fire that had disfigured his brother, and the hunting accident that had killed their father. Gregor had inherited the keep, the gold, and the family estates. His younger brother Sandor had left the same day to take service with the Lannisters as a sworn sword, and it was said that he had never returned, not even to visit.
It’s an open secret, and the subject of gossip spread far enough to reach Ned's ears; however, no one is daring to accuse Gregor of these crimes, and no one is looking into it.  It is interesting that Ned intuitively includes Sandor’s burns in the sum total of all these incidents, despite the official account made by Sandor’s father long ago.  As his liege lord, meting out that justice would have been Tywin’s responsibility.  One thing is certain, somewhere along the way, Tywin saw in Ser Gregor a particularly useful type of scumbag that was too good to put to the noose.  A sadistic, kinslaying pile of garbage who is all too happy to be pointed in the direction of his next target.  He has no conscience and is unfettered by any sense of personal honor.  That realization must have come rather quickly after the father’s “accident.”  One year later, a seventeen-year-old Gregor murders Princess Elia and her children during Robert’s Rebellion assuredly on Tywin’s orders.  Even though the identity of the guilty parties are not a matter of historical record, it is common knowledge at the Rock that it was Gregor and Amory Lorch.  Furthermore, it’s Gregor that Tywin sends to terrorize the smallfolk in the Riverlands in AGOT under the guise of common brigands.  Gregor gladly gets his hands dirty so his master doesn’t have to.  Having no honor or regard for his vows, Gregor will never balk at a command to kill the weak and innocent.  The fear Gregor instills in Tywin’s enemies is a valuable asset.  In return, the Lannisters let him get away with bonus murders like his wives and servants, so as long as the victims are of no consequence and it never blows back on them.  Is it any wonder why Sandor didn’t trust his masters with the knowledge that Gregor was responsible for his burns?  They have no empathy, no interest in justice, and Sandor would have to see his trauma swept under the rug all over again while Gregor gets off scot-free.                          
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