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leosdooley · 2 years
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LIVING THROUGH MEMORIES.
thomas campbell // suzanne collins, gregor and the code of claw // czesław miłosz, the issa valley // vladimir nabokov // antonio porchia // l.m. montgomery, the story girl
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Just some things I think deserve a super accurate movie/show adaption in a beautiful 2D animation style:
The How to Train Your Dragon series
Gregor the Overlander
Artemis Fowl
The Adventure Zone
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Frankenstein or the Modern Prometheus
The Wonderful Wizard of Oz (fr so much was left out of the 1939 film!)
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking-Glass
The actual Little Mermaid story (there are a ton of adaptations I haven't seen yet so maybe it exists somewhere but we all know Disney’s didn’t even come close)
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prophecyofgray · 9 days
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HAPPY BAT APPRECIATION DAY!
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aldoodles · 7 months
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And you say ‘as long as I’m here, no one can hurt you’
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looking at suzanne collins’ list of published novels like yeah. she rly wrote the most fucked up middle grade series ever in which she traumatized a random impoverished 11 year old from new york city by throwing him into a war against giant rats with his 2 year old sister by his side, went on to write a fucked up young adult series about a dystopian revolution that radicalized many gen z kids and opened our eyes to the way our government tries to distract us from senseless killing with spectacle. and thats it! what a queen. wrote two incredibly good series then went “no, i will not elaborate” and kept on living her life.
anyway guys if you like the hunger games and/or really liked animorphs, PLEASE read the underland chronicles. they’re so fucking underappreciated considering how popular the hunger games is.
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quohotos · 8 months
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The way that poverty has affected Gregor is omnipresent. He knows how to care for people and how to make food because his parents can't afford a sitter. He goes to the underland and suddenly he's among royalty and wealth. He remarks how when it's not about to go to war the underland is actually a nice escape from his life. When they're all forced to eat raw fish he notes how he's never been able to have sushi before.
I love how it's not something that just gets solved. Even when Vikus gives them cash in the clock it doesn't *last*. His mom says, "We're going to pay all the bills, and then we're going to have Christmas!". That's so *real*. Like, the series is fantasy but Gregor is still *forced* to live in the real world.
There's also this whole parallel between Ares and Gregor. Both of them were just nobodies having to live on the margins of society until someone wealthy finds a use for you. For Gregor it's Luxa, for Ares it was Henry.
Okay, so this isn't the most well put together or thought out of my rants but... Aughghfhg. The book with the giant sexy rat and the spider that makes you slippers is so god damn *real*.
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bubblesandpages · 7 months
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I greatly admire Suzanne Collins goal to never explain any of her stories. She just drops them and goes.
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dishsaop · 1 year
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i like the Hunger Games a lot but im always gonna be a little bitter it took off when her Underland Chronicles never did. those books were so good and so fucked up. snippets of spoilers for a 20 year old book series for middle schoolers ahead:
cockroaches the size of horses who talk and are actually super chill and great babysitters for human toddlers. these books are the only reason i dont have nightmares about cockroaches anymore
cannibalism happens a lot. at one point a rat the size of a bison says "man go ahead and eat your dead friend, we wont judge" to a spider, who then proceeds to eat her dead friend. everyone but the rat judges.
another rat, who is still relatively a baby, is found later eating his babysitter's liver in an attempt to hide the body.
dude, pandoras death was so fucked up. "wow an island! im starving im gonna have a snack. brb guys" flies a little bit over, is immediately devoured in seconds by bugs and her skeleton crashes into the jungle below
plague book! humans try to commit genocide and blame it on bugs
hey. hey eleven year old. kill this tiny baby screaming for his mother. he sounds just like your baby sister you think just died horribly. kill this baby with a sword. you didnt? you didnt kill a sobbing baby who watched his mother die? we're putting you on trial for treason and will execute you
baby rat gone insane, now 15' tall and leading an army, ripping the head off of his friend/gaslighter, immediately heartbreakingly asking where she went, and then finding the head and accusing a twelve year old boy of doing it
dude gregor is eleven and in the first book willingly leaps off a cliff to his death (despite it being his worst fear) in the hopes itll stop his two year old sister boots from being graphically torn apart and eaten, like he has seen happen to others
thalia's death. they dont just kill unnamed children (they do absolutely kill a lot of unnamed babies onscreen) they also kill beloved named children
"the fireflies had to gnaw ares' claw off of his corpse bc you wouldnt let go of your friends claw. its been almost three weeks and the viscera has dried and glued it to your grip. we cant get it off without breaking your finger. you gotta let go of your friends corpse, twelve year old boy"
twitchtip.
forcing the twelve year old into a prophesied battle where he will die, and making him dissociate so hard for months he blankly allows others to make him cause/be complicit in war crimes
HAHA HEY THE SAPIENT, INTELLIGENT MICE DYING BY THE HUNDREDS SUFFOCATING ON POISON GAS WHILE A TODDLER SINGS A NURSERY SONG ABOUT THE MICE DYING.
the six year old boy losing literally everyone hes ever known and cared for over and over again
just so much violent gore and death for middle schoolers, man. i love it.
hey that was objectively a good and well done ending. and i also loved it. but "hey gregor my husband was in the war. he had ptsd that will never go away just like you" hey hes twelve :( someone help him
prim's death in the hunger games has nothing on the shit collins pulled in the underland chronicles this is like a tiny chunk please read them
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bisexual-kelsier · 13 days
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What is your most controversial TUC opinion?
I’ll go first: Ripred is NOT a father figure (except maybe to Lizzie) and treating him as one reduces his character down to little more than a cardboard cutout.
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The bRATcket
ROUND THREE
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We’re starting this round off with our celebrity chef star, Remy VS. our warrior who has proven to overcome the odds, Ripred!
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1very1fancy1doilies1 · 2 months
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ripred the rat for my sister's birthday :)
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i-think-in-metaphors · 8 months
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Gregor bought them all boba.
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prophecyofgray · 2 months
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"does gregor's family move to virginia?" this "does gregor ever go back to the underland?" that. what about "does gregor spend his adult life sneaking into nyc libraries at night hoping that he'll run into ripred chomping on some books?"
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averagecygnet-blog · 4 months
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bartholomew of sandwich, carving the genocide prophecy into the kids' room instead of the prophecy room: in 400 years this is gonna fuck em up soooo bad lmao
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aldoodles · 1 month
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I hope they got to play ball again sometime
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thelightfluxtastic · 4 months
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The Crawler's Language
So I'm not a linguist by academic specialty but I am bilingual and fascinated by languages and every time I reread the Underland Chronicles I think about language and especially the Crawler's style of repetitive speech.
All of the species in the Underland have different speech patterns. The bats speak rarely, quietly, and in short sentences because it is physically difficult for them. The spinners speak through vibrations. The rats as a species are associated with humor, they're most likely to use sarcasm and constantly make jokes. But when all of these species do speak, they use the grammar and syntax common to human Underland English.
The exception is the crawlers, who have a distinct verbal quirk, saying things like: "Smells what, so good, smells what?" In this essay I am making basically two arguments:
The crawlers word order is completely normal for Underland English.
Often, when discussing the crawlers, the book narration will make a point of Gregor or others having to mentally re-order sentences to understand the bugs. But if you take out the repetition, Crawler sentences become things like:
"Smells what so good?" "Be she the princess?" "Hates us, the Overlander?" "Unless this be not the Cradle"
And this order that goes Verb-Object or Verb-Pronoun is not unusual for standard Underland English. Human and other characters throughout the books say things like: "Stop you. Stay you. Slow your hearts." (Ripred, Book 1) "Meet you Mareth and Perdita" (Dulcet, Book 1) "Gather us here for we must discuss" (Vikus, Book 1)
It's even baked in to the standard Underlander farewell, "Fly you high".
So the crawlers are speaking correct sentences in Underland English, just repeating the first phrase at the end. Which brings me to my second argument.
The repetition serves a grammatical function
In paying attention to the crawler's speech, I found a pattern. The repetition is not present in every sentence. Crawlers often make simple declarative statements without repetition:
"You look much like but smell not like" "Temp will share her food with me" "Rats give many fish"
The repetition specifically happens with questions:
"Ride you, ride you? Run you, run you?" "Give you five baskets, give you?" "You so say, you?"
Even Vikus takes on this particular grammatical feature. When speaking to the Crawlers, he says "We will give four baskets, and one for thanks" but later asks "Take us to your king, take us?" when asking a question.
There are exceptions to this, but to me they seem to be in cases of emphasis or explicit confirmation:
"Only the Princess, Temp serves, only the Princess" "Hate warmbloods, cutters do, hate warmbloods"
I have no idea if this was Suzanne Collins intention, but for me personally, it reminds me of how questions are structured in American Sign Language. In ASL, a question is indicated by raising or lowering the eyebrows. Signs for question words like who/what/where/why exist, but aren't always necessary. One of the structures common with ASL is to put or repeat the question word at the end, so you can sign a longer phrase or sentence normally, and only have to worry about the question facial expression for the last word. Bill Vicars at Lifeprint/ASL University has a more in-depth explanation, comparing it to English questions structured as "You go to [X university], don't you?" or "You like engineering, do you?" But basically, in ASL, a perfectly grammatically correct way to ask if someone is Deaf is to sign: YOU DEAF YOU?
It is also worth exploring why, in my opinion, the crawlers are the only species who have this visible difference to the audience, even though all species are speaking English as a second language. And at a meta-level, it contributes to the basic assumption that the crawlers are dumber than the other species. Gregor has the most to adjust to, but even long after he's accepted that the Underlanders aren't primitive, and bats/rats are intelligent, he still has a kind but condescending outlook on the crawlers. And even other insect species (like the fireflies) look down on them. Having the crawlers speak differently from anyone else emphasizes their alienation from all other species in the Underland. And it reminds me of how some accents or dialects, like AAVE, are associated with stupidity or assumed to be "incorrect" English when they have perfectly valid and functional structures and meaning.
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