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awkward-sultana · 2 months
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Magnificent Century + Costumes in 1.16: Good and Bad News
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faintingheroine · 4 months
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My philosophy on the servant characters in Magnificent Century is that whatever they do, I am on their side. Are they loyal? Great! Are they not loyal? Great! Are they competent? Great! Are they not competent? Great!
Whatever you are doing to survive kings and queens!
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chaos-of-the-abyss · 8 months
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everyone and their mother trying to avenge ibrahim by taking down hürrem and meanwhile this is one of the few incidents where she had almost no direct influence lmao
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elizabeth-halime · 2 months
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zeldaxxi · 8 months
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what irks me the most about the whole Hatice/Ibrahim/Nigar deal is how the writers forced the "Ibrahim can't handle a powerful woman so he cheats with a more submissive one"
like don't get me wrong it could be a pretty compelling narrative. so what's the problem? THIS NARRATIVE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WITH THE CHARACTERS YOU HAVE.
why tf does Ibrahim even feel like a slave in their marriage? Hatice's outburst was literally a one time thing. it doesn't define their dynamic at all. their relationship is very much healthy by soap opera standards. if he were married to Sah instead it would make more sense. or maybe, if you really wanted to portray Ibrahim as being so insecure that one emotional outburst from his wife ruined a loving relationship, THEN SHOW THAT. show Ibrahim immediately distancing himself from Hatice, to which she responds with even more outbursts, turning it into a vicious cycle. show their relationship slowly deteriorating and then build up to the affair. do not, under any circumstances, show a loving relationship that Ibrahim randomly decides to ruin by calling back to one emotional outburst.
ok, so we established that Ibrahim feels threatened by his wife. he wants to have an affair with a more submissive woman. great! how tf does that equal Nigar? that woman is not at all submissive, it's only an act she plays to get ahead and survive. she's no Gulsah that actually gets unhealthly attached to her master. she's also no Hurrem, whose entire life depends on submitting to a man.
"but she's in love with Ibrahim! that's why she's submissive!" that's boring and sexist. Nigar genuinely loved both Hurrem and Daye and she still held her own. she was scared of Mahidevran and Valide and still held her own. she helds her own even when feelings are involved. she has all the reasons to be both pragmatic and in love with Ibrahim. so just like with Hatice, you either replace her with a character that would actually act like this, or tweak it so it's more in character. she's pragmatic and an opportunist! like maybe she could start her affair with Ibrahim because she's scared of what might happen to her if she says no, and then she decides to make the best of it! to willingly play the part of a submissive woman to make that man her sugar daddy! i'm talking "babe i think we could get caught here why not buy me a house? 🥰🥰"
and for the love of god, if that's really the narrative you're going for, why walk it all back? why not have Hatice divorce him? thus weakening him politically? thus leading to his execution? THUS HAVING THIS WHOLE DAMN THING ACTUALLY LEAD TO SOMETHING??? REINFORCE THE "IBRAHIM IS HIS OWN WORST ENEMY" THEME YOU WERE GOING FOR???
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corporalicent · 2 months
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serraseastar · 5 months
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Nigar, What kind of women you are? I'm addicted to you.
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magnificentlyreused · 12 days
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These silver earrings with a pink stone was first worn by Mahidevran Sultan in the twenty-third episode of the second season of Magnificent Century. Two episodes later, they appeared again on Aybige Hatun. The earrings can then be seen on Gülfem Hatun in the thirty-sixth episode of the same season. They were also worn by Mihrimah Sultan in the fourth episode of the third season as well as by an older Mihrimah in promotional material of the same season.
The earrings become part of the plot in the thirty-seventh episode when they are used to identify Nigar Hatun as the kidnapper. However, Nigar does not wear them in the thirty-sixth episode when the viewer saw her commit the crime.
The earrings appear three times in the fourth season, first on Nurbanu Sultan in the eighth episode, then on Defne Sultan in the twenty-eighth episode and lastly on Hümaşah Sultan in the final episode.
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dyingroses · 1 year
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Magnificent Century + text posts and stuff
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As of Episode 10, btw.
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awkward-sultana · 6 months
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Magnificent Century + Costumes in 1.12: Faint Hope
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faintingheroine · 1 month
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I have been searching for a character like Nigar and I found it in freaking Japanese Nelly Dean, Fumiko Tsuchiya.
Spoilers for A True Novel by Minae Mizumura
If you know any other story about a mostly disciplined and smart and ordinary and seemingly trustworthy but secretly unscrupulous, unreliable and wildly sexual housemaid interfering with a much more conventional love story between a privileged slightly entitled naive woman with mental health issues and a charismatic self-made man, please recommend it to me. Fumiko is actually much worse than Nigar for obvious reasons, but that’s a topic for another day.
Anyway, A True Novel is great. I still have 27 pages left but I loved it.
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garnetbutterflysblog · 7 months
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Interesting how Sumbul has more empathy for Sadika than Nigar does. I guess it shows just how the harem is steeped in internalized misogyny. I mean, it is inevitable considering the system of the harem itself. All the girls end up enslaved in terribly traumatic ways, before they step foot into the harem. Then they’re basically grouped on attractiveness with the classically beautiful girls becoming concubines and the others entering into harem management/service. If you become a concubine, your entire worth is tied into your ability to bear children for a man you can’t consent to having sex with.
On the other hand, it does show that ,despite his opportunistic and self-serving ways, Sumbul can be empathetic. That’s not even including the fact he is in charge of these girls. I don’t know many who couldn’t begin to care for someone they had to take care of, especially since Sumbul likely shares similar trauma to the girls he takes care of.
Yes, he does make himself out to be a bigger hero than he was but I truly believe his anger towards Boncuk Agha is genuine and his concern for Sadika is as well. I mean, he wants Boncuk to be punished for this.
I never thought I’d be happy with anything Ibrahim does but executing a rapist and shielding Sadika from being victim-blamed was a real good thing, considering how misogynistic the time period is.
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elizabeth-halime · 2 months
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chaos-of-the-abyss · 2 months
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while i cannot lie and say that i have ever not wanted to punch ibrahim in the face, i think maybe the only time i did feel something about his romantic relationships was when he was talking with his brother about just running away from it all and mentioned "you, me, the woman i love..." with that soft little expression. his actor delivered it wonderfully, i forgot how much i wanted to see his downfall for a second there
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skenosbisworld · 11 months
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My discussion with @faintingheroine in the comment section of her poll on the opinions surrounding the subplot of the affair between Ibrahim Pasha and Nigar Kalfa in Magnificent Century have left me with some interesting ideas about how the plot and characters could have been better handled.
I'm pretty new to Tumblr, and I've never made a post before, but I didn't want to bog down her post with an essay worth of comments. So I'm making this post so I can add my entire two cents on this debate.
First off, I have some pretty big problems with this plot for three main reasons.
1. I cannot stand the use of affairs as a cheat code to adding drama. The trope is so overused, and rarely well done, especially in this show. I think I wouldn't mind the use of an affair for Ibrahim, especially because I do think it makes sense for his character, if the trope wasn't already overdone with Suleyman. Historical fiction shows often use this trope because of the modern view that historical men were never faithful, which is absolutely not true. There are many historical examples of men being loving and faithful husbands even in arranged marriages. One of these examples actually being Suleyman and Hurrem.
There are many reasons why a once happy marriage might deteriorate, and I just wish screenwriters would be more creative.
2. This plot, despite it being made into a big deal in season 2, ended up having little to no consequences in season 3 except for Nigar Kalfa, which will be discussed in the last point. Hatice ends up forgiving Ibrahim and Suleyman's decision to kill Ibrahim was not shown to be at all affected by his betrayal of his sister. The only lasting consequence was Hatice's developed hatred of Hurrem, which was both completely irrational and unnecessary as her hatred already could have been explained by her discovering Hurrem's role in Ibrahim's later execution.
3. The plot completely assassinated Nigar's character. I absolutely adored Nigar's character in season 1. She was the voice of reason among a sea of hysteria. She was smart and kind, but not completely loyal. She was ambitious, but she was still caring and dutiful. The affair with Ibrahim left her as a shell of her previous character that just made her look pathetic. Her friendship with Hurrem was already an interesting dynamic, and her place as an influential member of the harem already gave her a good starting point for her own personal arc.
However, I think this subplot could have had potential to be both interesting and rational.
My main key to improving the plot would be to remove Nigar Kalfa entirely out of it.
I think that Nigar's main arc should have been her rise as the new Daye Hatun of the harem.
This was already perfectly set up in season 1 with her already established position as an important member of the harem as well as her friendship with the future haseki sultan. Now I do think that alot could have still been done with Nigar even in this framework. I have two suggestions for what should have been done with her character.
1. I would have Nigar remain friends with Hurrem, but I would have made it a more complex dynamic. Leo's death was a perfect turning point for the two as it made Hurrem lose her unconditional trust in Nigar. This should storyline should have continued through s2 with Hurrem recognizing that even though Nigar is not completely loyal that the kalfa is still an intelligent and valuable ally to have. This would have them maintain an unstable alliance throughout s2 & s4 with them developing a more pure friendship in s4 with Hurrem recognizing that Nigar is the only one who could relate & remember all of her struggles. This would have made for some wonderful bittersweet moments especially around the time of Hurrem's or Nigar's death.
2. Something that could have been done to give Nigar a more personal subplot could have been a romance plot, but one done very differently from all the others. Nigar could have fallen for a man, someone like Nasuh Effendi, and they had a secret relationship for a while until later discovered. When discovered, Hurrem or the Valide Sultan could have offered Nigar a chance of marriage. A chance which Nigar declines in favor of keeping her position in the harem. This would have created a sharp contrast between Nigar and the other female characters as well as perfectly highlight Nigar's ambitions. Most of the women in the show are portrayed as a complete romantics who would do anything for the men they loved, but I don't think this common portrayal should carry over to Nigar. In s1, Nigar is shown as very level headed and rational. She criticizes Hurrem's extreme devotions to Suleiman, and does so without much sympathy unlike Hatice Sultan. This characterization should have remained consistent with Nigar not believing that love should not come at the cost of her own success.
Back to my proposed improvements on Ibrahim's affair subplot, I think this could have been done in two ways.
1. The affair could have been done with Gulnihal, and be a plot by Hurrem to destroy Ibrahim. This would have improved the subplot because it would have given a previously underused character a much more important role, and it would have justified Hatice's anger and hatred of Hurrem. This plot could have happened with Hurrem initially sending Gulnihal as a maid to Hatice in order to spy on Ibrahim. After realizing Ibrahim's interest in her, Hurrem would have ordered her friend to begin and continue an affair with the Pasha. This would have still left Ibrahim completely responsible for the affair, but it may also cast Hurrem into too much of a villain role. It's not a perfect rewrite, but I do think it would be an improvement.
My other suggestion is a much more radical rewrite.
2. The other option could have been that Ibrahim has an affair with some new character, which would not be Nigar or Gulnihal. The affair would have been done without any involvement from Hurrem. The point of conflict would be that Mahidevran finds out about the affair, and she would have helped cover it up out of fear that Hatice would divorce Ibrahim, who would lose his position, and Mahidevran would be left without her main ally. When Hatice inevitably finds out about it, her anger would instead be completely directed at Mahidevran and it would be their friendship that would deteriorate. This could also lead to a stronger friendship between Hurrem and Hatice. Hatice could have divorced Ibrahim, and she could have also been the one who suggested the removal of Mahidevran as head of the harem. This likely would have made Ibrahim's death come much swifter after he returns from the campaign, but I do think this would make for a very interesting shift in dynamics.
Anyway, those are all my thoughts. I may make another post about how I would have changed the relationship between Hurrem with Suleyman and Hurrem with the Valide Sultan. To me, Magnificent Century serves as the perfect playground for rewriting ideas, as both the show and the real history propose so many interesting plotlines, but I feel like the show rarely ever fufilly delivers on it.
If anyone has any disagreements or other opinions on this, I would love to hear. Thx:)
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