#also I love Gideon a lot

[aryaadrottning]

Reviving this account to say I’m back in my criminal minds era bc I’m rewatching from the beginning

#criminal minds #first off I wanna say that I don’t believe a single word that the actress who plays Elle says #the hallmark of acting for me is whether I believe them and it really annoys me that I don’t #I don’t see any sincerity in how she says what she says or the things in her face #which is so tough to watch sometimes bc she’s surrounded by such strong and subtle actors that it stands out how much she’s not doing it #okay but enough about her #I love reid hes such a lil kid #I love thé moments where hotch is so serious and then he cracks the most deadpan joke #I totally forgot he did that and I’m obsessed #Garcia throws me off so much but I think it’s bc I just realized I grew up to be her lol and all this time I thought I was a Morgan #meanwhile Morgan is kinda mean?? is that just me?? #also I love Gideon a lot #oh man the ep w Lila was so good #that pool make out?? are you kidding me?? #and my fav Ep of the rewatch so far is ride the lightning with the guy who played Hoyt in rizzoli and isles #he’s such a good actor oh my god #the emotional arc of that Ep is chefs kiss #I actually cried like pretty hard lol #I’m so excited for the things I remember are coming but also nervous about the things I don’t remember #I’m loving watching this series like a decade older and in a completely different career path and with a healthier mindset #I feel like I’m remembering how sad I was during my first watch but also getting to experience it joyfully as an adult #it’s a good feeling to be just a kid who loves a show again

[catrasfreckles]

*wakes up*

I wonder how Pyrrha feels about her dead lover's dead daughter having the same name as her dead best friend

*goes back to sleep*

#i need Pyrrha to tenderly cradle Gideon in her arms like a wittle baby. #the locked tomb #pyrrha dve #gideon nav #tlt #kiriona gaia #pyrrha rly is just haunted by all the people shes loved. everywhere she looks theres another reminder #but i think she could give gideon a lot of perspective re: cavaliers #in ntn right before cam and pal do the thing and she talks about how lyctorhood is not love. good shit #anyway. my point is i love pyrrha and she should scoop up gideon like a little bug. and give her a blanket and some hot cocoa maybe. #and also that its kinda fucked up to be in your dead best friends body forever and be reminded of him constantly #grief never ends

[twentysidednerd]

i have finally finished gideon the ninth

i am. in shambles.

i am just… i am so sad and so very happy i read this and so very excited to read the sequel

i will admit, i did not block any tags on here so i already knew how some of the book would go and i’m still so very sad

now onto harrow the ninth lmaooo

#gideon the ninth #gideon nav #harrowhark nonagesimus #harrow the ninth #tamsyn muir #the locked tomb #tlt #tlt series #call me weird #but i kinda like books that answer one question #and then leave you with seven more #like genuinely #i am still so confused about a lot #but also i fucking love that #let me try to fill in the blanks #i’ll eat that shit up

[theaologies]

You know I gotta have my bio-adaptive reuptake inhibitors in the morning- and make sure not to trigger the memories of the person you lobotomized yourself to forget until after you’ve taken that first sip!

#Gideon the ninth #the locked tomb #harrow the ninth #this was a LOT of fun to make but I had to to SO much math #but all of this was my first try too! #gideon nav #nona the ninth #coffee shop au #harrowhark nonagesimus #griddlehark #tlt #I feel like the mug has Waffle House energy which I love #bari star #catch that star after the bari heehee #also the Gideon skull specifically hidden beneath the cup #again the math to get that in one #it is completely hidden all the way around while sitting on the saucer

[ridrawsart]

Thinking about Kiriona Gaia and Harrow the First. Thinking about an AU where they met. Thinking about how tragic of a dynamic that would've been. Thinking of what it'd be like to be in love with a girl that can't even remember you and respects you because you're prince to the empire but hates being around you because every time she is she gets massive headaches and starts to bleed from her ears.

Just girly things.

#gideon the ninth #harrow the ninth #nona the ninth #kiriona gaia #kiriona the first #harrowhark nonagesimus #harrowhawk #gideon nav #griddlehark #the locked tomb #the locked tomb book #honestly I just wanted to draw them both in their empire finery #together #I also have a lot of feelings about gideon in her villain era so yeah #I love how all of us artists draw Kiriona with her shirt open lmao #love that for us #the anatomy is wonky but god I'm proud of those hands #kiriona would be such a bitch to harrow the first #but she'd also cry in her room like a lot #god ianthe would be especially insufferable #i'm weirdly proud of the rainbow capes #tlt #ridrawsart

[mayasaura]

ntn spoilers ahead

Question!

I appreciate that you champion Harrow's schizophrenia, and I had a thought that I'd like to run by you. It's intended with full respect for anyone with the disorder, and is also related to the neuro-bio-psych elements.

When Nona, Cam, and Crown are visiting the Captain, Nona hears Varun speak through the Captain. Afterward, she references the incident and realizes that neither Cam nor Crown had heard this happen. I was confused *how* Nona-lecto had that sort of experience, but...

If Nona-lecto is in Harrow's body, is it possible that she's experiencing schizophrenia symptoms? I'm not wanting to imply that it's a full hallucination, though perhaps since Harrow's 'meat' is schizophrenic meat, there are effects. Would mental health/illness be tied to the soul? Personality certainly seems to be, and some forms of memory.

Just rolling this around in my head a bit, and have no thoughts more advanced than this. Thank you for all your theorizing and writings about the books 💀 - heedee

I've been wondering how or if Harrow's schizophrenia effected Nona since the cover first dropped, and literally speaking, the way you're wondering about? I'm still not really sure. Brain stuff is complicated, even before souls are part of the equation, and everything about Nona is already so goddamn weird. I do think Nona is thematically schizophrenic, the same way she's thematically intellectually disabled.

Like the scene you're talking about here:

I think you're absolutely onto something, seeing this as related to psychosis. Reading this scene with that framing in mind, Nona's experience is so clearly about hallucinations. She was just trying to change the subject, and fuck. Turns out no one else heard that! Camilla and Crown's reactions, too.

But to your point about neurobiology, and the relationship between soul and body, it doesn't really tell us much. Nona wasn't hallucinating, because it turned out Judith wasn't just screaming. Varun was speaking to Nona through Judith in the language of a murdered planet, a language that sounds like screaming to human ears. Like Nona's uncanny knack for human languages, that's a product of her soul, not her brain.

We get proof of that later when Nona is pretending to be Harrow, and faking being effected by the blue light. She imitates the way Judith screamed, makes her mouth make the same shapes Judith's did, and her words come out in italics; just like Judith's words that Camilla and Crown heard as screams. She calls for help, in the screaming language she'd heard from Judith, with Judith in the room to hear her, and Varun answers by attacking the planet.

To your question about whether schizophrenia would be connected to the soul or to the body in setting, I don't think there's a dichotomy there. Body and soul aren't separate things, even when they're separated.

Lyctorhood, for example. You'd think muscle memory would be a clear cut case of living in the body. It's muscles. But when Ianthe chowed down on Naberius' soul, she got his reflexes with it. His swordsmanship, his stance, his training. The soul brought the body with it. And when Harrow literally cut Gideon out of her brain, it removed Gideon from her memory even when her soul was elsewhere. She spent half that book in the River, but didn't remember Gideon until her skull construct failed and her brain began to heal. So I would say that, just like memory, it's both. Harrow's schizophrenia is tied to both her soul and body, and there's not really much point in trying to separate the two.

#ntn spoilers #nona the ninth #nona palona #the locked tomb #harrow's schizophrenia #also hi Heedee!! big thank you for the big juicy question to roll around in my head #and thank you for liking my meta!! 💕 I love making it and it really means a lot to me that you like reading it #sorry it took over a fucking month to get this one back to you #it kept picking up new questions and implications #like a snowball rolling around a yard #like #so how does the non-dichotomy of soul and body work re: Pyrrha? #I think its partially the eightfold word and partially maybe bc Pyrrha's soul has had ten thousand years to acclimate to being Gideon's bod #Pyrrha isn't surprised to hear that Nona is dying in chapter 24 because (to quote): #'It takes a lot to acclimate a soul to a body it wasn’t born in if that original body’s around for it to miss' #and this is while Pyrrha still thinks it's probably Gideon in there #we know bc she tells Nona later in the same conversation that she thinks the body they're going after might be hers #so that means even the eightfold word isn't sufficient to acclimate a soul to a different body #Gideon and Harrow have done it as completely as Pyrrha and her Gideon ever did #but the eightfold word DOES lay the groundwork #or at least I'm pretty sure it does #because Ianthe in Naberius' body was nothing like Wake in Cytherea's or Palamedes in Naberius #Wake and Pal's movements were awkward and jerky while Ianthe moved with the same grace and fluidity as Kiriona inhabiting her own dead body #speaking of Ianthe and Naberius I am eyeing that line about 'if that original body's around for it to miss' #what happened to the bodies of the other lyctors' cavaliers is a long standing mystery #and Pyrrha seems like she might be implying there that her original body ISN'T still around to miss #can't just be that it's dead; Gideon's is dead too and Pyrrha was talking about Gideon's body when she said the line #so maybe there is something in the theory that the original cavaliers were cremated #I can see the lyctors doing it if they thought it was the only way to prevent complications or later failure of the process #kinda makes me wonder what kinds of complications might arise from Ianthe keeping Babs around to play play with

[gascansposts]

@all my Gideon Coal lovers (hello hi nice to meet ya howyado) how about This Prompt

Gideon loses to gricko when he tries to hit the man with the weird bowtie but misses, and ends up giving an iou to Gricko instead! Yes normal plot we stan yes? Anyways the Sow Pig the strange not frog not human but something worse and the tall moon faced woman all meet him, Sow Pig goes "you don't have your TickEt" yadda yadda yadda and instead of someone important to him Gideons Manacles get taken away from him

Because y'know. It's something of equal value they have to take yeah? And Gideon doesn't consider himself a very materialistic man, only owning a two maybe three shirts two pairs of pants, it was always easier to forget and leave behind things that had emotional value because then it was easier to run or fight without abandon because what did he have to come back to? So when the Sow Pig came he thought he wouldn't have anything, nothing it (not she that thing is some horrible not human at best) until it reached out to him and took his Manacles. Idk just. Y'know hehe

Gideon stumbling and feeling... maybe... unprotected? Useless? Suddenly Very Much not con-fi-dant and boisterous as we all know him to be! Maybe a little empty! Anxious! Idk I might just be going crazy! anyways toodles ✨✨✨

#once upon a witchlight #ouaw #gideon coal #writing prompt #au prompt #i suppose #hhhhhhhh #gideon...... having anxiety without the manacles..... #because like #the manacles are a love hate relationship yeah? #they imprisoned him forced him to sit like a dog and take whatever the Horrible Monsters called hobgoblins threw at him #but they also gave him the stength the capability to run to find his people to find a sort of famoly that he definitely Isnt!! attached to #no way #there isnt any underlying issues there #dont look at me #so while yes the manacles chained him yhey also gave him a second chance #they have a lot of emotional worth to gideon #so now without them he just feels... empty. lost. yhe familiar clank of his chains the weight on his arms the way they would squish his #forearms in a comforting way now that he was used to it #the constant pressure no longer there #idk im just going bonker but like. cmon.... it doent have to be angsty gay people because thwyre seperated it could be angsty gay people #bexause Gideon has had at least one constant in his life since he got captured and that was the manacles doing what manacles do #ignore me just #going insane haha

[harrowing-of-hell]

One day I'm gonna go through HTN and point out all the moments that show that the Body is not just a hallucination and is actually an aspect of Alecto's soul. Because there are so many moments that hint at the Body knowing information that Harrow wouldn't know but Alecto would, and at one point the Body even looks at John with something resembling recognition.

One thing I cannot explain is why the Body has golden eyes now, but didn't before. I speculate that this has something to do with her proximity to John since John has a part of her soul and vice versa.

The only reason I don't think it has anything to do with Gideon at all is because Harrow (from what I can remember) does not hemorrhage, pass out, or bleed from her ears at the sight of the Body with golden eyes, but she does those things with everything else that even alludes to Gideon (like how she reacted to seeing Naberius's trident knife since she watches Gideon fight him in GTN).

I think the biggest thing that supports the Body actually being an aspect of Alecto is that the Body leaves Harrow just before Varun arrives at the Mithraeum, and I assume that she's doing this protect Harrow in some way. But regardless of the exact reason for why the Body leaves, there is quite literally no other logical explanation for why the Body would do this if the Body is not actually an aspect of Alecto.

#the locked tomb #tlt #the locked tomb spoilers #tlt spoilers #the locked tomb meta #tlt meta #harrowhark nonagesimus #alecto #i can't say for sure that every scene with the Body is for sure not just a hallucination #but there's a lot of evidence to suggest that more is going on #it's just crazy to me that a lot of people seem convinced that the Body is just purely a hallucination?? #but that's the interesting thing about HTN #Harrow isn't a reliable narrator #and neither is Gideon experiencing the world through Harrow #because Gideon would just see and hear all of Harrow's hallucinations #reminds me that i also need to revisit the scene with Ianthe and Harrow talking about Wake in Cytherea's body underneath the bed #because I believe Ianthe's behavior in that scene was uncharacteristic enough to suggest that Cytherea's body wasn't actually there #anyways i'm rambling but i have SO many meta post ideas #i love unraveling the mystery in these books!!

[vwritesaus]

who do you think between the adults grieved Christopher the hardes? I think Henry as he was very close to him, and Kit saw him as a father figure. From women I guess his mother, but probably also Charlotte as he was always there, maybe she even names one of the twins Christine

~

i fully agree!! aside from his parents obv, henry and charlotte would definitely be amongst those who grieved for christopher the hardest out of the adults ;; and i would personally throw in gideon and sophie too out. not only were their kids close to each other growing up, but the adults would be too. and i remember reading somewhere that after the boys were expelled from the academy (and then when thomas decided not to go back), it was sophie and henry who taught them privately, so i imagine sophie got even closer with christopher than she already was in that scenario :')

also charlotte calling one of the twins christine is so sweet ohhh... matthew would cry if she did </3

#asks ♡ #anonymous #the last hours #tlh #christopher lightwood #henry branwell #henry fairchild #charlotte branwell #charlotte fairchild #gideon lightwood #sophie lightwood #sophie collins #also someone i didn't mention above but who would also grieve really strongly is will #yes we paint him as an overdramatic goofy and (sometimes) irresponsible guy lol #but he's also emotional #he's sensitive and full of love #and he loves those kids so much #no doubt he loved christopher a lot too ;;;;

[smorgasbort]

Just imagine that somehow, by some horrific fluke of luck, Gideon actually managed to become the third Elden Lord and Marika's new consort.

The Lands Between would become the most invasive magical surveillance state you can picture overnight.

The scarabs, spies of Gideon, now swarm thickly through the air over all of the land, sometimes even blocking out the rays of gold from above, always listening and reporting back to him.

The beetles are not the only spies. Peoples' bodies betray themselves. Through the cruel work of a rune of mending embedded in the Elden Ring, souls returned to the erdtree are reborn with extra mouths upon their brow which whisper the innermost thoughts of the mind aloud. Gideon says that all knowledge must be shared, even secrets. Especially secrets.

Those whose thoughts prove they remain loyal are met with ongoing clemency. Those harbouring contempt are dispatched swiftly.

The servants of Gideon are everywhere. Once powerful warriors, now unthinking puppets, born of a potion taken by Gideon from a foul sorceror. His step-children, loyal to him for his perceived kindnesses, mercy, and wisdom, ironically ignorant of the true nature of the All-Knowing.

Worst of all are his demi-god children, the house of Ofnir. They are the result of his union with the husk of Marika and are thus crumbling and hollow as she is, vessels to be filled with Gideon's will. Hunched creatures, wizened before their time, their dry flesh is thick with eyes and ears. They are three, named Gibor, Gilad and Gillam. Physically the weakest and frailest of all the demi-gods, they strike as one with all manner of incantation and spell from behind the shieldwalls of the All-Knowing's armies.

As Elden Lord, Gideon strives for omniscience. Through it, he will achieve control. Nothing is outside of his notice, nothing is outside of his reach. Once all who oppose him are dealt with, the only ones who remain will be spies, puppets and the loyal, adoring children of the House of Ofnir. Once all are within his control, he can hold the world in static form and end the rise of all new knowledge, ensuring that all that there is to be known is known by him, his perfect form of order.

"The fallen leaves tell a story Of how a Tarnished became Elden Lord. In our home, across the fog, the Lands Between. Our seed will look back upon us, and recall. The Age of the All-Knowing."

#Elden Ring #Gideon Ofnir #Elden Lord Gideon AU #The Age of the All-Knowing #I really love him aesthetically #and think there's lots of room for eye/ear/mouth-growth body horror if he's using the power of the Elden Ring to tweak the Lands Between #I think it would be fun and disgusting #I also like the idea that he has demi-god children who even Godrick would be able to hold in disdain #Gibor Ofnir #Gilad Ofnir #Gillam Ofnir #And they likely all embody such potent Grand Vizier energy #As for how he beat Godfrey and Radagon #Maybe Radagon they just tripped and impaled themselves on their own weapons by accident

[belovedblabber]

I want to make a post about how smart Gideon is but am bad at making posts rn. But I’ll get to it because I feel like defending my darling girl. She’s smart! She’s so smart she’s just thrown into a situation in GtN where she is not given the tools she needs to understand everything going on around her!

Gideon so often gets done so dirty by a lot of slices of the fandom in terms of painting her as like, dumb muscle etc. when there is SO much more to her character. And I can’t help but think that a lot of the time there’s  an element of people being weird about butch women in terms of that treatment. And even more so and intersecting with that, I feel like racism, conscious or otherwise, undeniably plays a role in this treatment of her in many instances. It’s not my place to speak further on that (and I’m sure people who are much more qualified to talk about this have been talking about it and probably getting largely ignored a lot of the time), but it’s a thought that’s popped up for me and has been knocking around my head a lot lately 

#there is one particular scene where she reads ‘dulcinea’s’ expression is pretending to be one thing but actually being a look of #‘animal cunning’ or something to that effect #and I love it #I WILL talk about this at some point #and like yes joking about her being distracted by hot ladies in canaan house is all well and good #but I think a lot of times things turn into people calling her dumb #which really reduces her character #and does such a disservice to her #and it feels like in so many cases yeah that is very much tied in with perceptions of butches #and women of color #and butches of color #etc. #the locked tomb #gideon nav #gideon nav/kiriona my beloved you're currently my fave female character in the series today #it changes at any given time fghjk #but i always love her #also i realized 'qualified to talk about it' is weird wording but brain is tired and i am blanking on a better word to represent what i mean

[eg515]

oh but I'm still not over Zero saying "I can't even imagine you being an afterthought. I think about you first all the time."

#i mean. come ON #dude is so in love i love it #like. admitting it in an empty parking lot at night is one thing #but in a crowded bar full of everyone they know?? #also the way he said it!! come onnnnn #hit the floor #zude #ep 3x03 #zero gideon #jude kinkade

[villainsidestep]

“think abt smth besides v3!au” no

#gideon shut the hell up challenge #would love to think abt canon fawn but unfortunately there’s nothing to think abt there so. #we still can’t figure out how to write a big thing abt the fawnchen stuff but. since we’ve been thinking in general. #fawnchen sitting together at the memorial/funeral… the ortegas try to coax fawn into sitting in a seat between them but fawn is still too #emotional in v negative ways (angry at them; blames them; hates them) to consider it so they sit on the end of a row and next to chen #there is a lot of dialogue in mind abt him asking if they’ve talked to the ortegas yet and asking if they blame him [implied: the same way #that they’re blaming the twins/hb/themself] and fawn says that he wasn’t in the room [so he couldn’t have stopped anything] and he asks #again if they blame him [for not being there to help in the first place] #+ way later (read: autopsy photo time) fawn noting that chen seems to be treating them differently? he’s notably trying Not to but he’s #being weird enough that it draws attention to itself. v soon after he is ofc injured and argent joins the rangers and fawn is like #oh I get it…. he was worried abt how I’d get along w someone New joining. kinda fucked up he doesn’t trust me but it’s fine #would love to say they’d still get along but honestly without the villainy from fawn they’d probs be like neutral-positive @ each other #+ obvs even later than that is when herald joins the team and eww can you imagine what a complicated nightmare that is for fawn #on one hand. new hero!! his brain is super open and he’s nice and wants to get along w you!! on the other hand. he’s a Fan of yours and #probs only hesitates to bring up ur dead brothers (bc they were Also his icons) bc he has been trained by both ortegas to NOT!!! do that #I think they’d honestly still get along tho :) maybe if he catches them in a good enough mood he can get some brothers lore from them

[corvidfeathers]

thinking about m— and a— and john like. they were his colleagues in trying to save the world they were his best friends they were shot in front of him and he took them and made mercymourn and augustine out of them to keep them with him forever and ever and ever that’s so fucked up it makes my chest hurt

#I was rereading the beginning of nona and the whiplash of the bits of modernish work life the three of them had is so much #anyway. a lot of love there. Also a lot of violence. #the locked tomb #the locked tomb spoilers #Nona the ninth #Nona the ninth spoilers #as august said to me when we were talking abt it: I wonder if that is why gideon and Augustine and mercy lasted the longest as lyctors #because they were his friends #once

[camplease]

harrow isn’t butch or femme she’s just goth. we exist 🙄

#the locked tomb #butch and femme goths are also valid and so powerful it just needed to be said #where’s the love. where’s the recognition for the goth as presentation bitches hell o #harrow the ninth #harrowhark nonagesimus #gideon the ninth #nona the ninth #tlt #unlike some of my other opinions which i will defend upon my honor #it really could go any way for harrow #i think we need more data to say Definitively she’s any particular presentation #after all the ways one can be femme or butch are not negated by anything she’s done so far #i see lots of people saying she’s definitely not femme but #femmes can have short hair and not know how to or care to do socially acceptable make up! #although she’s also not Necessarily femme

[sofipitch]

Was no one going to tell me that Rick Riordan has given books I love 5 star reviews on Goodreads or was I supposed to find that out myself?

#he has reviews for gideon the ninth #two of my favorite Silvia moreno garcia books #octavia e butler and the goldfinch??? #man has good taste i will forgive him liking the poppy war he does have a lot of ya in there and he is a ya author #i've been seeing reviews for his newest book and it's so weird bc it's such a part of my past that it does feel weird to see in the present #so it's even weirder to see him overlap with other stuff i love now even though his books introduced me to reading #and likely had a very strong influence on what i like #he also read hillbilly elegy but didn't give it a review (that i could immediately find) lmao