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signedjehanne · 11 months

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dear white bandom tumblr, what the hell do you want us to say?

i’m tired. i’m really, really tired.

look, what do you want us to say at this point? this was supposed to be a safe space, for the freaks and the outcasts, but we’ve long established that it is very much not safe. it’s crystal fucking clear.

and honestly, pretty much every white user on here is actively contributing to the hostility here. whether you like it or not, it’s not good to only reblog empty reassurances of anti-racism that do more service to yourself than to others. it’s not good to see poc on the dash trying to educate the white majority and doing everything possible to educate you, and either A) ignore it, B) like it, but don’t reblog it, because god forbid you sit with your discomfort for more than five seconds, or C) send racist anon hate to the original poster, or try to deflect their points. it’s not good to see something racist and let it slide. let me get this straight: none of these fans of color owe you anything. fans of color don’t owe you the time of day, fans of color don’t owe you education, and fans of color don’t owe you the dignity of a levelheaded reply in response to your racist comments.

often times, we try to educate because we want this space to change. i mean, i didn’t have to write a five paragraph essay dissecting anti asian racism in mcr’s content. i did it because i was angry, and tired, and frustrated, and wanted the space to change. the same reason that every other ignored dissection and analysis that spent blood, sweat, tears, and emotional labor to make was created. a lot of the time you guys just don’t understand how much effort things like that take. and to be clear, this is not just the usual “oh my post didn’t go viral and i’m not a celebrity i’m so sad,” this is “i poured all of myself into trying to educate people that turned out to never care. i have been blatantly shown that the people around me aren’t interested in changing, no matter how much they claim to be.”

and like, do you want me and countless other users to go in depth again? do you want us to jump from racist incident to racist incident? to hold your hand through explaining why making art of ray being arrested is bad, why gerard’s fetishization of asian people is bad, why making rising sun art and designs is bad, why reducing all of pete wentz’s work to being about mikey way is bad, why shaming people with non-european features for “not looking emo enough” is bad, why insulting and degrading pete and ray for their natural features is bad, why cropping ray out of tour videos is bad, why calling people slurs in their askboxes is bad? (and so much more that i didn’t add.) do you want us to go over the history of racism in alternative spaces as a whole? do you expect us to do all of those things for you on a whim, to make it palatable to you, as if we weren’t real people with real feelings behind the screen and as if we had infinite time and emotional energy? really? when there are many resources already out there, both online and offline?

what all this tells me is you don’t see us as human. simple as that. you expect us to be able to take the abuse, to be able to silently let your racism pass, and if we ever speak up, you ignore the work we give to you and demand inhuman feats of patience and generosity, answering your every question and responding to your every debate and coddling you as you refuse to sit with the reality of the space you’ve helped to create. and that’s only if you claim to be on our side.

it’s insane hearing you try to placate yourselves. trying to mindlessly agree without looking inward. i know this sounds harsh, but i know that most of you need to hear it. i just want this space to actually change, like i was begging for back in january and february. of course, i was foolish to believe that it ever would. and i’m foolish now, writing this as if people are ever going to pay attention. even if it does break a few hundred notes, it’s not like the message is going to stick around. sure, you’re “doing the work”, “listening and learning”, but how am i supposed to know that when your responses never change, and this scene stays the same as it ever was?

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newl0ndonfire · 7 years

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in regards to the mcr jacket post, not everyone has the materials or money to make their own jacket. I mean people do make them I've seen it but that's not something a lot of people can do. Calling someone an "uncreative liar that bitches" is pretty rotten.

considering how people on tumblr often call others far worse for far less, thank you for calling me rotten.

to make your own killjoy jacket you can do one of the following examples:

-get a favorite jacket (any material, it literally doesn’t matter what it’s made of) and wear it till it’s hella comfortable but not super worn out (ex: wear 90% of school days and weekends but not while doing extreme sports). tip: washing fabric often makes it softer.

-rip up old graphic tshirts (not old as in 1 year old but like “oh wow i’ve had this for 8 years and it hasn’t fit in at least 5″) and sew/safety pin/paper clip them together. optional: also draw on it with sharpies.

-learn how to sew to later attach stuff on a jacket/tshirt/bag/whatever

-get some paint (non-washable), sharpies (or other permanent markers), and/or vinegar+koolaid (literally any color/flavor) and dye/draw on/paint on a jacket/tshirt/bag/etc (best if you research to see what works best with whatever fabric[s] you're using, research can be done in a library).

making a battlejacket/remaking your clothes (fuck upcycling)/etc. sounds a lot harder than it is. i’m currently in the middle of two (2) jackets and constantly running into “what if i don’t like this in a year” “what if i’m not doing this right” “what if x band is problematic in y way” and major depressive episodes but it’s not as hard as it sounds. there are instructions online if you want to replicate one of the Four’s jackets (either from cosplayers who do this kind of stuff all the time and probably some that a MCR fan made to recreate them at a lower price) and have the resources/time to do so.

yes calling people uncreative liars who just bitch is rude and i apologize.

however, i find that a lot of people (especially those who are into alternative music and/or MCR)

tend to praise someone doing something because of who the person is while loudly complaining when someone who they don’t like or isn’t famous and/or a celebrity does the same thing/a similar thing/as much as they can to the same thing because of who that person is. (ex. an art reposter [as in, they post someone else’s art to their blog or social without credit and/or permission] posts someone’s art/gifset/etc and gets 5k+ notes which are 90% praise while the original poster gets ~500 notes and hate bc they aren’t as popular and people are convinced they copied it from the reposter)

OR they go on and on and on about how cool x thing is (for example, the Four’s jackets in danger days) and how they wish they could have a similar/the same thing while not doing anything to acquire or attempt to replicate the thing. that is their own fault because they’re limiting themselves while not doing anything to get said thing/change something and complaining when they don’t get the thing/the thing is not done.

OR they would like to be a highly creative/artistic person but are in fact entirely lacking in originality and have the personality of a piece of incredibly dry bread, thus rendering them incapable of doing so because they lack the ability(ies) to do so.

the people who act as i described above also lie about doing the things i mention because they don’t want to accept it and frankly i have no sympathy. they’re not creative. they lie to themselves that they are. they bitch about how they can’t do (thing) when in reality no one else is stopping them.

people still sell the jackets on ebay. people make replicas. what i’m finding for the original price of the official killjoys jackets is $89.99-$99.99 USD. someone can likely get the same (or an incredibly similar) jacket for that price or less. the originals were made by an Oscar-winning costume designer, which makes the jackets more expensive than necessary.

also: i acknowledge you did not mention this in your message. the original post says that “there are so many killjoys such as [OP] who dont [sic] have the jackets because they joined the fandom after the split” that’s their own issue. i don’t believe that danger days was the success it was hoped for (i’ve heard that there was supposed to be a third music video [bulletproof heart? my memory is shit] but since dd wasn’t as well-recieved as tbp it was scrapped but i do not have a link on hand to that) so why would warner bros (a shitty company considering how they take advantage of MCR’s legacy for money [literally the black parade/living with ghosts]) choose to rerelease merch for it when tbp is more well known and better liked to the majority of people?

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drunkkenobi · 7 years

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A livejournal-style bandom post because I’d kind of like it to be 2008 again

mood: drunk

music: The Academy Is... “Sleeping With Giants”

So, I spent quite a few hours this week backreading my livejournal. It all started innocently, I wanted to reread my initial capslock thoughts about Deathly Hallows in honor of HP’s 20th anniversary but then it turned into my rereading the many, many, many posts about dumb band boys, so I got all nostalgic for their music and put on my Just Beautiful playlist for the next few days.

It has prompted Thoughts.

It’s weird because more than half of this music I still listen to somewhat regularly. I have over 80 playlists and many of them include songs or albums by those bands, so it’s not like I never listen to them anymore. But I don’t tend to listen to the full albums or certain songs that much, and I don’t listen to all of these bands at once very much, so the deep concentration of bandom music all at once has been quite the throwback. It’s also been very enlightening as to why only one of these bands has survived.

Caveat: I cannot and will not ever be objective about Empires and their music so they’re not apart of this discussion. They’re still too close to me. (after all this time? always)

Anyway, so! Let’s get this out of the way:

Wow, Panic!’s albums have aged super weirdly. Like, Fever was always a goofy weird album but listening to in 2017 is so strange! I don’t know what to make of it! I mean, don’t get me wrong, I enjoy the hell out of it still, but it just sounds so of the moment from 2006 that I can’t really think of anything else when I listen to it.

Pretty. Odd. is also odd, (ha) and I found myself liking it less than I used to. “Northern Downpour” is still my fav ever and I don’t hate it or anything but I found myself not wanting to listen to those songs as much? Also, my car stereo is much better than my old laptop’s and those goddamn “doots” on “Mad as Rabbits” are fucking loud.

But this is all very weird to me because I still generally really like and even love a bunch of the songs of The Young Veins’ album. But I’ve also gotten into ‘60s pop a ton more since 2010 so maybe that’s why. (I...I do not care for Vices & Virtues almost at all. Positive note: I do really like the newest album! good for you Brendon!)

Also aging strangely, to me, is The Black Parade. “Famous Last Words” is a forever jam and still my favorite MCR song but I approached that album as a whole so differently a decade later (fuck I am so old). I didn’t like “Mama” as much as I used to but I liked “Teenagers” more. I do not love “I Don’t Love You” or “Cancer” at all. Many of the songs run together in my head. But “Sleep”, a song I had few feelings about in 2006 really stuck out to me as one of the best songs on it now.

Three Cheers, however, has aged pretty excellently. So has Danger Days. Bullets, not so much, at least for me. I still cannot believe that Gerard Way is a respected comics writer and editor of a DC imprint, btw.

Cobra Starship’s stuff sounds exactly like I remember it, for better or worse. They just wanted to give us a party and it all would still sound great at a party. (I wish This is Ivy League had given us more twee as fuck sad pop songs though)

Gym Class Heroes has mostly aged well, with a some exceptions. Mostly just “Cupid’s Chokehold” because all I can think of when I listen to it is that this song is about Katy Perry and how fucking weird that is.

I still follow and adore Greta’s music (Springtime Carnivore is her current band and it’s incredible) so I still really enjoy The Hush Sound but her voice also sounds so young that it throws me a little.

Periphery bands are all over the place. I still listen to The Like all the time so I still love their stuff. The Cab sure was a thing. It’s very weird to listen to a Hey Monday song when I remember that Cassadee Pope won a season of The Voice as a country artist. 504 Plan is the best pre-bandom band don’t @ me.

So that leaves me with Fall Out Boy and The Academy Is...

Fall Out Boy’s stuff, with only a scant few exceptions, has aged very well. It also sounds the least “of that time”, at least, in comparison to everything else. Like yeah, “Sugar We’re Goin’ Down” takes me back to 2005 but it’s not so 2005.

They are also the only band left standing as a full group, give or take whatever the status of GCH is.

I feel like this can’t be a coincidence.

It’s also really astounding to realize that they’ve never changed members (well, if you don’t count Evening Out With Your Girlfriend, which you shouldn’t). Like, holy shit, that’s so impressive! They took their big break but came back with one of their best albums ever. Elton John is on that album! That’s fucking bonkers! But it really shows how good of a band they are and how well those 4 dudes work together. Look at everyone they’ve left in their wake. Even a contemporary who is still going strong, Paramore, has had more member turnover than Taking Back Sunday (Which, don’t get me started). It makes me respect those guys in a whole new light.

So, when I say that TAI has the best debut album of all the bandom bands, I really, truly, somewhat non-objectively mean it.

Seriously, Almost Here has aged wonderfully. I can listen to every song on there and not get caught up in mid-2000s nostalgia. I mean, I do, but not in the way Panic’s music does. And while Santi is still my favorite album of theirs, I still don’t like a couple of the songs on it (ugh “Seed”) but I really enjoy every song on Almost Here. Maybe because it’s slightly less depressing than their other stuff (which 40% of is about how they’re almost gonna make it, they’re just on the cusp of making it big, this is gonna be the time! and welp, it didn’t really happen. it’s obviously a big part of Almost Here but it’s much less desperate when Bill Beckett is only like 21 singing about it) I’m also less emotionally compromised it, which is why Santi remains my favorite btw, so I think that’s allowed it to age so well, at least for me.

“But!” you cry. “Take This To Your Grave exists!” oh my child, yes, it does. And while “Saturday” still is great and so is a lot of that album, the screamo, my child, is not. Also not? “Grenade Jumper” because the second-hand embarrassment is strong. Stronger than it even was in 2008.

And the rest: Fever’s weird, Bullets is unpolished as hell, Cobra’s is fun but they would do better, GCH’s has scrappy charm but I don’t listen to it much, The Hush Sound’s is just okay (remember it’s not Like Vines). Almost Here beats them all, at least for me.

It’s so good and fun and it was their best chance and I’m still so depressed they’re gone and I don’t know what any of them are doing, besides Sisky playing bass for Carly Rae Jepsen, and I miss them. I miss them and Empires so much. I miss refreshing FriendsOrEnemies or blogspots all the time for band updates and I miss trying to figure out complicated timelines and I miss staying up late to wait for a new song to drop at midnight and I miss TAI TV and I miss saving every photo I could of Tom Conrad and I miss the complete and utter joyous shock of those two going on an acoustic tour together and how thankful I am to have seen that, even if Sean was half-dead from the flu and I miss Bill’s terrible earnestness and I just... I miss them.

I get it, life happens, things don’t work out, it’s for the best, people need to find their own happiness their own way, not everyone makes it. Not everyone is supposed to make it. Fall Out Boy is a one in a million for a reason. And I love them. I love their music, still. I’m so happy for them and I love that they are left standing.

But sometimes, I’d give anything for TAI or Empires to have their spot.

#bandom bullshit #uh this is for like 7 people plz ignore #I didn't know where else to post it

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