#bajoran religion

[sporkandpringles]

“But if Bajoran religion doesn’t see homosexuality as wrong, how come Kira doesn’t know she’s gay?” Because trauma can inhibit self discovery? Because when you spend the formative years of your life giving your life to something bigger than yourself (the Bajoran resistance) there isn’t a lot of time to stop and think about what you, personally want. Because telling the difference between admiration and attraction can actually be very difficult, even if you are in touch with your sexuality (I still mistake the two all the time).

#kira nerys #Bajoran religion

[queerlybelovdd]

#bajor #bajoran spirituality #bajoran religion #alpha quadrant #cardassian occupation #bajoran resistance #major kira #kai winn #kai opaka #vedek bareil #star trek deep space nine #star trek ds9 #star trek #sci fi #tv shows #game rant #paramount plus

[roguetelepaths]

I love Bajoran religion as an aspect of DS9, I really do, but I weep for its lost potential and the fact that its canon portrayal has big Religion Written By Atheists energy. It’s only ever really explored from an outsider perspective, even when it’s explored from an insider perspective-- it’s all vaguely ritualistic aesthetics and sweeping-yet-shallow statements about faith and occasional restrictive attitudes that seem to not do much besides give people like Kai Winn an excuse to be oppressive and fundamentalist. We see very little of its actual teachings, rites, or symbolism. We’re left to assume that there’s something beneath the surface of what we get, and what we get is very vast but ultimately very small. Fuck’s sake it doesn’t even get a name. 

If and when I do that DS9 rewrite I’m planning to eventually do, one of my main objectives (as I am a religion worldbuilder first and a person second, and I need a break from writing culty Dominion shit all the time because DAMN that shit can get real scary and bleak real fast) is to flesh out the Bajoran faith a bit more, and do more to justify its centrality to the lives of those on the station who acknowledge it.

#ds9 #bajoran religion

[sokorra]

The Rewatch 231: The Homecoming Trilogy

Series: Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (DS9)Episode: 2.1 Homecoming (September 27, 1993) 2.2 The Circle (October 10, 1993), and 2.3 The Seige (October 10, 1993) Season Premiere (plus 2).Rating: 4/5Redshirt Status: 1/1/3.5 Notable Guest Stars: Frank Langella (Minister Jaro)– Langella is known for multiple mediums, winning 4 Tony Awards, and getting an Academy Award nomination.  One of my favorite…

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#Bajoran Religion #Bajorian History #Kai Winn Strikes Again #science fiction #season 2 #Star Trek #Star Trek: Deep Space Nine #television #The Rewatch 2020 #tv reviews

[bijoumikhawal]

one thing bugging me about bajoran religion and world building is its implied worshipping the Pagh Wraiths isn't like, a new thing in Bajoran culture (obviously they were originally part of the Prophets, but they seen to have retained worship after that) and they're a despised religion, but the way that operates irl is more complex than how DS9 allows it by very literally making the Pagh Wraiths villains? I always hate when fantasy and sci-fi media does this "evil god with evil worshippers" thing because of this

#cipher talk #Ds9 #Bajor #Bajoran culture #Actual examples of 'evil' god with actual worshippers: how gnostics viewed Jews and Early Christians #How monotheistic religions usually view other religions #Etc. Obviously you can immediately see how the 'evil' god and followers are not actually evil here #Also it's interesting how the Pagh Wraiths seem more linear than the Prophets #The way they speak and engage with people comes off as more human-like #Could be that they got kicked out over something related to that- the prophets got annoyed with Sisko for asking them to meddle too much #And the line used by their worshippers was abt how the prophets allowed the occupation iirc... hmmm #Maybe they got kicked out for wanting to meddle in linear affairs too much

[antiqua-lugar]

as a trekkie they said "frontier" so much that I am now plotting a whole AU in my head. I feel Wyll would be a great captain (and also literally no one else in the group could do it)

#ah yes the tieflings from the planet infernal #antiqua plays bg3 #not sure if I wanna find different races for them or just be like and move on #karlach as a klingong is so obvious that I don't wanna #astarion would be a great romulan but would never have a bowl cut #althought if he was a romulan kidnapped by orions or some shit and then shipped back he could be like ooooops I forgot it all #no bowl cuts and horrible eyebrows for me! #shadowheart would be a cardassian in the order that is a given #lae'zel would be from somewhere in the gamma quadrant that used to be dominion #gale is still human who was sent to vulcan for psi training and considering he is gale it did NOT go great #halsin is just from a colony where space shit happened and he now he can turn into a bear. no explanation #actually what if he and jaheira were bajorans and druid powers were a result of cardassian fucked up stuff #since halsin and shadowheart do have shar beef #mh. #Mmmmmh #MMMMMMH #bg3 star trek au #that exists only in my mind #minsc should also be bajoran #minthara as a vorta makes no sense but I don't think you can do her religion theme with many others #also purple #I guess in this AU wyll still has horns because space bullshit happened #THE EMPEROR IS A CHANGELING AND BECAUSE THIS IS STAR TREK HE CAN JUST DECIDE HE LIKES BEING A TENTACLE MONSTER AND THEY ALL ACCEPT IT

[defendglobe]

you know what i wanna know? did sisko live a normal human lifespan and then just die or did he like fully ascend to godhood with the prophets at the end of his life?

because if its the latter than it's technically possible that sisko and michael burnham could meet.

#anyway i would KILL for an episode of discovery showing like. the state of DS9's political situation in the 32nd century. #like what unification III and forget me not did for vulcan/ni'var and trill respectively. #is there still some kind of station by the wormhole? did the burn cut off contact with the gamma quadrant? what's the dominion up to now? #how are relations between cardassia and bajor? did the isolation/general chaos of the burn drive them together or worsen the tension? #what's the general opinion on cardassia about the new federation president being part cardassian/part bajoran/part human? #how has bajoran religion changed over the past 1000 years? is the emissary of the prophets still talked about or has that story been lost? #i have so many questions.

[boypussydilf]

the warriors bond between a dude with religious trauma and media that depicts and examines religion and religious viewpoints

#Not just in like a ‘criticizing christianity’ way #Like in a. Idk. It can just be very interesting to me done certain ways. that i dont know how to describe #like one of the things i love abt ds9!!! is how religion is an important part of the story and how they do it #its fictional alien religions but the ideas stand; #it shows how religion can be used in harmful ways- like winn promoting her own self serving viewpoints #and using it as a tool for manipulation and ladder climbing #or when dukat started an Actual Death Cult #but it doesnt treat religion and religious people as idiotic the way …… scifi tends to do. #the bajoran religion is Respected and Important #an important part of the world and of kiras character that isnt ignored or treated negatively. #anyway idk i just like…… seeing fictional characters do interesting things w religion???? #or something ????? #basilposting

[basingstokemercury]

STAR TREK I'M BEGGING YOU TELL US YOUR HUMAN CHARACTERS' SPIRITUAL VIEWS I'M GRASPING AT STRAWS HERE

#space station squad #the julian bashir chronicles #we know he's pretty rationalist from The Reckoning #but in Rivals he seems to believe folk/alternative medicine isn't without its value? which of course is very different from religious belie #*shrug* this is fine I love having to trawl through sparse and sometimes contradictory information #writing theological discussions between star trek characters is complicated but the story has theological themes so I have to #also of course having to extrapolate some things on Bajoran religion but that's significantly easier

[kingoftheu]

Do you think Baseball became like, a cultural touchstone on Bajor because Sisko liked it?

Sisko: "These people have placed a great deal of religious faith in me. I would never abuse that to advance personal interests."

Also Sisko: "Hear Me Bajorans! The Prophets have revealed unto me a new sport! Allow me, your Emissary, to explain the rules of Baseball..."

#star trek deep space nine #star trek ds9 #benjamin sisko #star trek #star trek deep space 9 #ben sisko #captain sisko #commander sisko #baseball #bajorans #bajor #st ds9 #ds9 meme #ds9 posting #ds9 #sports #cultural exchange #religion #let him have a little fun #he used baseball to explain time to the prophets! #that makes it religiously signifigant #qed #starfleet #take me out to the holosuite #emissary #prophets #wormhole #jake sisko #deep space 9 #deep space nine

[joshuaalbert]

honestly I think a bajoran adaptation or like…equivalent of antigone would go unspeakably hard

#the original is so steeped in greek culture and cultural references that I don’t think you could do a straight performance of it #even adapting it to Bajoran history or religion would be essentially a full rewrite #I just think the themes………………..yeah #san rant #ish

[galactic-empress]

#bajoran #yo even if we do somehow get rid of religion in 400 years time. why should that mean we quit wearing traditional folk clothing? #i wish we could all wear religious clothing and i'm atheist af #why do only the aliens get to #this is about the orville

[queerlybelovdd]

#star trek deep space nine #star trek ds9 #bajor #bajorans #cardassians #cardassian occupation #major kira #gul dukat #kai opaka #kai winn #vedek bareil #captain sisko #game rant #bajoran religion #paramount plus

[roguetelepaths]

Don't understand why that "what does your favorite star trek race say about you" post says something about religious trauma for Bajorans. I'm pretty sure that the least traumatic part of being Bajoran is the religion actually

#bajorans arent the religious trauma race. youre thinking of vorta #bajorans are the my religion is the one thing thats gotten me through my trauma race

[vanvietvor]

Every once in awhile I'm reminded how irritated I am at both Benjamin Sisco and Jean-Luc Picard-

#Both of them were given command too soon after their traumatic experiences #Picard was no longer emotionally stable after his time as Locutus #But like #Picard I can forgive okay #but Sisco. Sisco flippin'should have been pulled by Starfleet the moment he got involved with the Bajoran religion #this man was off his rocker the moment his wife died and he never got back on #single-handedly nearly obliterated the relationship starflight had with the Klingons #I just have a lot of feelings raaahgggggg #van blabs

[bijoumikhawal]

You know, I dislike the "the Hebitians were actually early Bajorans" thing purely because it's weirdly bioessentialist to go "these two religious cultures must be the same species", but it's also inconsistent with other betacanon. I know that that's the nature of Star Trek but the main writer who's done the heavy lifting on Hebitians literally stated that they were the first peoples of Cardassia Prime, who envied by other planets and invaded, which if anything would imply first contact between the Hebitians and Ancient Bajorans was... violent, if you want to decide Ancient Bajorans had significant contact with Cardassia Prime, and in fact led to the modern culture of Cardassia oppressing Hebitian culture.

#Cipher talk #Ds9 #Hebitians #I do think there's interplay between what we see of Hebitian Religion and Bajoran religion #What with how Hebitians viewed the past as existing within the present therefore making only the present exist #But that doesn't mean Hebitians were Bajoran #Imo it more likely points to Oralius being the same kind of being as the prophets #And potentially the Hebitians and Ancient Bajorans having been trade partners or something