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#but my idea personally was that they're betraying their family legacies
ministarfruit · 3 months
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day 12: karma ♡
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lesbiansanemi · 7 months
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Ok, imagine this idea. Mugen Train Arc but Kyojuro has a betrothed, a young woman around his age (maybe a little younger, but nothing alarming) he doesn't like that much, he doesn't even know her that much, but he wants to continue the legacy of the Rengoku bloodline (mostly because he knows he won't be having a long life as a slayer and doesn't want this ending being a burden that Senjuro will have to carry neither by training or marriage). He at least has some control over it and was able to choose someone by himself, a daughter of one of his parent's friend. At least is someone he knew about before starting the engagement.
He convinces himself he actually wants it, that he should actually put the effort into knowing and loving his future wife, that it's meant to be, only natural that he, a man of wealth and with a prestigious name (even if it's only in the demon slaying business) marries a young lady and continue the legacy. [Kyojuro is in the closet cause of heteronormativity]
Then in his fight with Akaza he notices he is making no effort in going back home or to his betrothed, that he doesn't want to go back.... [Also Akaza running around being a bisexual icon, time to force blonde queer out the closet! >:D]
No yeah cuz like, see, my personal little headcanon for Kyojuro is that he is 100% a gay man. Also think he can admit to himself that he likes men, there's not really any questions about that, however, he is desperately trying to delude himself into thinking he also likes women due to the expectation of him to get married. Not just in a societal sense due to the time period, but like you mentioned. The Rengokus are an old, prestigious family. Of course among the Corps, but I'd reckon they're well known by the general population around where they live, just due to their money alone, let alone their family history as swordsman. And as the eldest son, Kyojuro is one hundred percent expected to marry a well bred young lady, just as his father did, and his father, so on and so forth. It's just something he's always known. So.... of course he likes women. He has to like women. He has to. He doesn't have a choice. He likes them. He does!
So the idea of him ending up engaged with a woman that he doesn't know well seems very realistic to me, and adds a fun little facet of his character. Especially when you approach it from this angle where he feels like he should care for her or at least put a genuine effort into trying but he just... can't seem to do it. Why not? His parents were engaged in a similar way, and obviously they loved each other deeply! What the hell is wrong with him? Why can't he do it?
It also add an extremely fun and angsty angle to him ending up being infatuated with Akaza. Not only do you have the taboo nature of their relationship due to them being a demon and a slayer, but Kyojuro feels as if he's betraying his future wife by even being attracted to Akaza.
And on Akaza's side of things.... I think at first it would even make him feel guilty for reasons he doesn't quite understand, pursuing Kyojuro when he's mentioned having a fiance. After all, pursuing someone who is engaged who wants nothing to do with him..... Hm..... pushing some familiar buttons he's not even aware that he has. Ultimately though, after spending time around Kyojuro, I think it would become obvious to Akaza that he doesn't actually love this girl and is only going through with a marriage out of obligation. At that point, he would most definitely get very into the idea of convincing Kyojuro to break it off, for his own sake
So yeah! I think it would add a really interesting spin to their dynamic, and would make sense given the time period and societal expectations for a man like Kyojuro
(Also semi-reminds me of my personal kinda crack headcanon of Kyojuro and Shinobu coming to an arrangement and deciding to get engaged to essentially be each other beards and literally everyone who knows them is like "oh hold on a fucking second what the fuck is going on you cannot convince me you have feelings for each other." I just think it's very funny, and well.... Kyojuro needs a wife. Shinobu might not come from a well known family or anything, but she's obviously well known amongst the Corps.... She's a good option. And Shinobu agrees because well.... She just kind of intended to never get married but hey, a legal husband does get a bit of suspicion off her and again, given the time period, much easier for a woman to get by with a husband than without, assuming she survives the end of the series and the Corps dissolves and she has to be involved with normal society at large again. It's a good deal for her too. Tangent, but I think it's a funny scenario lmao)
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musical-chick-13 · 4 months
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what are some of your favorite f/f ships?
YES. EXCELLENT QUESTION.
The™ f/f ship for me is, probably, Mireille/Silvana from Noir (2001). Which. Yeah, of course I would imprint on the unpopular extra-fucked-up dynamic that lasted for two episodes out of a total of 26. BUT THOSE TWO EPISODES GAVE ME EVERYTHING. You represent everything I'm afraid of. I know exactly how to fuck you up because I understand you. I betrayed and broke you once in your past and we both never, ever forgot about it. "REVENGE IS THE GREATEST ACT OF FORGIVENESS." I'M!!!!!
Another heavy hitter is Rita/Laura from Doom Patrol. They have the whole "friendship gone bad because of personal differences," "intensely drawn to each other in every situation," "please say you're like me so I don't have to feel alone" thing. They make me feral.
Hope/Lizzie from Legacies is also excellent. The development from rivals to frenemies to, and I quote, "bonded for life," complete with "who tf are you becoming" angst and a canonically mentally ill character being treated with genuine understanding and respect is TOP-TIER.
And the obligatory crackship deep-cut is Iris/Zenna from the Dutch opera Sunken Garden. They're implied to have known each other for a long time and they fight to the death :)
For less...uh. Tumultuous. F/F dynamics, there's Michiru/Nazuna from Brand New Animal, an example of friendship (albeit one with some complications) to possibly more that really works for me. As well as Meg/Joan from The March Family Letters who are really, really sweet.
And, of course, I would be remiss if I didn't mention my first-ever f/f ship Olivia/Natalia from Guiding Light. They had...a long road getting there, but watching them get there was SO GOOD. THEY'RE SO GOOD. TENSION. EVENTUAL FRIENDSHIP. CONFLICT WITH CATHOLICISM. BEING TERRIFIED TO QUESTION THEIR IDENTITIES OR DESTABILIZE THEIR PLATONIC LOVE. AAAAHHH.
This is getting long, so speedrun of some other faves: Bubbline from Adventure Time. Rem/Misa from the stage musical version of Death Note (and me shipping Misa with just about every woman in the original series). Charlotte/Lizzie from Netflix's The Perfection. Eleanor/Drea from Do Revenge. Flor/Jazmín from Las Estrellas. Madlax/Limelda from Madlax. And most recent acquisition, exploring the really unhinged, unpopular idea of Himeno/Makima from CSM.
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fakeikemen · 4 years
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The Roku/Sozin ancestry plot twist for Zuko
Like I’m sure this has been said before but the twist about Zuko being a descendant of both Roku and Sozin is actually a disservice to his character and his narrative as well? The way the narrative frames this reveal along with Iroh's dialogue, it backtracks on a lot of the story we are shown in Book 1&2 (and sometimes it even clashes with some dialogues in Book 3).
Iroh: “Because understanding the struggle between your two great-grandfathers can help you better understand the battle within yourself. Evil and good are always at war inside you, Zuko. It is your nature, your legacy. But, there is a bright side. What happened generations ago can be resolved now, by you. Because of your legacy, you alone can cleanse the sins of our family and the Fire Nation. Born in you, along with all the strife, is the power to restore balance to the world.”
1. This implies that there are equal amounts of good and evil in Zuko and his internal struggle is about choosing one of them.
The core qualities of Zuko as a character are empathy, compassion and kindness. A person who always gets upset when he sees or even thinks about other people in pain, a person who spoke out against powerful people to save lives that were being sacrificed needlessly, a person who shows mercy to people who don’t deserve it, a person who is willing to reach out a hand to save the life of the man who tried to kill him, a person who avoids fights when possible, a person who is willing to fight on behalf of a family he has known for only one night, a person who reaches out to sympathise after being yelled at— a person like this is definitely not struggling with equal parts of good and evil within them.
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Zuko does have two selves, but they can be categorised as pre-scar and post-scar.
His pre-scar version is the version who was unabashedly kind and compassionate, who spoke his mind without thinking of consequences. But his post-scar version was a cover up of the pre-scar version. It was a lie that Zuko lived everyday. He convinced himself that this was how he had to be; because this was what Ozai wanted him to be and that there was no other way.
And yet, when the situation is dire and he is depending on his instincts or when he is given a free choice, we see the pre-scar Zuko spring into action. Because that’s who he really is. It’s not a struggle between good and evil within him, it is his supressed self making an appearance when he slips up and fails to maintain his facade.
Perhaps the line that describes his internal struggle the best is this:
Zuko, imitating Iroh: Zuko, you have to look within yourself to save yourself from your other self. Only then will your true self, reveal itself.
And while this dialogue was played for laughs, it is the most accurate description of how Zuko had to reach for his suppressed self, his real self, to save himself from becoming what Ozai wanted him to be.
2. It also implies that Ozai and Ursa had equal influence on Zuko's upbringing and that he struggled to chose between what was taught to him by Ursa (good) and Ozai (evil).
The idea that Zuko has equal amounts of good and evil inside himself goes hand in hand with idea that the good and evil traits in him have been passed onto him by Ursa and Ozai's upbringings respectively which are legacies of Roku and Sozin.
I don’t need to look any further than “Zuko Alone” to know that Ozai's impact on Zuko's upbringing was slim to none. The flashbacks that we see, are dominated by Ursa's presence. Ozai hardly gets any time onscreen. And when he does, he is shown as a silhouette and when he isn’t a silhouette, we only see him smile at Azula's display of skills and frown at Zuko's attempt.
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Ozai was Zuko's father alright, but never in the ways that mattered. We know that Ozai abused Zuko. He constantly belittled him and compared him to Azula. Partially because Zuko lacked the natural talent that Azula had and partially because he lacked the ruthlessness and cruelty that Azula displayed even at her age.
Which made Zuko copy Azula's behaviour to get his father’s acceptance. But whenever Ursa noticed this, she immediately corrected Zuko and clearly told him that it was wrong.
Ozai is never shown to tell Zuko that whatever Ursa told him was wrong. Ozai personally never taught him anything (except that one time). He appreciated Azula's behaviour and encouraged her to keep it up but he just kept on expressing his disappointment in Zuko.
Ursa: Remember this, Zuko. No matter how things may seem to change, never forget who you are.
Zuko's innate kindness and compassion were protected by Ursa in the formative years when he was at his most pliable. And this is why no matter what happens, he never loses these qualities and is able to retain his real self even after he tried hard to suppress it.
3. It diminishes the extent of psychological damage and trauma caused by the scarring incident.
The one time Ozai did take it upon himself to teach something to Zuko:
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Ozai: You will learn respect, and suffering will be your teacher.
(Notice that here too Ozai's form is silhouetted against the light behind him.)
The scar is so much more than just a scar to Zuko. It is the one lesson that Ozai taught him. The scar exists because of Zuko's innate compassion. It was put on his face in an attempt to burn out his compassion. It was put there to be a constant reminder of what would happen if he dared to do something that went against what Ozai wanted from him. The scar was Ozai’s brand on his face. It took away Zuko's autonomy to make decisions for himself. It was a constant reminder that Zuko’s opinions didn’t matter.
Post-scar Zuko is Zuko's attempt at supressing his real persona to become the person Ozai wanted him to be, because he learned the hard way that he didn’t have the choice to be anyone else.
In fact, the first time Zuko makes a deliberate choice to go against what was expected of him, (letting Appa go) he succumbed to a fever. His emotional turmoil of coming to terms with the fact that he didn’t need to listen to Ozai and abide by him; a notion that he had been force feeding himself, everyday, for the last three years, manifested itself physically in the form of a fever. That was how deep the psychological damage caused by the scar was. (I hate it when people call it an angst coma.)
Saying that Zuko was struggling with equal amounts of good and evil within him, oversimplifies the complex emotional trajectory he had about coming to terms with the abuse he went through and reclaiming his autonomy and his personal opinions and beliefs, into just a choice between two aspects of his personality.
Zuko: I wanted to speak out against this horrifying plan, but I'm ashamed to say I didn't. My whole life, I struggled to gain my father's love and acceptance, but once I had it, I realized I'd lost myself getting there. I'd forgotten who I was.
4. This implies that Zuko's destiny was pre-determined.
Iroh said in the dialogue that Zuko was born with the power to restore balance in the world and that only he could do it.
Zuko, the character who has always had to struggle to gain what he wanted is suddenly told of an advantage that he had just by the virtue of birth? Kinda defeats the purpose of: "Azula was born lucky; I was lucky to be born", if you ask me.
And even more importantly, he let go of the destiny that Ozai forced on him, only to take on another predetermined destiny; a destiny that was his to fulfil by the virtue of birth, and took steps to fulfil this other destiny, instead of making a destiny of his own and paving his own path to it by making the choices that he had been denied for so long because of Ozai. Which seems weird because all the other times Iroh talks to Zuko about this topic, he always emphasises on how it’s Zuko's choice to make his own destiny:
Lake Laogai:
Zuko: I want my destiny.
Iroh: What that means is up to you.
Lake Laogai:
Zuko: I know my own destiny, Uncle!
Iroh: Is it your own destiny, or is it a destiny someone else has tried to force on you?
Zuko: Stop it, Uncle! I have to do this!
Iroh: I'm begging you, Prince Zuko! It's time for you to look inward and begin asking yourself the big questions. Who are you, and what do you want?
Crossroads of Destiny:
Iroh: Zuko, I am begging you. Look into your heart and see what it is that you truly want.
Western Air Temple:
Iroh: You know Prince Zuko, destiny is a funny thing. You never know how things are going to work out. But if you keep an open mind, and an open heart, I promise you will find your own destiny someday.
5. It indirectly implies that the good™ in Ursa and Zuko exists because they are a part of the Avatar's legacy.
Making Ursa a daughter of a nobleman (as intended originally)* would’ve served a much better purpose for the message that the episode was trying to get across: “the Fire Nation isn’t inherently evil”.
Katara: You mean, after all Roku and Sozin went through together, even after Roku showed him mercy, Sozin betrayed him like that?
Toph: It's like these people are born bad.
Aang: Roku was just as much Fire Nation as Sozin was, right? If anything, their story proves anyone's capable of great good and great evil. Everyone, even the Fire Lord and the Fire Nation have to be treated like they're worth giving a chance.
Had Ursa not been Roku’s descendant, then there would've been people other than just Roku and his descendants, who were Fire Nation and good™. (Iroh is literally the only exception.)
Moreover, Azula is just as much a part of “Roku’s legacy” as Zuko is, and yet is completely overlooked when it comes to it. She isn’t shown to be struggling with equal amounts of good and evil. She isn’t gifted at birth with the capacity to bring balance back to the world. It appears as if she had inherited only “Sozin's legacy”.
So, not only does this Roku/Sozin twist go against Zuko's fundamental characterisation, but it also partially deconstructs the narrative that had been carefully set up for him over the course of 2 seasons.
*(I have been looking relentlessly for the post where I saw two screen caps of the two different characterisations of Ursa: 1. Ursa as we see her in "Zuko Alone"; 2. Ursa as Roku's descendant. And I can't find it now otherwise I would've linked it.)
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This is probably going to be a doozy to read, I'm so sorry
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Vision holder reader losing memories from vision hunt or other accident and they got saved by the rebellion or someone else, changing their looks and leaving their old identity behind. They became a fatui after going to where the tsarista is (they faintly remember talking about going to ice nation with someone (mothman) so they go there in hopes of remembering their old life because they remember nothing. They were promised helped to remember but with all the duties that were given, they forgot their goal in the first place. Because of what happened in Inuzuma, their death was reported so mothman thought they were dead. They cross paths (maybe randomly but for maximum angst perhaps a battle field or they were sent to eliminate him to take his place as the 11th harbinger or kill him for treason of he left the ratio or betrayed the tsarista.) Oh, and I just thought about them having visited mothman's family before (which was why there was a memory discussing going to ice nation) and being ordered to take care of them after taking care of mothman. And perhaps the reader went through a training program where they lost all emotions so they don't care of they kill or not. They are just a tool to serve her majesty. Alternative route, reader joins the resistance for trying to repay debt. After the events is 2.1, they just stay at Inazuma since they have no idea where to go anymore and the resistance is like their found family. Due to appearance change, traveler has no clue it's them if they had ever met. So they may never see mothman again unless they join the crux and go to liyue or mothman somehow goes to inazuma. Another route can be same two routes but with a visionless reader who was at the wrong place at the wrong time. They lost their memories due to injury.
Reader getting into a accident and mothman wasn't there to protect them. There's three routes. Route one, reader loses their memories. Mothman can be out frantically looking for them and when he finds them, reader shys away from him terrified. They are bleeding out and injures themselves more and more trying to get away from him. He gets help after they pass out. Reader can regain memories or no in a point of time. If not, it's a hit it or miss if they decide to trust and build a relationship with mothman again. Route two, reader goes into a coma. I'm not sure how reader gonna get nutrients since no IVs o maybe hand feeding. The reader may or not wake up, and if they do they might have lost their memories which ties route one in. The third route is reader dies and becomes ghost, unable to interact with mothman anymore and watches as he falls apart. They try and try to interact but mothman can't see or feel them. Reader gets help making their special dish and/or doing things they normally do to try and tell mothman they're still here but mothman is not having it. Maybe in a rage mothman goes on a spree and kills a lot of monsters, forcing traveler to kick his ass in order to make sure liyue is safe. Twist is that he may get hit hard enough that he forgets reader. I feel like mothman can go on a spree for either of the three. Oh, if reader is a ghost maybe they don't remember anything other than death. And maybe, just maybe, reader can come back as a zombie?
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Reader somehow falling into the abyss helping traveller or just taking care if the abyss in general. Reader gets corrupted and loses their memories, turning into a weapon of war for the abyss order. Perhaps getting a form like foul legacy… Or maybe turning into one of the abyss creatures? I think I remember it being canon that the abyss mages were from the lost nation that I cannot spell that Kaeya and Dainsielf were from. So reader can be killed or fatally wounded by mothman. They would maybe mention something only they know which makes mothman realize oh no they just practically killed their favorite person. Maybe reader haunts him as a ghost because both can't let go. Or they live and both of them fight and fight again, breaking mothman's heart more.
Reader being mothman's blood or adoptive older or younger sibling who became a zombie after dying at his hands. It could have been when he first got foul legacy, during the golden palace fiasco, releasing the sea god, etc. The reader can remember and be afraid of him or not remember and be afraid. If they do remember, they likely remember their death and their once beloved brother's part in it. They would most likely stay away from him and stay mostly with their newfound friend Qiqi. Maybe also befriending Xiao and Xiao keeping the 'monster' away from the two zombies. Cue sad mothman and him pestering zhongli so xiao can be nicer.
Reader dying by a hydro and/or electro vision user or maybe abyss creatures, so every time mothman sees water or lightning he's reminded of the death. Maybe it makes thunderstorms worse because he hears the thunder and rain and think about how your last moments were like. I also remember that mothman was scared of thunderstorms so this is more fuel to the fear. Maybe that makes him more scared of himself though I don't know if he has access to both hydro and electro in this form.
this WAS a doozy to read, but it was a doozy in every good way this cleared my pore and watered my crops holy SHIT
i see you have a lot of memory loss brainrot, and i RAISE YOU a concept: you're dying in his arms and too weak to struggle and you somehow remember and cough out his name with your last breath >:)c
oh oh maybe when you fall into the Abyss you fall alone and you end up transforming into a creature like Childe down there (see my Transformative AU) and you crawl your way out of it suffering and in pain to try and find him again
personally i hc that Childe can use at least Hydro in moth form!! Delusions apparently hurt the body so idk if he'd WANT to use it unless absolutely necessary, but i think he CAN use it if he needs to!
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redsixwing · 5 years
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🖊+Master or Flame and 🖊+Masked Fox
You picked two who have strong personalities and a sort of self-will. I don't so much maneuver them into stories as consult them about what they're up to. Not all my OCs are like that. (Not even all the ones on the list are like that.)
Master of Flame:
MY BOY<3
Inhabitant of the "master of flame" and "he's a villain I swear" tags, the Phoenix has been around for a large chunk of my life.
I was playing with ideas for a tabletop game I was running, and came up with something I hoped was creative, interesting, and nasty, intending him to be a recurring villain with a hunger for revenge. I gave him a cruel curse, a sharp temper, and a hook the party wouldn't be able to resist.
And then he sort of walked in, fully formed, and reworked my entire plot to be about him. His full, true name dates from that original game. He was intended to be a corruptor, intent on getting the party to do his bidding, and seducible to the good if they tried.
I looked for historical inspiration, and found groups of horse-riding nomadic archers, frequently red-headed, little-known: Scythians. And he wanted red hair anyway, so I cribbed shamelessly.
The party decided he was responsible for an important death, swore revenge, and threw over their original plot in favor of pursuing him. And what's a GM to do? I followed along. We had a good time. But almost every session, he'd feel melancholy and think, it could have been different.
When I revisited that game setting in a later game, I decided it might be fun to have him do a cameo. I thought, I won't let him wrap the whole plot around himself again.
Guess what he did. xD And now resolving his curse - the same one I spent days refining - a major plot point. A PC is falling in love with him; it's very mutual. Things are different.
He's the first character I've bought a fancy doll to represent, because the fun of having a small poseable version around to cheer on craft projects sounded great. And now he wants information about Central Asian history and reconstruction... clothes... A horse... Maybe a wagon...
This is great. He gives me things to think about that aren't anxiety-inducing, and excuses to indulge my historical interests and try new skills at small scale.
Masked Fox:
Another well-beloved character! Her epithet is a nod to her origins as an L5R Scorpion clan samurai. In that incarnation, she carried swords, battled fierce monsters of many kinds, and stood side by side with an Empress Regent after the fall of her daimyo and disgrace of her clan. Her ironclad sense of duty drove her to risk her life, her friends' lives, and everything else she cared about to serve what she saw as the greater good.
Funny enough, she had a curse, too; a family affair. Somewhere in her ancestry was a trace of Yogo blood, and she, like that unfortunate ancestor, would inevitably betray those she loved.
She did, too.
She became unexpectedly close to an Imperial scribe, a samurai so far above her in rank that she never dared admit, even to herself, how much she cared for him. He was an Otomo, member of the highest family; she not only a Shosuro and thus suspect but default, but a former actor, a weaver of lies. She sent gifts, and found reasons to help him, and they discussed history and literature, and she thought herself lucky to have a friend.
He was killed by an enemy they shared, and if it had been found out, his city would have been thrown into chaos.
So she impersonated him. Took his seal; imitated his voice. Lied to everyone, in his name. Betrayed everything he stood for, in order to save his legacy.
She kept his wakizashi even after she'd had to sacrifice her own to fake her death. When she had laid down the representation of her soul, she yet carried his.
She runs on loyalty. I maintain a list when I'm playing her, and any conflict in its ranks is immensely angsty fodder for character development.
Her latest incarnation is that of a Shuos infiltrator in a Hexarchate RPG, using all her acting and social skills in concert. I'm having immense amounts of fun figuring out how to overthrow the Hexarchs - which may first involve taking over a rebellion.
She's a very active sort in my head, second only to the Phoenix. Quiet. Observant.
I'm looking forward to writing her more, because the way she sees the world is so different than what I normally do.
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