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#can be any robin really and from any timeline or whatnot
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"Come get your child." Robin stared incredulously at this...entity? Being? He was a child himself, how could he possibly have a kid of his own.
The creature huffed, seeming very put out by the young vigilantes confusion. "What is there to not understand? Your child has been running wild in the Infinite Realms for a while now. Ever since that portal exploded hes been taking his emotions out on everyone!" The thing said, throwing her hands into the air, "And you!" Robin stepped back a pace or two when he suddenly found a very sharp claw in his face, "I had to do a lot of searching to even find you! What kind of parent are you?!"
"I'm not."
The entity opened and closed its mouth a few times like a fish before suddenly becoming furious, "Its no wonder hes like this when his gardian has so little interest in him! Did you know the other day he plugged a liquor bottle with a cloth and lit it on fire? I don't even know where he got it, but he lit the cloth and yelled something like, "mazzle toff" and threw it at my own adult son!"
"..."
"When my little boy burst into flames do you know what he said to me?"
"...no, but I feel like you're going to tell me anyways."
"I'm sorry ma'am I wasn't expecting there to be that much fire."
"That much? So he fully intended to set someone ablaze but the amount of fire is what troubled him?"
"Yes!" She growled, exasperated, "Please come get your child as soon as possible! Hes terrorizing the whole dimension!"
Damian found himself staring at open space the woman had occupied previously before contacting Oracle through the coms, "Did you get all of that?"
It was Grayson that spoke, "Every word."
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Aka Danny has a lot of misplaced aggression and kinda terrorizes parts of the GZ. Unfortunately for him hes a clone of one of the bats (weather or not you want it to be Damian, Project R or someone else that hes cloned from is up to you) and they're coming to him to assess if he's an evil clone or mindless or whatever.
Too bad Danny sucks at first impressions.
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in his stuff u mention how he feels about zaun and whatnot, have you ever gone into detail about his feelings / relationship with zaun before and after leaving it?
ANON ASK
I'm so pleased about this ask! Robin's feelings about Zaun are mentioned in his lore page, which I'm revising as of now, but the feeling remains the same. He also doesn't get to speak about it outloud very often as he tends to not only avoid the subject, but not many people have asked him about it. So in drabbles and writing it only pops up as a momentary thought rather than something he can sit down and explain. I think even if he did try to explain it, he'd struggle.
Robin grew up extremely impoverished in the Entresol level of Zaun, and for the longest time, he's held nothing but dread for the city. He has always had a deep rooted feeling that Zaun was a beast that would eventually kill him, and it is actually the driving force around why he worked so hard in order to be accepted at the Academy in Piltover.
Upon being born in the Entresol Level, it is not difficult to see how one could quickly grow uncertain about their own existence. Leaning over the edge of the Sump, the denizens faced threats from above and below. Disease, suffocating smog, chembarons attacking businesses and selling children off for profit, the wardens and enforcers seemingly snuffing out any sense of individualism that could lead to chaos. How horrible to try and make a home in a place where everything seems to want you dead. 
Piltover was a very beautiful distraction for Robin and one that he actively tried to keep himself in, he was terrified of returning back down to Zaun, with its smog filled air and instability. Granted this paranoia pushed him to become extremely stressed and he often burnt himself out, because he was not just trying to get out of Zaun himself, but to give his siblings, Wren and Linnet, a better future. It should also be noted that while Robin doesn't like Zaun -- he went into medicinal studies in order to help Zaunites, and loved the people that he grew up around. He adored his family, the children he used to play with, and how, despite being wrought with violence, many people would choose to help eachother instead of hurting eachother.
A chance to push back the ever-rising fears that occupy the deepest corners of the human brain. To be free from lack of control, physical vulnerability, and the unknown nature of death.
Academia provided an escape route from the anxieties of impoverishment, and Robin quickly took it, investing his time and energy into his work as long as he could; simply to avoid walking back into the horrific underbelly of a city he learned to despise. 
His impoverishment also was the leading cause of the gas leak that spilled into his home, his parents and himself both slaved away at work but there was always something to pay for that eventually lead to the foundation of their very home crumbling. When Robin found them and came upon all of this, his brain kept relaying the same message to him, Zaun had killed them. The city itself was rotted and it was punishing him, as now even though he moved permanently into Piltover he felt all of those fears on a constant: lack of control, physical vulnerability, and the unknown nature of death. This culminated in a mental breakdown which allowed a Demon into his nest, posing as a friend, and he was too riddled with grief to really process what A/Bel was--an inhuman parasite that manipulated a vulnerable child. So, he ended up working in Zaun once more, wickedness belongs in a dark pit after all, but he kept his private life and living quarters up in PIltover due to the paranoia of another leak, or worse. However, ultimately, the work he did in Zaun would come to kill him, and complete the cycle.
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Robin's revival caused a lot of memory lapses in his mind, as well, so large chunks of what Zaun was to him are currently missing from his internal timeline. He remembers very specific or important events, the gas leak, for instance, but the rest is somewhat splotchy. He remembers being a doctor, that he worked in Zaun's underbelly, that it was a vile and wicked place but his work in Piltover's Academy has been practically wiped from his mind. With his growing friendships though, Bel is getting stronger and actually being able to feed--and his memory is slowly returning. However one thing has never left him, and it's that Zaun is simply a bad place that he should try and avoid.
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How old was jason when he died? And when he was resurrected?? And that time he spent dead make him crazier than Ra's when he is under the pit's effect?
The general consensus as far as I’m aware is that Jason was fifteen when he died, and he came back to Gotham in Under the Red Hood about five years later. There’s a couple different versions of the in between time, but most common I believe is that he was resurrected due to multiverse bullshit (like, the official explanation is that an evil teenage version of Clark Kent punched the dimensional walls of the place he was trapped outside of normal time/space so hard that the ripple effects of him breaking through like, caused ‘hiccups’ or anomalies across various universes - one of these being Jason’s resurrection. Yeah. I’m not making this up. LOL).
ANYWAY. The go-to version of the timeline I believe is that this happened about six months after Jason died, which was right around the time Tim started trying to convince Dick to come back and be Robin again and ultimately ended up becoming Robin himself. When Jason dug himself out of his grave, he was largely catatonic and unresponsive, and here’s where it tends to be most vague. After some period of time, which could have been anything from days to weeks to months, depending on who you ask, Talia was in Gotham for supervillain shenanigans or whatnot, came across him and realized who he was, and took him back to the League with her. 
Where again it depends on who you ask, after some period of time, ultimately Talia convinced Ra’s to put Jason in the Pit to see if it would restore him to full consciousness and heal the remaining physical after-effects of his death. And also, her reasons for doing this tend to be subject to your own personal interpretation of Talia. Some view this as her doing it for Bruce’s sake, some view it as her just wanting to use Jason as her pawn against Bruce, etc.
Personally, I view it as somewhat in between, though again this is just my take. I ignore ‘Talia the rapist’ characterizations in both regards to her actions with Bruce and Jason, so I mean, I’m just not here for Morrison or Winick’s take on her in that regard. BUT I also kinda....highly object to the ‘soft’ characterizations of Talia that kind of make her the ideal parent that highlights how crappy Bruce is in comparison? Like, its no secret that I’m hugely critical of Bruce’s parenting, but I just....personally am not a fan of acting like Talia is amazing at it and noble and selfless either. I don’t like the outright vilification of Talia - especially when she ends up coming across as worse than Ra’s, which, no thank you - BUT I don’t like...blunting all her edges either, for lack of a better phrasing. 
I tend to view her as someone who is extremely ambitious, ruthless and uncompromising in her own ways. I think a huge part of her dynamic with Bruce is that they mirror each other in so many ways, even if they’re not always on the same page. She’s often used as a narrative foil to Bruce, but I disagree - I think Selina and Bruce are the ‘opposites attract’ whereas Talia and Bruce are the ‘like calls to like/their bond in large part stems from how well they understand each other, even though they have different goals and aims most of the time’. 
But point being, like......I don’t like shallow, two-dimensional interpretations of Talia where she’s just evil and has no shades of gray to her, but I also don’t like the flip side of that and her being viewed as the lesser of two evils compared to Bruce. Like, sorry not sorry, I think both of them need to take some parenting classes. Unless you drastically change Damian’s entire backstory and characterization by the time he arrives in Gotham, and/or insist that Damian’s upbringing was all entirely due to Ra’s control and Talia at no point in ten years had the option of arranging for her son to end up with Bruce or somewhere else where he didn’t spend his childhood being taught that affection was a sign of weakness and how to murder his nanny in six hundred different ways and show his work plz, like......I have trouble with the super!mom Talia takes.
All of which is just to say....I don’t believe Talia brought Jason back with her and put him in the Pit out of the goodness of her heart, but I don’t think it was entirely absent of positive intentions either? If that makes sense? I just mean...she’s a SUPER complicated woman in my take, and that’s what makes her so much more interesting than she’s usually reduced to being in a lot of stories. Talia is not as stone cold as she often comes across as a defense mechanism - I think she is someone who feels things deeply, but she shuts that down even harder than Bruce. She’s a very pragmatic individual, and I think she tends to justify a lot of even her most emotional-driven choices by finding an advantageous spin she can put forth as her ‘real reason’ for doing things.
So....I think her feelings for Bruce DID have a lot to do with her taking Jason with her. She does love Bruce in her own way, she always keeps an eye on him so she absolutely had to have been aware just how badly Jason’s death was affecting him, and so I think when she first saw Jason and realized who he was....I do think on a gut level, her motivations were like, she felt a need or want to take him with her and see that he was well cared for, for Bruce’s sake if nothing else.
BUT....I think the complication is she has trouble justifying that to herself, even, let alone to her father or subordinates or any of the others who constantly seek an edge over her within the League’s inner power structures and hierarchies. So I think that’s where the pragmatic side of her took over, and once she DID see to Jason at least nominally being taken care of....that’s when she started to look at it in terms of how she could play this to her advantage as well.....and whether that ultimately was in pursuit of convincing Bruce to join her side, and using Jason as leverage there, or just hurting Bruce for rejecting and hurting her and her chosen path, and using Jason to accomplish that.....tbh, like I said, I see Talia as an extremely complicated person and IMO the most likely take is that even SHE probably couldn’t say which she truly wanted or intended.....or perhaps it just changed at various points, and more than once.
My point with this tangent is I think there tends to be a very narrow focus on Jason’s return and Talia’s role in it as opposed to just the Pit in general. As much as Talia did help Jason, I think it doesn’t get acknowledged enough that as long as her own motivations and agenda were AT ANY LEVEL behind her choice not to reveal he was alive to Bruce....that’s something that I think could use more scrutiny in fandom, because that is a selfish choice, even if she did nominally spin it as being in Jason’s best interests. I just mean....it was a complicated situation, she’s a complicated person, you can’t add that up and still walk away with the simple narrative “Talia helped Jason after he came back to life and everything she did was to his benefit and in his best interests’ you know?
The thing is, the Pit’s influence aside, we have NO idea how things might have gone if Bruce, Dick and Alfred had ever gotten the CHANCE to get to Jason immediately after his submersion in the Pit and try and help him through it.....because Talia and Ra’s didn’t allow for them to ever have that chance. And that is a hugely critical plot point I think, that’s gone largely unexplored. There’s a lot of attention paid to how Jason felt upon learning that the Joker was alive, that there was a new Robin....but not a ton of attention paid to the HOW of Jason finding out all these things, and just how exactly this information was delivered to him and in what framing and context.
Because again, Pit influence aside....just sheerly in terms of the massive trauma and disorientation Jason had to have been going through upon having his full cognitive faculties restored by the Pit.....like....Jason came back to Gotham as an adult, ultimately. But at THAT stage of things....he was still likely only sixteen or so. VERY young. VERY traumatized. COMPLETELY isolated from all previous existing support networks.....and all of that adds up to being VERY. VERY. Impressionable.
And this is the part I wish got more focus. Just how much influence Talia, Ra’s and the League in general had over Jason’s thought processes, morality and ethics during that period he lived and trained with them....in the wake of a massive traumatic ordeal and with zero effort paid towards helping him cope and recover in any way other than what they laid out for him there. See, whatever Talia’s actual motivations for bringing him back and putting him in the Pit were....there’s not really any denying IMO that once that was done, she still took advantage of the opportunity Jason’s impressionability and gratitude for what she’d done (and just the interest and care she’d demonstrated in his eyes merely by doing it)....like, she still took advantage of the...influence this gave her over him.
Like.....Under the Red Hood? Eight heads in a duffle bag as Jason brutally slaughtered some of the key members of various crime organizations in Gotham and used that to gain the attention and fear and/or respect of various crime lords and organizations?
That didn’t come out of nowhere. And personally I think there’s too much focus paid to Jason’s potential for violence before his death, the murkiness surrounding Felipe Garzona’s death, and the effect the Pit still had on his mind when he returned to Gotham.......and not enough focus paid on WHERE AND WHO HE SPENT ALL HIS TIME WITH IN BETWEEN THESE THINGS.  
Because as brutal as Jason could be at times as Robin......eight heads in a duffel bag is still a LONG way away from that. What its NOT a long way away from, however....is League of Assassins training, methodology and worldview.
Like, literally everything Jason did in Under the Red Hood came right smack out of the League’s playbook, so I’ve always just been like....forget the Pit for a second, guys! What about just....examining what effect being surrounded and trained by League assassins for three or four straight years in the wake of massive, life-altering trauma and circumstances that make you feel both INDEBTED to said League and BETRAYED BY all your previous loved ones who weren’t there for you....because they never had the opportunity TO be there, given that they weren’t the ones that ran into Jason while he was on the streets after digging himself up and like, even in the DC universe AT THAT TIME ‘hey wonder if he might end up resurrected somehow’ was not like, something that was at the forefront of anyone’s mind as a likely possibility?
LOL. Anyway. So that’s my hot take on Jason’s return.....yes, the Pit undoubtedly played a role, but I would love love love to see more of a role given just to looking at the sheer INFLUENCE the League and their teachings had over an isolated, traumatized and impressionable teenager.
As for the Pit itself.....that’s a topic for another day, probably, lol, but like...I have a LOT of thoughts about the Pit and how its used in various narratives, canon and otherwise. Because the thing is....its effects STARTED out as being brought into stories about Ra’s as kind of a moral fable. Like, essentially, the effects of the Pit in early stories were like....IMO more intended as a cautionary type narrative about the dangers of greed and being power-hungry, seeking to control even life and death, etc? I just mean like.....it originally came off as more of the idea “there’s no such thing as a free lunch” or in essence...everything has a price, and with something like immortality, the price is steep. There was a lot of focus initially on the idea that Ra’s was the man he’d become...only after centuries of using the Pit’s power to remain young, vital and alive. Power corrupts, essentially.
However, the problem I have...is that narrative becomes a wholly different thing when the Pit affects someone who DIDN’T seek to use its power, who wasn’t using it for selfish gain....nor like in Jason’s case...did they even have a choice about using it at all! This is the same issue I have with keeping Dick as a Talon in Court of Owls stories, and certain ways Cassandra’s story is told and her body language skills are used and discussed: I have a deep dissatisfaction with the idea of abuse inflicted by others, being like...the origin story or source of someone’s powers....when its paired at the same time with consequences that the person never asked for, would never have asked for......but the powers themselves tend to be the only thing focused on, rather than the drawbacks, with the overall takeaway ending up being that like.....the person should be grateful that the abuse happened in the first place because now they have these powers see, and isn’t that the most important thing?
So to correct myself, it isn’t quite the same thing, but I mean....the issue I have with Jason and the Pit here, in comparison, is that....Jason had no agency in choosing to go into the Pit. So to me.....its a big, BIG problem to have him ‘benefit’ from that in the form of look, he’s alive and well again, he has a second chance.....IF equal scrutiny isn’t being paid to the price he is stuck paying for the ‘gifts’ of the Pit, that second chance.....when he never asked to pay it in the first place. 
And I don’t actually think I’m the only one who has that problem, I think most people just don’t spell it out to that degree....because what I mean there is......the Pit’s effects ever since Jason’s return like....aren’t viewed in the context of being a morality narrative anymore. At least not in regards to him. People rarely write the Pit as ‘corrupting’ Jason the way it was once suggested to have corrupted Ra’s, because like....Jason was a victim, not a person motivated by selfish desires for immortality. And people want him to be a hero (or at least an antihero) rather than the villain that DC has at times tried to make him instead....and I think even unconsciously, we’re all aware that it doesn’t really work to have a character like that ‘forced’ into a villainous role because of exposure to a mystical corrupting agent they never asked to be exposed to.
SO. The end result of THAT is that.....the way people write about the Pit has shifted, both in canon and fandom. And now the Pit’s effects are viewed less as a cautionary morality fable and more as like...a heightened form of PTSD, a metaphor for the extreme and beyond-imagining trauma of being brutally killed and brought back to life again.
And that is where things get murky for me again, because you end up with an unintentionally confused/skewed narrative where writers and readers often aren’t even sure themselves if they’re writing this mystical McGuffin as being an external force of corruption that makes people ‘worse versions of themselves’ OR whether its a PTSD/trauma metaphor that highlights the hurt/confusion/paranoia/intensity of tangled emotions that survivors of great traumas experience. And the problem there is, without actually intending to....I think you inevitably end up dipping into a lot of really problematic ableist ideas that reinforce some pretty negative impressions of mental illness, bad survivors and recovery in general.
Oops. Tangents happened again, huh. Oh well. Hope your answers are in there along with everything else I stuffed that response full of, lol!
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ahumansvoid · 4 years
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DC comic WIP folder
I called this DC Comic, but it’s Batman.
These are all 100% based on Batman/Batfam.
Well. Mostly Damian. I liked him as a character
Since this is all one fandom, I’ll put the title I have for the doc in bold before talking about the WIP.
Also a couple of these are both bullet-point outlines and written out stuff. So I’ll post a bit from each if possible.
Also. Warning for swearing. I swore a lot with these.
Who F*ckin Knows
Wonderful title by me. So this fic would’ve centered around Jason Todd, Stephanie Brown, and Damian Wayne. It was an AU where the three of them get sent to an alternate timeline in which none of them ever existed/interacted with Bruce (So Jason never stole Batman’s tires, Steph’s dad never became Cluemaster and she never became Spoiler. Damian straight up doesn’t exist) and the Batfam’s life is better for it.
Now this isn’t necessarily true, and it isn’t in this story. Because what actually happened was they were cursed to an alternate timeline of what they think the Batfam’s life would be like without them in it. And because (at least how I wrote them) these three have self-esteem issues and whatnot, on a subconscious level, they believe the Batfam would be better off without them being in it. So in this alternate timeline, the Batfam is better off without them.
So when the trio goes to this alternate timeline, they’re not together. Jason is with Dick which leads to this interaction I’ve outlined:
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And really the only bit I have written is later on, when in this world, Jason, Damian and Stephanie get arrested and Damian’s parentage is discovered. Now because they believe Bruce is better off without them, they haven’t contacted him at all. So this is kind of the last thing they want and also Damian doesn’t want to risk getting separated from Jason and Stephanie. Also I made social services the enemy which, considering Damian’s 13 and neither Steph or Jay have any legal claim to him, is valid. They want to keep Damian and Social Services could take him away.
Still, this lady I wrote is not nice.
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This is Bruce’s POV. I have this outlined a lot, but not much written. And it would be a large undertaking to write this out. Especially as I’m not that into Batman anymore.
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A Damian-is-raised-by-Selena-instead-of-Bruce AU.
That’s it.
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This is the only thing in this file.
??? Idk. 
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What the fuck. Uh. I dont- this is aptly named? Because i don’t fucking know what shit I was doing.
So this AU starts out with Damian deciding rather than go to Bruce when Ra’s wants his body, he hides on his own because obviously Ra’s would go to Bruce because Bruce is Damian’s dad and that’s the obvious hiding place. So, Damian strikes out on his own.
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That’s normal. I could maybe write something with that.
Then I get into Damian being a stripper?!?!? He’s an adult at the time. Chill. But stil ????? I- I don’t know.
Also. Damian steals from Jason. Which is fun?
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Also. There’s nothing wrong with writing this. I’m sure I could go find a dozen fics on this premise or similar, I have no problem with Damian being a stripper or whatever. 
My problem is that sixteen (maybe?) year old me thought I could write this??? I can’t write this now and I have no idea what mini me was thinking. This isn’t. No. This isn’t something I can really write. I wouldn’t try because either I would fail or I wouldn’t be able to do it justice. 
Also it is very clear I wrote this before I fully understood bullet points on google docs and shortcuts and it bugs me.
Hopefully this will be fluffy
So this AU is one where Robin War never happens. But Duke’s parents are still jokerized or whatever and he’s taken into foster care where they want him to do trauma counselling. Coincidentally, the trauma counseller he goes to (group sessions because why not) is also running a drug ring. So Damian is sent in by a superhero team (I don’t think I specify or I’m jumping over it when I read) to infiltrate and find the drug ring leader and whatnot.
He succeeds, but Alfred keeps driving him to the Trauma Counselling sessions so Damian keeps going to them and befriending Duke.There are also some other friends (OCs) and what ends up happening is a) this friend group hangs out outside of the group therapy sessions and b) Damian gets a crush on Duke.
Hijinx and whatnot ensue. Including:
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Kind of just a simple little AU I never bothered to finish. I just lost inspo I guess.
Damian Wayne Coraline AU
Not really. Im reasonably sure this was inspired by something but I can’t remember at the moment. Not Coraline. Anywho, so in this au, Damian finds a mirror verse of his family essentially. Honestly I don’t know where I was going with this and I can’t really figure it out.
But have this funny excerpt:
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Don’t really know much about this WIP.
“Why do I need to cover for you
Back to first sentence of the fic being the title. So, I have this written without any outline. But I still remember where I’m going with this fic despite being nowhere near it. So, Damian is 17, soon to be 18 (like a week or two out), per tradition he gets into a big fight with Bruce, he leaves, he talks to Dick. Blah blah. Damian ends up covering for Dick as Nightwing while Dick covers for Bruce as Batman. 
During this time they fight a witch/warlock/random magic user #5 who makes all the adults children.
Damian isn’t technically an adult. But they were fighting this magic user with Jason, Tim, Dick and Damian. So now Damian gets to deal with a bunch of batfam children and I don’t remember if I had a plan after that. I just remember almost adult Damian dealing with kid Jason, Tim and Dick.
This is as far as I got before I stopped (idky)
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So this is literally Dick giving Damian a pep talk after Damian comes to him after his fight with Bruce. So I did not get far with this fic. And there is literally no indication on the doc what direction I intend to go with this. Which is interesting.
And that’s it for the DC comic folder. Fun. I’m sad and tired now. Also it’s 3 am. So Imma go to bed and finish this WIP show tomorrow. Good night!
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peachtune · 5 years
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Ramble.02 Various Thoughts / HCs on the Awakening Kids
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     This is sort of a  CONTINUATION  of stuff that I wanted to put in my last post but in doing so would detract from the original point of it. So instead let’s just build upon it here !
          So everything said previously is why I write Severa to be so strong because she  IS---- therefore it’s not safe to assume that just anyone can best her. Rather, you should expect the likelihood of getting your ass handed to you. Laslow / Inigo is ‘ kind enough ’ to toy with his opponent, but Luna / Severa is  NOT. And literally the only ‘ equal ’ sparring partners for the Awakening Trio in Fates is each other because they can  EXCLUSIVELY  go all out against one another and it’s a scary sight. It’s even Luna herself who scolds Laslow on how he could / can do better !! I really don’t think many people give her enough credit for her strength. The boys  SURE  know she’s not to be taken lightly !
     And what I said about the strength of the Risen in my last post is why I’ve made her so headstrong when it comes to training even if in game she  HATES  to sweat and whatnot. Her disliking of sweating doesn’t affect the importance and necessity of staying in good form. She knows training is not something to  SHIRK  on because the timeline in which they all came from literally meant death if you slacked the tiniest bit ! I  FIRMLY  believe several if not all of the kids know how to use  MORE  than one weapon-- they might be proficient in one or two primarily but it’s likely they could pick up anything off the ground and fight with it because that’s what had to be done before. Learn and fight or die due to negligence. That’s why no matter what class, I sometimes hint that Severa is capable of wielding  MOST  things. The only thing she’s not so trained with is a bow and magic, but she’s been learning the latter.
          This also feeds into why I hc that in Awakening, the kids were likely allowed to lead squadrons on occasion, because they  CERTAINLY  had the strength for it. And even if they’re not Morgan or Robin level tacticians, they were good enough to last years on their own against the Risen. In Fates, the trio is especially important in the army with high leadership roles. They’re not normal soldiers to be sent on just any escapade and it’s not  JUST  because they’re under direct command of the royals. But in both Awakening and in Fates there’s also my hc that they oversaw the training of new recruits because why wouldn’t you trust them with that ? Contrarily, it might be  FOOLISH  if you didn’t. Not to mention how being pulled into new worlds only makes them stronger. Being exposed to new fighting styles just allows them to  GROW  and develop more of their own and once they’re used to it themselves, their enemy is still left scrambling because their techniques  CAN’T  be found elsewhere to study and learn from.
     And can I just address how used to death these kids are ? They grew up with it. Their entire world was  RUINS  and turned into a hellscape. They saw people die everyday and come right back only to have to kill them themselves this time. There’s so many they probably didn’t even get to give proper burials. They’ve witnessed so many  HORRORS  that likely just can’t compare to what they see anywhere else.
          Another thought is that while Awakening ends happily, it’s really not happy for the kids ? Now they exist in a world where their parents aren’t  REALLY  their parents and will go on to raise different versions of themselves even if under new names. It’ll still be them and that kid will still look like them in structure no matter  HOW  they style themselves or their hair. At the same time, sure, these are past versions of the people that raised them, but I can’t be convinced that they still aren’t different and  DOUBLY  made different after meeting their future kids. They didn’t undergo the changes that led to whatever they did in the future. For example, Cordelia can only  GUESS  that the person she was fighting to protect everyday was Severa and not Chrom. It’s why Tharja can’t comprehend  WHY  she would have ever put Noire through what she did. They’re still strangers despite being their parents.
     Anyway this is a  LONG  enough post already and I could probably go on because I really don’t shut up about these kids. But for the sake of anyone actually reading this. Yeah lmao.
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