#fuck edelgard and dimitri having to kill eachother

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Fuck it we ball, golden route were they all team up and rule over Fódlan together. Canon won’t let them be happy and alive together so I have to do it (+ soldier,poet,king reference since it’s literally them)

#dimitri and claude figure out that twsitd are behind all the bads things that have happened in their country and seek out eidie to kick ass #they propably dismantle the chruch or at least seperate the church from state while they’re at it lol #Hanneman cures edie of her crests so shes able to live a long life #or not idk i made two versions bc of that #together they open up fodlans boarders and start building relations with their neighboring countries #they form and alliens between their nations and become the high lords of fodlan #byleth is there #note to self: draw byleth next #yeah idk power of friendship or something #my mental health is relain to their well being #fuck edelgard and dimitri having to kill eachother #art #digital art #my art #fanart #digital illustration #fe3h #fire emblem 3 houses #fire emblem #fire emblem three houses #fe3h dimitri #dimitri alexandre blaiddyd #fe3h edelgard #edelgard von fresberg #fe3h claude #claude von reigan #fe3h au #fe3h golden route au

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 I'M SORRY FOR WORDING IT LIKE THAT I played the Golden Deers, some of my favorite queer ship are with Deers and some of my favorite character are among the deers! My favorite deer ship is probably Leonie x Lysithea ( She litteraly say Leonie would make an incredible partner! Why do their support stop at B again?? ) and my otp is Hilda x Edelgard ( do not judge me I have REASONS ). And also, one of my favorite queer headcanon is trans aro-ace Claude! So I genuinely love the Deers as queers!

However, for me the deer and the diverse queer content around them is heavily a fandom thing. When I say the deer are "too straight for me", I meant it for the game directly. Like you have the Black Eagles where not only litteraly every characters is canon queer/has heavily subtext but has also its whole narrative drenched in queer metaphor! You have the Blue Lions where, while there's less "canon queer", you litteraly cannot say most of its members are straight with how heavy the subtext that's barely even subtext anymore is: there's 0 straight explanation for Felix crying more at Dimitri death than his wife, or him dying the same day as Sylvain because they can't live without each other.

But for the Deers... You have Hilda/Marianne and Claude/Lorenz as the most popular one but while their relationship are so fascinating, when you only look only at the game, they feel too platonic? Especially compared to a Dedue/Dimitri ( like a family in private. took up a post at his grave for the most of his days. BURIED BESIDE EACHOTHER ) or a Ferdinand/Hubert ( rare A+ support, with blushing, their own little surname, Ferdinand/Edelgard support changing just to mention Ferdinand drinking coffee ). Otherwise you have Leonie/Lysithea which stop at B. You have Raphael/Ignatz where they decided to just push the relationship to make their ending all about Ignatz with his sister.

Like really, the Deers manage to have less in game queer moment than the Church of Seiros, Rhea aside, of all things! We were so robbed! The rainbow house deserve better. I'm a lesbian and after all my playthrough Verdant Winds was my only route where I had to marry a man, all I wanted was a lavender wedding with Claude while I have a passionate romance with Leonie :(

To sum up: Lysithea and Leonie should kiss, Intelligent Systems are fucking cowards 

For the fandom I'll have to disagree, I think the Deers have a lot a queer content and it's amazing :] My only thing might be how Claude has become the first character you think of when talking about bi fe3h character which is kinda telling how wlw are dismissed in the general fandom, but its better than some people insisting he's totally straigh so eh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

( Also I big agree on Hilda support being gem, she's such a great character and one that's much more complex than given credit for!! )

Oh and I think I disagree with Deers being the more family found-esq ( saying that bc it's a great subject of I discussion and I want to hear more about your opinion on the matter )

The Lions is the family where they all stick together through thick and thin, following Dimitri to hell and back, but their relationship are complexe and not always healthy ( mostly at the beginning with like Dimitri & Felix or Ingrid & Sylvain ).

The Eagles are the found family where a lot of them bitch about each other at first but they end up with deep relationship where they take care for each other and stand together against the world, even sticking together during the time skip ( also because they kinda all killed each other dad ).

The Deers are for me more like an actual close group of friend: their life are not going to revolve around each other like it does with the other houses, but they won't hesitate to come for that 5 years reunion to see the other. It's kinda like you say they're so normal in a good way! They tease each other but they don't hate each other in the way of a Dimitri/Felix, a Caspar/Petra, a Ferdinand/Hubert ( except for Lorenz but like, it's Lorenz ). They won't kill the other dad, but they'll sure as hell support each other like Lorenz and Ignatz or Marianne and Raphael. They might not start a revolution together but they will listen to the other even when it’s total heresy ( Leonie & Claude, such an incredible support :’) ) and help the other to reach their goal… I do agree with you it’s linked to not knowing each other before, but on that, isn’t knowing each other before more of a Lion thing than not knowing being a Deer thing? I don’t know, the BE are kind of a middle ground.

( Sorry for my ramblings- It's so fun talking about the deers )

AA anon thank you for the long ask!! Okay I'm gonna take this point by point under the readmore!

"My favorite deer ship s probably Leonie x Lysithea ( She litteraly say Leonie would make an incredible partner! Why do their support stop at B again?? )"

INCREDIBLY fair and based of you, lol, I read Lysithea as gay and it's 100% because of the support conversations she has with Leonie and Hilda (which to me implies an ADORABLE crush--Lysithea seems to genuinely respect and admire Hilda which is not something you'd expect from like, a surface level reading of their characters).

I'm gonna admit my own bias here in terms of canon text endings--my favorite Lysithea ending is her paired ending with Lorenz. It really reads like a queer platonic relationship to me--I don't really get romantic vibes from either of them (gay as they are) towards each other, but the commitment and care they have for each other genuinely warms my heart. Especially the fact that like, Lorenz is SO determined to ensure Lysithea takes care of herself and the ending doesn't really imply that she dies young (only that her health is delicate/poor) in comparison to others, and she and her family get to live the quiet life they want. Of course, as an aro/ace disabled person, I think it probably hits differently for me than people who aren't just because of the fact that after the most recent time I saw their support chain/got their ending I teared up a bit (and also why I'm now adoring your trans-aro-ace Claude).

ANYWAYS, I agree IS are cowards and that's why Edelgard is the only Lord who can romance both male/female Byleth.

"For the fandom I'll have to disagree, I think the Deers have a lot a queer content and it's amazing :]"

I probably didn't word what I meant completely lol correctly-- it's not that the Deer don't have a lot of queer content, it's just that overall, they have less content in general made for them then the Black Eagles and Blue Lions.

I do ALSO love so much of the queer content made for the Deers! The Three Houses fandom is amazing.

"My only thing might be how Claude has become the first character you think of when talking about bi fe3h character which is kinda telling how wlw are dismissed in the general fandom, but its better than some people insisting he's totally straight so eh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"

Okay, so I was kind of dancing around saying this to your last ask but you hit the nail on the head lol. I genuinely think the reason why the Deer might come across as less queer is because the "main ship" for them, so to speak, is the WLW pairing Hilda/Marianne.

Ironically when I think about bi fe3h characters my first thought is consistently Lindhardt?

"Oh and I think I disagree with Deers being the more family found-esq ( saying that bc it's a great subject of I discussion and I want to hear more about your opinion on the matter )

The Lions is the family where they all stick together through thick and thin, following Dimitri to hell and back, but their relationship are complexe and not always healthy ( mostly at the beginning with like Dimitri & Felix or Ingrid & Sylvain ).

The Eagles are the found family where a lot of them bitch about each other at first but they end up with deep relationship where they take care for each other and stand together against the world, even sticking together during the time skip ( also because they kinda all killed each other dad )."

Okay so I definitely agree with you that they're all found family, explicitly in the text lol. What I meant in my statement that they're the most found-family-esq is that you get to see the development of ALL their relationships and becoming that family together on screen.

The Lions (a mess, and I love them), are pretty heavily involved with each other at the beginning of the game. A lot of the intrigue with them is the fact that they all have backstory stuff going on with each other (save for Ashe, I think, but we kill his dad on screen so). Mercedes and Annette went to Sorcery School together, Felix/Sylvain/Dimitri/Ingrid are all childhood friends with intense complications, and the trauma and deliberate kindness that brought together Dimitri and Dedue makes me emotional.

Similarly to them, the Black Eagles all have a history with each other (save for Dorothea) as well. There's the insane and amazing devotion between Edelgard and Hubert, Lindhardt and Caspar's childhood friendship, the onesided rivalry going on between Ferdinand and Edelgard since they were kids and Hubert's judgement of Ferdinand for it. Petra and Bernadetta, technically don't have pre-established relationships with the others, but in ways that are deliberately intense. Petra is blatantly a political hostage in the Academy Era in a way that really informs her relationship with Edelgard and Hubert even before they get to know her. Additionally Bernadetta's isolation creates a kind of infamy between her and the other nobles.

The Golden Deer, on the other hand, don't really have as many intense bonds going in (and thus, in my opinion, makes it easier for Byleth to integrate amongst them as an eventual equal). There's the preestablished dynamic of Lorenz being suspicious of and wanting to best Claude, but it's a recently developed dynamic, as Claude only appeared a year ago. This would be a bigger personal issue if he was leading a house like the Blue Lions or the Black Eagles (noble heavy as they are), but it's barely an issue in the Deer and not just because of the commoners. Hilda, Lorenz, Lysithea, and Marianne are not close. In all his supports with the three of them, Lorenz is the one reaching out because of his belief that their time in the Academy should be used to form better and closer connections with other nobles. There is nothing to imply that there was any substance to their pre-existing relationships. The only two who have anything to their relationship before the game starts, are Raph and Iganatz, who haven't spoken in years, mostly due to guilt on Ignatz's behalf for what happened to Raphael's family.

So as a result, you get to see the bonds being formed and deepened with the Golden Deer from scrap. Obviously some development happens off screen during the time skip, but other than that the Deer's found family forms and develops completely on screen, which is why I think it's the most found family-esq of the three.

In fact, it's a huge part of Claude's story. It's something you don't really notice in his route, but it's really clear when you don't pick him. While Edelgard and Dimitri kind of can't function and literally can't without Byleth's support, Claude has probably the highest survivability rate when you don't choose him of any character save technically Marianne. He survives the Blue Lions route, the Black Eagles route (if you spare him), and is implied to have survived the Silver Snow route. When he doesn't have Byleth, he still survives, so not choosing him isn't as dramatic. But it's easy to see that without Byleth as a teacher, he doesn't open up enough to the Deer. Dimitri and Edelgard have assured loyalty from their houses (even Ferdie and Felix) becuase of these pre-established relationships and positions, but Claude has to earn it. That's why Hilda, despite being his vassal, is recruit-able so long as you don't choose Black Eagles (the only route where he can die). Without Byleth, although the Deer do grow close, they don't do it as quick or as closely as they do with the Professor. Claude is a character who's never been able to truly rely on others, even if they care about him, and being able to rely on Byleth allows him to open up and rely on the Deer and truly trust them. I mean, Claude's two most relied upon people in the Deer (as seen in 3Hopes when he goes against Dimitri) are Hilda and Lorenz. I don't think people talk enough about how insane it is that Claude trusts Hilda Goneril with his life, considering he's an Alymran prince.

That's also why I think the Deer are so good for Byleth. I don't think any of the other route's are bad for Byleth at all, but I think the deer provide something to Byleth that neither the Lions or the Eagles can bring to her: a single of equivalency. Byleth is only slightly older than her students in the Academy Era and is in fact younger than most of them in the War Era, and yet it's only really with the Deer that she feels like she's amongst peers (whether it be because of the commoner/noble ratio or that she's as much of a stranger to them as they are to each other.) I mean, Claude is literally the only character who doesn't call refer to her by her Profession.

Anyways, TLDR: I think they're the most found family because a huge part of the Golden Deer route is them getting to know and love each other from scratch, and being a found family is a much bigger thematic aspect for them then it is for the other two houses.

"However, for me the deer and the diverse queer content around them is heavily a fandom thing. When I say the deer are "too straight for me", I meant it for the game directly. Like you have the Black Eagles where not only litteraly every characters is canon queer/has heavily subtext but has also its whole narrative drenched in queer metaphor! You have the Blue Lions where, while there's less "canon queer", you litteraly cannot say most of its members are straight with how heavy the subtext that's barely even subtext anymore is: there's 0 straight explanation for Felix crying more at Dimitri death than his wife, or him dying the same day as Sylvain because they can't live without each other."

"But for the Deers… You have Hilda/Marianne and Claude/Lorenz as the most popular one but while their relationship are so fascinating, when you only look only at the game, they feel too platonic? Especially compared to a Dedue/Dimitri ( like a family in private. took up a post at his grave for the most of his days. BURIED BESIDE EACHOTHER ) or a Ferdinand/Hubert ( rare A+ support, with blushing, their own little surname, Ferdinand/Edelgard support changing just to mention Ferdinand drinking coffee ). Otherwise you have Leonie/Lysithea which stop at B. You have Raphael/Ignatz where they decided to just push the relationship to make their ending all about Ignatz with his sister."

Okay, so I definitely agree with you that those things are canon queer and subtext, and that it's a shame they don't push the Raphael/Ignatz stuff and focus on Ignatz and Raph's sister (which is admittedly adorable to me).

Again, I'm aro/ace, so for me, queerness doesn't necessarily require romance as a prerequisite? Which is why I like Lorenz and Lysithea's ending, lol.

Hilda/Marianne in no way reads platonic to me, so I really disagree with you there. Hilda treats Marianne completely differently to how she treats everyone else in game. Their support chain is focused on how Hilda, who manipulates her way out of doing anything she doesn't want to, chooses to consistently over and over again do things for Marianne that she can't, and refuses to let Marianne feel bad over it. She leverages this into Marianne buying her pastries and them having a lunch date together. Their A support consists of Marianne questioning their regular dynamic of doing this and Hilda reassuring that she enjoys it so much she'd feel odd if it changed. They compliment each other to the point where Hilda starts to get a little flustered, and Hilda's even able to poke fun a little at Marianne and get Marianne to poke fun at her back. Marianne laughs at Hilda, and Hilda textually thinks it's adorable and can't even get mad at it because it's so cute. Marianne seems so genuinely happy and herself (even in negative ways!) with Hilda, and can rely on her in a way that doesn't make her feel inadequate or a burden.

I can understand as being able to view Claude/Lorenz as platonic, especially since I will never diverge from my Claude/Byleth endings, but I think they can also still be read pretty textually clear and potentially romantic. Part of this is Lorenz, who just, is very clearly gay to me? But again, part of this is the fact that a huge part of the Lorenz/Claude dynamic is them being viewed textually as equals, which is something that will and can never happen with Edelgard/Dimitri and their rival characters. Their support chain is all about getting to know and respect each other as they grow to care for one another, and while it isn't explicitly as romantic as Marianne/Hilda, I think their paired ending really speaks a lot for itself, in that Claude trusts Lorenz to be Fodlan's face of diplomacy towards Almyra. He trusts Lorenz to help him achieve his dream in the most direct way possible, something I think you can absolutely compare to his relationship with Byleth in their S-Support. Additionally about their support chain, their A-support really is about affirming to the player how close they've become, how fond they are of each other, and how neither of them can imagine the future of Fodlan without the other one in it. While there isn't a lot of direct text between Claude/Lorenz, I think there is absolutely enough subtext that you could read them romantically, especially from Lorenz's POV. The hard thing with this game is that each character needs to be able to be paired with Byleth, so they can never be textually obviously/blatantly in love with another character save for Byleth until their paired ending, and I think that absolutely holds doubly true for Lord characters, which is why I think Claude/Lorenz relies more on subtext.

I do think it's a shame that Lysithea doesn't have any A supports with women in her own house. Leonie like you mentioned is an adorable one, and I think Lysithea has a huge crush on Hilda in the ones with her, and there is definite potential in the one she has with Marianne (which in my opinion is a kinder, more gentle version of her supports with Ignatz).

I also think there's a few other support chains where there is a queer romance blossoming, they just don't get the chance to have an ending. A big one for me, personally, that I think deserved more, is Ignatz and Lorenz. I also think Leonie and Marianne's support chain was very cute, and deserved an A.

This is kind of what I was saying when I answered your last ask, I think, wherein the Deer have queer romance, but because the don't have a big blow up mlm ship (Claude is more often shipped with Dimitri + a lot of people aren't as fond of Lorenz as I think they should be lol), they kind of get sidelined as their big queer ship is WLW. And unfortunately in most fandoms, wlw ships are rarely as popular or have as much pushing force.

And also, I think, that the deer are queer without having as much romance. Their romantic pairings are far less set in store then the other two houses, I think, and part of that is because a lot of their endings read really queer platonic to me. Plus, a lot of the heavy romance lifting in the explicit text for a lot of supports tends to happen in the A/A+ region, and a several of the wlw/mlm golden deer pairings only go to B, which I think is a shame and forces them to rely more on subtext.

Additionally, because they're not the revolutionary or chivalry aligned House, a lot of their endings aren't written as...dramatically? Like I adore Felix/Sylvain to death (I have a print of them hanging next to my Claude one lol), but their childhood promise is very much the product of living in Faergus, similarly to how Hubert and Ferdinand's relationship is defined by them living in the Empire. I think because the Alliance politics are far less dramatic (or are far more dramatic in a visibly different way) the subtext for Claude and Lorenz's Romeo/Juliet for politics thing doesn't come across as huge as two characters who promised to die with each other as kids and keep it (insane I love them).

That's why in my original post I talk about loving how normal the Deer are, and I think ultimately a part of that comes from their setting: the Alliance. In my first play through, I specifically chose having my loyalties lie (in the initial meeting with the Lords) with the Alliance, because to me, someone who had no real context for the game, the Alliance was the closest thing to a democracy from what little we'd hard of each nation. Politics informs almost every aspect of the Golden Deer; sure it's played for angst and importance in the other two routes (Duscur/Sylvain's Crest Complex/Felix's problem with the chivalry system for the Blue Lions--with the latter two never being things that are textually resolved in the Kingdom's government--and Enbarr/those who Slither in the Dark for the Black Eagles), but Claude actually has to balance what other lords want in the War phase, and it's his ability to be so good at politicking that enables the Alliance to consistently remain neutral in the war. So a lot of the subtext stuff comes to fruition through the realm of politics in a way it doesn't entirely through the other two, if that makes sense. It's a huge gesture of love that Claude can trust Lorenz with his dream.

"The Deers are for me more like an actual close group of friend: their life are not going to revolve around each other like it does with the other houses, but they won't hesitate to come for that 5 years reunion to see the other. It's kinda like you say they're so normal in a good way! They tease each other but they don't hate each other in the way of a Dimitri/Felix, a Caspar/Petra, a Ferdinand/Hubert ( except for Lorenz but like, it's Lorenz ). They won't kill the other dad, but they'll sure as hell support each other like Lorenz and Ignatz or Marianne and Raphael. They might not start a revolution together but they will listen to the other even when it’s total heresy ( Leonie & Claude, such an incredible support :’) ) and help the other to reach their goal… I do agree with you it’s linked to not knowing each other before, but on that, isn’t knowing each other before more of a Lion thing than not knowing being a Deer thing? I don’t know, the BE are kind of a middle ground."

I both agree and disagree with what you've said here!

I think it's true, that in any route where you don't choose Byleth, the Deer are textually viewed much more as just close friends rather then found family, whereas I think if you chose their route they end up much closer (as I said above). I think the Black Eagles and Blue Lions have their lives, by nature, revolve around each other since they're literally all Nobles and thus part of the governning system of this world (with the exception of Dorothea). I think the Golden Deer have to make it a much more deliberate choice, and I do think it's something they do after the War in any route (assuming the majority of them have been allowed to live) because that sort of thing just forms a life long bond between people that's hard to shake without deliberate effort I can't imagine any of them truly wanting to put in.

They are normal! None of them hate each other! They don't have that sort of intensity, but they do have a lot of complexity that lends itself very well to found family. I think a big part of that complexity lends itself to the lack of killing (although I don't really think any of their parents deserve to be killed whether they've alive or dead?). The fact that Lorenz's dad has Claude's uncle killed (which when combined with Hilda, again, being a fucking Goneril is INSANE my man's two best friends are people who have reason to kill him for BOTH SIDES OF HIS ANCESTRY) and thus gets Raph's parents killed is something truly heartbreaking, and yet I think it's because there's no violence amongst each other or against the previous generation that characters like Claude (has had violence perpetuated against him for his heritage), Marianne (has had implied violence perpetuated against her for her crest), and Lysithea (has had violence perpetuated against her to get her second crest) are able to feel safe amongst the Deer. Violence is an intense choice, but I think lack of violence should also be viewed as something deliberate and chosen, esp. in the world of Three Houses. I mean, throughout Verdant Wind Claude is constantly complaining about the perpetuation of violence caused by the War! He's someone who deliberately chooses direct harm reduction. Although, to in fact speak of violence, I think it's absolutely insane that Hilda "I refuse to die for my friends" Goneril will willingly die for Claude "DO NOT DIE FOR MY SAKE FLEE PLEASE I'M BEGGING YOU RETREAT" von Riegan's sake.

I do think that the Golden Deer are the most similar to a modern queer friend group and thus would be the easiest to make a 1:1 comparison, but again the events of the game do kind of necessitate that they are found family because they go through a war together. Their group dynamics are probably the most influenced by Byleth (Dimitri and his relationships with others while "mad" of course, aside), and it's really hard to make generalizations about them because again, the fact that she is not there to facilitate these close bonds makes it a lot harder for them to be as close as they are before the war as they end up being, although even without Byleth I still think they're exceedingly close. But yes, I agree, they do not live in each other's pockets, which does not make them any less found family, but does, probably, make them healthier in modern context lol.

(As a side note about Byleth and the house leaders: I think what she visibly provides to Edelgard and Dimitri is a lot more obvious than what she provides to Claude. She helps the both of them in maintaining themselves and not loosing themselves to the burden of leadership and trauma. Claude, however, is a character who has been handling both of those things alone, and we are shown that he is capable of handling them alone without massive cracks appearing in Three Houses. Claude does not need Byleth to live, as the other two directly do. Byleth gives Claude someone consistent and trustworthy to rely on, which opens him up to being able to do it with the other members of his house far easier then he's able to otherwise.)

Anyways! I think the Golden Deer are very queer, just more subtextually so then the Black Eagles and Blue Lions. I personally view a lot of the straight endings, so to speak, as queerplatonic (again Lorenz/Lysithea and honestly Leonie/Ignatz). Romance is a pretty easy metric to view queer storytelling through, but I don't think I'd see Sylvain as any less of a queer character if he didn't have his paired ending with Felix because of how his story is written. In a similar way, I think characters like Ignatz (wanted to be a painter, but it's not what his family wants for him; yearns to be creative and is self conscious about people thinking it'll interfere in his duties and has to learn to accept himself and his true dreams) and Marianne (sees herself as a monster that other people won't accept if they knew the true her and what she's hiding) are also queer without needing to be in romances, which is why the fandom gets a lot out of them subtextually.

Acceptance, I think, can be viewed as a very queer theme, and I think it's a prominent one within the Deer.

#twila talks #the golden deer #fe3h #verdant wind #claude von riegan #hilda valentine goneril #lorenz hellman gloucester #marianne von edmund #ignatz victor #raphael kirsten #leonie pinelli #lysithea von ordelia #claurenz #marihilda #thank you again for the ask anon I really enjoy discussing this with you!! #I don't think we necessarily disagree so much as have different interpretations of the text and i've enjoyed hearing yours and sharing mine #we needed more wlw stuff in the golden deer supports!!! in the game!!! #everyone should be bisexual in fire emblem it's a dating sim first and sexy chess second skdfhskjdfh

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tysm for highlighting dimitri and claude's relationship... edelstans like to talk it down a lot (even accusing dimitri of severely reducing claude's forces during AM gronder when... edelgard was there too lol) and uplift edelgard and claude trusting eachother and it bugs me idk

Oh my fucking god I misread this as “accusing dimitri of seducing claude” and laughed my ass off, it’s fucking gone scoob I only have legs now

BUT ANYWAY I’ve also seen people trying to downplay Dimitri and Claude’s trust in each other. Claude is supposed to like Edelgard, not Dimitri! Dimitri bad and crazy, and Claude is good and would never associate himself with someone as unhinged as Dimitri willingly! Dimitri would drain Claude with his MI - just like he does with everyone he’s around! (yes I’ve seen this take... yikes)

Since Edelstans really don’t want to acknowledge how much Claude and Edelgard just deadass don’t like each other (JPN!Claude even straight up says so apparently, but even ENG!Edelgard makes it abundantly clear that she holds little to no respect for Claude whatsoever) the only way they can hype up their “relationship” is by downplaying the - imma straight up say it - objectively better one between Claude and Dimitri (platonically or not, if you’re a shipper or not). Dimitri and Claude’s ideals aren’t perfectly the same, but they are extremely compatible with each other (they both want to improve foreign relations and help the people). They’re the only lord matchup - and one of the few matchups period - where you canonically cannot have them kill each other; the most you get is defeat during the moment. The few times Dimitri criticizes Claude it’s always because he expected better from him, not because he felt him lacking in some way (*COUGHedelgardCOUGH*), and he praises Claude’s strategies and respects them as a formidable force to take seriously (Edelgard only does this before you fight Claude in CF). Claude, outside of CF, always tries to team up with Dimitri even when he sees Dimitri at his worst (hell, Claude fights by Dimitri’s side during the fall of Garreg Mach, when Dimitri is arguably at his most unstable).

I could go on, but I think my point’s been made; Dimitri and Claude trust and respect each other deeply, which is directly opposed to Edelgard. If Claude trusted Edelgard he would have teamed up with her during CF - period. There’s no explanation why he wouldn’t. If Claude wanted Rhea dead and didn’t like or trust Dimitri and trusted Edelgard so much while simultaneously not caring for the people of Fodlan (since actively joining the war loses his people the safety of neutrality) there would be absolutely no reason Claude couldn’t show some iota of support for Edelgard in CF, even if it was something as simple as letting her freely pass through his lands or something more covert such as letting her use his spies. He doesn’t. Because he doesn’t trust her.

#ask #anon #i didn't even like dmcl at first because I was sure it was another case of ''wow they sure are standing next to each other'' #but no these two are actually really compatible and get along great #but i think even as a non-shipper it's clear that they're really good friends #as opposed to Edelgard and Claude where they can't fucking stand each other like not even a little bit

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My LITTEL Silver Snow review! Some thoughts and comments about this route.

I finished Silver Snow a couple of days ago, and I have both good things and bad things to say about it (like with every route, honestly).

Overall, I felt like this was an okay route, with the best part of it being the possibility to finally get the whole picture of Byleth’s existence and birth. FINALLY you get the final answers about Jeralt, Byleth’s mom Sitri, Byleth, and Rhea’s plan. It felt good to know the truth, and finally have all the final pieces of the puzzle. 

I also liked getting more snippets of the Church ‘behind the scenes’, like discovering some more details about the organization, the Seiros cult and history, and especially discovering that Rhea binds all the members of the church with her blood... basically having the possibility to control them, giving what happens in the last fight. YIKESSS. Bad but interesting. 

It’s also cool that Rhea losing control at the end makes some of Byleth’s lines, such as ‘Promise me you’ll end me if I ever lose control of my humanity’, make sense! That CAN happen to people with the goddess blood inside of them, it seems.

Rhea is basically confirmed as a villain character, in my opinion, with the whole experiments with the crest stone on Sitri and Byleth (and... a dozen of other more experiments) and her controlling of the whole church with her blood. 

That said, I kinda like it! I like that Rhea is basically... given more history and explanation behind her reasoning, and that they went ‘there’ with her being basically a villain at this point. It kinda felt like the story went brutally honest in showing her in her true light, losing a bit of her ‘holy character’ protection we were shown before.

It’s really ironic how she’s confirmed as a villain in the CHURCH ROUTE, and I feel like this say a lot about her intentions as a character. It also feels fucked up that she calls Byleth ‘mother’ when she wakes up. Keep that shit to yourself Ma’am. (And this makes me really wonder what the fuck is up with her romance... you’re supposed to romance a lady that experimented on you and your mom, and only sees you as the contentitor of her mother? Really? Great... )

Aside from getting some insight on Rhea and Byleth’s past + Church shenanigans, I don’t really see anything else special about this route. 

I went into this thinking that maybe it would be less cruent than Crimson Flower, but in the end, Seteth makes even shittier decisions than Edelgard does, so at this point, I’m riding with CF at 100%. 

I’m referring especially to the nonchalant way Seteth basically decides to sacrifice both the Kingdom and Dimitri, and the Alliance as well. I get more into my outrage for that choice here if you’re interested in hearing the whole thing.

But basically, Seteth’s stupidity, or, more probably, interest in using Dimitri as a shield and bait for Edelgard to get him to weaken the Empire for him and do his dirty job for him (despite probably knowing the Kingdom and Alliance couldn’t win the whole fight on their own, since they BEGGED for the Church’s help) is really proof to me that he’s exactly the same as Rhea. So, willing to use others for their own gain, and let the Church have its ass covered by others, to avoid damage and danger. It really feels like they all need to protect the Church at all costs, but for what reason really? 

The Church has clearly shown to care about people, peace and things only if it benefits them, and things are done on their very peculiar terms. It doesn’t make sense to me why Seteth is willing to protect the Church with all his might, even sacrificing nonchalantly others, when the Church doesn’t do that much anyway. (And actually is shown to do more bad than good in some parts...) 

It really feels like Rhea and Seteth are really going on their own path that makes sense only to them. (But are still constantly trying to convince everyone that it’s the best path to take for everyone, mind you!)

From this point on, I was basically despising Seteth with all my being so it felt difficult to look at him in a different way the whole route. He’s supposed to be the ‘better alternative’ to Rhea but he’s pretty much the same as her, same debatable morals from the church, egoism, and some of the good old ‘holier than thou’ attitude I so much missed. 

Maybe I’m being a bit harsh with him, but since his choice before the battle of Gronder, as you can see, my opinion on him basically changed radically for the worse.

Another thing is also that, despite my critiques on Edelgard’s methods and all... it really feels bad to go against her and Hubert with the Black Eagle kids.

At first, again, I was convinced that this route would be less bloody and maybe make the lives of the Black Eagles kids better, but it the end, especially seeing how the elimination of the Empire, Edelgard and Hubert really takes a toll on them, I’m not convinced Silver Snow is the better choice for them anymore.

Probably the only one I can see having more freedom in this route is Petra, because of Brigid being able to get rid forever of the shadow of the Empire and not having to keep the ‘careful good relationship’ with them anymore. 

But even Ferdinand, Caspar and Bernadetta, characters I thought would fare better in Silver Snow, actually feel way happier and ‘developed’ in Crimson Flower. Not to mention that the way they comment on how bad it feels to kill Edelgard and Hubert literally broke my heart. After all, this really reminds me that these characters used to be kids, and close friends with eachother.

As much as I critique Edelgard’s methods, it’s clear that having the whole House together until the end it’s the best decision for everyone, and really feels right.

I probably appreciate Crimson Flower more, now that I see how the alternative, Silver Snow, is.

Especially because imagining a Fòdlan ruled by the Church.... is really a big no for me. The game has showed us countless times how secretive and shady the Church is, and given us MANY motives to not trust its intentions, so I don’t see why I should see the Church ruling Fòdlan as a good result.

I never liked the Church from the start tbh, so I was aware that me doing this route was basically only for completion and curiosity’s sake. (So my opinion might be a little bit biased) I’m glad I got to discover the whole puzzle behind Byleth’s birth and more about the Church/Rhea, but that’s basically it.

I don’t see Silver Snow as a good alternative to CF, on the contrary, it makes me appreciate the ‘extreme’ of Crimson Flower more. That route sure has its faults, but at least the message and intentions behind are way better and more honest than the Church’s will ever be. 

#a little silver snow review with my thoughts! #fe3h

[faerghusfour]

Okay this will be looong but I love to hear your opinions so!... 001 with fe3h!

okay WHEW .... this took very long and i’ve not gone into huge amount of detail because i really shld be doing work.......but thanks anon i love you

favourite character

 if it wasn’t blindingly obvious by now, dimitri alexandre blaiddyd

least favorite character:

GILBERT. all my homies hate gilbert. if someone could give me some convincing arguments towards *any* of his redeeming qualities, i’d genuinely be interested to hear them. because all i’m seeing is that he traumatised annette and dimitri. also he’s fuckin useless in the gautier inheritance battle. OH i hate m*klan g*utier too he makes me feel sick!!!!!!!

five favorite ships (canon or non-canon):

hubert and ferdinand, caspar and linhardt, sylvain and felix, cyril and lysithea and dorothea and ingrid!

character I find most attractive:

going to pull a wildcard here and absolutely say judith because she literally lives in my head rent free. please intsys let me s-support judith hero of daphnel. her voice....her face.........the way she bullies lorenz......i am thinking

character I would marry:

i’ve been sitting here zoning out thinking about this question and ???? i think  i’d have a successful marriage with and who i think i’d get on the best with would be sylvain, mercedes, ashe or linhardt in a marriage lmao. need someone who will put up with my dumb jokes 

character I would be best friends with:

please let me best friends with dorothea. that’s all i want. we both wear hats. we’d be killing it. also i would love to have alois in my life!!! i feel like we’d both complete eachother with our Strong Dumbass energy!!!

a random thought:

my head is empty no thoughts because i stayed up late watching the el*ction coverage and i’ve been watching lectures all day!! sad!! so all i can think of is that i have been thinking about writing this one dimitri/reader/felix love triangle slow burn fic for like.....3 weeks straight......

also working on a little sylvix number and by little i mean it is Very Long and I am Suffering

an unpopular opinion

everyone knows how much i fucking would die for cyril at this point, which seems to be v unpopular. i don’t know why because he’s literally the sweetest kid ever. fight me. i’m founding the cyril defence league

my canon OTP and my non-canon OTP:

this is way too controversial a topic to be asked about in the fe3h community so i’m going to just say caspar/linhardt for both of them depending on how you choose to interpret their paired ending. personally i see that there is Nothing Gayer than abandoning ur noble titles to go adventuring with the closest person in ur life but yet...people want to still insist it’s platonic...........get out of here

most badass character

gonna pick the Absolute Units from my playthroughs and say they are the most badass characters to me. shout out to lysithea, dedue, ingrid and petra.....love them all v much, thanks for carrying me xx

most epic villain:

i wouldn’t call her ‘epic’ but cornelia terrifies me, especially after learning about how awful she was to hapi. i definitely think she’s one of the nastier villains in the game! but all of the villains are really not epic gamers

pairing I am not a fan of:

i really don’t like hubert/edelgard, hilda/claude and sylvain/ingrid! sorry heterosexuals but i’m built different

character I feel the writers screwed up (in one way or another):

i think quite a lot of the crimson flower storylines were neglected, and the dialogue definitely seemed rushed and ill thought through. and i’ve absolutely talked about it before but they really missed a trick with yuri and ashe supports. 

favourite friendship

i really adore claude and edelgard’s friendships with their retainers! other honourable mentions go to lorenz and leonie, ingrid and ashe, dorothea and ferdinand!

character I most identify with:

i see a lot of dorothea in myself! but also probably linhardt too lmao. lazy ass bitch. need to stop napping

character I wish I could be

is there an option to say ‘none’ because honestly? name one character in fire emblem three houses who is having a good time. i dare you. 

#this was so long......all my followers u are saints for putting up with my infodumping #fe3h #ask #anon

[the-worst-fe-player]

If three houses is going to do a fates revelations they better make it super wholesome, sweet and basically a every one lives au that's also not canon. Like I want edelgard and dimitri having sibling interactions and all the houses leaders helping eachother as let be honest so many of the problems could have be solved so much quicker if they actually talked.

Claude: let's open the borders and stop having them be closed. And end racism as well

Dimitri and edelgard: yeah cool let's help

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Dimitri: hey so that tragedy sucks and like your my step sister so I will tell you about my battle with mental health

Edelgard: okay big sister giving some therapy time

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Edelgard: THE CREST ARE TO BLAME

Claude and dimitri: okay let's find a way to stop the problems crest cause that doesnt cause us to go into a 3 way war

Or even

Edelgard: fuck the Crest and hero relics how could you do this

Rhea: okay so listen here that the corpses of my family that was brutally slaughtered and all I want is my mother back.

Edelgard: oh shit really and same my family was killed for Crest

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Like but they do it in a way that's in character and still fills right. Also if anyone who wonders why I dont want this canon i love happy endings but like that fact theres no canon ending and that no ending is truly happy for everyone like edelgard and dimitri dying in Gd and edelgard dying and claude dream dying in bl and dimitri and sometimes claude dying in be makes everything so much more bitter sweet because your very likely going to have one ending you like more then the other but still care about the others.

Anyway sorry for any spelling or grammar mistakes this is just my rambling if you wanna add anything or tell me what you would want if they went with this rout please say ^_^

#fire emblem three houses #fire emblem three houses dlc #fire emblem spoilers #fire emblem three houses spoilers

[doctah-plagued]

uwu all the fe3h asks pls!!

• Hresvelg: Favorite lord character?

EDIE EDIE EDIE!!!! Claude is a big second, but goddamn is he too reckless.

• Blaiddyd: Most OP character?

Shamir. Shamir kills everything, hunters volley and her EARLY A tier bow skill is fucking dumb, Felix is my second pick cause Wo Dao + Fraldarius is MAD stupid. 

• Riegan: Favorite piece of Three Houses lore?

Mmmm. BIG BIG BIG Spoilers here but in BE Edie tells you to call her Ed, since thats what her family called her when she was little and that there was no one around anymore that still called her that and that she said you were like the last family she had. And at Dimitris fight... the last thing he calls Edelgard is Ed... And when you play BL you find out that they’re step siblings, and that the dagger she kills him with is the dagger he’s taunted about giving to a girl he liked, theres so much more to get into with this but it’s really dense with symbolism and meaning and god i love this game.

• Aegir: Favorite moments in the game?

Everytime there’s unique dialogue between units, the subtle dynamics of your actions really sink in in these routes and i genuinely adore it. I am the worst kind of scum, as Hubert once put it, as I always force units two fight when I know they’ll have something to say to eachother.

• Varley: Most emotional scene?

Mmmmm spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler                      The immaculate one’s demiseMmmmm spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler

• Hevring: Favorite magic based character?

Me :)

• Bergliez: Favorite physical based character?

Definitely Felix or Edelgard, they fuck shit up.

• Arnault: Favorite piece of music?

The Holy Tomb’s theme and the final stage themes for sure, they’re fantastic, the brass of the BE is for sure my #1 though.

• Goneril: Favorite route?

I 100% believe Edelgard’s is the best route. It’s quite literally the classist/religious revolt I admire, but that doesn’t mean the other routes are any lesser. They perfectly pick eachother apart and allign themselves in places that make an amazing moral and ethic conflict. Peace only feels so far away when you see what everyone strives for.

• Gautier: Favorite supports?

Hubert and Bernadetta is honestly my favourite... that’s the only time I’ve ever actually lold over something. The rest can go home.

• Vestra: Most difficult chapters?

BE 17 was the hardest because I skipped auxillary battles and ruined my units chances and im so mad.

• Bartels: Favorite boss character?

Well.. there’s one I heard that’s a boss... but I’m not saying until then.

• Fraldarius: Units you used the most?

Linhardt’s the best healer don’t @ me

• Victor: Units you used the least?

I had no use for caspar or ferdinand so.. oops

• Galatea: Preferred classes to use?

I always run any swordie type because every goddamn avatar is a fucking swordie and im giving up on them 

• Kirsten: Favorite activities that happen around the monastery?

GET 👏 FLAYN 👏 THE 👏 FISH 👏 SHE 👏 CRAVES 👏

• Edmund: Hardest characters to recruit?

Fucking raphael, who the fuck goes into heavy armor with byleth, are you shitting me? are you fucking kidding me? fuck you, go fuck yourself, you’re stupid, fuck off.

• Molinaro: Favorite paralogue?

So far it’s been Bernadetta and Petra’s, their friendship is really cute and sweet and they vibe real fucking well.

• Pinelli: Least favorite paralogue?

I slept through Ingrid and Dorothea’s.

• Gloucester: Favorite timeskip character designs?

Linhardt and Hubert make me sweat, Dedue and Edelgard get me fucking pumped, and Felix and Lysithea’s are so aesthetic.

• Ubert: Favorite character to invite to teatime?

Claude won’t stop playing That’s What I Like when we’re hanging out and I don’t understand what he means by this.

• Macneary: Favorite paired endings?

BERNADETTA AND HUBERTS IS REALLY WHOLESOME AND FELIX AND LYSITHEAS GOT ME FUCKED UP

• Ordelia: Most unnerving moments in the game?

BE/BL Chapter 11 for equal reasons between two different characters.

• Dominic: Most wholesome moments in the game?

Shamir and Alois’ supports were really nice to watch, Linhardt and Petra’s were also really cute to watch. There’s a lot.

• Martritz: Favorite house?

MY LIFE FOR THE EMPIRE, MY SWORD FOR THE EMPRESS!

• Eisner: Any headcanons you have?

Shamir definitely has a lot of breakdowns/episodes no one gets to see, Alois absolutely has survivors guilt (more than one occasion), I really like to think that 3h takes the same universe as Genealogy for.. very obvious reasons, and not to mention the fact that Ferdinand looks EXACTLY like Ares, and not to mention Brigid and Dagda, but geologically it makes no sense... but it’s not impossible. Fates is the predecessor to the first game, and geologically... :)

#Long post. FE3H Spoilers #Very long post #I LOVE THIS GAME SO MUCH I LOVE FIRE EMBLEM #punkfey