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#fuck syco
can't believe we went from nicole erodaharold "can't say your name sorry" to "harry styles? too close to home dyaknowhatimean"
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so-idialed-9 · 1 year
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Holy fuck! Listen to Sherri go after Simon Cowell about lying about forming 1D. Start at 4:20.
If someone is ever doubting if Simon Cowell, Syco, and power players in the music industry in general really do all those bad things to exert absolute and total control over artists - just consider how for 12 years, Nicole, a powerful dealmaker in her own right, had to listen to Simon receive universal praise from everyone in the media and public for being the "genius" who created 1D...and never said a word.
Sherri: You know, this is what tripped me out, Nicole...I always thought that it was Simon Cowell who birthed One Direction...until I saw released footage from X Factor of YOU creating One Direction. [applause] Did y'all know that? Nicole Scherzinger!
Nicole: It's kind of crazy, Sherri. Honestly, I never thought this footage would see the light of day. I thought Simon burned it...And it's really cool that it came out....So I'm super proud I got to play a small part, or a big part -
Sherri: Girl, you played a big part! Simon Cowell, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. You're like Suzanne de Passe with the Jackson 5, Nicole. You put together One Freaking Direction....You got balls! Girl, better stop Simon. Every time I see Simon, I'm gonna be side-eyeing him - where's Nic's commission?
On 9/24/22, I listened to a Twitter Space with Katie Waissel (former X-Factor contestant on the same season with 1D). I transcribed the whole two-hour Space. Here's what Katie said about this:
"I’m not best friends with Nicole [but we’ve both been in the same circles, in the industry a long time, talking about they both recorded at the same time with Tricky Stewart in the Dream Studio in LA and would go out to eat together]. Because if you look at previous seasons of the X Factor – the Celebrity X Factor, for example – Tricky Stewart is in Cowell’s backyard....
It’s all just part of the bigger "firm” [Syco/Simon Cowell/etc.] if you know what I mean, and everybody’s intertwined.
 I’m not surprised it took a while for Nicole to speak on something like that, because it is scary to potentially rock any boats or go against what is expected of somebody. But what’s crazy is Nicole was a judge. So you’d think as a judge and employee, surely they would be somewhat exempt from that [Simon's total control]. But it goes to show that they’re not.
So the more we open these conversations in this way and somewhat normalize that so that people are less afraid to speak, myself included, that we can really really really make change."
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nekilarry · 1 year
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I'm cackling since yesterday when I saw people purchasing fitf and sending copies to syco and cowbell. Please, this fandom can be soooo iconic
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landhinlove · 2 years
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HAPPY LOUINDEPENDENCE DAY
2 years ago Louis announced he was leaving SYCO!!
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finexbright · 1 year
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#oooooh time for another controversial opinion#i get that babygate frustrates us and just puts us off and all that i get that i was there when it happened i'm still here i feel the same#but can we all just think. for once. that it's possible that it's harder for louis than it is for us?#like. we can ignore it and talk shit about but it's actually his fucking reality#and yeah he's rich and white and privileged but also like. this has so much to do about his mental health than all that#i get us being frustrated but i truly don't understand people getting entitled???? like you can't just end it with a click of a button#there's SO MUCH entangled in this#people act like louis CHOSE this like louis WANTED this and it's like. you're diminishing his brain and intellect to that#ending babygate will lead to a cascading domino effect of a lot of things. like it'll be the industry's biggest exposé#so yeah i just think that louis' doing his best and maneuvering it in ways that he thinks is wise#like you can't just be like ''so i'm not the father. also i'm gay. also fuck syco. fuck the industry'' without it literally shifting the#entire industry. like the entire band will be affected. even harry#so can we all just. for one second sit back and realise that LOUIS is the one who's actually dealing with this and we're just WATCHING it?#like this isn't our reality this isn't our life we don't know anything and can we at least give louis a bit more credit#than the rubbish narrative that ''he wants this'' like fuck's sake#babygate
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vlovebug · 2 months
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The vampire court sent a letter demanding to see him, so Val packed a bag for him and spelldon because he knew he would say that he's coming.
Once they get there Val decides to freak the hell out of the grinch ( stroker I think his name is) by ‘ swallowing a razer blade’
‘ master look.’ Val said in an entertained voice. Stroker turned his head to see Valentine put a bare razor blade on his tongue and then swallow it. Stroker stares at him in disbelief then rushes over, forcing the boy's mouth open to see no razorblade, he almost puts his hand down the idiot's throat. He needed his best solider undead and in perfect condition not sliced open from the inside out. But before he could do anything, valentine slips out his hold and grabs onto spelldons hand, who was also frozen in shock, and pulled him out the room and into an empty hallway.
He pulled spelldons hand under his chin, out enough for there to be enough room, and his neck flexes. He opens his mouth and the razor blade, now somehow covered, falls onto spelldons hand followed by a puddle of Sylvia. Spellsons face contours into disgust and disturbance, Val chuckles at this and walks away with a wave. After a moment of shock, his face turns to excitement and curiosity, running after Val asking how he did that and saying how cool that was.
Fin ig
( inspo from a dazi fic I read like two years ago that I stumbled on)
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shippingalongnicely · 2 years
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Crazy that there's gonna be people out there who *discover* him through all of this great new era of an actually functional PR team and go "Oh wow, he's already released a previous album? When did that happen?"
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twopoppies · 25 days
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You make some really good points here, especially about stepping away a bit and trying to just enjoy them as musicians. I’ve tried it with some success, but it’s not easy. I do honestly love both of their music and listen to it daily. Beyond that, it’s good to back off a bit for me.
I think for me something that has really become clear this last year, is that many fans feel entitled to what I would call Chapter 118 of the Harry/Louis WIP, and the reality is it’s just not coming. Now I love reading Larry fan fiction as much as the next person, but looking at it that way is so unfair to them. They have real lives and relationships and it’s not a story that needs to be tied up with a happily ever after. Lots of Larries - especially Twitter Larries - seem to use every interview or use of a primary color as a new chapter. I’ve never been a believer in the “mastermind” theory. And you are so right when you say the good vs evil is not really clear anymore. Yes, Syco and Cowell committed a lot of abuses, but those guys walked out of there with around $50M and tons of doors opened for them that wouldn’t have been possible without 1D , so the lines are blurred.
I think it’s pretty clear from Harry’s “corner of the internet ….it’s not real” interview to Louis latest, they don’t want our help in this - whatever “this” is anymore. It’s not underdogs vs overlords and I don’t like taking away Harry’s and Louis’s agency at this point.
It’s funny, because in 2016 if someone had said this is where you will be 8 years later I would have laughed in their face. But this is where we are and finding ways to deal with it and realizing we may never have more then we have today can be hard. Who knows what will happen in the future. Tomorrow the whole thing could blow wide open and lots of questions will get answered, but I just don’t think so and I’m ok with that. Sort of…. lol!
Anyway, thanks for the nice, calm commentary. I still enjoy reading it all!
Oh, I totally feel you on waiting for chapter 118. So many people treat their lives like an unfinished fic or a game to win. It’s super unhealthy for fans and I can’t imagine it feels good for Harry and Louis. And I very much agree that where we once were helpful, we may now be a hindrance at times. Saying that, I think it’s important to acknowledge that we’re not fucking making things up out of thin air and Harry/Louis/their teams often use Larry and larries for their benefit.
That makes it difficult to feel that they’re being completely honest when they say they don’t want a focus put on Larry.
Regardless, I’m tired of playing this game. I’d prefer to just chill in my own little circle and talk about Larry with my friends and go to concerts and have fun. But I don’t enjoy being treated like shit when it’s convenient and then sent flowers when I’m needed again, you know?
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sadaveniren · 1 year
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Hi! Why do you think BG is still going? I see a lot of people saying that it is an alternative to Louis having to have a beard but in my opinion it's much worse to use a child who has no say in the matter and will probably grow up damaged than a beard who has signed up for the job and is getting paid well. A child is not needed to maintain a closet. So with that in mind, why do you think Louis is stuck with Freddie?
Okay you are like the fourth or fifth anon who has insisted that a child is not a way to maintain a closet and while I... guess I get where you are coming from I feel like everyone asking this seems to be forgetting that this isn't just... a decision Louis made in 2022.
Here lemme just include a portion of this ask and then I'll ramble behind a cut
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That anon is 100% right btw. This decision was made in 2015 (tbh I think it was probably made in late 2014 but that's a whole separate talk) by music execs who wanted something flash in the pan for their boyband that was about to lose one of their most well known members (Zayn - and no this isn't blaming Zayn for BG I am lying the guilt very FIRMLY on the feet of Sony/Syco/Modest/Simon for this one). What happened after has just been... a shit show.
I don't think Louis knew there was going to be an actual fucking baby involved until October when Belfast happened and when the baby was born I don't think anyone knew how long this was supposed to last. They took almost two weeks to file the birth certificate. I think they were trying to figure out something else to go forward with it, and they were trying to muddle all of what was coming out so fandom didn't know top from bottom.
They ultimately decided to file the birth certificate and go the paternity route and everything was then meant to lead up to a paternity test denial. And then Jay got diagnosed with cancer in March 2016 and everything went off the rails.
I think decisions were made back in 2016 because of that so Louis could have the privacy he wanted for his mother and BG was put on the back burner of his mind. I think Louis did two years of hard pap work for BG before he decided "okay I'll move back to London and let this baby thing die off, I'll focus on making music I want to make and I'll figure it all out later." He did Xfactor like Simon wanted in 2018, he avoided LA like a plague, and he tried to get Walls made.
I think he might have felt he found a good balance ignoring everything by 2020 and not mentioning it and then Briana had to go and get fucking sued because she scammed some dude for fake boobs. I'm not expecting anyone to remember this but I went on a VERY LONG RANT about how dangerous of a position that put Louis and his business companies in because it involved taxes and the IRS. I would not be surprised that that moment basically made Louis go "okay well I can't just let things lie because then I'll have a bigger mess on my hand and stuff will creep up that I can't control that involves my closet" and so he has taken back over the stunt so he can have control over his closet.
Here's basically where I'm at and you can agree or disagree but this is what it is: Louis ending BG without coming out would be very difficult. Someone asked me "what do you mean babies are part of the closet" and it's kinda like... a baby is like the ultimate proof to the heterosexual world that you are heterosexual. You have had verifiable sex with the opposite sex. The nuance of how that all happens is lost in part of the bigger heterosexual picture. If you remove the baby from the equation you are now left with "Turns out Louis Tomlinson isn't the dad of the baby his fans never thought was his because they think he's gay and in a relationship with Harry Styles." And the fact that they have let it go on longer and longer just makes the fact you can't end it without forcing him out of the closet very difficult.
Especially if they don't have another section of the closet to fill that piece. AKA... he gets engaged or married to his long term girlfriend. Because what most people try to accomplish with their closets is that people don't go snooping around it. And losing BG would cause people to do that with Louis. "oh that baby was fake what about your relationship? oh you and this girlfriend have been together for how long and you guys never post anything normal or have gotten married/engaged? huh... weird"
And if he is trying to remove having a public girlfriend from his public persona, which I think he is, the only piece of the closet he has left is BG. Because if he removes BG he has to do SOMETHING to re-enforce the heterosexuality. He'd need to up the girlfriend side of things. He might need to get "engaged" so that way people don't go poking around at his closet.
TL;DR: BG is being used because it has been here. They missed the boat of ending the stunt at a time where it wouldn't have immediately outted Louis and now they have to use BG as part of his closet until Louis is able to come out. Which is his right to choose when he wants to come out. Does it suck for the kid? Verdicts out tbh but I'm not someone who thinks the kid really knows what's going on at this point outside of "oh hey I know this famous dude and go to Christmas with these people who are nice to me" and I also think when he's not with Louis - which is a lot - he's probably living his little six year old life with his mom and dad.
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hl-obsessed · 2 months
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Hii! So I have a question. I know what management did to Larry, where Larry weren’t allowed to touch after the gay nightclub performance. But what I don’t understand is why people say Louis signed a contract for love or to save his love?? (Which I presume love means definitely Harry) I want to know your theory.
Thanks!
Hi, love.
I can't actually say i know a lot about that. First thing i thought about was Louis staying with Syco after 1d went on hiatus so Harry could be free.
i can't recall what actually happened after cake performance and how it affected them. only thing my brain suggests me is 'fucked up, fucked up, we don't talk about that'.
So right here i'm gonna tag Sam @srldesigns6277 who i'm sure knows a whole lot more about all this and can tell both me a you a little bit more about this all. I am very politely asking oh our olders, please share your amazing knowledge with us uneducated.
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awesomefringey · 1 year
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Spoiler but minor one.
There is a part in the document when Louis is talking about how much he wanted the solo part in the second single and how much he practiced. When the final song came and he waited for the second verse for his part but that's when he got to know it had been given to Harry. I mean, it's so easy to project your anger at your partner during such times but it seems like he didn't. He instead took it as a reality check and decided what else he can do.
It's crazy how mature that is but also it's not easy. So incredibly difficult to exist in a world where you are either compared to your partner constantly or told you are not good enough compared to him. A relationship under such a lens is so difficult to maintain. I'm sure Harry did his part in making it work but it's so easy for Louis to just do destructive things but it's so obvious he chose the other way.
I mean, who the fuck wouldn't want to dedicate a thousand love songs to such a person. No wonder H is a clingy lover.
I'm certain Louis and Harry have been pitted against one another plenty of times. It's so easy to create conflict through competition. But instead Louis was proud of his boy and Harry would be super supportive about Louis' vocals like signaling to have his mic turned up.
I'm still not over that Harry shushed the crowd before Louis' solo of IICF, back in 2018, and how this gesture has become so much more meaningful. Especially since at the time, Louis was still fighting with Syco/Sony to get his music released.
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Did you hear Zayn’s interview? He pretty much confirmed Harry is a fucking liar and a gaslighter. He foiled old man queerbaiter’s solo plans. That’s why he haaates Zayn so much because he stole the spotlight on getting to be the first one to go solo. Harry was stringing the others along about the “break” until he secured the bag with the Azoffs. The others albeit trusted Harry reluctantly but Zayn knew better.
This makes me laugh at the fans who kept telling other fans to believe in Harry like he’s Jesus Christ or something because he was going to save the others from Syco and that’s why he would go on so many solo meetings with the Azoffs and Sony execs. The geniuses still couldn’t figure out that it was his plan all along to ditch Liam, Louis, and Niall. Not even when he cried and was all boohoo, he’s so grateful. He was bitching that he could now sing all the words of the entire song. He was being oppressed because giving Niall or Louis 3 words of a line was too much for his ego. 👀 🥴
the larries have essentially created harry's entire narrative and mythology.
the nice guy trying to save the band. the nice guy who couldn't hang out with the others because he was forced. the nice guy forced to date all these women and be perceived as a total fuckboy to help louis and the others. even now they act like he's oppressed for scheduling millions of tours and charging the fans thousands for it with his shitty ugly merch and products, when it's all his choice to milk them dry.
but with the larries creating his queer legacy and his non toxic masculinity idea of himself projected by them, he's been protected for years. the fans refused to believe he was ditching the band for years until he did. they claimed none of the band were signed with their labels and were all "independent" which was bullshit, to help protect harry.
all along he's been scamming them all, manipulating everyone and just trying to scheme his way into being a superstar. karma is justified in snatching off his hair follicles and giving him the face of a grandpa and the acting ability of his iCarly debut.
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so-idialed-9 · 2 years
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Fantastic article on the relationship between Matt Vines and Louis - some highlights!
On re educating people on who Louis is as a person and artist - I'd say the campaign is going really well!
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On campaigns being centered around fan experience. Love how the massive livestream numbers helped Louis break into bigger venues!
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Love this about the fans shocking promoters and venues with their enthusiasm for Louis - explains why he was always prepared with water or help when the venues weren't -
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Recognizing Louis' excellent leadership paet, present, future-
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On what deal he wanted, leaving Syco, and how he works with BMG -
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Love this artist/manager partnership and the respect from Matt seems genuine -
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alarrytale · 4 months
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H & L have power in this. They can refuse to release music. They have enough money to get lawyers and slip out of that contract. They are as much responsible as anyone enforcing this. And don’t tell me I can’t speak if “I don’t fully know what’s going on” because larries have been pointing the blame at whoever the fuck they want for years, y’all just have an issue when it makes larries look bad.
Hi, anon!
I will never tell anybody that they can't speak on an issue even if they don't have all the information. People form opinions and beliefs and make decisions with little or no information all the time. We might have different information or different ways of interpreting the information, and that will lead to different opinions and beliefs. You can believe whatever you want and i'm free to disagree with you. You're also allowed to disagree with me.
If you feel like H and L got options they're not exploring to end this, or there are actions that H and L can take to help this situation, but they're not doing it for some reason or other, then you're free to believe that. From what i've seen or learned about them and their situation through the years i've come to learn that they are between a rock and a hard place and they're trying to not make things worse, while resisting when they can. It's that god damn evil contract and Sony's absolute hatred of their relationship that's gotten them in this situation. They refuse to break up though, they'd both be miserable and all they've fought for over these years would be for nothing.
I can only speak for myself. I try to place the blame where it's deserved. The issue is that nobody involved here is all good and blameless, or all bad and evil. It's not black and white, so don't try to make it so. I've explained why Louis ending his career won't make any difference in regards to bg. Harry can't end his career because he's under contract with Sony. They'd sue him for all he's worth and then some if he refused to release music and Sony would win and he'd have to release it anyway. Other artists have tried that before. Sony could also retaliate by making another bg or creating a engagement narrative. If you think bg is bad, it probably could be a lot worse. They own both H and L's asses.
Also, Sony/Syco was smart when drawing up H and L's initial contracts (i've talked about all this before). It states that they have to pick their lawyers out of a goup chosen by Sony/Syco. We know all this from the leaked txf contract. So it was not a free choice. L is still with the same lawyer to this day and that leads me to believe he can't seek outside council without being in breach of contract or something. Or maybe i'm wrong and they've tried but found no way out. Best case scenario is that they've been building a case for years and it's about to blow up. I very much doubt that.
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landhinlove · 2 years
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To clown or not to clown that is the question
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Ok but seriously it’s not that far of a stretch because it’s true that SO many contestants that have come out with their stories. They have all, very publicly, outlined things that were said and done to them.
Not to mention everything Rebecca Ferguson has been pushing for and saying about XFactor. She has also mentioned a documentary before.
Some contestants that have come out with their stories are outlined in this post. But that’s definitely not all of them.
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uhhh his header being teenaged 1d is weird as hell…maybe im just traumatized from being around for so long, but if he’s in SC’s pocket i hope they don’t use louis for damage control to combat all the negative things that came out about SC in that xf offstage podcast or as a preemptive measure in the event of more negative press
Exactly like…
There are Louies who believe that Louis Tomlinson is under obligation to Simon Cowell for some reason, and that’s why
1. Louis did X Factor UK in 2018 instead of releasing his own album (and looking fucking sad announcing “My album won’t be delayed”… my ass)
2. Louis still uses Simon Jones as his fucking PR (this)
3. Louis has to keep Chris Frewin on his team, who is ex-Syco, and used Rusty Eslamifar and Jessie Martin— also ex-Syco (and besties with Eleanor Calder) as his first “managers.”
4. His first press interviews with any new release were always with Syco-related people like Dan Wootton and Gordon Smart… and now this Mark dude.
Makes you think.
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