#hazbin hotel theories

[turtleofthehollow]

If the Heavenly Virtues ever make an appearance in Hazbin Hotel, it’d be interesting if it turned out that Luicfer was once the Virtue of Humility before his fall

This is assuming the Sins aren’t all fallen angels as well, and were actually demons from the start, making Lucifer the only one of them that was also a Virtue at one point

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[cryinhell]

Okay, theory time:

I'm not the first to theorize that Vaggie is not a sinner but a fallen angel. Not only because of her wings, but it would also answer why she wants to help Charlie with the hotel. Besides just being a good girlfriend

Vaggie wields a spear that she's quite skilled and comfortable using.

Sort of similar to the swords and spears that the exterminator angels use. Vaggie also has an X over her eye like a lot of the exterminator angels do. This could be a reach, but what if Vaggie used to be an exterminator? What if she hated killing sinners and tried to protest against the idea? Perhaps that caused her to lose her seat in Heaven and was sent down to Hell. This could be why she wants to save sinners because she knows how vile the exterminators can be.

Vaggie also told Alastor that she wouldn't let him hurt anyone in the hotel. She's clearly aware of his power, so why make such a claim? Perhaps Vaggie is much stronger than she appears to be. And it's not like Charlie being with a fallen angel is unheard of since her father is a fallen angel. If Vaggie is a fallen angel, does Charlie know this?

Maybe I'm far off here, but this definitely would be interesting and impactful to Vaggie's character.

What do you think of this theory?

#i just want vaggie to be more than just charlies gf #chaggie #hazbin hotel #vaggie #hazbin hotel vaggie #hazbin theories #charlie morningstar #habzin hotel charlie #hazbin hotel theories #hazbin hotel theory #hazbin theory #vivziepop

[vaggietheangel]

Alastor uses the same manipulation tactic on every victim.

He waits until they are down on their luck, and their pride is hurt. He know when people are desperate for help, that is the only time they would be willing to make a deal with someone like him.

Charlie was feeling hopless. She blamed herself for the hotel being under attack. She needed information on how to kill the angels. Alastor had no need to make a deal for her soul in that moment. He wanted her trust.

"She's filled with potential I can guide."

Vaggie was frustrated with nobody in the hotel taking her seriously. She couldn't film a decent commercial, so the hotel still looked like a joke. She was willing to let Alastor help in return for a small favour that wouldn't affect her in the least.

Husk was about to lose everything. His money, his power, his status as an overlord.

Alastor starts out with a small deal. Offering something small for something insignificant in return.

A favour from Charlie where she didn't have to hurt anyone.

The promise that he would never have to work wirh TV again for Vaggie.

A randome soul contract for another soul contract.

Alastor starts small to build up a false sense of confidence in his victim. The risk gets higher as the reward gets higher.

Husk didn't lose everything in one game. He lost hand after hand to Alastor.

Until he was so desperate he bet with his own soul to try win everything back.

Alastor asking for a favour was a simple excuse to make a deal with Charlie. To let her gaurd down when making deals with her in the future.

Alastor is playing the long game as a vilan. He's having fun just watching sinners fail for now. When he gets bored, he will use Charlie for something else.

#hazbin hotel #Alastor #Alastor hazbin hotel #husk #Vaggie #Charlie Morningstar #charecter analysis #hazbin hotel theories #husk hazbin hotel

[chaoticace2005]

Rosie: “You know, Alastor, I got a primo connect on a guy with about eight blocks of territory and not enough goons to run it. Prime picking for a deal to be made my friend.” (Episode 7)

I know this is probably just a throw away line… but. But. BUT what if this is referring to Henroin? What if the Spider Fam has taken a hit recently?

#hazbin hotel #henroin #henroin hazbin hotel #arackniss #angel dust #hazbin hotel theories #more of a crack theory than anything #hazbin hotel theory #angel dust hazbin hotel

[an-actual-attack-helicopter]

In previous posts I’ve discussed theories on how Alastor might be forced to choose between his freedom and the hotel. The fandom has almost unanimously agreed that Lilith is the one keeping him from that freedom. So hear me out…

Lute tells Lilith that in order to stay in heaven she has to shut down the hotel.

She doesn’t want to go down there herself so she calls upon Alastor who she knows is already involved.

They make a deal: If Alastor successfully stops Charlie from rehabilitating more sinners, Lilith will free him.

He will have to betray Charlie’s trust, sure. But that can’t be a problem for the vile, bloodthirsty Radio Demon…can it?

YUP, I’M CALLING IT NOW! THIS IS GONNA BE A PLOT POINT (probably)

#hazbin hotel #alastor #CALLING IT BEFORE ANYONE ELSE HOPEFULLY LOL #hazbin hotel theories #Hazbin hotel theory #alastor Hazbin hotel #charlie #Charlie morningstar #lilith #yeah yeah I know he will not hesitate to betray her #but I had to phrase it like that #gotta add suspense

[nichetm]

Anyone want to talk about Al’s smile almost breaking for a frame?? A core value of his is that failing to hide your emotions is a huge show of weakness, that would mean he hates Luci more than any other character we’ve seen him interact with

Whatever the reason my theory is it involves Lilith 🤔

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[coppercrow]

So I no longer think that Alastor made a deal with Lilith, nor that he is working for her. I do still think their disappearances are connected though.

Picture this:

Alastor while he's still alive fears the prospect of death due to the lack of control it presents. He finds a way to make a deal with a power (my suspicion is that it's the character Root of All Evil (Roo) that Viv has hinted is the background threat of Hazbin Hotel, who I imagine is what Eve became when she committed the original sin). Alastor sells his soul to Roo in exchange for power both in life and death. He kills a bunch of people and at least some of them are in aid of his deal.

Alastor dies and and arrives in Hell charged up on Roo's power, and with a direction to amass even more. He spends the next several decades slaughtering Overlords, but not doing much with what he gathers. He isn't interested in running a business, or gathering territory, just growing his power and persuing his whims. For Alastor it seems like he won the lottery with this deal.

Meanwhile we have Lillith who all through time has been trying to empower Hell and bring it together. Heaven started the exterminations, but she continues to persist even as Lucifer loses his spark. If Roo is actually Eve, she has every reason to want to see Lilith destroyed and Hell suffer.

So during an extermination seven years ago Roo gives Alastor an outright command: kill Lilith. This is obviously not something Alastor would be keen to do, but he has no choice. He goes after Lilith and they fight. Powered by Roo and the power he's amassed, he manages to win the fight and Lilith is killed, only to respawn in Heaven (after all she's been a loving mother and cared for the people of Hell, and the only sin she was initially guilty of was rejecting Adam, and she looked decidedly non demon-ish and didn't have any horns in episode 8) or possibly flees there??

Alastor barely makes it out of the fight alive, and spends the next seven years recuperating and trying to figure out how to escape his deal with Roo. He's finally realised that his deal isn't as good as it seemed and he's starting to pay the price. If Lucifer ever finds out what he did, he'd be a smear on the pavement.

Then he finds a possible solution: Charlie. The daughter of a fallen angel and the first demon, young and idealistic and in need of support on her brand new project. While she might not use her powers, she has the potential to become scarily powerful over time.

Alastor hatches a plan - show up at the hotel, give a plausible reason for being there, and slowly ingratiate himself with her and shape her progression until he can position her into making a deal with him. Maybe one favour won't be enough, but it can be a slippery slope for Charlie. When the time comes he can manipulate her into freeing him from his deal, and leave him free to carry out his own plans (maybe setting himself up to rule Hell through Charlie as a puppet ruler?)

Over the next six months he positions himself to gain trust. He manipulate Lucifer by antagonizing him into supporting Charlie and setting up the seeds of a confrontation with Heaven. Then the time comes and he pounces and makes the deal, and he has one favour stored away to use at the most inopportune time for Charlie.

Then the battle comes and Alastor gets cocky. He volunteers himself to deal with Adam, and nearly dies for it. This freaks him the fuck out - he'd already gotten his favour but he risked himself to save them all more than he really needed to. I think that despite himself he'd started to think fondly of the hotel team and let it influence his judgement just a little.

In the aftermath of the battle he's shaken and his song is him reaffirming the plans he had when he first came to the hotel, and telling himself that he needs to escape his deal at any cost.

I think that in the coming seasons we could see the following:

- Alastor trying to double down on his whole 'I'm the untouchable radio demon' bit to try and distance himself from the hotel team, only to fail as they keep getting under his skin.

- Alastor slowly getting more desperate as the consequences of his deal close in, and increasing conflict as he wars with what this means.

- everything culminating in a moment where Alastor has to make a choice to betray the hotel team for freedom, and does it without hesitation and is all 'I'm the villain Charlie, did you really think I could be redeemed? How amusing.'

- Alastor then realising that despite having betrayed everyone he does actually care and his goals seeming hollow in the aftermath of this.

- the question of whether even someone like Alastor deserves a second chance/to be forgiven as he tries to convince Charlie to work with him to take down Roo, is the real threat to them all.

- Heaven and Hell fighting side by side to destroy Roo and the reformation of the afterlife entirely.

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[hellfyre]

thinking about how adam was the first human soul in Heaven bc what the fuck happened to Abel. did he go to hell (for some reason?)

like what happened there. he was the first human to ever die so like would the theories saying Eve is the first person to enter hell be therefore incorrect? Because Adam and Eve had another son to replace Abel, Seth. Eve did not die first.

idk i have gripes and confusion about that stuff.

#hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel theories #hazbin hotel spoilers #adam hazbin hotel #like what is happening #because the only thing I can think of is able went to hell and he would have had to go to hell before his mother #or he just went nowhere?? #like. idk the story of cain and abel is interesting and like basic bible canon stuff. #i could maybe see abel was actually shitty in the show and lucifer convinced cain to kill him maybe bc of that since lucifer is not evil #but this show doesnt seem to think very deeply. #it feels more like abel and cain were probably forgotten #but like man i dont know whats going on #hazbin hotel critical #although i guess in the show the first human to enter hell was Lilith regardless #Eve can still be relevant since she *ate* the forbidden fruit first though

[thecrazywriter]

Ok I've seen a few people being pissed about there being a child in hell (the scene where vaggie lost her wings specifically), something about how Viv said children don't go to hell and it's bad storytelling, etc.

But that got me thinking. We know Charlie was born in hell, and in the pilot Angel Dust tells his driver to say hi to the missus. So it's possible that there are other couples in hell other than Lilith and Luci who also had children, which would explain where the child came from.

#hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel theories #vaggie #charlie morningstar #lucifer #just a thought

[mintaikcorpse]

Alastor & Roo Theory

OKAY, HEAR ME OUT

Before Lilith was revealed to be in Heaven, we all thought that Alastor made a deal with her and that was the leash he was referring to. But, now that we know Lilith is in Heaven, there's a lower chance of it being her. While it COULD still be her, I want to play around with this theory.

What if the chain Alastor is under is Roo?

For those who don't know, Roo was an old OC Vivziepop made, and she was the root of all evil.

Originally I thought this concept was scrapped but in Hazbin Hotel, when Charlie talks about Heaven, she says that they "shielded all from evil" and when she says evil, a being with a face appears, which I think is Roo.

I think that Heaven was protecting itself from Roo, and when Lucifer gave Adam & Eve the apple, that set her free because it was someone actively disobeying Heaven, which planted her roots of evil into the physical world. Goes into the hole "planting the roots of evil" idea because it was a fruit given to Eve. A red fruit, the color associated with Roo, and with seeds in it, for the root of evil.

Perhaps Roo already lied in the fruit tree, which is why it's red. Perhaps it was her prison to keep her from gaining power and interfering with Earth, and Adam & Eve weren't allowed to touch it because doing so would bring evil. Heaven probably never explained to Lucifer why he shouldn't give them the apple because they're so used to blind obedience, but Lucifer was a thinker and thought that knowledge and free will would be a great gift for mankind, not knowing that Roo was the one lying in the tree.

And when Earth is shown to gain evil, the hand that surrounds it looks like literal roots.

Roo lied in the tree already, and Lucifer handing the apple to Eve is what set her, the Root of all Evil, free.

Hope I got my point across, I tend to have trouble saying my thoughts.

Why do I think it's Roo controlling Alastor? Right now, she's the only being powerful enough to overpower Alator that isn't Lucifer, Lilith, Charlie, The Sins, other Overlords, and The Goetias, as non of them seem to really cause any fear in Alastor. Sure, he hates Lucifer because he's more powerful than him, but that was more pettiness and not genuine fear, and Lucifer hadn't even met him before all of this! Sera wouldn't make a deal with a demon, and Emily wouldn't either. So, I think the one that he made a deal with was Roo.

Not sure how new this theory is. Looked it up and got an animatic made 2 weeks before I even thought of this. Absolutely love this animatic, please watch it. But, I really like this and I'm honestly so excited to see who is controlling Alastor.

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[justineangelrococo]

Ya'll this is my current hyperfixation right now so I'm sorry and trying not to go hard on it why I honest to gods. Do not know as this is my blog and I should do whatever but it's whatever, right now I'm also gonna make another post about another theory but something keeps bothering me.

Why Charlie doesn't look like her mother, like looking at the photos of all of them yeah you can see Lucifer but you know what I don't see Lilith. I look a Charlie and Lilith more and more and I go there is something wrong here like where did her little button nose come from the eyes and wait a damn minute that smile

We have all seen that smile before Eve! Which makes me go what if Lilith couldn't have kids depending on when she was either sent to hell, ate something from hell as, hell items affect living things in a worst way remember in helluva boss season 1 episode 3 spring broken, the fish after the had come in contact with the alcoholic drink Verosika was drinking. Which automatic made that fish a demonic problem, so was Lilith alive when she changed and if so that means Charlie could be her daughter. If not then she couldn't have Charlie, as Sinners themselves can not have kids they can't reproduce. So then did Lilith and Lucifer come to Eve for this reason to be their surrogate for their future child.

Now we have two more reasons on to if Eve is the villain is this another reason, she might feel used, and now she witnessed Lucifer be so depressed he was neglectful of their child along with Lilith what if she was too busy running hell to really focus on their child they asked for, and maybe to Eve used her for, we don't know but it's a lot, but I had to get this theory out and i am excited for the next episodes and sad season 1 will be ending soon, remember folks this is just a fun little theory, a little ramble if you will, as I still have these theories fresh.

#hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel charlie #hazbin hotel Lucifer #hazbin hotel Lilith #hazbin hotel Eve #Helluva boss #Hazbin hotel spoilers #helluva boss spoilers #is spoilers if season 1 has been out a minute though? #tagging it just to be safe #hazbin hotel theory #hazbin hotel theories

[harmfulb1tch]

This is a late night Hazbin Hotel thought. What if now in the show Alastor’s story gets changed. What if we all know him to be this New Orleans serial killer when in reality he was just the sweetest. Imagine he killed someone without truly meaning to and panicked, so he went to bury them in the woods. Then, in an unlucky moment he gets shot by a hunter and ends up in hell. After that, the guilt drives him crazy and that is when he starts eating human flesh, killing demons and overlords, playing the role of the horrible serial killer that everyone thought he was. I know this is probably not canon but just imagine.

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[turtleofthehollow]

I love the theory that Alastor's deal forces him to smile for the sheer amount of mind fuckery that would cause

No matter how angry you get, no matter how hopeless you feel, you can't stop smiling. Always putting on an expression that suggests your fine when nothing could be the case

It get's even better if Alastor genuinely does love to smile all the time to keep people guessing, but now has no autonomy about it. All the power he derived from keeping up a smile is taken from him because he has no choice in it anymore

It's a sign of how helpless he really is, and no one will ever notice because he's been smiling all this time

To everyone else, there's no difference at all

Which means if Alastor ever gets over his ego and wants help, he has to actually ask for it. He has to put his pride aside and actually admit that he can't handle this on his own anymore

If anything, this would make for a great set up for his redemption arc (if he ever wants to get redeemed)

#the psychological damage of always smiling is strong with this one #hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel alastor #alastor headcanons #hazbin hotel headcanons #hazbin hotel theories #alastor theories #character arcs #alastor's character arc #alastor the radio demon #the radio demon #hazbin alastor #radio demon #alastor hazbin hotel #alastor hazbin

[chaoticace2005]

List of WHERE THE FUCK DID VAGGIE COME FROM?? (and also other exorcists)

1. She was heaven-born: ichor as blood is limited to heaven-born, Adam named her, military schools from being exorcist, picked up Spanish elsewhere (a Winner maybe? We haven’t seen any other angels speak Spanish yet so…)

2. She was a human soul: ichor is in all beings living in heaven (as seen with Adam- but he may be a special case), Adam renamed her, military skills possibly due to past life?, where she learned Spanish

3. She is a human soul, and old info about Vaggie remains canon- she’s Salvadoran and died in like 2014

4. ^ That was a lie she told Charlie, and she either had a different life or doesn’t remember/have one on earth at all

5. She’s a human soul that died and went to heaven but lost her memories (either as all Winners do or just after she became an exorcist.) She didn’t have a name so Adam gave her one. Spanish was something she retained

6. She’s a human soul CHOSEN from Earth to be an exorcist. She didn’t die (maybe she was close though?) but they did take her from her life there and washed her memories away.

7. She went to heaven either by 5 or 6 and didn’t lose her memories. But she was forced to confirm and essentially take on a new identity.

8. She was spawned in some exorcist factory in heaven and that’s why Adam named her.

9. “Vaggie” WAS her name on Earth- Adam was her mom.

10. Adam actually went down to Earth and forced some random mother to name her daughter Vaggie because it would be “fucking hilarious.”

11. He actually didn’t name her, but Vaggie reminded him of Vagina so he started pronouncing it like that.

12. Adam laid eggs and she hatched from those.

13. She’s mothman’s daughter (the cryptid, not the icky douchebag demon.) She was raised on earth but because of her elevated status she became an exorcist when she died.

14. ALL exorcists are mothman’s children.

15. Exorcists are random birds picked from Earth after they complete a challenge.

16. Seraphims just pluck feathers out and boom: exorcist.

17. She wasn’t an exorcist. Adam just gaslit her really hard and also the stick up her ass caused her blood to change color so it resembles ichor. (Ghost written by Angel)

18. All exorcists were created at once by the angels. They all grew up and trained together.

19. Once you reach a certain level of the military on earth you become an exorcist when you die (so maybe it’s a free pass and you don’t have to be “good” to be an exorcist, which explains why some of them are so bent on violence. They didn’t have to go through the same screening as everyone else.)

20. They were conditioned to be like this, with Heaven propaganda and working in Hell made them so cold to demons, and having gone through a rigid military program.

21. They spawned fully formed whenever heaven needs more exorcists.

22. Vaggie isn’t real. She’s an illusion of their conscience. The real exorcist was in us all along.

23. Universe saw Charlie was lonely. Universe said, “here girlfriend.” What’s her backstory? They don’t know either.

24. Their blood is actually PISS and they’re spawned form porta-potties left outside too long.

25. Exorcists are people who died by lemons. When life gives people lemons (and kills them), they turn their blood into lemonade.

26. A glow stick factory in Heaven exploded due to Adam. This was the byproduct. Sera had no idea what to do with them so she gave them to Adam as punishment.

#some actual theories and then some random crack thrown in #hazbin hotel #stupid hazbin hotel lists #but also actual theories #hazbin hotel theories #vaggie hazbin hotel #vaggie

[an-actual-attack-helicopter]

Alright. In the q&a viv said some of the fan theories were spot on and I think we know which ones. Lilith is suspicious as fuck, the hotel finally has proof that sinners can go to heaven, we lost sir pentious kind of, Al and Vox used to have somewhat cordial relations, and tons of other shit. So what can we expect for season 2?

Well, let’s look at what plot points and characters are left open.

1. First thing that comes to mind is that Cherri Bomb is gonna join the main cast to fill the hole Sir Pentious created. Despite what she says, I don’t think she’s doing “just fine” so we’ll get to see some development for her. The Addict MV says it all but who knows if that’s still canon so idk.

2. And what about Alastor? He’s the big mystery of the show. The Aaravos of Hazbin Hotel, for my TDP followers. Well I think we will see who’s controlling him. Furthermore, I think at some point he could be forced to choose between the hotel and his freedom. It’s a bit specific but if I’m right that would be wild. Calling it now! 🗣️‼️ I don’t think we are gonna see anything about his human life yet in s2 though but who knows.

3. Emily is definitely gonna try and help Charlie from a distance and I think there might be a heaven sideplot with her and Sir Pentious and shit

4. Lute is gonna be out for vengeance yall. Brace yourselves.

5. The deals Vaggie and Charlie both made with Alastor are absolutely gonna come back to bite them in the ass. They will probably need Alastor to do television shit and Al will probably make Charlie do something bad.

6. The plot between Vox and Al thickens? Right now it’s just kind of a pathetic rivalry and a onesided boycrush (/j) with the best song in the show keeping it going. I’m loving it though.

7. We finally get to see Molly and Baxter and Arakniss hopefully lmao

8. We get to see Lucifer’s backstory a little more perhaps

9. Angel breaks free from Val’s clutches? It will probably involve a deal with Al honestly.

10. And finally, Alastor has spent this season setting the board and now it’s time to play. We need to see his plans in action, we need the payoff. What’s he gonna do with the power and assets he’s gained?

I also REALLY hope season 2 gets more episodes. The pacing in season 1 was fucked.

#Hazbin hotel #Hazbin hotel theories #hazbin hotel spoilers #alastor #Angel dust #vox #an-actual-attack-helicopter

[neotrix-09]

I've seen the idea that Adam will be reborn as a sinner,and I honestly love the concept,and I want to see him more as he gets character development. On the other hand,if they do another extermination...

"We've successfully slain all residents of the Hazbin Hotel,down to their most recent guest."

"He looked oddly familiar,though..."

"..."

"..."

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