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gembastarde · 2 years
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{ road to perfection }
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karawebo · 2 years
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I haven’t drawn anything from hnk for a long time 🐛
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ursa-the-stranger · 2 years
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SHIROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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king-paimon · 2 years
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Houseki no Kuni Chapter 97 Thoughts: Rebirth and Purpose
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Wow...this was a very fascinating chapter. We finally get to see more of Adamant’s past and his relationship with the doctor character, Professor Ayumu. And at the end, we got to see what can be best described as Phos’s presumably final metamorphosis.
I have to admit, I didn’t think we’d be seeing this transformation so soon. Yes, I figured we’d see Phos transform again, but I thought the process was going to take a while. Like, I really thought that we’d be seeing Phos in their gooey form for another chapter or two, see them wander around and maybe even new gems or something like that.  I don’t know how I feel about that just yet. Maybe it’s just me or doesn’t this feel so...sudden? Rushed? I don’t know. I’ll talk a bit more about that later in the post. But first, I want to go over the main meat of this chapter. This post may be a little messy as I’m writing this really late and I’m really, really tired. Please expect some edits here and there.
I’d also like to note: Whenever I’m talking about Phos’s current form, I’m going to call it their “Enlightened Form.” I saw a few posts calling it Phos’s “Angelic Form” and though it does look angelic, I’m going to call it Phos’s “Enlightened Form” instead. It feels more appropriate since this story revolves around Buddhism. And I don’t want to call Phos a Buddha just yet; that’ll be saved for how things turn out in the next chapter.
Also TW: Body horror for anyone who’s squeamish about that stuff. 
Ok, here we go:
The Human and Her Machine
The interactions between Adamant and Prof. Ayumu were really fascinating. It’s been a while since I’ve seen Adamant be so... expressive? Youthful? It’s...so odd to see him like this, but it’s nice. And his interactions with the dog were adorable, I can’t deny. 
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TW: Body horror again!
Prof. Ayumu herself is fascinating, too. I really liked what Ms. Ichikawa did in designing her slowly decomposing, not entirely organic body. It reminds of some of her other trippy works. I don’t think if it was ever explained how she end up like this but I get the feeling that she continuously modified herself by replacing organic parts with robotic parts so would be able to live long enough finish making Adamant. I always find characters who would go through such modifications fascinating.
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But other than her design, what intrigued me about Prof. Ayumu is her revelation about about the world and her place (or rather humanities place) within it.
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These are the words of someone who realized that humans really can’t control everything. To me, she’s essentially saying: “Humans really didn’t matter in the ‘grand scheme’ of the universe. We were here by chance and now we’re going by chance. And the world will just keep changing. Nothing we/I did mattered, and that’s fine.” This revelation reminds me of some of the different Buddhism teachings that I’ve come across over the past few years, including ones from other analysist posts. 
This dialogue also made me think about Phos and their experience. About their initial pursuit for finding their role in their world. And even as Phos and their goals evolved, there was still this underlining drive of finding something for themselves. Whether it be a purpose for themselves, a purpose for someone else, or just happiness. And sadly that drive also contributed to their suffering. Phos and their journey is like a reflection of raw human desires.
Reincarnation: From Human to Gem to Human again
This chapter also revealed how Prof. Ayumu and Phos are connected, with the likelihood that Phos is Prof. Ayumu’s reincarnated form. There were discussion before about how the universe had been restarted many times, but I don’t remember if reincarnation was something that was brought up before this. 
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If Phos really is the reincarnation of Prof. Ayumu, this could be one of the reasons why Adamant showed favoritism towards them. This was something a few fans had commented on before, and I agree with them. Now I’m wondering... Did Adamant know that Phos was connected to the Prof. Ayumu in this manner? Did he remember this small conversation after so many years had passed? And did this influence how he treated Phos throughout their life?
In my opinion, I think Adamant did remember this conversation, but I don’t think he made the connection to Phos until much, much later. In fact, I think he started to see more of the professor within Phos as they evolved. I don’t think we’ll ever know for sure.
But this scene and the next scene I will talk about brings me back to Adamant and what his possible real goal was.
Adamant’s True True Goal: Burn it all down
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This. This, and and the previous dialogue that lead up to this panel really stuck out to me. Remember, these are Adamants’ memories. The professor told this to Adamant for a reason, and I think Adamant wanted Phos to see this. Why? I can’t think of any other reason other than to set something big in motion. Or rather, to STOP something that’s in motion.
(The following thoughts literally came to mind as I was writing this, so forgive me if they are too outlandish.)
For the longest time, I think many fans, including myself, have been questioning Adamant’s choice of actions both before and after he was taken to the moon. Maybe I’m overthinking this, but what are the chances that most of Adamant’s actions, including inactions, up until this point were deliberate.
What if Adamant was intentionally or subconsciously sabotaging this cycle that Aechmea’s trying to complete?  What if his reluctance to pray wasn’t only because he loved the gems, but because of the last order he was given from Prof. Ayumu? What if Adamant wasn’t actually “broken”?
Remember, Adamant could only pray if he was told to by a “human.” Could the same be said if he was told to “burn the bridge”? Again, I’m probably reaching, but could this be a possibility?
Ok, before I lose track, let’s go back to Phos and this scene. There must be a reason why Phos is experiencing this. Did Adamant know that Phos would experience is? Is there a chance he hoped Phos would pick up where he left off in this regard? It’s actually hard to say, but it’s clear that Phos needed to hear this for an important reason. Adamant had to have done this on purpose...
And now I’m wondering Aechmea actually knew about this when he gave Phos Adamant’s eye. I figured he wanted Phos to experience the traumatic event Adamant witnessed, but what about that specific conversation with the professor?
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And you know what, I’m also wondering back to Aechmea and Adamant’s new “partnership.” Several fans, including myself, have noted how Adamant seemed off after being brought to the moon. It felt weird seeing how Adamant is acting fine around Aechmea after seeing him fight back against him and the Lunarians for so many chapters. We could excuse this as a result of the transformation process that all the other gems had. But now, I’m again wondering if Adamant really is fine with everything or if this is somehow a ruse. I still stand by the theory that while Aechmea may be powerful and can predict certain people’s actions, he’s not omnipresent and can’t predict or control everyone. I’m hoping this is the case for Adamant.
Again, I know it’s a stretch. Maybe a part of me still wants to believe in Adamant. That there is still a sliver of defiance within him and now Phos. Well, regardless of whether Adamant is truly now on Aechmea’s side or not, I think Adamant wanted Phos to experience this scene with Prof. Ayumu. He wanted Phos to hear that final order. And I believe the outcome of this will play out in the next chapter...
But before that, I want to share my thoughts about this chapter as a whole.
How I’m feeling about this chapter: Going too fast?
I like this chapter overall, especially because we got to learn more about Adamant and their role in everything. But I admit that the last two to three pages caught me by surprise for a few reasons. The first being Phos’s enlightened form. It’s.. eerie and pretty at the same time. It’s a very unique form, and it contrasts a lot from Phos’s last two forms. I think that was Ms. Ichikawa’s intent. It’s very interesting how she incorporates Buddhism imagery in such unique and abstract ways.
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But despite my fascination with this form, I still feel that we’re seeing it too soon. Like I stated at the top of this post, part of me feels like this chapter, or rather Phos’s transformation was rushed. I’m not saying this because I want to see Phos continue to suffer any more in their gooey state; in all honesty, I’m kind of happy to not see their gooey depressed form anymore. 
But at the same time, it feels like Ms. Ichikawa is now running to the finish line. And after having Aechmea say that they would just supervise Phos and collect any new gems in the previous chapter, I kind expected that we would see some of that? Maybe small glimpses of that at least? Maybe it’s just me thinking this. What do you guys think?
Well regardless of how I feel about the pacing in the last few pages, Phos’s “enlightened” form is really cool. But how “enlightened” have they become? I think that will be answered by what they do next...
The final turning point...
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I think it’s clear that the next chapter will lead to the next, if not final, turning point in the story. “Everyone” is here to greet the newly “Enlightened Phos.” With the Lunarians are on the left. The Admirabilis on the right. And the gems right in the center, right above Phos. This is it. All remnants of humanity are here. And Phos’s actions in the next chapter will be the determining factor in how this story will conclude. Anything can happen now, but the question is what?
Will Phos do the prayer for the remnants of humanity and free everyone as Adamant’s replacement?
Will Phos “burn that bridge” and stop the cycle somehow?
A bit of both? 
Or will Phos do something no one saw coming?
Who knows. We’ll have to wait until next month to see.
But regardless of what happens next, like I’ve said in my last few posts, I guarantee there will be a lot of unsatisfied fans in this fandom and there will be anger, specifically towards Ms. Ichikawa.
But you know what? That doesn’t matter to me right now. 
Despite my own conflicted feelings, I’ve been enjoying my time with Houseki no Kuni and I’m sticking to this story no matter what to the end. And if this leads to the most bitter, most anger inducing end with no happiness in sight, it’s fine. 
I will have no regrets.
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aspirationatwork · 2 years
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Did they just timeskip through the entire 10,000 years??? Because that's what it looks like
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pxpkorn · 2 years
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CHAPTER 97 HOUSEKI NO KUNI
Hi!!! I’m back!!!!!! What the fuck was that chapter!!!’ I didn’t publish anything for the previous because I was too stunned to speak, however with this one!!!!
He dive right into the BEGINNING of everything! The beginning of the inorganic world, and the end of the humans so to speak. I can’t jump right into it because I NEED TO PROCESS WHAT WAS THAT but the final panel is so pretty….
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What are your opinions on it???
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deadinthename · 2 years
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phospho- er, dr ayumu.
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roserocksrapidly · 2 years
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some interesting foreshadowing I noticed... ch 61 vs ch 97
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randomy-chan · 2 years
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The most human emotion
After having given it some thought, and also considering Chapter 97, I’ve thought a lot about what Enma said in chapter 88.
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Of course, back when Phos went onto their revenge spree, most of us were on board with it, especially since the gems have wronged Phos greatly. But I never couldn’t really agree with what Enma said, especially since he considered Phos too pure after they got their gold aloy and agate legs.
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And exactly that thinking is why the Moon people can’t pass into Nirvana. They considered Phos, while they were looking monstrous and only were out for blood (inclusions?) the most human that they’ve ever been,
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while Adamant considered Phos human enough before (or rather saw Doctor Ayumu in them) that state.
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If there is one thing that keeps getting Phos closer and closer to humanity, then it was them reveiving or showing love. When Ventri gave them the agate legs, she also gently petted over their broken face, or when they lost their arms, Antarc got themself into danger to get them new ones. Even receiving Lapis’ head was an act of love from Cairn. After each of those times they developed further and changed more. 
But when they got to the moon? They were forced to have the pearl eye, they were forced to wear the lunarian clothes. That is when they stopped developing and were stuck in that Laphos phase.
Through the moon they ended up desiring vengeance, which made them lose sight of who they originally were. So it’s notable, when they got the final and last treasures, Sensei’s eye and Cinnabar’s mercury that they radically changed again. One was due to a promise that was fulfilled and another to give Phos the chance to pray.
But they truly became enlightened through a motherly kiss.
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Phos wasn’t human because they wanted vengeance, but because they love. The lunarians are so focused on wanting salvation, that they could never consider love as a way to reach Nirvana. They only hurt and destroy, because that’s the thing that got them onto the moon in the first place.
So in a way, a rock amalgation becoming a divine figure is more human than any human souls that are residing on the moon.
Because the most human emotion is love.
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randomys-art · 2 years
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Pseudomorph of Love
I wish for Phos to reconcile with themself, as love is the most human emotion
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transmasc-makima · 2 years
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hi something i noticed about the new chapter
The admirabillis are on the left
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The lunarians are on the right (cairngorm is also there)
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and the gems with Kongo are in the center
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Absolutely no clue if this means anything since ch 97 rlly confused me but just thought this was interesting
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gembastarde · 2 years
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you, who wished for a place to belong.
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padpasimp · 2 years
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The body horror in this newest chapter alone
Just
Wow
Casually ripping your own robotic vein out, pouring the fluids out into a wine glass, just to drink it sophisticatedly seems like a mood
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ursa-the-stranger · 2 years
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I'm Screaming girls she did it again. Ichikawa Haruko did it again. she broke into my house and beat the shit out of me again.
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king-paimon · 2 years
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Houseki no Kuni Chapter 98 Thoughts: In the eyes of the beholder....
Sorry for the long delay. I had a lot of important life stuff going on that needed my attention, so writing my thoughts on the newest chapter was a last priority. I actually wrote most of this post last month but things kept on popping up so I had to delay finishing this even more. Again, sorry for the delay. With that being said... Wow. Both to the chapter and the fandom’s initial reactions.
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It’s been a while since I’ve seen the fandom have such varying opinions about what happened in a new chapter. The main opinions I’ve seen the most thus far are fans not liking how the story progressed nor do they like the messages Ms. Ichikawa is seemingly projecting through Phos. It’s understandable why these fans feel this way. It’s also understandable why there are also fans who love the chapter and/or like Ms. Ichikawa’s interpretive message. It’s clear that this is one of those special chapters that are impacted by personal beliefs and interpretations. An “in the eyes of the beholder” chapter that doesn’t offer a clear cut answer for whether what happened in the chapter was good, bad, right, or wrong. To me, this is an interesting way of storytelling, though I can understand why this can be frustrating to some. I’ll try to talk about this further in this post.
The first thing I want to talk about is Phos, their prayer, and what I think it means.
BTW: This post is based on my own initial reaction to the chapter and everything that transpired in the fandom. Some thoughts I had hear may be different now after seeing some of the other posters’ thought and I’ll make sure to add them.
Phos’s prayer: Finally Free
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This was the action many fans were hoping Phos wouldn’t do as a form of defiance again Aechmea and the others. And even in this chapter, Phos verbalized their anguish and desire for retribution, which I’m sure some of the fans would have liked to see. But in the end, that’s not what Phos did. They wished to join everyone in turning into nothingness and prayed.
I can understand why people are upset with the chapter. I’ll go more into this in the next section but I just wanted to mention how I’ve already seen a few posts talking about how upset they were with this chapter and the events leading to it, and I won’t say that what they are feeling is invalid. It’s a reasonable reaction.
For me, I will admit that part of me was not entirely pleased at first. Even though I had a feeling this was going to be the direction that it was going to go, I part of me did want to see Phos defy Aechmea and deny the prayer.
But I also realize that doing that wouldn’t solve anything. Phos and everyone else have been in varying states of limbo throughout the course of the story, and refusing the prayer would put everyone in another state of suffering limbo. Even if refusing prayer prevented everyone else from being free, as a form of retaliation, it would have prolonged Phos’s own suffering even longer and they’ve already suffered enough. Phos has had enough of that.
No more of that.
They are truly done with everything.
No more sadness, anger, hatred, or anything...
They don’t care.
Phos is choosing to let go.
They are choosing to be free. Of everything.
After the initial shock, Phos’s actions made more sense to me. Even if it means that Phos is giving Aechmea and the others what they want, this was Phos’s way out. Which leads me to my very hot take...
Forgiveness Vs Just Letting Go (Hot take!!)
I don’t see Phos’s final act as a show of “forgiveness”, “mercy,” or “being the bigger person” for the others, or at least not fully. This action feels like...some form of relief for Phos. It reminds me of this mentality of forgiving a wrongdoer, even though that person may have seriously hurt you. Some people do this as a way of showing kindness to the wrongdoer as part of their religious or personal beliefs. To take the moral high ground essentially. But I know some do it more so for themselves rather than the other person. The action of forgiveness in the later case, is a way of absolving oneself from the connection they would have to the wrongdoer. An action that frees oneself from eternalized torment that is intended or unintended by the other party. Affectively breaking the chains built by often justifiable anger and resentment.
To me, this was one of the main reasons why Phos chose to pray. By praying, Phos finally freeing themselves from the cycle of suffering by severing their tie to everyone and everything. Phos is letting go of all of the pain and hatred that once drove their actions. Phos is letting go of the negativity that they once harbored towards others and themselves. They prayed for the others so they can be free. Yes, it means that Aechmea got what he wanted in the end, but that doesn’t matter to Phos anymore. They don’t care.
This form of “forgiveness” is one that I’m very familiar with and its a mentality that I sometimes find myself conflicted with, especially if the forgiver ends up getting hurt more as a result. I can understand why some people choose to forgive for this reason, though there are circumstances where I can’t really agree with their logic. But in the end, it’s up to personal views on the concept of forgiveness.
I’m wondering if this belief is also connected to Buddhism teachings, but since I don’t know enough about this, I won’t go into it much further and leave it to people who know more than I.
Long story short for this section, I’m essentially saying that while Phos did do the prayer, I think Phos did it more so for themselves than everyone else. Yes, Phos’s actions show that they’ve taken the moral high ground but as far as I can see, that’s not their motivation. They are freeing themselves from this cycle of pain and hatred towards others and themselves.
Perhaps this action is Phos’s way of ending the cycle. "The Burning the bridge” request from the nihilistic Professor during her last moments. Maybe it’s up to interpretation. Speaking of which...
Good or Bad Story Telling?: A Fandom Conflicted
When I first saw the leaks, I had the feeling that fans weren’t going to be happy. After several days since the translation, this was proven correct. Like I said at the top of this post, I totally understand. And I can even understand why some fans are discrediting Ms. Ichikawa for how she progressed her story. Now, while I can still understand these feelings, I can’t. Not yet anyway.
One thing that I found interesting was how I saw a few posts from people still hoping Phos would still seek revenge against everyone after everything they went through. And yeah, I can see the appeal. It sounds nice and poetic. 
But... I think it’s been made clear that this isn’t the type of story Ms. Ichikawa intended to convey. From what I can see, Ichikawa showed how that the violent type of vengeance can only go so far and while the feeling it would bring to Phos/audience feels good and cathartic... it’s only temporary and it doesn’t solve anything.
So as satisfying as it would been to see Phos cause some kind of damage to Aechmea or the other human remnants, this would just continue to feed into the cycle of pain and self-hatred Phos was in and it wouldn’t end. Yes, the others would have suffered to an extent, but would it have been worth it if it meant Phos’s suffering had to continue? To me, that would have been pointless. I understand if you don’t agree with this sentiment; this is just how I’m trying to rationalize this part of the story. I could be completely wrong and I’d love to hear your thoughts about this.
Other than that, the dissatisfaction many fans have felt is very apparent. Again, their reasons and feelings are valid, including how some felt that the other characters were getting rewarded thanks to Phos’s sacrifice and mistreatment. But what did surprise me was how there were a good number of fans who loved the chapter! They too had very good reasons for doing so. Like I said at the top, seeing these differing opinions fascinated me as much as the chapter itself did.
I think this chapter, as well as the overall direction the story has taken, just shows how atypical this author is when it comes to her story-telling. This is not a typical action or “shounen/shoujo” story where things are clear black and white and the hero gets the best imagined ending. From start to finish, this story was filled with characters in varying shades of gray and all have committed acts that can easily change how the reader sees them; though I think many can agree that Aechmea belongs on the far dark side. It really shows how Ms. Ichikawa does a pretty good job creating a divisive story, which can be very difficult to do and I commend her for that at least. 
HOWEVER, this positive view of her storytelling style greatly depends if this was her intention or not. Since it seems that the next update may be the last, I want to reserve my true final judgement by then and since it looks like it’ll be a while until then, I have plenty of time to really think about it.
Side Note: I also remember seeing a few posts from fans who were in complete denial about what happened and were either claiming it was a dream sequence or were holding hope that the author was going to do another twist that would lead to Phos taking vengeance again. Sorry guys... it did happen. But if by some weird chance this chapter was a dream...then I would rethink Ms. Ichikawa’s writing, because that would be straight out cop out. I’d be so disappointed if this happens.
Now, despite my fascination of this chapter and the fandom’s split response to it, there are some things that weren’t clear that did bug me...
Personal Criticisms and Inquiries
While I’m with the few people who don’t hate this chapter and story’s direction in general, there are still some things that are not addressed that leave me not satisfied. If anyone has answers to these or their own interpretation of an answer, please feel free to comment because I would love to hear them.
Adamant’s and Aechmea’s so-called “Gift” for Phos: 
What exactly was Aechmea's and Adamant’s solution to Euclase’ request in chapter 96? Was it having everyone appear to them in their enlightened form?
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Everyone’s knowledge of what’s happening: 
Was everyone aware of why they were there? I know Aechmea, Adamant, and a few of the gems were aware. But what about everyone else, including the Admirabilis? Did they know that they were going to Phos so that they could pray for them? It seemed like this is the case but part of me isn’t sure...
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Adamant: Despite the rollercoaster of conflicting emotions Ms. Ichikawa has made me go through when it came to this character, I still wanted to believe in him. Believe that he had something planned that even Aechmea couldn’t predict. But I’m left asking myself...what was it?
Was there a plan? Was Adamant following through the Professors last command? Was what transpired in this chapter part of the plan? Or...was all of this wishful thinking? I still don’t know.
Lastly, I’ve stated in previous posts how I felt the pacing in these last few chapters felt oddly fast. Some of you gave your opinions on what I wrote about this and you guys made some solid arguments. After reading this chapter, I guess I don’t feel like it’s as rushed anymore, but it seems clear to me that Ms. Ichikawa is about ready to end this story.
How will this all end?
I have no clue. After everything that we’ve seen thus far, I can’t fathom how this story will end. And you know what? I’m glad. Surprise me in a good way. 
I’m positive many fans have mentally checked out of the story now because of this latest chapter and I can’t blame them. But regardless, I said I was going to stick to it till the bitter end and I fully intend on doing so. Because despite my personal grievances with the story and even the author, I still enjoyed it a lot. And I enjoyed being in the fandom, even when I didn’t agree with the majority when it came to the story and characters.
I want to see how this ends, regardless if it ends beautifully or crashes and burns. 
And unlike before, I’m no longer worried about what’s to come.
Lay it in me, Ms. Ichikawa. You monster.
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aspirationatwork · 2 years
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Divine Phos cosplay ultimate challenge
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