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asteracaea · 11 months
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guys, a stranger from reddit got me the long sleeve tour tee and is mailing it to me at cost, no more, and i am truly overwhelmed and touched by the kindness
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Hey sooo could u pls share the twitter essay here👉👈
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thank you for the ask, I'm honored that you want to hear my thoughts on this, and thanks char for sending your anon over to me!
okay, you see the thing is, the reason I blurred it out is a bit anticlimactic: I have no actual clue what I was talking about.
I don't actually know too much about this topic of what the dynamics between dannies and phillies looked like in the past because I've only been here since november last year and have never seen someone really discuss this in depth, I've only seen it being mentioned in passing. So everything I wrote was assumptions I made based on vague posts and my general understanding of dnp's and the phandom's history. I feel like this was enough to get the gist of this across to someone who doesn't really know dnp (apart from my previous elaborate ramblings about them) but not enough to post it on tumblr.
so if somebody has any input regarding this topic please tell me! and if I'm saying anything that's wrong (which is very likely) please correct me, I'm genuinely curious to hear thoughts on this by someone who actually knows what they're talking about :)
I will put what I wrote, along with some commentary, under the cut!
(addition: as I'm writing this commentary I'm realising how little I actually know, so please don't take this as actual information but more as...an interesting case study of how a new phannie perceives the history of the phandom)
first of all some more background info:
the original question was "[are there any people who] only like one of them and hate/don’t care about the other one?".
some shorter messages leading up to the long one seen in the screenshot:
there used to be a dannie/phillie divide but afaik all the way back in like...2013. now there are obviously people who prefer one of them but not in a way that they actively dislike the other one. and within the phandom I don't think there are really people who feel indifferent about one of them cause yk the thing is, these days it's impossible to watch one of them alone. dan doesn't use his channel, we wouldn't even see him if it wasn't for phil and even when he did a live stream thingy for his solo tour, phil was there. and phil either includes or talks about dan in every video he makes. so I guess either you like both or neither, you don't really have much of a choice also, they make it so goddamn obvious how much they love and care for and apprechiate each other and what an important role they play in each other's life, it would be kind of weird to claim to be a fan of one of them and then hate the person they like the most, yk
this was asked in the context of us talking about why there's this phenomenon that if you have a group of famous people who are strongly associated with each other (for example boybands or actors that work together on a tv show), there'll often be one person that is "hated" by the fandom. Their hypothesis was that this happens when "the one hated is either problematic, doesn’t like the other(s), or is more successful than the other(s)".
okay first the relevant part of my answer: I think overall you're right. I feel like if someone's more popular an important factor for them being disliked is that it feels like they think they're better/more important than the rest of the group. or if they all started out together that they don't apprechiate where they've come from, which both obviously hurts people who like that thing this person dismisses. but this also goes the other way, the people who like that person who is more famous often dislike the others in that group for being "jealous"/"leeching" off of the more famous person's fame.
and finally the thing you actually asked about, the long messages froom the screenshot broken up into multiple parts with the afore mentioned commentary:
now the less relevant part which is just me yapping about dnp and why this didn't happen to them I can imagine that at the very beginning some people probably didn't like dan because he was just some random dude, just another fan, who suddenly was part of youtube and attached to phil.
did...did this actually happen? it seems plausible to me, and I obviously know about charlie etc but how did people really react to dan suddenly being part of the AmazingPhil universe? I know it was an entirely different youtube culture back then and everything happened on a much smaller scale, so it's really hard to estimate how people reacted to this back then. in fact, now that I think more about it, judging from old screenshots I've seen, even at the very beginning people mostly seemed to be quite supportive of them and I think dan got an overwhelmingly positive reponse to uploading his first videos?
can't tell you exactly what went down after that but I do know 2012 was incredibly difficult (long story). things were very tense and especially dan was reallyreally defensive during that time and he had his whole "we're two seperate people" phase.
okay, so if there was any time in the phandom where there was serious tension between dannies and phillies it must've been during this time, right? because from recent discussions I know that there was a point where especially phil wasn't exactly treated the best but I don't know when that was. I feel like it would make sense here though.
anyway, at some point dan surpassed phil's subscribers and I genuinely don't know but I would assume that strengthened that dannie/phillie divide.
Again, I don't actually know when this happened (I would assume some time around 2013/14?) and I have absolutely no idea what the actual reaction people had to this was. but if I know anything about fandoms, this definitely must've stirred up...something. I don't know how obsessed the phandom was with numbers but even if it wasn't that bad, I can't imagine this happening completely without drama attached to it.
but one thing you need to know is that phil was always incredibly supportive of dan and the other way round, dan never talked shit about phil.
correct me if I'm wrong, maybe we simply don't talk about this time that much (with good reason) and I know dan said and wrote a lot of things that were very dismissive about some stuff etc. but in the clips and old posts I've seen he still emphasised that they were friends and didn't hate each other.
and thennn they started their bbc radio show, their joint channel, released a book, went on tour in 2015/16, basically they fully embraced their DanAndPhil brand. this was their peak in popularity and from what I've heard people say that joined the phandom at that time this dannie/phillie divide was basically gone by then because yeah, people liked their seperate things but what really made them blow up was the things they did together.
this is based on something I saw the other day. some people who I know joined the phandom around that time were talking about how they luckily never experienced that dan vs. phil mentality. that's why I wrote the things before this paragraph based on the assumption that the worst bit of the dannies vs phillies thing was before that era and kind of fizzled out by the time tatinof came around.
thennn the hiatus of the gaming channel, coming out (soulmates etc.), dan disappers from the internet (phil's just always there chilling btw). okay the most interesting part comes now, dan eventually writes a book and goes on tour. alone. now if we look at our hypothesis this would be the perfect reason for people to start disliking him, but not with them. phil goes behind dan's back to promote his book, before dan leaves on tour they make this video (https://youtu.be/2M2dF_21ANc) [edit: this is dilm in case you're wondering] where they keep talking about ohhh we've never apart for longer than to weeks oooh how will we cope blah, disgusting. dan makes a youtube series promoting the tour which phil is heavily involved with. and yeah, dan has this "I'm a strong independent dan" thing going on, but it's mostly part of his tour persona. (and also he did have to figure himself out for himself because he's been attached to phil since he was 18, so literally his whole adult life.)
I know some people disliked dystopia daily (which is valid but just for the record, I will defend her with my life) and I know some people generally didn't like/were disappointed with what dan was doing during that era. however. I know that's not representative of the whole phandom and I don't think (look at me assuming things again) those people truly hated dan for it but more like wished that things were different.
and then and then! after the tour nothing...until *drumroll* the gaming channel is back! aka, phil pushed dan to start making dapg videos again and dan's actually enjoying it. and they're fully embracing their DanAndPhil brand again. tl;dr I think the reason why this divide isn't there between them is [because of] how vocally and explicitly they support each other.
THE END
if you've made it this far, congrats, you get a cat! ฅ^•ﻌ•^ฅ
I genuinely meant what I said earlier, I would love to hear more "qualified" opinions on this! feel free to add to this post, completely unravel it...or ignore it if I was too offensively wrong about things :)
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theirloveisgross · 2 months
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I meant to do this the other day in the server but nobody cares there anymore (not that you have to care here but at least I can have it in one post and whatever it's fun).
Let's see how many of these I remember when they're from... I'll only be looking at my calendar with the tour schedule, for city names, nothing else. Maybe then I'll cross check the ones that I can. The tanktops will be hard. Okay...
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1. Erm... I wanna say Columbus, OH. I know he didn't wear too many white ones, and maybe this was the only one with that specific cut, or there was another time, but that show he definitely wore this kind of top.
2. Fuck. Hajshjas. I remember it but I don't. There were so many shows, help. Mmm... Tampa, FL? That doesn't feel right. Dammit.
3. I think Kaunas, Lithuania? With the big ass 7 on his back. Yeah. I get some of those countries mixed up because I couldn't watch some of the European shows and so if I don't watch the shows the outfits don't stick as much for some reason. Anyway.
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4. Lisboa, Portugal, baby!
5. Fuck. Black tank-top and crinkly sweatpants. Not easy. Could be Cuyahoga Falls, OH but I think his hair was longer then. The coloring doesn't help. I don't know. :c
6. Gosh, he's beautiful. Mmm... I wanted to say Philly but I think it's one of the European shows, because that doesn't look like the Prada top. I think it's the one that had the little squares, I forgot the brand. And the show. Dammit.
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7. St. Louis, MO! Such a beautiful top... Ugh.
8. *groans* Not another one! Dammit, I remember the brown sweatpants... This was Europe, but wheeeere. A German show? D:
9. Dammit. Could be Columbus, OH again, for all I know.
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10. Aaaah, wait wait. The Lacoste pants, right? Erm...... Ugh, can't place it. I've gotten really bad at this. :(
11. Philadelphia, PA, of course. Always in our hearts.
12. Uncasville, CT, yes yes. The start of everything!
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13. Birmingham, UK.
14. Kansas City, MO.
15. Paris, France. Right?
Whew! 80+ shows is a lot. Too many similar fits... It's hard. The graphic tees and polos were easy enough back in ltwt and still here. Anyway... Maybe I'll go try and cross-check some of these, especially the tank-tops but...
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goaliekisses · 2 years
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There are some good Sid stories in this interview including how he and Murls emptied the minibar in their room (but Murls claims 18-year-old Sid didn’t drink any alcohol and just cleared out the chocolates and chips 😂)
thanks that was a good listen 😍🥺
-what was it like to be roommates with a young sidney crosby?
“i came from college before i was a rookie so i was kind of a middle guy between the 18 year old crosby and those other young studs, and then the old guys so i kind of took it as a great opportunity to kind of hang around sidney and to ride his coattails for a while. i hung out with him. on the road in the room i got the remote. i'm the older guy. i don't care who you are, i'm the older guy. showed him the good restaurants on the road. and i heard a story the other day. he was talking about being down in philly and still goes to the same restaurant that he did as a rookie with me that i showed him because i think he scored two goals that game. so he hasn't changed in 15 years or whatever it's been.”
-did he fight you for the remote or was he more of the okay, i'll go and let you have it since you're the old man here?
“yeah, he let me have it. he was very respectful. he was only 18. he was naive to a lot of things still and it was great to show him what pro hockey was all about, the good and the bad and, you know, a couple of things i probably shouldn't have taught him i did. but i think it helped him out. he's done pretty well for himself.”
-what's something you should not have taught him but was something you probably couldn't have avoided at that time in your life? 
“we learned together actually when we emptied the minibar one time in our room when we had the day off the next day. and we were in such a hurry the next morning to leave we forgot to pay the bill. so we leave, and that bill when you don't go and pay for your room bill separately, it gets sent to the gm. back in those days our room was under my name so all of a sudden it wasn't "murley and crosby come see the gm. it was murley, come see the gm" so i had to go in and explain how we had a $186 mini bar bill that night. so we both learned a valuable lesson. make sure you pay your minibar tab before you check out.”
-how much alcohol did you have?
“well, sid was 18 so he didn't have any. the snickers bars and the pringles and stuff. me and a couple of guys were taking down the other stuff.”
-everybody knew what he could be. what was he at that point as an 18-year-old kid?
“i didn't believe it either. this guy? you see him. he's a smaller guy like, what, this guy's going to be the next one? and then i saw him in the first practice. you saw him on the ice it was just something different. the way he skated. he was splitting defensemen which i hadn't seen that happen since peewee. and he's a big reason the game has changed with all the speed and you need these smaller defensemen because he was just flying around everybody. the biggest memory i have of him was his leadership. his leadership at 18 was incredible. as a 26-year-old, he somehow had me where i was almost like answering to him on the ice. i wanted to be my best player around him. he just demanded  - not demanded - he brought the  greatness. he talked about winning  all the time. he knew he was gonna win stanley cups and you didn't want to disappoint him. you wanted to be your best every day for him and get better every day for him. and he's an 18 year old kid. so that was really an amazing leadership skill”
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burningchandelier · 1 year
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Okay, I think I can write about last night's Anthony Green interaction now.
It was amazing and I am still kind of reeling from it.
So, I went to see Saosin, which has been one of my favorite bands for nearly twenty years (holy shit, I'm old as fuck) by myself. Being in Philly, it was a home show, so Anthony's family was there. On the way in, I saw his kids playing in the gated parking lot. It was incredibly sweet. I got an amazing spot, which turned out to have a view of everything. I could see the stage, the backstage doors, the lobby doors, all of it. Shortly before the opener started, Anthony snuck out to check on the lobby and I told him to break a leg. He gave me a really genuine smile and said thank you.
I figured if that was my only interaction, I would be eternally happy and it would be the coolest night I could ask for.
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It got way better!
The show was unbelievable. I cannot even begin to express how good it was. I thought the highlight was going to be hearing some of my favorite songs-- songs that I never thought I would hear live again-- done by musicians who have grown and honed their talent over two decades. Then I thought maybe the best part would be Anthony's genuine and personal anecdotes and love for Philadelphia. I was wrong on both counts.
The best part of the show was, unquestionably, when Anthony's son, James, came out and played Weezer's Sweater Song on drums and the entire audience went completely wild. Every person in the room was scream-singing those lyrics like their lives depended on it. James killed it on the drums. He had it down. He is twelve and he had a whole venue chanting his name. It was awesome!
It is impossible to describe just how emotionally invested everyone in the audience was through the whole show. I can't think of another show I have been to that had so much love through the whole thing.
I got teary over the way that Anthony softly said "you made it" to the crowd surfers who had a rough time getting to the front.
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Okay. So. After the show:
I decided to stick around. I figured that I didn't have anywhere to be, and there were three other very committed fans who were also determined to meet the band, so it was worth it to brave being out to all hours on the street. Why not? (Okay, lots of reasons why not, but whatever).
We waited for a little more than two hours.
After a while, a crew member came over and said that the band had told him to give us their picks. It meant so much. I figured that was our cue and called an uber. ...
And then Anthony came out.
Now, to be fair, he came out because he needed to find a bathroom and the venue was closed. I think this just makes the fact that he stopped to talk with us even nicer.
I got the chance to thank him for being so incredibly kind to me about sixteen years ago when we first met. He gave me some advice about finding a creative community now that I have moved to Philly. I gave him a tip about dealing with allergies from one vocalist to another. We talked about how much it rocks to play music with your family. We complained to each other about an event that is happening later this month that we are both attending, and talked about how neither of us really want to go, but we're going to anyway.
It was a really nice conversation. He went above and beyond.
I was too happy to try to look cool, so here's me smiling a great, big, incredibly dopey smile while he looks like the fucking rock star that he is.
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lizbethborden · 3 months
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did you watch the new abbott ep? thoughts?
I did! I was kind of 50/50 on it. Sorry in advance for rambling LOL
I feel like the double episode format just... Really messed up the pacing. Way too much happened in way too little time, so there was nothing satisfying and the stakes didn't feel very high. I think there were also some big missed opportunities.
"New Ava" gets resolved in like the first 10 min with 0 impact on the overall story or the characters... like why. This should have been dragged out for the whole episode IMO, it would have been so fun. But they just wanted to get it out of the way to race to the Janine-leaving-Abbott story. Also Janelle looked fucking amazing and pretty much stole the episode, so they should have just let her run away with it instead of confining the humor and drama to the very beginning.
"Oh no Janine went to work for the district, oh no Teddie isn't going to happen maybe, omg Janine is working with a new cute guy" doesn't generate any emotional tension because it all gets talked through by the characters in a short time span and Janine and Gregory are friends again by the end of the episode thanks to the timeskip. The will they/won't they was timed really well throughout the first 2 seasons so where is that sense of timing now yk...
Barbara like... did not do much to be honest... She resolved the New Ava problem, but after that mostly stood around and was a sounding board and complained about the district/changed her tune after ONE conversation where Manny said what could reasonably be, pardon me, just bullshit, bc we don't know him well as a character yet, and somehow Barb was like yay :) I like the district now :). She felt really underutilized. She deserves a PLOTLINE this season. I feel like Sheryl gets a lot of praise and attention, but the show doesn't always give her opportunities to match what she really contributes.
The Gary/Melissa situation ground my gears a lot, like it's super great that Melissa stands her ground and rejects him with everyone's support, but tbh "Gary does a massive misogyny using the Philly Eagles and the whole school as a prop" seemed like a moment for Melissa to be angry, not just sad. Like why did she end up comforting HIM? I feel like every time the show brushes up against misogyny something dumb like this happens
Jacob is Jacob and does Jacob things which is fine.
I'm also wondering: where is the charter school storyline??? Have they not been able to get Leslie Odom Jr back? They set him up as a Big Bad and the threat of Abbott being forcibly turned charter as a serious concern and then that completely vanished. Does ABC have some charter school people on its board...? Lol. I would love to find out if maybe Manny and his weirdos could play into this and turn out to be charter school villains but rn this just feels like a major loose end.
It's hard bc I have such a sentimental attachment to the characters and seeing them all back again was so nice. But this felt like a super clumsy start to the season. I'm sure there was a lot of pressure on the writers as well, not just in terms of the double episode format, but because the show has gotten so many awards and so much press, they may have felt they HAD to throw absolutely everything out there to build up the premiere as huge and explosive.
I'm hoping the return to the half hr format will help smooth out a lot of the wrinkles and help bring back some of the structure, because IMO there were definitely hiccups and missteps in past seasons, but you could really feel an underlying story structure for many parts of the show (Teddie, Barb and Janine's relationship, Ava's growth, Melissa and her personal life). Fingers crossed ig
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yourmoonmomma · 9 months
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Happy birthday bby! Hope you enjoyed your day, you totally deserve it!✨️🩷🩷
What have you been doing as of late? Update us👀👀
Thank you so much lovebug!! <333
OKAY OKAY get ready for a lot of short stories about what I've been up to LOL:
Last night Jayson & I got into a fight when I got home after work, because we were supposed to go to the speedway today since they have a monster truck event, and he said not to bother buying him a ticket, since he doesn't want to go even though he knows how excited I am for it. So after our fight about it, I reach out to my friends that are going, and asked where they are sitting, so I can try and get a solo ticket near them. BUT by the time my friends answered, all the tickets were sold out, so I can't go :( Which made me yell at Jayson more lol. I went to the casino to watch Tyler's band play, and hung out with his step-son, Gage, for a while. My friends invited me over to play on their bouncy castle, which I might do tonight after Jayson & I get back from seeing Barbie.
The day before that, so my bday, I didn't do much lol. I napped for most of the day, and only worked like 3 hours max haha. After work, I went to my parents and had dinner with them, and then we went out for ice cream & tried a new ice cream place. It was very yummy. The ice cream place also sells banana milkshakes, which is rare, so I texted Collin to tell him (since he loves banana milkshakes), and then texted Tyler to let him know they have tiger tail ice cream (as that is also somewhat difficult to find). My parents bought me The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo and Oathbringer, which are two books I very much wanted :3 I immediately started Oathbringer lol. Then I came home & fought with Jayson and then felt sad for the rest of the night.
The day before that, so Wednesday, after work I went to Dan & Ally's, as Ally & Mik had a "surprise" planned for me for my birthday. The surprise was decorating the house, as you can see (at least a bit) in my pinned photos. We drank all night long, and did some shrooms, and I got way too drunk lol. I guess Isaac wanted to tattoo "23" on me (which given his 19 tattoo... makes sense), but didn't, for whatever reason. I do not remember any of that though LOL. I didn't fall asleep until like 4am.
Tuesday was a peaceful night. Bought some joints, and went for a walk at sunset to have a smoke. Ended up swinging on a swing set for way too long, it was so much fun omg. I highly recommend!
Monday night I went over to Tyler's after work, and we hung out in his "man cave", trying to find one of those silly hotdog/weiner cooker things to buy. We watched some food show too that he likes, and he was telling me about how he wants to open up a place that only sells philly cheesesteaks (and was quite shocked to hear that I had never tried one). When I got back, I was mad at Jayson again, because he didn't bother asking where I was or why i was out for so long or who I was with.
Last Sunday, Jayson & I went to the beach for the day, and I got very very drunk - I did not realize how much drunker you get in the sun lol. We have a beach tent, so I laid in that for most of the day, as the beach was semi-flooded so the sand was more mud than anything & the water was very cold. I also burnt half of my body (the half that was not quite in the tent). Jayson & I picked up chinese food on the way back in, and then I drunkenly (or exhausted from the heat) passed out on his bed for a couple hours LOL.
And Last Saturday, I impulsively drove almost 2 hours away to go to a bar that Tyler was playing at, and stayed until he left (so like 3am). Drove back in an awful storm, the highway was flooded, and the lightning was literally blinding. Very scary drive, but made it home safe (and so did he). And I had fun! Some boys hit on me at the bar, which was really funny to me. The one was like "come here often?" and i was like "I cannot believe you are trying that line on me". I told him no, through laughter, and that I came to support the band, as I work with the drummer. And his whole attitude changed, which was equally funny to me. He was like "Omg you know the band?! Can you ask them to play more Tragically Hip next time?! Please please please!?! I'll owe you my life!!!" Very funny!
And yea! That's been my week! Tonight we have to start watching Cleo, Jayson's step mom's cat, for the week while his parents are at their cottage. And we are going out for dinner & to see Barbie, like I think I already said.
ANYWAY THATS YOUR UPDATE HAHAHA SORRY IT IS SO LONG what have you been up to?!
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justingrey22 · 1 year
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So I had this dream last night and I have to write it out before I forget everything that happened
In the dream, I was a few hours from where I live, because I had heard that Taylor was going to be in the city for one reason or another. So I went over there just to see if I could just catch a glimpse of her. I think because I've been having a rough time lately, I just wanted to see her to lift my spirits and fill my soul
But I didn't see her from the car, never saw a crowd of paparazzi or fans flocking anywhere, so I parked on the street and got out of the car. I was near a restaurant, but also near this local recording studio. Anyway, I get out of my car, and start walking to the restaurant thinking that if I can't see Taylor at least I can get something to eat. That's when Taylor walks past me, she recognizes me, and she's like "Justin!" She pulls me into the biggest hug as she asks me how I am.
I was flabbergasted, so I just said "Thank you for coming so close to where I live" and she said "Of course, it's so good to see you! It's been since reputation tour, right?" And I said "That's right." So she has a team of like three people with her and she asks them if they mind giving her some space because she wants to talk to me for a bit So obviously I'm freaking out a bit. So I say "Yeah, I tried to get tickets for Eras Tour but I just haven't had any luck" and she looked devastated.
She said "What all did you do?" So I said " tried for 8 hours during presale but never got anything, then I tried to use a friends Capital One card for that presale but I also never got anything. Then I got the second presale code in February but never got anything again. Then I found this twitter called Eras Tour Resell, and they've posted fave value tickets from fans, but l've never been chosen" and she was like "Okay, let's fix this.
You've gone above and beyond to try to get to this tour. Come with me."
She grabs my hand and we start walking to the local recording studio. As we're walking, she says
"Which shows are you able to make it to?" And I said "Pittsburgh is what I signed up for because it's closest, but I lm also trying for Philly, Nashville," and for the life of me in the dream I couldn't remember Atlanta, so when I said I couldn't remember she said "It must be Atlanta, that's closeish to here" so she had my back.
Anyway, we go into the studio, go to a back room, and she goes to this guy at a desk who's name I forgot. She tells me Nashville will be the hardest because it's so full, but that she's gonna figure out something. She talks to him about pulling up Philly, Pittsburgh, Nashville, and Atlanta's stadium rosters, and then she looks to me and says "How many tickets were you trying to get?"
And I said "3" so she tells the guy to find 3 seats together, and a few minutes later, he finds one's in Nashville. So she says "There's 3 together on the floor for the Saturday Nashville show, does that work?" And I said "How much are they? I might be able to make it work depending on the price" and she smiled and said "Don't worry about that." She tells the guy to print the tickets and give them to me, and then she turns to me and says
"He's gonna give you these tickets and you'll be all set to go." And I was like "No, Taylor, I can pay." And she smiled and said "You've paid enough." And she pulls me into a hug and I started crying into her shoulder. When she pulled away, I wiped my face and she said "You have to experience this tour. It's the wildest thing l've ever done, and I need the reaction video from you experiencing it." So it dawned on me that she's watched more of my videos and I said "I'm sorry that I don't like False God" and she busted out laughing and said
"It's okay, honesty is a good thing between us."
Then her mom appeared and said they had a phone call to make, and Andrea waved at me.
Taylor said "I gotta go, but make sure he gets you those tickets and I'll see you in Nashville. That's gonna be a special stop, so be ready." I thanked her profusely, we hugged again, and then a few minutes later we got the tickets from him and someone escorted me out of the studio and I woke up right as I got back in my car and slammed the door shut
@taylorswift It was so refreshing to have this dream last night after feeling so awful lately 💘
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theboardwalkbody · 1 year
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Me, a younger millennial, used to housing prices for a 3bd 1ba 1000sqft house built in the 1950s or earlier and never renovated being a starting minimum of 750,000 dollars: *sees a 4bd, 2ba 1200sqft house with updates and an inground pool listed for 550,000*
My first reaction: omg maybe housing prices are coming down! Maybe I will be able to afford a house one day!
My second reaction: .... Ok what's wrong with it why is it so much less than the average price for the area?
Boomers and older Gen-Xers: HAHA this is a joke, right? 550,000 is way too much for that sized home you have horrible business practices, it'll never sell.
That's how out of touch they are. They're freaking out about a house being listed 200,000 under average for the area and saying it's too much.
It is too much. That price is still too high for that sized home, yes.
But it goes to show that so many of them still think houses are listing at 150,000 to 300,000 because that's what they got THEIR homes for and they never have needed to look for a new place to live at all in the last several years.
My grandma and grandpa purchased the land and built the house on it (the land was put up for collateral). They built a 3bd 1ba ranch style home. It has an unfinished basement, a rough (barely floored) attic, a one car garage, and they added a den on the back off the living room. It's on a quarter acre of property. They spent 20,000.
20,000
Homes in our neighborhood, with all roughly the same attributes, are going for 750,000 to 850,000. Add taxes on that. I'm not good with math but I'm sure you're looking at, if not sightly over, 1mil.
1 million dollars for a house held together with duct tape (I'm not even joking) because it hasn't been kept up with since my grandfather passed away in the 70s. Original outdated layout, original electric (half the rooms only have two prong outlets), original metal plumbing (hopefully not lead but idk what was used in 1958) instead of the now standard PVC, and a bunch of 60yr old tree roots eating into the plumbing outside.
Oh and property taxes? If you wanted to pay less than 15,000 a year in property taxes this isn't the town for you. Because it's a "commuter" town! It's got trains and ferries and buses and two elementary schools and two middle schools and two high schools and it's only an hour from NYC and Philly and Atlantic City and 5 minutes from the beach!
But 15k apparently can't fix the pot holes. It can build a brand new police station and town hall, however! Oh, and it also can't keep the library operating for more than like 6 hours a day in the summer.
We have a bunch of abandoned stores. Most of them food joints/restaurants. But we keep on building banks, for some reason. Every time a bank gets built another retail place (or two mom and pop shops) die.
So 20,000 to 1mil.
How?
And the fun thing? The layout (and 1 bathroom thing) is outdated and no longer functional for the modern family. There's 5 adults living in the house. We're CONSTANTLY fighting for the bathroom. The kitchen is small and if you want to not feel claustrophobic then you can be the ONLY one in the kitchen. Otherwise it's just too tight. We had to swap the dining room and the living room around because the dining room table, made for 6 people, didn't fit in the dining room they had built. My bedroom doubles as an office because there's no space to put it elsewhere, computers didn't exist when the house was designed. The den doubles as my parents' office. The basement is storage AND a pantry because the "pantry" in the kitchen is a foot wide, a foot deep, and 6ft high. It really doesn't fit much. Some of our kitchen cookware is on a shelf in the laundry room because there's not enough cabinet space. The original wall oven is, well, falling out of the wall. The door doesn't shut all the way so heat leaks from it and the cabinet above it is singed from years of heat leakage on to it.
But to update it to be a little more functional? To knock down a wall to make the bedrooms a foot wider and add a bathroom and make the kitchen a little bigger? To bring the plumbing, electric, and heat/AC up to a functional level for 2023?
400,000 dollars.
Which is STILL more than the cost of a whole entire house back when boomers and older genXers bought their homes.
400,000 dollars being half the estimated cost of what the house would sell for.
So it's kinda at a point where they're like, why bother spending that much money and why not just sell it and get something already fixed up?
But who can afford either option?
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popculturebuffet · 3 years
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Purpose (Comission for WeirdKev27
Philli and Zan's Place: Recently Repaired from the Moonvasoin a few weeks back
Philli: I brought your Pizza!
Papa Swans: For When You Need a Pick Me Up
Owlson: Just.. drop it into my mouth
Philli: Okay that was fun the first.. dozen times .. and still is. But you haven't worked since you finished training that nice young moonlander to take your place.
Got them a dog too from one of my rescues. Their a very good boy... it's also their name.
Owlson: (Just takes the bots and eats somberly)
Philli: Okay hun I know it's bad because you didn't even go into a mild rant over two people naming their Dog Good Boy.
Owlson: I don't have it in me. I've lost all purpose. I can't find another corporate sector job. I don't WANT to work for some idiot again, but after a YEAR of my life wasted babysitting that toddler driving a grown man's body that's all people think of me, all they want me to do. I don't have other options.
Philli: Sure you do. Your Zan Owlson. You just need to get out of your rut, get a shower, get out of this house
Owlson: Penthouse
Philli: And get some time to yourself. Well with me because i'm not letting you go.. and not just because I glued my hand to your back.
Owlson: (Casually takes off jacket
Philli: Whelp now I got a jacket hand again. Point is You need a break. Get recentered, and find something NEW to do. Your brilliant baby, you just need some time to recharge.. which I know is hard for you and your work flow had me convinced you were a robot for the first few months we were dating.
Owlson: What
Philli: But you just need to take at least ONE day off to rest instead of going all in or wallowing that that's not working kay? I have some.. business to do in St. Carnard. JUst come with me
Owlson: Isn't that the place from that "Darkwing" show you like that recently has had an unstable lunatic running around like he's the lead character?
Philli: He's not unstable, he just beat me to it. Just go with me okay?
Owlson: Fine
ONE TRIP ACROSS THE BRIDGE LATER:
Owlson: Well the infastructure is .. terrible but your right, I needed the break
Philli: I called it didn't I... (is looking around antisly at the rooftoop)
Owlson:... your "reasons" were wanting to see this weirdo in a mask weren't they.
Philli(wearing her own superhero outfit, The Phiting Philantrophist) : Mayyybe
Darkwing: (From a nearbye alleway) I'm not weird. I am the terror that... hey this is my turp
Philli: Oh i'm just visiting
Darkwing: Then can we team up I haven't gotten to do one of those.
Philli: Didn't you team up with Gizmoduck during the moonvasion?
Darkwing: (Eye twitching) Are you coming or not?
Owlson: Just go darling i'll be fine.
Philli: (smooches her cheek) you da best (Both heroes run off into the night)
Owlson: Okay what to do... (sees a crowd and a pig man at a podium) ohhhh political speech! Don't mind if I do.
Mayor Trumpcard: If elected I will keep things great like my hair,the giant statue of myself, that bridge I never finished, that literal road to nowhere, the zombie graveyard exibit I imported real zombies for that only killed three people last month, a new record low, and my...
Citzen: but what about the levy's? Their bound to break just like birdtowns!
Some Lady: And the schools. Billy brought home a billy club. That's not why I named him billy!
Old Man T-Rex: And what about that mad scientest turning people into dinosaurs!
Dr. Fossil: Yes what about him whose totally not me.. totally...
Yogi Bear: And er what about the hospitals.. the cafteria is attortious! And I don't even live here! I was just transportin a kidney that mysteriously vanished when I dropped it off a building.
Guy Bleeding Out: And I got shot yesterday.. by me but still the fact no one noticed say something about the city
Mayor Trumpcard: Those are excellent questions.. and i'm going to think about them while relaxing in the pool of money i've embezzled from this office. Good day (Runs)
Owlson: That's rediculous, a politician should be about the people. You fix levy's by putting pressure on the city's elitie to donate, I've put pressure on rich people my whole career. You just gotta work at it no matter how much gold or sharks or explosives or ottomans they throw at you!
You fix the schools, and the hosptail and this dinosaur transformatoin informatoin the same way! You work hard, you work deep and you work for your people's best intrests at heart!
Crowd: (Starts chanting) OWL LADY OWL LADY
Owlson: Uh .. it's Owlson.. Zan Owlson.
Crowd: Owlson for mayor owlson for mayor owlson for mayor!
Owlson: But I don't even live here.. but .. Philli HAS wanted to move here.. and ther'es so much I could do. What other problems do you fine people have?
Person: We've got a clown infestation in the road to nowhere... FERAL clowns
Owlson: Simply open up a new circuis, you have the staff you just need someone to run it.
???: Someone poisoned the water suply!
Owlson: Then try and filter fresh water from the ocean.
Can Can: The Ring came off my pudding can
Owlson: Then take my pen knife my good man
Crowd: Owlson owlson owlson
Philli: (Watching from the roofs) I'm proud of you baby (texts her)
Owlson: (reads)
Philli: WE CAN MOVE HERE. YOUR DOING AMAZING SWEETIE TALK TO YOU LATER
Cement Head: You know i'ts rude to text during a battle
Philli: It's rude to steal a bank
Cement Head: (Holding a bank) Touche
Owlson: (Beams proudly purpose found) I'm now announcing my offical canadacy as mayor of st canard
Trumpcard: (Puts mayor sash on her) I concede.. there's no possble way to win as that would require effort but if you want my money back you'll HAVE TO CATCH ME FIRST (books it only to trip and be mobbed by the citzenry)
Owlson and Philli: (Beam at one another, a bright future ahead.
THE BEGINING: .....
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Universal alignment, P1.
Wednesday April 17th, 2019 - 6:45 pm  Self reflecting. At that exact moment I was thinking to myself of how grateful and blessed I was. I felt the feeling of pure happiness. Mind clear, vision clear, world around me so bright and vivid. So pure. So cleansed. I felt so whole again. To love yourself is the toughest battle. I’m becoming a soldier to my own thoughts. Each and every day is a blessing. I feel so aligned and it allows me to flow freely. Mentally, its been good. Now what I am about to share is going to be one of the most cherished moments I will never forget. 
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6:57 pm
Where I am located is this tiny lil path that is directly behind my apartments and it leads to this reserve that a lady by the name of Pamela Callahan fought to keep. She fought to keep it just as it is and it is such a nice area to go to and breathe.*inhales, exhales* She created a space for us to roam and think freely. 
A guy with a backpack (& two Games blunt packs on the side) walks past me as I’m sitting on the Pam stone. REAL TALK - dude scared the shit outta me. Like legit had me ready to do that SOS shit on my phone scared me. I saw and felt his ora. Weird to some, but it was the first time I ever clearly saw somebodies ora. Bright as day, vivid like. There is a lil buddha guy that is buried deep in the cuts of the bushes, so I asked him instantly “Do you know what that buddha represents in the back?” AN INSTANT VIBE --  He described a different buddha that I didn't see. So I show him the buddha my friend discovered and he instantly lit up even brighter. We started talking about the land - he describes the story of the lady who fought for it and how she did it for us. Us, souls out here trying to find direction. That area was my spot to think freely. Roam freely in my head and start thinking about everything I wanna do in life. Plan my future of success. Here another soul out here, to roam freely. Also to catch a PokemanGo gym. 
Jay. aka Philly, 31. “Im the biggest kid you’ll ever know” 
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Just like that, we sitting there talking about our lives. He got a girlfriend, who, btw is fine as fuck, & they live in the apartments next to mine. He hates his current job, so he went out looking for a new one and caught an interview. Its even for a better position, better pay. I know you got it bro. Sending you those good energies. Its yours. Which brings me to the reason I am writing this piece... He’s a christian. Believes in only God. I also believe in God, but I also believe in Angels and Energies especially from the universe. He met recently somebody else who believes in what I believe in expect not a firm believer in God. He believes she believed energy is God, not a person. Which is cool, I’m never here to bash anyone or their beliefs. So as we are talking, spiritually, I am feeling a sense of pure happiness. Jay was so opened minded into what I believed in, no judgement. Appreciated the words I shared, and how I felt.... Immediately  I see in a distance a lil beam of light shining through clouds. That was my sign. That was my signal that I am on the right path. My social anxiety is no longer serving me. I was able to completely open up about myself to a complete stranger, but in a good way. I was able to shed some positivity to his day, share my experience with someone. The realization of the power I hold just by listening to someone,  and to send back good vibes, wish nothing but goodness upon someone I have never met. Be able to just fuel the positivity out. Be me.That shit felt fucking good.
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As we were leaving, he said “Yo, you have such good positive energy, you gonna be famous one day” Humble as can be, “I only want to make a difference.” As I start to plan my next few months to prepare my move for Vegas, this energy I have right now - this mindset is only going to get stronger. My photos.... are only going to get better. The knowledge I seek is only going to make me smarter. I will only surround myself with energy that will fuel me. Meeting a complete stranger, at that very moment was the absolute most needed. It was MY reminder that I am good. I am doing exactly what I need to be doing. My goals and dreams are at arms length. And every person I encounter will grow, nourish into what they sought out to see themselves as. I believe IN you💫
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Monday | Feb 15, 2022
Another fucking wild week to recap. Want to write this all down while I still remember some of it.
Monday 2/7/22 Today's the first day after I really realize that I seriously need to actually give myself space away from Ha. Anna's talk with me made me realize that I had really been complacent about my personal life since everything felt back to normal. I went back in my chat logs with Ha to look at what happened throughout the week for my last Tumblr post and remembered that her class registration was this morning. I wanted to tell her on Sunday but figured maybe I'd be overstepping another boundary... And maybe she remembered and didn't need me to say something. But in the end I kept feeling paranoid that if I didn't say anything and she did forget then I could've prevented everything by just saying something. I messaged her while I waited for the bus and... she did forget. Completely. Haha. She missed one honors seminar about movie soundtracks she wanted to get into but got on the waitlist for it instead. I hope she gets in it but we'll see. I suggested taking elementary Chinese instead... Mostly out of selfish reasons, but she said she was considering it herself, too. Being self-centered I couldn't help but think it was because of me... But I mean there is a good chance she wants to learn it for herself, too... She's into Chinese related shit.. I really did want her to take Chinese though... It's fun imagining her coming to me to practice and whatnot. Anyway we stopped talking once I got to school and didn't talk again until after she had her talk with Amanda at night. Apparently Ha made a comparison of being with me like being a drug addict, and that you need to want to seek help in order to be helped.
"instead of going cold turkey like she had probably expected us to do since the start, it took smaller steps like not meeting in person, not attaching a romantic tone, to not vc-ing, to maybe get to the point of not communicating as frequently in general..."
[Looking back at this now, I don't even remember reading the part about not communicating as frequently in general. To be honest, thinking about that possibility still hurts. And if I'm completely honest, we're still talking a good amount. No voice chats and mostly no romantic context... Just really friendly things I suppose. But we do talk a lot still.]
Tuesday 2/8/22 I found really cool Hades Wallpaper Engine wallpapers and had to show Ha. We ended up talking about the characters and this Twitter thread about your Hades crush says about you. Then we started talking about baby names and how all of hers were weird old people names. Clinic was relatively good. Finished more occlusal restorations and got rid of an annoying patient. Talked to Ha about her teacher friends. Apparently one of them does/used to give ghost tours in Philly. Ha asked me if I was interested. It's a nice feeling to be thought of. It's nice to know she thinks about me as much as I think about her.
Wednesday 2/9/22 Had to go to school early for seminar. It was virtual but I had to attend at school because of my PennSmiles rotation at 9. Got home really early and had the urge to play Hades. It feels wrong not playing Hades without Ha watching. It's because it's so fun to think about how she would react... or what she would say... And when interesting lore comes up I know she would want to read it too, and I want to share it with her. Is that unhealthy? Wanting to share an experience with her? Not enjoying it as much when she's not there? I mean yeah, I can play Hades without her watching and still have fun... But I would think about what she would say and want to tell her all about it anyway... So it's just easier if she can read it herself instead of me telling her... Making dinner with Anna is really nice though. It's nice to have another person to have idea inputs.. Another person to rely on besides yourself. Could this be a crutch I use because I'm indecisive? I do like to rely on other people to make decisions... Could that be a way that I avoid responsibility as well? I think I do have a problem with that, and that it's been a recurring thing since I was a kid. If I don't make the choice -> I can't be responsible for it. And maybe that's why it feels so horrible when I'm the bad guy for choices that I have made. They don't feel like things that I consciously did... And yet, they are. Maybe that's a sign that I'm just bad at taking responsibility? That I can convince myself that these weren't a series of conscious bad choices and instead me getting swept away and going with the flow? Anyway we ate baked potatoes and chicken thighs for dinner. After dinner we sat on my bed and I studied while she was on her phone. I saw a post on Reddit about a 1-bedroom in the Academy of the Arts building and looked into it. With the topic of moving brought up, Anna asked if I thought we would never see each other again. Even just thinking about it now makes me cry. I think realizing that moving out and not seeing each other by default anymore made me realize the gravity of my choices and decisions. I would really not be with Anna at all anymore. Or if I wanted to, I would have to make deliberate decisions to see her again. The idea freaks me the fuck out. She went to her room and I ended up sobbing. She heard me and came into my room and wiped my tears with a tissue. She asked me if I wanted her to sleep with me because she didn't want to leave me while I was in this state. I told her it was okay, and it was, I think I just wanted to cry myself to sleep. And so I did.
Thursday 2/10/22 Amazing how you can wake up and your life just kind of explodes a little. Woke up to a completely bricked phone, and thankfully some deity was looking out for me at least a little by allowing me to naturally wake up at 6:22am so that I could still have time to make it to my exam. And of course the phone wasn't bad enough, but I had to somehow throw my phone case into another dimension, along with my only functioning credit card and my driver's license. Made it home with enormous help from Anna... She was incredibly supportive and honestly I would have crashed and burned without her. She called me on Facebook Messenger before I left to make sure I was okay - which I wasn't - and helped me come up with a game plan on how to get home. She was there for me every step of the way. When I got home my parents had my back. My dad immediately offered to buy me a new phone. I got the Pixel 6 later that evening. Insane how lucky I am. Realized that I had lost all of the photos in my locked folder on my old phone and felt pretty fucking sad about it. Karma? Healthy reset? A sign from God? Not sure. Ha sent me whatever she still had though, which thankfully was most of it. Went to Costco later that night with my parents and told my mom what happened with Anna. She was incredulous at first... With the classic invalidating oh my god's and whatnot. I told her I felt so shitty that I wanted to kill myself. When we got home we had a long talk where she said she would support me no matter what and that things aren't the end of the world. She said if I was truly depressed then I should go to therapy. She said I had thrown away such a long relationship for a girl I had just met, and that I needed to think about decisions because some decisions can't be taken back after they're made. She said she really liked Anna but she did agree that her parents weren't fair to me. She said I need time and space to make a true decision, but that she was there for me. It was what I wanted to hear from her. I just sat there sobbing and then hugged her afterwards. Ha told me about a clothing swap she went to at Drexel. She said she impulse grabbed me a shirt because she thought it might look good on me... It was a grey henley. It was just really touching that she was thinking about me... Saw a shirt and thought about me... Thought about me wearing the shirt... Took it for me. Idk. What love language is this. Gift-giving?
Friday 2/11/22 Ha told me she had a dream involving me. I asked her if it was good or bad and she said good. I asked if it was good or really good and she said really good. Welp. She had a sex dream. I think. She didn't tell me any details of course but. It made me think about her. A lot. I was definitely hornier than normal, probably because I usually am right before my period... And so I looked at a lot of her nudes and came more than once. I think a lot about our sexual encounters and the feeling of her skin. We actually barely talked during the day... Of course I missed her a lot and wanted to message her but, I tried to be strong. I was surprised she wasn't messaging me either. It made me kind of sad but I guess this was for the best so I don't know what I was expecting either way. I did have a nice day though. Went for a walk with my parents and Annie, and then had lunch with Shirley. Procrastinated a lot during the afternoon but it was nice. In the end I sent her a screenshot of my new phone background... I guess I caved. Found out she had been watching a lot of movies throughout the day. I gave her the detailed version of my day. Sometimes during the day I find myself wanting to share what happened with Ha to see what she would say... Or maybe I just like to share? I'm not sure. But I know I specifically like to share it with Ha because I liked to see her reactions. I was really bored so we ended up doing some crosswords together. Would have been better with voice chat of course... But maybe even doing this together is a line crossed. Sigh. Also saw an ad for an upcoming Fleet Foxes concert for their 2021 album "Shore". Told Ha and we talked a lot about concerts and bands and whatnot. I told her if I bought tickets I was making her come with me. It was nice to think about a date in the future that we would be able to be together again. Listened to the album and actually really enjoyed it. She said she liked it too. It felt nice that she actually gave it a real shot and it seemed like she genuinely liked it...
Saturday 2/12/22 Listened to "Shore" more while going on a walk in Oak Ridge with my parents. I felt really happy in that moment... Listening to music that felt like it was the right time in my life to listen to... Enjoying the breeze and sunshine with my parents and Annie. I told Ha that my favorite song on the album was "Sunblind" and that it felt like warm sunshine on your body and made me want to skip around in a grassy field. She sent me one of her diary entries and it made me tear up.
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I missed her so much in that moment. I got Mexican food with my parents for lunch and had the self realization that I may be similar to a tsundere haha. Was actually in an incredible mood during the afternoon. Not sure what triggered it... Gratefulness? I felt loved and supported by my parents.
Sunday 2/13/22 It was snowing throughout the morning. My parents drove me back later in the day after the snow had settled.
Monday 2/14/22 Anna surprised me by coming to West Philly to pick me up from school. I felt touched, but a tinge skeptical inside as well. I don't know what I wanted from her to be honest. When I think about the times I would tell her how I felt like I was the only putting serious effort into surprising her, or putting her in the forefront, she would apologize of course and put a little more effort in once or twice, and that would be it. Or maybe she did put more conscious effort into it and I was the one who didn't notice? I don't even know anymore. Maybe I only think about myself which is why it seems like I'm the only one doing all the thinking and surprising, when in reality maybe she did more as well and I just never appreciated it enough. We went to Acme to buy ingredients to cook pasta. During the bus ride home my mom called me and basically told me that she was incredibly upset (as was my dad) and that if I ever dated Ha, she would never accept her. It made me so angry in the moment I definitely reacted emotionally. I felt anger because she didn't know Ha at all. I felt anger because if Ha's a terrible person that can be written off with this mistake, what am I? It made me feel helpless, like I threw my life away for a girl that my parents would now never accept. It felt ironic because one of the main issues I had with Anna was that her parents would never accept me. I still feel angry thinking about me. My sister called me days later to talk about it and she basically only sided with my mom. I understand where they're coming from. I need to understand. The only thing they know about Ha is that she became involved with me even though she knew about me being in a relationship. They're angry at me for doing something so horrible to a girl that they all love. They're angry because I built something for so long with a girl they love and then I blew it all up with a girl they don't know. I shouldn't be thinking about dating anyone for awhile. I should learn how to live for myself. I will live for myself. And my family.
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dreamculture · 7 years
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Interview with Slow Caves.
What's your favorite thing about tour?
Jakob: These days I like being on tour more than I like regular life because I feel like when I'm on tour I'm more structured. Like with my suitcase, I really like packing things in the morning. I don't know that gives me a lot... so much joy. Then when I come home I feel like I have noting to do especially now that it's summer vacation. I get like really depressed. So I think tour physically gives you happiness. Like packing the van, packing your stuff everyday. Besides going to new cities everyday like obviously that's amazing but like that's what I'm missing the most. That's what I'm excited for.
David: My favorite thing is hanging out with these guys everyday. Things that happen and like inside jokes. Stuff that we would never get to experience if we were all just working day jobs and doing stuff like that. Yeah that's what I like.
Oliver: Um what I love about tour is sort of the escapism as far as the personality. We all sort of become very different people along the rode and we're crude, and we are obnoxious. We are laughing all the time and we are always eating junk food, maybe drinking too much at times.
David: McDonald's
(A friend brings up chips and cookies on pizza. Something Oliver recently tried)
David: Yeah could you explain that to us real quick?
Oliver: Uhhhh I will explain it. It was delicious and uh that's all I really have to say about that. But I love that about tour. When I come back I have a hard time readjusting to everyday life and I'll say really stupid stuff that I would say on tour to co-workers and I'm like nope that's not a thing people actually say It's just we've been saying that for two weeks to each other but that's fine. Yeah I don't know seeing these guys twice a week doesn't really help me come back from that so every time we go on tour and come back a part of you that you were before tour... dies. A new part of you is born and slowly you just become the worst person.
Jakob: One other thing that is really sick is that we play with bands that we don't know or bands that we really like. This last tour we played with a band called White Reaper. They are one our favorite bands right now. Not just because we played with them but because It was really sick playing with a band that we loved.
Who are some of your musical inspirations?
A Friend: Beach Boys?
Jakob: Oh yeah!
Oliver: Can we do a top five is that allowed?
Me: Yeah do whatever you want.
Jakob: Um... okay so Beach Boys songwriting wise, guitar wise Johnny Marr. He's probably the guitar played that influences me most. From The Smiths I love The Smiths. Um... uh The Strokes, Grouplove. Is that four or five?
David: I don't know.
Jakob: Beach Boys, The Smiths, what did I say? The Strokes, Grouplove, and The Cri... wait uh that's my answer.
David: Alright you go Oliver.
Oliver: Alright for me it's gonna be John Frusciante for sure, Um Julian Casablancas from The Strokes, The Cribs, um maybe Nirvana?
Jakob: Oh!!! (As he's wearing a Nirvana shirt) I also got another one.
David: Loser!
Oliver: I got one more right?
David: You can take some of mine.
Oliver: What do I choose for number five? Skaters for sure yeah they're a huge influence. They're amazing. They have this way with chords and with melody and with lyrics. It's so effortless but at the same time... I don't know... never boring.
Jakob: Their new record is insane. There's Jackson.
Jackson: What's going on here?
David: This is weird man.
Oliver: We are listing our top five influences.
Jackson: Top five influences... Jakob, Oliver, David, My Mom, and Trevor.
(We gave Jackson a bracelet we made him since he was gone the last time we saw them.)
Jackson: Thank you much appreciated.
A Friend: It might fall apart I'm nor sure.
(It starts to fall apart)
David: That happened to mine but I still have it. I was playing the whole time and it just slipped off. I still have it I just still haven't fixed it yet.
Jakob: I haven't even taken mine off.
Me: David do you have any?
David: Yeah okay mine are The Strokes, Arctic Monkeys, um right now this band called Hoops. They're my favorite guitar sounding band right now. Um... another one I like is Windy and Unknown Mortal Orchestra. So those aren't like necessarily my main influences but like right now that's what I like to listen to.
Oliver: Can I just add Guided By Voices and the new Beach Fossils album.
Jakob: Are you going to that? (Beach Fossils show)
Me: Yeah!
Oliver: I'm probably going to go. Should I just buy one right now?
David: Buy one right now.
What was the best show you've ever played?
Oliver: Redrocks.
David: That was really cool.
Jakob: That was insane. It was such a moment.
Oliver: I think about our lives before Redrocks and after Redrocks.
Jakob: BRR and ARR.
Oliver: Or you could say post Redrocks and past Redrocks. That's PRR and PRR. That doesn't work. Let's clear it up it's too confusing.
Any funny band stories?
David: Oh god.
Oliver: Oh funny stories from Slow Caves. One time Jakob... it was our last night on tour and Jakob was putting the furniture from the hotel in the van like as we were trying leave.
David: It was hilarious.
Oliver: He took the lampshade off and put a chair in there and was trying to like take the TV out. It was so funny. He was trying to take the bed off.
Jakob: I totally did that.
Oliver: It was like two am in the morning we had to go.
David: Like what are you doing dude put that stuff down!
Oliver: Yeah that's probably my favorite story.
Jakob: I feel like we should each have one.
David: I don't know.
Oliver: What about that time you and Jackson almost got arrested?
Jakob: Ohhh! okay alright so we were in Philly and we were playing this like DIY show. It was supposed to be a house show but it was a DIY show and um since it was a DIY show it was really loud. The cops came and we were skateboarding out front... okay we were trying to skate off of our van and because the cops didn't know that it was our van they assumed we were just some hoodlums in Philly skating off someone's van. The reason I started off saying it was DIY show is because I guess cops know that space like they're frequent in that area a lot. But the cops were understanding. We talked to them a little bit. They were cool. It was sketchy. Philly was really janky.
Where's one place you would like to play a show?
Oliver: I'm sorry what was the question?
David: I wanna play in Wisconsin for some reason. I don't know why. I just have that image in my mind of playing in Wisconsin. Get really good burgers and cheese curds. I don't that's just where I want to play.
Jakob: I'm gonna say one for Jackson and one for myself cause I can't decide.(Jackson left awhile ago during the interview)So there's a festival in Denmark. It's a legendary festival. We've been there a few times. We saw The Strokes and Arctic Monkeys play back to back. Most insane night of our lives. It would mean a lot to our family if we played that festival. Also, I really wanna play shows in the UK because if the crowd is into it they jump to like the beat.. what you guys do you know! So I wanna play somewhere in the UK, A big festival in the UK.
Oliver: I misunderstood the question I thought it was somewhere we like to play not would like to play. Um I would say The Ogden. (A friend was talking about how big their band is getting) I know I feel like we skipped a few steps there. We played sold out Lost Lake almost.
Jakob: No it was.
Oliver: So we played sold out Lost Lake and the next show was Redrocks.
Jakob: It's such a huge thing.
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