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terapsina · 5 months

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Kathryn Janeway/Chakotay. Post-Voyager, return home. (If you’ve seen Prodigy pre-Prodigy before Chakotay receives his commission as Captain. If you’re up to it, lightly touching on the Chakotay and Seven of it all? Seven might have left for the Rangers at this point. It’s alright if that’s too much of a prompt!)

(okay, this will take place closer to Post-Voyager era than Pre-Prodigy era but does take place inside that frame of time. Also, I couldn't find any specific dates about when exactly Seven joined the Rangers so let's just assume here that it happened pretty soon after they returned home (for various reasons but mostly because I think Seven would have grown restless pretty quickly and also because I just can't imagine she and Chakotay lasted very long at all)).

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Chakotay and Kathryn were fine.

Completely fine. In comparison to the seven years aboard Voyager where they stayed at the constant edge of destruction, with the threat of losing all the souls aboard the ship that they were responsible for constantly biting at their heels, they were more than fine now.

They met for weekly dinners. They no longer argued because of the stress of their positions; because all they'd sacrificed of themselves had hollowed them out into a Captain and a First Officer and very little else. The frost that had grown in the cracks of their friendship had thawed during this past year home. They were sharing jokes again and enjoyed perfectly pleasant conversations in each other's company.

They discussed how their weeks had gone; and how Kathryn and him were adjusting to being home again. They talked about their sisters and shared whatever news they'd heard from the crew lately. Talked about the latest antics of Kathryn's two dogs - both the grand-pups of the Irish Setter she'd left behind on Earth when she'd been ordered to capture Chakotay an eternity ago. Mollie herself had lived only two months past the Voyager's return, Chakotay's heart still twinged remembering the way Kathryn had tried to keep up a strong face when she'd told him about the dog's passing.

They were fine. Really, they were better than they'd been in a really long time now.

Chakotay should have been happy about it, - and admittedly there was the relief that he hadn't lost Kathryn entirely. Their return to the Alpha Quadrant had given him his best friend back and...

...and Chakotay was miserable.

"You remember I told you how the voice reader for the replicator broke last week and I had to put it on manual? Well, Faba figured out this morning how to make the cursed thing spit out the last meal programmed in there, when I got home from Starfleet Command the entire kitchen floor was covered in dog food. You can't imagine the guilty looks on her and Capulus when they saw me." Kathryn's eyes danced with amusement as she took a sip of wine from her glass.

Chakotay's own lips pulled up at the corners, the initial moment entirely genuine because when Kathryn Janeway smiled the entire room brightened.

But the smile fell away a moment too quickly and ever observant, Kathryn noticed. "I'm sorry, Chakotay, I'm hogging the conversation this evening. You seem to have something on your mind?"

"No," he said, forcing forward another smile, hoping this one would better disguise his melancholy mood. "It's simply been a long week, I'm just tired, I think."

He saw Kathryn's eyes go to the timepiece hanging on the wall behind him and cursed himself for the chosen excuse. He didn't intend to make her think he was too tired for her company.

"It is getting late, I suppose I'll see you next week. Same time? Or do you have plans?" At the beginning of their post-return dinners, Chakotay had tried to read some kind of tightness in Kathryn's voice when she asked about his plans. Selfishly hoping for a sign that their implied existence might bother her, that there still existed traces of the feelings that years ago he'd been certain were there. But there was never anything except polite curiosity.

He was starting to suspect that whatever potential had been there had been destroyed by his stupidity and the very badly timed mid-life crisis that had tripped him just before the finish line.

"No plans," he told her and did his very best not to inquire after her own. He knew his question would be full of the unvoiced things lacking in hers.

"Speaking of, have you heard from Seven recently? She's been hard to get a hold of since she joined the Fenris Rangers."

"No," he said, avoiding Kathryn's eyes as he always did whenever she mentioned Seven of Nine now. He wished she'd stop. Or that she'd finally address the splinter he'd seen her ignoring for eleven months now. When Chakotay had told her that he and Seven had parted ways barely weeks after landing on Earth, she'd inquired if he was okay and revealed not a hint of emotion more. Not anger. Not relief. Not disappointment. Nothing. He might as well have been Harry Kim telling her how he'd broken up with one of the Delaney twins again. "But B'Elanna mentioned receiving a subspace message from her a few weeks ago so I wouldn't send out any alarms yet."

"Good." Kathryn smiled again, swallowing another deeper mouthful of the wine Chakotay had brought over earlier, and finishing the glass.

She wasn't as careful as usual though - being out of uniform and off the deck of the Voyager had made her freer in a number of tiny ways - and his eyes trailed a tiny spill of red as it escaped the corner of Kathryn's mouth and slid over her chin before gliding slowly down her neck.

Heat sliced clean through his lower stomach as he hastily averted his eyes, this time to hide the hunger that had no doubt visibly flashed across his face. Chakotay sent a silent thank you to the spirits of his ancestors for her eyes having remained closed while she enjoyed the last sip.

Maybe he really should start getting ready to leave.

Candlelight, wine, and Kathryn were not a combination that inspired all that much sanity in Chakotay. He'd thought he'd developed at least a partial immunity in the later years of their journey, as that brightly burning hope he'd cradled in his heart had eventually begun to be smothered by the innumerable trials and tribulations; by the thousand small cuts and steadily growing walls.

Of course, he'd pretty much found out exactly how wrong he was on that point the first time he'd seen her after the former members of the Maquis had received their official pardons from the Federation. When the entire crew had shown up to celebrate and he'd looked across the ballroom someone - probably Paris - had reserved for the event, when for the first time in years had seen Kathryn instead of Captain Janeway.

She'd been wearing a dark red dress that had hugged her front nearly like a second skin and let only air touch half her back. The dress had been tasteful and elegant of course, as anything Kathryn wore always was but Chakotay had known he was fucked the moment his eyes had landed on her. The feeling was yet to leave.

"Next week, then." He confirmed.

"Goodnight, Chakotay," Kathryn said and walked around the dinner table to give him a brief hug and a kiss on his cheek. His eyes slid closed at the singing sensation of her lips against his skin.

Right, that. If ever someone tried to convince him this woman didn't have a cruel bone in her body he might just have to point and laugh. Hysterically.

He opened his mouth to return the goodnight when something that had been steadily straining and stretching for months and months finally snapped.

"Are you ever going to forgive me, Kathryn?" he asked, exhaustion heavy in his voice and eyes still closed. He wasn't sure he could bear seeing her face if he was really starting this conversation.

"What?"

"I promised something to you once, and broke it just before it would have finally been time to fulfill it."

"You never promised me anything." And finally, he heard the tightness in Kathryn's voice he'd been looking for.

He opened his eyes and looked at her, letting her see all the things he'd shielded from her in the Delta Quadrant when showing them would have left his Captain bleeding.

"I did and you know I did, Kathryn. Never aloud because it would have hurt you to hear it. But we both knew."

And finally, finally, anger flashed like lightning in Kathryn's eyes.

"Why did it have to be Seven, Chakotay?"

"I don't know." And he didn't know. He'd asked himself that question a hundred times and never found a good answer. Not one that put him in any kind of good light anyway.

Male ego. Because a part of him had known that it would be the one way he'd actually be able to hurt Kathryn the way she'd been hurting him for years by then. Because he thought he couldn't hurt Kathryn at all and had to finally prove it to himself somehow. Because Seven had shown interest, and he'd been so very tired, and it could have been anyone at all. Because he'd been losing hope.

He didn't know.

"We were supposed to return to Earth together. You were supposed to be right beside me. It was supposed to--"

"I know. I'm sorry, Kathryn," Chakotay whispered and dared to wipe an angry tear from her face.

"And it's not like I had any right to feel--"

He smiled thinly. "And when I found you on Quarra I had no right to want to cave in Jaffen's face. Or that Irish hologram's. Or Q's."

And oh, how Chakotay had wanted to.

"I--" she looked startled like she hadn't suspected any of that. There was something nearly impressive about that, the crew certainly seemed to have steered clear of Chakotay for a solid week after every event where their captain had gotten courted by one alien or another.

Well, steered clear by everyone except Paris and Tuvok. And B'Elanna. But Paris had long since proven himself to be just a bit suicidal to a degree that had eventually earned him Chakotay's respect. And Tuvok was... well, Tuvok.

And B'Elanna just didn't count.

"I had no right. You had no right. But it hurt me, and then I hurt you. And I need to know if you're going to forgive me. Because it still hurts, Kathryn." He cupped the side of her face, barely letting his fingers graze her skin. "You're my best friend. And my partner for eight years now. And you're always going to be the love of my life. I will accept whatever answer you give me, even if you tell me that there's a part of you that's going to hate me forever. But please, Kathryn, I need to know."

Finished, Chakotay fell silent.

Kathryn stared at him with angry, anguished eyes. Then she closed them and Chakotay had to force himself not to shudder.

He could take whatever blow she threw. He'd survive it. Not entirely whole, maybe, but he would survive.

"There is an ancient legend among my people," she said, nearly entirely under her breath but Chakotay still felt the universe come to a stop; could feel the Earth itself halt in its spin. "It is about a Lonely Sea Captain who had lost her way in a storm, and to bring her people home she made a deal with the gods. She locked her heart in a wooden chest and promised them she would not open it until they reached shore. But there was a Brave Warrior aboard her ship too, who worried that without any heart at all the Lonely Sea Captain would be lost - and he was right, she would have been - so he gave her his heart to carry while her own was locked away. She wasn't always kind to that gifted heart, wasn't always careful with it, - and sometimes, sometimes she was afraid she'd lost it - but it gave her strength, and it gave her hope, and it brought her home."

"Is there really an ancient legend?" he whispered, barely daring to breathe. Caught in her gaze like a fly in a spider-silk web.

"No." Another tear began to slide down Kathryn's cheek. "But that made it easier to say."

Chakotay leaned forward and kissed that precious pearl of salt from her cheek.

"The Captain never lost her Warrior's heart," he assured her softly and waited patiently with his lips pressed into her cheek until she moved her head and kissed him.

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(fun fact: Capulus is Latin for Coffee and Faba is Latin for Bean).

#janeway x chakotay #chakotay x janeway #kathryn janeway #chakotay #star trek #voyager #voyager fic #star trek fic #fanfic #otp: the captain and the warrior #isagrimorie #prompts

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trillscienceofficer · 5 months

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“#robert doherty sure loved a good seven has difficult emotions episode”

I didn’t know he was part of the writing team on Voyager!

Looking through his writing credits, I like most that he writes for Seven.

honestly I hadn't realized Doherty had been in the Voyager writing room either until I got to the end of my Elementary rewatch. (For context, Robert Doherty is the creator of Elementary). I assumed all the Trek jokes were because of Robert Hewitt Wolfe, who also produced and wrote a considerable amount of DS9 and Elementary episodes. But no, at this point I think that the easter egg of naming very secondary characters on Elementary after Voyager actors (it's a thing that happens a lot in the early seasons) was due to Doherty's past association with the show.

Doherty's credits on Voyager are interesting, if a bit hit and miss. For example, “Imperfection” is a bit too melodramatic as an episode imho, and “Repentance” (which he didn't write alone) and “Q2” are a mess, but he still authored a lot of my favorite parts of Seven's characterization, especially themes about guilt and responsibility that Seven has to confront about her actions as a drone. He wrote “Bliss” and “Tsunkatse”, for example, and the salvageable moments of “Repentance” are a good segue of the latter.

I can now see an interesting continuity between the way Doherty wrote Seven and his take on Sherlock Holmes, who is definitely riddled with the same kind of guilt Seven is, having done terrible things when he wasn't in control of himself. I have no idea if it was on purpose, but imho there is a connection. Holmes is already at the part where that guilt has turned into a moral imperative to right the wrongs he sees in the world, often breaking the rules in doing so. I don't think it's a stretch to imagine that Doherty wanted to suggest a similar trajectory for Seven. (It's interesting that Seven also got there, eventually, on Star Trek: Picard.)

Most of all I have to admit I like the way Doherty approaches smart, abrasive characters! Or at least how he wrote both Seven and Sherlock Holmes—I think he nailed the mix of smartassery and vulnerability for both of them. Obviously neither Voyager nor Elementary are perfect shows (far from it), but it was interesting to me to find this bit of connection between them.

ETA Robert Doherty also co-wrote the teleplay of “Endgame” for which I have a warmer opinion than most Voyager fans—and I probably still like it better than the S7 finale of Elementary lmao

#askbox #isagrimorie #voy #seven of nine

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curator-on-ao3 · 1 month

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"#also katrina cornwell is alive#and so is hugh borg"

katrina dying was so lazy, and so was hugh, especially hugh, who died of a throat cut???

when if he's like seven, he should be swimming in nanoprobes, and he died in a borg cube too! (my headcanon is that once seven took over, somehow the nanoprobes woke up and saved hugh, especially since his death wasn't even 24 hours).

shax rule fully enabled.

👆👆👆

All of this.

I don’t buy Hugh’s death because the Borg canon doesn’t track — and I don’t buy Cornwell’s death because I may have never been in a spaceship but I do know how doors work (and how any space program should continually improve doors and hatches, as shown by Apollo 1). The fact that the actors sat around talking though it all to try to make sense of her death makes it even sadder, in a way. People on set knew it didn’t make sense.

So, yeah, nice to apply Shax Rule with you here, @isagrimorie. ❤️🦾🚪

#i love asks #sometimes canon is just stupid #it exists #but it’s dumb #and sometimes canon gives the gift of the shax rule #which is excellent #as is #isagrimorie

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explosionshark · 11 months

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For the meme: Buffy/Faith!

(you followed up with the prompt "anniversary" so!)

In the dark and quiet afterwards, with Faith's warm body splayed over hers, skin to skin, blood still thrumming through her ears, Buffy does the math in her head.

"Faith," she mumbles into the mop of dark brown curls tucked under her chin, "did you know that in a month it will have been six years since you first came to Sunnydale?"

The deep, even breaths over her sweat-cooled skin tell Buffy that Faith hasn't heard and it's just as well; Buffy can remind her in the morning.

send me a ship + prompt and I’ll write a three sentence fic

#replies #isagrimorie #fuffy #i forgot how fucking hard this was to do actually lmao #REALLY. STRETCHING THOSE SENTENCES FOR ALL THEY'RE WORTH #bodlang compliant!!!!

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evviejo · 26 days

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I follow you for your awesome Seven of Nine gifs and Thirteenth Doctor gifs! And that you also support Star Trek Legacy show!

thanks! and how could i not support legacy?? it NEEDS to happen!

#isagrimorie #asks

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lovecanbesostrange · 8 months

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"#(also B'Elanna honey remember that technically you and Janeway and Tuvok are xBs" I keep wanting to forget that happened. And how easy they just removed the implants. Although I wish Seven got to talk to Tuvok more about that experience since he had the hardest time. #SevenTuvokBestFriend Agenda

I like that it happened. *Unimatrix Zero* was so batshit crazy on all fronts. Getting assimilated as part of the plan, relying on some fun neuro-whatever inhibitor? Hilarious. BUT it needed to have dire consequences. Something lasting. That moment when Tuvok hears the Collective and gets distracted? Fantastic. More! MORE! MAKE THEM SUFFER!

I need a better balance. I definitely want my Trek to be mostly stand-alone episodes. No season long arcs (especially not the-universe-will-explode-type-of-stuff). BUT give me constant development, build it up, make it connect more. It's VOY's biggest failing, it needed to be more like DS9 in that specific regard. Oh, I could write essays. I love the ship lost in the Delta Quadrant with all my heart and damn can I agonize about the wasted potential.

Janeway infiltrating/robbing the Borg was a fun hobby. Got really good at it. The escalation though. Ahahahahahaha. Because we didn't get to see a few lasting effects it minimized the trauma in the worst way. I like that we had the Borg kids, Icheb & Co. And it was handled well - within the format of the show - that they hadn't been with the Collective that long, still maturing, easier to get out. Icheb could also adapt to living without the whateveritscalledexactly implant in his brain that Seven needed.

On the other hand, we get S2 of PIC and suddenly Seven is full human, zero implants whatsoever and the writers missed to fully showcase this drastic change. It's more than just a few metal thingies on her face.

Anyway, back to *Unimatrix Zero* itself. Like the idea, hate the execution. They needed to lean in more into the body horror and not make it less frightening! I was so here for Tuvok to struggle mentally with this and thus talking to Seven about it. Their friendship is special.* Meanwhile let B'Elanna have more follow-up surgeries, let it take some time to get her voice back to normal. Of course the Doctor does have a lot of experience by then. Have to give him some credit there.

Edit: Wait, let me spell it out once again, because I can. B'ELANNA TORRES & SEVEN OF NINE NEEDED TO BE CLOSER FRIENDS!!!! (that's the most important message of that gif set)

#isagrimorie #ramblings #that added * in the text is because now I wanna get sidetracked again and think about one of my fav scenarios I needed to see #Tuvok and Seven and the Doctor and Torres on an away mission getting stranded or whatever #all four not enjoying crowds/people in their own way #the social skills between the four is just hilarious as well as clashing 'egos' (using that word loosely here)#Star Trek Voyager - perfect concept amazing characters - hindered by not commiting to the bit fully - my villain origin story #Star Trek #VOY

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livenudebigfoot · 1 year

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Hi! I just wanted to say thank you for writing The Unemployable Leon Tao and Empty Nest, the first I re-read recently and the second I just discovered. I love how you write the characters and their relationships with each other. You have their voices down so well, I can only hope to capture that if/when I start writing again. It was so fun discovering Empty Nest and where Harold was all this time, I love how Fusco is with Harold and I love your Shaw a lot. Thank you for these stories!

Thank you so much! I'm incredibly proud of both of those fics and the little post-canon continuity bubble they exist in. POI's finale is really heavy and I fully understand and share the fandom-wide instinct to resurrect everybody but also: Shaw and Fusco are my favorites and I love their friendship so so much and I really wanted to play around with that potential future where they're the last ones in the game and they get to rebuild Team Machine under the Machine's guidance, but also on their own terms. And rope in more stuff I like, like Harold choosing to come back and Numbers like Leon returning as assets. These fics are very much filling a little storytelling hole in my heart and I am so glad you enjoyed them <3.

if/when i start writing again

did you have something in mind 👀

#person of interest #isagrimorie

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ettadunham · 1 year

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Top 8 Shows

thnx @antoine-triplett for tagging me! <3

i tried not to overthink it, so in no particular order or as a definite list even, here's 8 shows!

Fringe

Person of Interest

Buffy the Vampire Slayer

Black Sails

Farscape

Continuum

Legend of Korra

Stargate SG-1

Tagging anyone, really, but also, let's actually tag some people this time: @thegunlady, @sugarbabywenkexing, @isagrimorie, @car0l-avenger-danvers, @arthurwilde

#antoine-triplett #thegunlady #sugarbabywenkexing #isagrimorie #car0l-avenger-danvers #arthurwilde

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sapphichymns · 1 year

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new year asks: 5, 6, 14

5. TV show of the year?

Could be really obvious and say Doctor Who...

While it came out earlier in the year, This is Going to Hurt did remain a constant on my mind. It's an amazing series. Wish it was more popular but it really isn't an easy show to watch.

6. Episode of tv or webisode that defined the year for you?

Now with this one, I do have to go with The Power of the Doctor. I think it closed all the threads in a wonderful manner and it's clearly an work of passion.

Ace and Tegan coming back, having more closure with their own Doctors. Yaz saving the world and proving she's indeed the Doctor in her own way. The Master being a clown as always. The most upbringing regeneration.

It just hit all the buttons.

14. Favorite book you read this year?

I'll admit, I don't read a lot of books but I've checked "The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo" and I quite enjoyed it. I will try to finish Dracula Daily this year because I became quite busy.

#Ask Me #isagrimorie

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bakerolivias-archived · 2 years

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"#being sad that katherine's character arc was wasted on her relentless pursuit of the salvabros: an autobiography by me" Yes. You! You get it! Its why I'm trying to rewrite things in my head where Katherine goes to NOLA instead despite her intense fear of Klaus, because for some reason I think she'd actually FARE better there than in MF. (I also think Tyler and Bonnie would fare better in NOLA too).

Lmao yes i'm so glad we share the same mind on the matter, and i'm still forever bitter and angry that the writers forced st*ferine down my throat instead of prioritizing katherine and nadia's relationship. (katherine's initial choice to not pursue a maternal relationship because of the traumatic aftermath of nadia's birth is also something that could have been explored in depth, but i didn't want to raise my expectations only to be disappointed and let down lol which ended up happening anyways but i digress). and this may sound weird but there was even wasted potential in jeremy (of all people) and katherine interactions, tbh. with the exception of bonnie, katherine is easily the most let down and unfulfilled character on the show in terms of development (although i think that happened to all the female characters to some extent).

the concept of katherine, who loathes and fears klaus intensely, wanting to set foot in his home city is fascinating, and probably better than anything the writers could have come up with. other than in pursuit of vengeance against klaus, i don't see what else could possibly benefit tyler in nola (i would love to be enlightened tho). out of all three bonnie definitely would have benefited most being in NOLA, because of the tight knit community of witches and the supernatural culture (as well as the opportunity to gain space from her self absorbed white friends), and maybe even develop a mutual partnership between herself and the mikaelsons.

#isagrimorie #long suffering sigh #so much wasted potential #annabelle's messages

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potcpoi · 2 years

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"#okay so first of all#ISAGRIM WHY!!!!!!!#it's 2022 I did not ask to get emotional over harold and shaw again"

*grin* You're Welcome!

Also, I'm glad this rang true to you!! I always wanted one more scene between Harold and Shaw and so this is my answer to that! I loved their dynamic and cherished the few episodes when it was only Harold and Shaw!

The cleaning of the glasses thing was something inspired by "Symbolic Constant".

I hope you enjoyed causing us poi related pain and feels five (5!) years after the show ended.

Everyone go read this fic and then yell at isagrim about it:

worlds enough and time — “You’re the only one I trust to do this.” - for... (tumblr.com)

#send me proof of your yelling #isagrimorie #askbox #poi fanfic

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terapsina · 4 months

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SEND ME A SHIP (+ number) AND I WILL TELL YOU... Carol/Maria 2, 15 (Captain Marvel/The Marvels) and because I am me! Hizzie 10, 11, 20

Carol and Maria

2. ...why I do or don't ship them.

I ship them. I ship them quite a LOT. And that's because from the MOMENT we started seeing those flashbacks, it felt like I was watching a love story.

And then they had their reunion and Maria looked like the breath had been knocked right out of her chest. And Carol with this hangdog expression? And the piles of photographs that Maria had kept to remember Carol?

I'm sorry, but this isn't just friendship.

Add in amnesia during which most of the memories that were trying to break through revolved around Maria and her daughter? A kid that Carol was clearly around so much that even after YEARS of being missing she still seemed to think Carol hung the moon? I mean, COME ON, I can be expected to be only so strong here.

And The Marvels did NOT help. If anything Carol was pining after all that she had lost even MORE.

It's like a tragic fairy tale.

15. ...how I wish their story would go/would have gone.

Well first of all I wouldn't have killed Maria. Because it's stupid and I hate it.

Second of all I wouldn't have had Carol ghosting the woman she was clearly in love with and their daughter for 20 years.

Because it's stupid and I hate it.

Or if I did do that, then The Marvels would have involved a very chaotic Time Travel fix it.

Ideally she'd have remained in contact and gotten back together with Maria in the intervening years (FYI here's a fic I found where Carol does go back and it's adorable (or here's an old fic I wrote that contains a smidge of how I would have wanted Carol to have kept in touch)) and though I do think I want to have kept Monica getting dusted by the Snap (because I do enjoy SOME angst), Maria would have been snapped too.

And then Carol would have gotten the both of them BACK.

But that was ideally.

Now, my hopes rest on Carol finding a way to get back the stranded Monica (or to join her). Because if they're making this Alternate Universe Maria be kind of a mirror of Carol... then let's go all the way here and have this Maria be mourning her Carol the same way our Carol is mourning her Maria.

They can be each other's second chance.

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Hope and Lizzie

10. ...rate the level of stupid they reach in their pining.

Can we reach levels above 10 out of 10? Because... duuude. When you have Lizzie constantly casting herself to play one half of a romcom couple and yet convinced that she's the matchmaker, or third wheel? And Hope being Lizzie's Totally Personal Hero? And Lizzie constantly pulling a Prince Charming on Hope? And Hope obsessing over Lizzie while lacking humanity all at the same time saying with her whole chest how she cares nothing about Lizzie?

AND BOTH OF THEM SOMEHOW COMPLETELY IGNORING THE BIG FLASHING LIGHT OF THE SIRE BOND AND WHAT THAT MEANS?

*voice full of saccharine condescension*: 'oh, honey'.

11. ...how quickly I started shipping them when I got into the fandom.

If memory serves me right... I started shipping them pretty early on. Wayyyyy early on, like before 1x12 even.

But where it became serious was the episode with the dress.

Like, the fact that she just went 'this family heirloom dress needs to be worn by the prettiest girl I know'? Goddammit, Lizzie.

And then of course there's the way you just have to admire the sheer gall of pulling a Klaroline parallel unintentionally?

But most of all... it might have been the way Lizzie spent the episode protectively glaring at the jealous boys. And the way she rushed over to hug Hope when she was about to have her breakdown in the middle of the dance floor.

Also. That face. Specifically.

20. ...how and when they should get/should have gotten together.

Ideally, at the end of the season 5 that never was.

I consider s4 to be the season where Lizzie realized and accepted that she's in love with Hope. Burt also accepted the idea that it was never going to happen and chose to try to move on.

S5 should have been the season where Lizzie is trying to do that while Hope is coming to accept that there's feelings there from her side too and that the idea that she might have realized that too late hurts.

Culminating in a big fight where they finally drop all the cards on the table and address all the things they'd been skirting over.

#danbeau #hizzie #carol danvers #maria rambeau #lizzie saltzman #hope mikaelson #captain marvel #the marvels #ask game #answers #isagrimorie #terapsina rambles #terapsina's captain marvel rambles #terapsina's legacies rambles #otp: this is the love lost; this is the love found again #otp: we're in this 'til the bitter end

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