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PinkNews- “Supernatural star Misha Collins finally confirms his character was gay all along – but fans are divided”

(...) Supernatural character was killed off within seconds of ‘homosexual declaration of love’.

Within seconds of his admission of love, Castiel sacrificed himself to save Dean, likely marking Collins’ permanent exit from the show ahead of the final two episodes.

It’s safe to say Supernatural fans were divided about the moment. While some ‘Destiel’ shippers celebrated a long-hoped for confirmation, others were unhappy about the way Castiel was killed off immediately after coming out, given Hollywood’s much-criticised propensity for killing off queer characters.

Destiel fans were also unimpressed by the one-sided nature of the moment. Jensen Ackles, whose character remained largely stoic and did not reciprocate the declaration of love, has previously suggested he is “uncomfortable” with the number of fans invested in the pairing, and has rejected questions about the show’s gay subtext.

Speaking on a virtual panel at the DarkLight Online Convention on 8 November, Misha Collins acknowledged that the death played into an unhelpful trope as he dispatched up any remaining ambiguity about the “homosexual declaration of love”.

Filling in some of the other panellists who haven’t kept up to speed with the show, Collins explains: “Castiel tells Dean he loves him and basically makes Destiel canon, which is, woah! Fans are freaking out after that.

“To complicate matters, he dies after that. So Castiel makes this homosexual declaration of love, which is amazing that that happens, and then he dies right after, which plays into a timeless Hollywood trope of ‘kill the gays’, which pisses off [fans]. So, we give and then we take away.”

Mark Sheppard, who previously appeared on Supernatural as the demon Crowley, said: “You do know, Misha, we all knew! We all knew that Castiel was in love with Dean.”

Misha Collins says show ‘took the time’ to get moment right.

Collins praised the episode’s director Richard Speight for the moment, saying: “I do appreciate that Richard took the time and attention to give that scene its due. Rehearsal time, we talked about it quite a bit in advance of shooting it… I appreciate the thought and care and attention put into that scene.

“It was the very last scene we shot, which was not a scheduling necessity, but was done to give that scene its attention.”

Speight credited Collins and the Supernatural showrunners for making the moment special, adding: “I think it’s such a gift to the fans that gave this character this journey, that allows fans to live that process through a character they’ve become so connected to.

“That doesn’t happen in TV much, and certainly doesn’t happen in network TV, where risks are never taken. You did such a wonderful job, leaning into that. It was fantastic.”

Of course, fans might question how much of a “risk” it actually is to include a queer character three episodes before the end of an already-cancelled TV show, having been on the air for 15 years.

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#2020-Nov #2020:November11 #*spn 15x18 #*destiel #*queerbaiting #Mark Sheppard #Misha Collins #Richard Speight Jr.#author: Nick Duffy #PinkNews

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go-diane-winchester · 5 years

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HOW TO KNOW YOU ARE DEALING WITH A HELLER AND NOT A DESTIEL SHIPPER

There are a few tell tale signs you are dealing with a heller and not a destiel shipper. They all seem to be cut from the same cloth. No originality in how they engage others but their deviousness is unique and changes from heller to heller. @officerhaughtismygirlfriend is a repulsive creature from the UK and yet she speaks exactly like the hellers from the US. Crassness and vulgarity have no boundaries. So what is a heller?

A heller will insist that Dean is bisexual, or in the special case of @officerhaughtismygirlfriend, gay. In fact one of her tags is ''Jensen can't hide Dean's gay''. So essentially she doesn't respect Jensen's take on his own character. Par for the course with a heller.

A heller will tag everyone and everything under the sun, and despite ten years of being told continuously to respect other SPN fans and tag courteously, they don't care. They always counter with ''but it's not like we are hurting anyone. We are just having fun''. So am I, honey. I am having a ball of a time in the main tags.

They will try to make themselves look like the ethical and moral ones in the fandom when, even though laughingly, they are actually the worst people you would ever encounter, they stan the worst excuse for an E-list celebrity ever and then they have to audacity to balk when you see fault in the weasel. They will use words like ''I am sorry for whoever hurt you'' [I got that one] ''Just remember you are spreading hate when love is so much more rewarding''. Very flowery, hypocritical words.

If they have a flimsy argument, and they know it, they always fall back on what they consider their failsafe standby: ''Just kidding'' ''Cant you take a joke'' ''Misha is just joking'' ''Misha is just being sarcastic''. No, we don't believe that. You are not kidding. Neither is Misha. He is just pandering to the most gullible subsection of the fandom because its not like he has sex appeal or talent to keep him relevant.

Deify Misha and are shocked if anyone says anything critical about his repugnant and repulsive character, especially when it stands out as a stark contract to Jared and Jensen's characters which are loved by the two million viewers who tune it to watch J2 every week as opposed to the 8000 who masturbate to Misha's ugly and average looking face.

Another standby for them is to go into victim mode and say that they are being attacked for loving and caring and spreading joy or some greeting card nonsense, when they attack Jensen for playing his character straight. He was straight from the get go. 14 years later, he is not going to change because you have an issue with it. Grow up.

They ship shame. They don't attack sastiel because their ugly overlord is half of the ship. They don't attack sabriel because the trickster keeps Sam out of their way. But wincest gets a beating from them. And yet, Jensen likes wincest shippers. He shot down destiel, perhaps because destiel fans and Misha are disgusting to him. Notice how he never sits next to Misha unless he has to. Notice how he is absolutely happy doing only one con panel with Misha per year. And yet to the deluded nuts out there, ''destiel is cockles fault''. Cockles is a more laughable notion than destiel.

Some really special snowflakes, like this one, claims that she received death threats from non-destiel fans. And yet she didn't show me any receipts, however, she squeezed out a smelly turd in my private message box, complete with smiley faces. One heller told me she didn't approve of me naming her publically because ''what if I get death threats''. I told her to forward them to me so I can publically shame them. She never replied about it, because she didn't receive any death threats. She however, did say Jared purposefully cracked her ribs by hugging her too hard. Purposefully. Hellers are liars. P.S. don't send me any anon threats as proof. You people are consistent liars so I wont believe it.

Be prepared for all the ill placed smiley faces that don't fit into the context and tone of what the heller is saying. They use smiley faces in the hopes to weaken your resolve by giving the impression that your criticism did not affect them. They are, as I have noticed, usually very affected. My resolve wont weaken especially since I can confirm that Supernatural lurks around Tumblr, and if my post ends up on search engine results, then I am happy. Don't ask me how I know, because hellers will bombard them with ''make destiel canon'' nonsense.

Destiel fans, to reiterate point number 8, never ever provide proof of anything. Take for example @destielshipper2017 who claimed I lied about Misha but backed off when she realized when she didn't have any proof as to how I lied. Hellers are feared for their mob mentality, not because they are right.

They will have Sam/Jared in their profile name and profile picture, which will lead any fool to believe that they are Sam and Jared fans. But they are not. Haught actually claims that Sam is her ''second favorite''. Really, and yet you devalue his presence in a scene just to make place for your mucus-covered icky little canoe that you mistook for a ship. Compared to destiel, wincest is a massive luxury passenger liner with a large emblem on it reading ''APPROVED BY JENSEN ACKLES AND JARED PADADECKI''...... nah, that's too long. What does Jared call the two of them? Ah yes, Padackles. Much better. Shorter. ''APPROVED BY PADACKLES''.

When faced with anything that is contrary to their weak little beliefs, they resort to name calling more enthusiastically than anyone else on this fandom. Go onto Haught's page. She called a contradictor a ''sexist pig''. Perhaps they learnt it from their hideous overlord who calls critical people ''haters'', rather than rectifying his behavior or rectifying their perception. Yet they will flip out when I point at his ugly face and say ''that face is ugly''. Well of course, its ugly. And it's getting uglier as we speak. Perhaps because all the ugliness he has inside of him is starting to show on the surface.

The last and the worst tell tale sign you are dealing with a heller, for me anyway because they use this ploy a lot, is accusing you of bigotry the way they accuse Jensen. Destiel is a fantasy ship. It is not a sexuality, so denying it doesn't make you a bigot. The first few times I was accused of homophobia, I was emotionally jostled. It hurt. That's when I realized how Jensen must feel. He gets bombarded with this filthy accusation on social media by thousands of disgusting fans who have only hate and malice in their hearts. If someone reads a dumb headcanon on haught's page and then asks poor Jensen about it during a con, and Jensen shoots the heller down, then Jensen is going to be called a homophobe all over again, and its will be Haught's fault for not adding a note to her headcanon dissuading such behavior. Oh, but Haught is not wrong for writing this filth, right? She is just ''spreading love and joy'' right? No, she is just a pig, with horrible taste is ugly little weasels who were publically named ugly.

Receipt of destielshipper2017 being a spineless fool.

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