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disdaidal · 2 years
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heyyy, for the ask game 🎨 & 🎂!!
🎨 — Do you think he has any talents not mentioned on the show? Does he draw? Play a musical instrument?
answered here :)
🎂 — Does he celebrate his birthday? How, with who?
I think when he moves out into his first apartment, the first couple of years he would only celebrate his birthday with some friends, which naturally involves heavy drinking and a bad hangover, and the drinker's remorse the next morning. Susan and Max might drop by and bring him a cake and sing 'happy birthday to you' to him awkwardly while Billy thinks his head is gonna split in two and he can't eat anything because he's gonna throw up if he does.
But after that, I think he doesn't want to celebrate his birthdays at all because the last few he could barely remember due to heavy drinking, and the birthdays before that were dull and meaningless because Neil had to play nice to him and it was so fucking pretentious that Billy wanted to hurl anyway.
Max would remember his birthdays, however. They're still not on the best terms with one another, but they're getting along better than they used to. And she knows that he's lonely - he's ditched most of his old high school 'friends' because they only wanted him around when he was all fun and games - because Billy got tired of constant drinking and hangovers and hanging around with fake people. So now he's pretty much left alone to look after himself - working or working out.
So I think Max would drop by his apartment around his next birthday (wouldn't it be neat if she already had her driver's license), simply tells him 'come', grabbing his hand and pulling him along, not answering any of his questions or acknowledging his bitching when he's begrudgingly sitting in her car and grumbling about being busy with other things, Maxine.
Which he totally isn't. And Max would drive them someplace nice, to a place with a nice view or close to water (Lover's Lake perhaps) and they would sit there for a while, not talking to each other. And then Max would finally turn to Billy, hand him his gift in a small box (it's a gold earring/necklace/bracelet) and some chocolate chip cookies (Billy's favorite) in a wrapper, and then tell him:
"Happy Birthday, Billy."
And Billy's heart swells a little and the corners of his mouth turn upwards. Maybe he's crying a little bit, too, when shifts closer to Max and puts his arms around her, pulling her into a hug.
"Thank you, Max."
And maybe Max cries a little, too, when she realizes that Billy's really hugging her. For the first time in many years. And he isn't being mean, he's being nice and gentle. Like a real brother.
And it's the best birthday they've ever had together.
billy hargrove headcanon ask game
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ihni · 3 years
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IHNI i was just happily reading this marvelous thing you wrote when suddenly this scene punched me right in the heart and now I'M CRYING.
The first thing he does when he gets the key is bring the baby carrier into the empty living room. He puts it on the floor in the middle of the room and picks Sam up, and spends the next twenty minutes just … going around the apartment, pointing things out.
“This is our sink. Our taps. We’ll have water on hand at any time now.”
And, “This is our stove. I’ll be able to cook food whenever we want it, now – warm food! Your favorite.”
And, “This is our shower.” Samuel coos in agreement at that as if he’s agreeing, which makes Billy smile. “It’s my third favorite thing in the world right now.”
The second, being his Camaro.
The first, by a mile; his son.
What a beautiful scene. Uffff.
💖💖💖💖💖💖.
I ... I am so sorry it made you cry, but I'm not gonna lie, I'm also kinda thrilled (... does that make me a bad person, or just a normal person who writes? :p ).
Thank you, THANK YOU for saying this. Means a LOT (and I may be misty-eyed now too, so this makes us even! ).
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rascheln · 3 years
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"The way he tries not to crack up at Billy’s meanest jokes, but his eyes quickly betray him and he ends up hiding his laughter in Billy’s shoulder"
this concept 💘💘💘💘💘 . they're so alike, i imagine they'd be one of those couples whose complicity is 🌟🌟🌟🌟. knowing what's gonna make the other laugh right before he does, and what to say to make them laugh too. sharing glances at each other across the room when somebody says something them both find funny or because they know what the other's thinking. and this idea of one of them channeling his mean self and the other having to physically hide to not burst into laughter is just 💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘💘🙌🙌🙌
sdfgh thank you!!! and omg yes, that’s exactly how i think of them- very compatible in humor once they get along and learning each other’s tells when they get together. Steve knows all the stupid voices he has to make to get Billy to cheer up when he’s angry or sad. And despite Steve trying to overall be a better person, he’s still not immune to Billy’s mean quips- always timed just right to make him crack up when he least expects it, while Billy gets this ridiculously smug expression when he makes him laugh😌💗💗
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witchsickness · 3 years
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And there it isssssshjajhdjahdjahajhdhahhd and that last line i— used to have a heart yk? but is this fic's now.
(your writing is stellar all the time, but this part. THIS PART)
b a b e. you have an unnatural talent of pointing out all my favorite parts, and this one is probably one of the most important moments in the whole fic. i know you’ve already read the end, so i can answer this without the fear of spoiling it for you, so [cracks fingers] 
this moment, right here, is when billy finally sees steve. all of him. the masks are down, and steve is literally bleeding out on the ground, a fallen king for all to scorn, and billy. can see him, finally. for the first time. sees the way steve’s love for him is scorching, and all-consuming, but also selfish, through and through. it’s a cruel, selfish kind of love, that steve will do anything in his power to keep. will hurt billy if it means getting to keep this. him. would drown them both if it means making sure billy remains his for all eternity. billy, in that moment, still believes he’d be the one to choose to die for steve. still believes he’s the selfless one in this. still believes he’d save steve
it’s in direct juxtaposition to their final moment in the ocean, where steve finds himself in billy’s mercy, not able to swim in deep water, literally clinging onto him for life. if billy lets go, steve is lost. simple as that. and billy realizes, in that startling moment of clarity, that he doesn’t want steve to learn how to swim. he doesn’t want a future where steve doesn’t depend on him to stay alive, literally. he’d give anything to keep this dependency steve finds himself trapped in, as painfully physical as it is emotional. and i think. billy realizes, in that moment, that. essentially, they’re the same. he sees himself through steve’s eyes, sees this Thing between them the way steve does. realizes steve’s been right all along. this is what their love looks like. both of them willing to let themselves drown if it means dying wrapped around each other. merging, almost. if it means belonging, stevetobilly-and-billytosteve, so completely. so fully. so fatally. steve’s been trying to tell him all along, and. billy, salt in his lungs and the boy he loves hard enough to kill, hard enough to die for, in his arms, billy. billy finally accepts their fate. accepts this doomed thing they’ve created for the answer he’s been seeking all along. his breath is steve’s as much as it is his, and billy wouldn’t have it any other way. doesn’t need to, not anymore. this is their forever
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edith-moonshadow · 3 years
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hey, love. hope that headache is treating you better. sending lots of 💗💗💗💗💗💗💗
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Thank you so much my dear 💜💜💜 unfortunately I think it's going to be one of those terrible week long affairs but at least it's not a migraine 😬😬😬
I'm sorry I haven't written back to all your amazing replies I'm a terrible over-thinker and I was hoping my brain would stop hurting long enough that I could even begin to articulate how your lovely words affected me 🥰🥰🥰 you deserve all the praise your words are so wonderful 🥰🥰🥰 I'm just showing my appreciation for your amazing work 💜💜💜 Your replies have totally melted my heart, I'm proud to be part of something that you will revisit in the future and hope that you always know how beautiful your words are 💖💖💖
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missroserose · 3 years
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🌟🌟🌟🌟 oh I AM interested! :))))) 33 and 82 ! (and! It might take me a bit to check on this and the amazing ones I've seen you've already written. I have a test this saturday and 😫 I'm going sloooow) lost of ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Natalia!  Good on you for studying for that test—I’d be having a tough time concentrating right now, for sure.  You’re taking breaks, yes?  Staying hydrated?  Eating?
33.  “I’d like to see you try.”
82.  Sex Game
“The final showdown!”  Tommy’s practically crowing, holding up Billy’s hand on one side, Steve’s on the other, like some kind of circus grandmaster.  Like he’s scored some kind of entertainment coup, the contest of the decade—the keg kings of Hawkins in their last, best showdown.
Not like they’re going to play fucking Twister at a lame-ass Indiana party like eight-year-olds.
True, it could be worse.  The lights are dim, and there’s reasonably okay music pulsing from the next room, audible beneath the cheers and jeers of the onlookers.  True, somebody slipped Billy a pink pill with a heart stamped on it (“Jesus, even the drugs look like they’re for eight year olds,” Billy had groused, but he’d downed it with the rest of his beer), and his thoughts are beginning to grow slippery, sliding along each other in a pleasantly hazy sort of way.  Sure, Harrington’s on the same level, eyeing him with dilated pupils, a faint sheen of sweat making his skin seem to almost glow in the overly warm room—
Billy—not about to be outdone in showmanship by fucking Tommy—tears off his shirt, basks in the cheers of the witnesses.  Takes a half-fun can of beer off the end table and spills it down his chest, lets his skin cool down as the liquid drips onto the mat.  Leans forward, knees bent, hands on his thighs, and bares his teeth at Harrington—let some pretty Indiana boy compete with him—
To his surprise, Harrington imitates him, ditching the preppy pastel polo, though he opts for a bottle of water, pours half of it down his throat and the rest over his head.  The crowd goes more than a little wild, applause and hoots and the sounds of bets being quickly made as Harrington grins over at him, as Tommy holds the spinner aloft like a ring girl in a boxing match.  A moment, a breath—then he flicks the indicator.
“Right hand, green!” he calls out.
Even high as a kite on ecstasy, even with games that’re designed for kids’ birthday parties, Billy plays to win.  He gets up in Steve’s space, tangles around his limbs, drinks in the audience’s loud approval.  At one point, they’re pressed together, Steve’s back against his front, and Billy’s tempted to make an obscene motion with his hips, play to the crowd—
But that’s turning out to be the catch.  Harrington’s not rolling over, not trying to stay aloof.  There’s something wild in him tonight, something ready to meet Billy where he’s at, ready to lock horns for the crowd.  This is good, feels so good—better than a coked-out house party, better than a post-game drunken rager.  Beating Steve Harrington in front of all these people, at his own fucking game—
“You’re gonna look so good on your ass covered in my spill,” Billy breathes, or something along those lines—meaningless trash talk, as much for his own gratification as any real sense of intimidation.
“Left hand, yellow!”
Harrington angles himself away from Billy, tilts his head, gives him a little side-eye, a half-smile.  “Are you sure you don’t mean you’re going to look so good with my spill in your ass?”
“Left foot, red!”
Billy only bares his teeth as they shift, still pressed together, an eight-limbed creature locked in battle with itself.  “I’d like to see you try—“
“Right foot, green!”
Harrington, with the grace and confounding lack of strategy that makes him such a frustrating defensive player, stretches out his foot, slips further beneath Billy.  Billy’s considering how much weight he can reasonably bring to bear without making it look like he’s trying for a foul—until Harrington cants his hips, presses his ass up against the front of Billy’s jeans—against his rapidly-hardening length—not enough for anyone to see, but enough for Billy to feel the sudden chill of exposure—for Steve’s smile to grow that much wider—
Billy’s foot slips, the beer on the mat betraying him, sending him into an awkward half-split that has him landing on Harrington, who goes down beneath him like he’s fucking expecting it.  The crowd goes wild, cheers and boos in equal measure as money changes hands, as Billy scrambles up into a defensive stance, ready to take a punch, or throw one—
But Steve only gets up, dusts himself off, takes Billy’s hand in his.  Raises them up, as if they’re twin victors in some Roman coliseum battle.  At the roar of the crowd, he lets go, flashes his toothy grin all around, takes a couple congratulatory slaps on the back.  Catches Billy’s eye, gives him a little half-smile, a tilt of his head before disappearing down the hall.
Someone’s offering Billy a red Solo cup full of beer.  He takes it, chugs—tosses it back over his shoulder.  Nods vaguely in the direction of the person who handed it to him, but his feet are already carrying him towards the hallway.  Towards Harrington.
Maybe it’s time for that final showdown, after all.
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draculcid · 3 years
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🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘
THANK YOUUUU 🧡🧡🧡
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gravegroves · 3 years
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Happy birthday!!!!! 💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗 I'm pretty sure I'm late? xD hope you have/had and amazing one 🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂
You just made it haha!! And thank you so much! ❤❤❤
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cockasinthebird · 3 years
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hey hey my favorite cock I've been missing you around a lot. I basically write you to tell you that and send you a big bunch of HUGS, BIGBIGBIG .
BIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGG
🐓💖🐓💖🐓💖🐓💖🐓💖🐓💖
!!!!!!!!!! Hey you!!! 🥺💕🙏
I miss you too, so SO much
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I can't even say that I've been busy, but I've definitely hit a writers block, or run out of energy, or something like that, and have in general not been interacting a lot with the fandom, but know that I think about you and everyone else and yes Harringrove every day
I think I maybe just lost a lot of steam when I got flagged???
I love you so much babe, thank you for checking in on me and reminding me I won't be so easily forgotten 🥺🥰❤️💕💗💓💞💖💘💝❣️
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jimhhawkins · 3 years
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🌟 Put this star into the inbox of your favourite blogs. It's time to spread positivity! 🌟💗💗💗💗
i 🥺 love u thank u
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disdaidal · 2 years
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💖💖💖 in a 1 to 10 ranking, how hot do you think lou-diamond is in 'the big hit'? xD / I'm following you bc you're amazing and every single one of your edits is a treasure and bc omg so many of them make me laugh so hard 🌟🌟 / who would you swap bodies with for a week: billy or steve? / favorite xena moment? :D / i associate you by now with so many of my favorite movies and shows! / you tell me a secret! / 3 movies you'd take with you to a desert island xD /
MY LOVE 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖
in a 1 to 10 ranking, how hot do you think lou-diamond is in 'the big hit'?
asghjdhgjkdh seriously
Thanks for reminding me of that movie cuz I haven't watched it literally in years even though I have it on dvd xDD but since you so kindly asked, I actually dug it out of my dvd shelf after all these years and took some time to take these wonderful screenshots of him (since, you know, google didn't do him justice). i obviously didn't buy this movie just for him. obviously
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okay so honestly I'd rate him maybe 7/10 cause that mustache/beard combination thing is not doing anything for me honestly :'D and he's got some weird gold tooth too ajhjfhhjg
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He's ripped. He's armed and dangerous. He's morally corrupt, delightfully evil and has a sense of drama.
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and he's got so much love for mel (keeps calling him 'baby' too)
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I mean, what's not to love there XDDD 💖💖💖 so yeah thanks for reminding me of this movie!!! I had so much fun watching it after a long time.
I'm following you bc you're amazing and every single one of your edits is a treasure and bc omg so many of them make me laugh so hard 🌟🌟
Aww thanks so much! 🥺😭🥰 You are amazing too!!! 💖✨ And I'm so glad that you value my edits and that some of them make you laugh too! I always try to pick the stuff for funny edits that makes me laugh, and it gives me so much joy to read people's tags (yours included) and see that mission accomplished. 🤗🤩
who would you swap bodies with for a week: billy or steve?
Honestly, I don't know. Maybe Steve? 😅 I mean I'd love to see what's going on in Billy boy's head sometimes, to try and understand why he's acting the way he is. But honestly, we don't know much about Steve either right? We haven't seen his parents, don't know much about his childhood and his trademark is being 'dumb' and having 'great hair', but we all know he's more than that. I think it would be an interesting week indeed. 😄
favorite xena moment? :D
Oh gosh, I haven't actually watched Xena in a long time and haven't even seen all the seasons yet. D:
But you know I'm a Callisto girl 😏 like I think I had a legit crush on her when I was around 9-10 years old maybe.
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Obviously there are a lot of good scenes between Xena and Gabrielle too. 😘 And Joxer the Mighty afjjghfkgjk
i associate you by now with so many of my favorite movies and shows!
Honestly, same!!! 💖💖💖 I still can't believe that we share so many fandoms & favorite actors in common, and it's this fandom that finally brought us 'together' 😂😍 It is ✨destiny✨ also great taste 😇🤭 My small fandom experience could've been so much better & less lonely if only we had talked before! 😤 Oh well, I'm glad you're here now 😘
you tell me a secret!
As if I had any secrets. 🤣🤣🤣 I mean ones that I'd actually want to tell anyone 😂
3 movies you'd take with you to a desert island xD
Oh gosh xDD There are so many movies that I'd love to take with me.
But let's see...
The Breakfast Club - because I need at least one 80's movie with me. And it's a pretty good high school & teen drama movie imo.
Homeward Bound: The Incredible Journey - this movie made me cry as a kid and the ending scene still brings tears to my eyes. I mean two talking dogs and one cat going on a huge adventure in the wildnerness. There's humor, there's drama and there's some angst too. But it's a great family movie, brings a smile to my face (along with those tears). :)
Cube - Because I love me some good psychological horror.
Thanks so much for these lovely questions & I had fun answering them. 😊🥰 You're obviously getting an ask from me too, so be prepared. 😎💖
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catharrington · 3 years
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BEAUTIFUL PERSON AWARD! Once you are given this award you're supposed to paste it in the asks of 8 people who deserve it. If you break the chain nothing happens, but it's sweet to know someone think you're beautiful inside and out! 💝💐
Thank you so so much 🖤🖤🥰🥰🖤🖤
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ihni · 3 years
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hey, ihni! I can't resist a bodyswap! So, tell me about it? :D
*claps hands excitedly* Weee I love a good body-swap fic! So naturally, I had to try to write one. I’m only a couple of chapters in and I don’t actually have an ending planned ... it’s one of those things that can go on forever.
But the basic premise is ... they swap bodies. And then they switch back. And then the body swaps keep happening, randomly. And don’t really stop. Like, ever.
So yeah. You can see where I have no end in sight, right? :p
I love it and I sometimes go and write a little on it, but since I doubt it’ll ever be Finished (every chapter can be read separately, kind of, and is its own ending), I don’t know how I’ll ever get to posting it.
(Also it’s not good enough for a snippet. But I’m having fun with it.)
Thanks for asking!! <3
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rascheln · 3 years
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i’m in tumblr ask jail, but please know that it’s 100% returned<3<3<3
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witchsickness · 3 years
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💗💗💗💗 hey you!!! If you've got the time and feel like it would you mind writing me a one million k essay about your conceptualization of steve's character? ( meaning how you see him) because i find your take so frickin interesting and also so minutely developed that i NEED. I've read your asks about the character and i always wonder who is the steve harrington you write. because he's definitely very clever and people clever above anything else, and calculating and manipulative and he's got so many preconceptions about the world and himself and such a big part of the story is built around him and what he does and decides and!! he's so complex i 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
(i know you're working on blw, so no rush either 🌟🌟)
hEY honey-nat 💕 im SO late to this and i know blw is over but my brain is kinda online today and i don’t know if that’s what you were looking for but here are some of my thoughts on blw steve! feel free to come scream at me for more or any other questions you may have i LOVE stirring my thoughts to make brain smoothies
it’s simple as that: i LOVED steve’s character in s1, and i really liked his ‘asshole to sweetheart-but-still-an-asshole’ arc in s2, and i. HATED what they did to him in s3. hated it. won’t ever accept it as canon. and i felt robbed, bc s1 steve was so compelling, and interesting, and potentially dark and dangerous and so, so broken, and i wanted. more of that
and i’m not. super invested in st as a show? i don’t mind it, but i love both steve and esp billy SO much, and that kinda. overshadows everything else. so i kept wondering how things would turn out if steve had clashed with billy back when his moral compass/angel girl scout on his shoulder, ie nancy, wasn’t in the picture yet (i do Not like nancy. if that wasn’t clear enough by now. i don’t like her. not one bit)
so anyway. s1 steve for me is. unrestrained. a big, rich fish with a name that unlocks all doors in a fishbowl of a town. he’s on the loose, and he knows he can get away with anything. maybe not. real life anything, but def high school anything. i like to think of him as someone who automatically gets what he wants, without ever having to go after it, because. to him, it’s inevitable. when he wants something, it’ll come to him. the alternative doesn’t, hasn’t ever crossed his mind. the alternative where he has to chase something, or. even worse, where he doesn’t ever get it, that. doesn’t exist in his world
i def hc steve as extremely manipulative, which is a direct and inevitable result of his emotional intelligence. i think that’s a generally accepted hc, that steve is empathetic and can read people’s emotions, but. i think. having a gift like that and being born into an environment favoring winning over everything else, stepping over others to get where you want, i think it’s bound to get sharpened into a figurative spear and used for manipulating situations and emotions, twisting them to his favor. it’s a challenge, a game, pinpointing what the person in front of him is expecting, what they want, and weaving a mirror-like mask to reflect that and bounce it back. to trick people into thinking they’re getting what they asked for, when it’s been steve’s game from the first move
and it’s all been smooth sailings, because it’s his town and he’s dictating the rules, and then
billy crashes into hawkins, into steve’s life, and turns everything upside down. because steve wants him, from the very first glance, like he’s never wanted anything else, and billy wants him too, and he’s even willing to join steve in his stupid little game, before they let parts of the mask break and slip away and show what’s behind, but
billy also leaves. steve wants to become billy’s world, take over everything else in his life, push everything out so there’s only space for him left, wants to eat billy alive and keep him inside and never let him see the sun again, but. billy keeps pushing back. keeps fighting, keeps asking for more, and more, and more. and the one thing he should be asking, if steve will let him leave, billy just. takes that. never asks. just leaves, and makes every day a goodbye, until they’ve run out of days, and out of goodbyes, and steve doesn’t get to keep what he wants. for the first time in his life
and he knows that. from the very first moment, billy’s a walking reminder of what he wants, what he can’t breathe right without, but isn’t allowed to keep. everything on billy’s screaming about leaving, and rejoining the ocean, and. abandoning steve. and it drives steve wild. that he’s been training his whole life to twist things and bend them to his will, and he still can’t manage it here, where it matters. he can have anything he wants. he can have the whole world, except his world is billy, and steve doesn’t get to have that
i think there’s an undercurrent of loss and mourning in steve that we don’t pay enough attention to. it’s easy to accept his grief in canon after barb’s death, which he feels responsible for, but i think there’s always been a ribbon of sadness running through him, that comes with the knowledge of being unwanted, of being left to his own devices by the people who are meant to protect him, and love him, and be there, with the knowledge that there’s a whole world outside of hawkins steve won’t ever hold under his palm. i think he enjoys his power, but he also realizes that it relies on town limits. the moment someone’s outside hawkins’ spell, he’s free of steve’s reign, too. and that terrifies steve. bc if something is so fickle, so easily lost, then it mustn’t be worth a lot in the first place. steve mustn’t be worth a lot
and billy is a constant reminder of that, of the world outside steve’s control. he’s the embodiment of what steve can’t have, can’t keep locked in a box under his bed, can’t order to never grow up so everything can stay the same. billy is. in some ways. steve’s adult wake up call. the reminder that high school will be over, and steve’s kingdom will crumble to pieces, and steve will be left with a paper crown and a hangover and no one but himself to blame.
they’re both learning how to say goodbye, billy and steve. billy spends two years saying goodbye to the boy he loves and can’t take with him back to his ocean, and steve spends them saying goodbye to the boy he was, and learning how to become someone billy can pack in a suitcase and take with. steve has to learn how to be real, in a way that doesn’t rely on his name, on his reputation, on the glass mask he’s been wearing for so long. he has to be real, so he doesn’t turn to dust the moment he steps outside the palace he’s trapped himself in
when billy wraps his arms around him, steve has to be solid under his touch, and when he holds billy’s face between his palms, his whole world in his hands, he has to be real for that, too
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mourntheantagonist · 3 years
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Heyyyy!! ☀️☀️ 11, 12, 44 and 50 for the ask game? 💞💞
Thank you love!!!
11. what is your favourite song right now?
I just watched Hamilton against my will the other day and now I can’t get “you’ll be back” out of my head because Jonathan Groff actually does own my whole ass.
12. what is your favourite song of all time?
ooh that’s a tough one but I’d definitely say it has to be drops of jupiter by train because that’s like my whole childhood. reminds me of days in the car as a kid with the radio on driving back and forth to swim practice.
44. what do you think about when you can’t fall asleep at night?
my next fanfiction. I’m not kidding lol. I wrote that last one in my head last night and finished it in the morning. most of the time tho I’m not doing much thinking and instead letting whatever tv show or movie I decided to put on put me to sleep.
50. do you have a nickname?
mandi actually is my nickname! it’s short for amanda. I also have a few others people like to call me like amy, manda, dee, and if you ask my brothers, armand lmao. but mandi is the much preferred option!
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