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cocoeys · 2 years
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ep 3:
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rondanchan · 2 years
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"Look after him, Matthew."
"He needs it."
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writing-for-life · 9 days
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Give us Dream and Johanna please!
(And I’m serious because how could you not after all the signs?)
Okay, after today’s Lucienne and Matthew news, which very likely mean unbridled moping in the rain, can I just say the following:
I’ve basically felt from day one they should replace Thessaly with Johanna. For a million reasons. Mostly because it makes show-narrative sense, but also because I’m selfish and would love to see less bi-erasure in fandom (it is a lofty goal, I know). So we see a bi woman have f/f AND m/f relationships and don’t just hype the same sex one and then ignore the other one as “straight”, as usually happens.
I’m still wildly convinced (well, hunch-style 🤣) we’re getting ConstantDream in the show. I’ll be embarrassed about it later if it doesn’t happen yet will survive, but I wrote a million times about it, so may I just draw attention to two of many:
The cinematography/framing (so many romance shots!)
His eyes in the lower one (you know when they get all sparkly with a slightly golden glow, right?)
The rain!
Her saying, “None of us can be trusted.”
Matthew saying he doesn’t like her in S1 (which is a direct mirror of the scene we’ve talked about, where he says to Lucien that he never liked Thessaly).
The way it already makes sense (Dream took Johanna’s nightmares away—she could just dream of him out of gratefulness or whatever. Same thing as with Thessaly really, easy to do).
The soundtrack. Yes, we have musical clues, read the meta.
Slight spoilers, proceed at your own risk…
The fact we’ve literally no news about AGoY and know that Wanda/Ruby have been rolled into one, which could totally mean Wanda’s arc has been changed (she doesn’t need to die in a storm/collapsed building, she might as well die in a fire).
The way that Johanna would protect Lyta for all the right reasons because of her experience with Astra.
And did I mention the rain? THE UNGODLY AMOUNT OF RAIN.
Need I go on?
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huedmmi · 2 years
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orionsangel86 · 1 year
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The Problem With Thessaly
I’m sure plenty of fans would agree with me that there are certain elements of the Sandman comics that are going to be very difficult to adapt for television. I don’t envy the mammoth task Neil and the creative team on the show have ahead of them. But one element in particular which has been on my mind frequently is how they are going to introduce Thessaly to our screens.
It’s not just that she’s a TERF. It’s that she’s a cold, cruel, selfish, and inconsiderate bitch who only ever thinks about herself. Oh yeah, and she’s a huge TERF. There isn’t a single likeable element to her.
And yet.
We are supposed to somehow believe that our main protagonist, idiotic as he may sometimes be, depressed and seriously down on his luck as he is, will fall head over heels in love with her.
Sorry. But it ain’t happening. Something has gotta change. So here are my thoughts on how they could fix the Thessaly Problem.
Under a cut for comic spoilers (and its a bit long)
I kinda get the reason it happens in the comics. Kinda. I can’t remember the exact quote, or where I read it, but Neil explained it as “two people who you know are absolutely not right for each other and no one who knows them can understand why they are together.” He purposely wrote it to be a really weird match that didn’t make sense.
From Dream’s perspective, at this point in the story he has just had some of his biggest romantic disasters slapped in his face (at one point literally) all within a very short space of time for an entity as long lived as him. First Calliope, then Nada, and then Alianora, and he is hurting from all of them. Having to face his romantic failures one after another within the space of a few years AFTER having to go through 70 odd years of relentless suffering trapped in a glass prison has GOT to mess with your head. So I think Thessaly is basically the worst rebound in history. They are only canonically together for a few weeks but he somehow falls head over heels for this plain, dull, horrible person. 100% this is a rebound. He’s messed up. So yeah, I kinda get it.
From Thessaly’s perspective it seems she just really liked the idea of being the object of someones attention and desire even though she never returned his feelings and left him the minute he stopped devoting all his attention to her (god she really is a bitch).
So why don’t I think this will work in the show?
Because the show is a kinder universe than the comic. Dream is different in the show. He is already more thoughtful, warm, compassionate, and has a better self awareness when it comes to his shortcomings. He’s also a far more romantic character in the show, which is probably thanks to Tom Sturridge’s excellent performance and likeability and absolutely maddening sexual chemistry with literally every character he interacts with (his pretty face doesn’t hurt either). You just have to look at his scenes with Calliope to know that they are playing up the romance and kindness there when in the comics Dream is extremely cold to Calliope throughout their very short interactions.
Given the news that the writing team on Game of You will include trans writers specifically to cover the sensitivities of honouring Wanda, I don’t know how they will adapt the transphobia she suffers at Thessaly’s hand, or whether they will include that at all - personally I think they should remove it. Not to make Thessaly more likeable, but because it reinforces a really wrong view of witchcraft and magick that modern witches and pagans are working extremely hard to reject. Not to get too deep into these topics, but transphobia is a fucking plague in those communities and the last thing we need is more people thinking everyone who practices witchcraft is a fucking TERF. The comic even goes so far as to imply the actual MOON is transphobic. Like WTF? The moon isn’t fucking transphobic and “womb magic” is stupid. If I ever have to read the words “divine feminine” in a witchcraft FB group again I’m gonna scream.
Anyway my point is that I don’t think those scenes in the comic are necessary and there are plenty of other ways to adapt that story without resorting to transphobia.
The other issue is that if they do keep it in, they somehow have to deal with the fact that their protagonist is seemingly totally cool with dating a transphobic murderous bitch. Um. Yeah, not cool Dream. I think the show is going to do everything it can to make Dream MORE likeable and based on what we have seen so far I definitely think that’s the route they are taking.
So yeah Dream won’t be falling in love with a TERF in the show, that I am sure of.
The thing is, the best way they can deal with the Thessaly problem is also the simplest - Don’t include her. Just don’t write her into the show. Simples.
Because we already have a character in the show universe who technically doesn’t exist in comic canon, who knows magic and the occult, and who is MUCH more likeable and kind whilst still being a bit messy and selfish and totally a terrible match for Dream... Oh, and who also happens to be played by possibly the most well known actor on the shows main cast list.
Johanna Constantine.
Jenna Coleman is a fairly big name and one of the primary stars for the show. At least Netflix seemed to think so since her face was all over the marketing and she was included in basically every cast interview, even though her character only turns up in 1 and a half episodes. She is also playing a new version of an already well known character in pop culture and I am convinced Netflix is already considering spin off options for her. So there is no way they aren’t going to include her in future episodes of the Sandman.
Except thats where Netflix has a problem if it wants to stick to comic canon. Lady Johanna Constantine only turns up in one more Sandman story, and John Constantine doesn’t show up again at all in the comics.
So my piece of speculation that I’m almost 90% certain will happen, is that they will bring back modern Johanna Constantine in an extended or adapted role based on another character.
My money is on Thessaly. Remove Thessaly, replace her with Johanna.
I’m not just saying this because I think Johanna and Morpheus hooking up will be hot (it will be, don’t deny it. My bisexual ass knows a hot couple when I see them). But because it makes sense.
Yeah okay we have that pesky little rule about the Endless not dating mortals - but that rule currently doesn’t exist in show canon either, so theres no reason why they can’t just also scrap that for the sake of some sexy, messy, and definitely disastrous bi4bi action.
All jokes aside, with only a few tweaks to the story in a Game of You, you could seemlessly fit Johanna into it. She can be in New York for a specific case, hell, maybe Barbie and the sudden appearance of Martin Tenbones on a busy New York street IS the case she’s investigating? She can still find a way to break Hazel and Foxglove into the Dreaming AND when Morpheus shows up they can have another tantalising showdown like they did in episode 3. It works better with Johanna tbh. She actually cares about people, the motivation is there for her to want to save Barbie and protect people from supernatural sources. We can just make the storm and the collapse of the apartment block be caused by George or the cuckoo or something (or not have it happen at all since I am also practically certain that Wanda is NOT going to die in the show).
This ALSO means that much later on, when Lyta is having her breakdown and destroying the Dreaming, having Johanna being the one to protect her from Morpheus rather than Thessaly also adds a more human element to it. Morpheus has never been a killer, but sometimes his duties demand it. He goes to kill Lyta to prevent the Kindly Ones destroying the Dreaming. If it is Johanna blocking him instead of Thessaly, their motives align. Johanna would protect Lyta for the simple fact that she won’t let a supernatural creature harm a human (as much as she can - sorry Kevin), and Morpheus, being hesitant about killing anyway, would be easily talked out of it by Johanna. “Find another way to save the Dreaming, I won’t let you harm her.”
It just adds an emotional weight that isn’t there with Thessaly, who only protects Lyta because she made a deal with the Kindly Ones in exchange for more centuries of life - an ironic request when Morpheus (and Death) are keeping Hob Gadling alive simply so he can be Dream’s BFF.
It just works for me. Scrap the “no mortals” rule and you can have them have the messy disastrous relationship that doesn’t work out. It is far more believable that Johanna Constantine could break Dream’s heart - she’s already a known heartbreaker in the show (sorry Rachel). It’s a doomed love story a modern audience can get behind, makes sense, the actors already have insane sexual chemistry, and it could definitely hit all those story beats needed to get the show to a version of the Kindly Ones whilst also actively improving it.
I may first and foremost be a Dreamling shipper, but talking in terms of canon I very much want Morpheus to have a passionate short-lived heart breaking affair with Johanna. Fuck Thessaly. Keep her relegated to comic canon. Morphanna all the way.
And THAT is how we fix the problem with Thessaly.
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kikitata2 · 1 month
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Oh my fucking god I am actually gonna explode and implode at the same time
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I know it’s my second time talking about these two, BUT I JUST CAN NOT GET ENOUGH OF THEM I AM SO SORRY 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
They have been so stuck in my head rent free, like I seriously can’t stop thinking about them. Ugh why are they both so hottttttttttttttt
Like there’s this fucking miserable-ass pale EMO who’s face (and just everything about him in general) is like a combination of a perfectly-crafted statue and a divine renaissance painting that I just want to not look away from because my fucking god his ethereality is astronomical:
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And then there’s this absolute BADDIE who’s energy and aura is so fucking arrogant and confident in such a badass and sexy way to the point where it’s actually so fucking hot:
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LIKE THESE TWO ARE MY WORLD FOSHCUODSHCUOHESUFOHISEFIOAEOFHFDSIOFHIODSHCOFIAHIOEFIODACHOCHOIEAIOHESFHIEAIJHDOIHIOEFOIAIHEFHIOAEOIOIEAIOHDHOAOHIFAEIHHIOFEAOIHFEAOHOEFAOOFAEHOHFOEHOAEFFEAKHFJADAJKDNASKJDSSAKJASNJK
I actually need them both to step on me rn. I literally do not care if they fucking run me over with a train. I love these two way too much
I’m so sorry for being this fucking deranged but I just can’t help it 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
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morpheusbaby3 · 8 days
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Here are the reasons why I think Morpheus x Johanna would be a good ship;
- Morpheus is sad.
- Johanna is a mess.
- Bisexuality.
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oswincoleman · 8 months
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Sandman reunion!
Jenna Coleman arrived or left the Vogue world fashion show in London yesterday together with Tom Sturridge and Alexa Chung!
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notallsandmen · 1 year
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I think there is an unspoken agreement in the Dreaming that every time Dream has had library sex, Lucienne gets to fuck Gault on his throne when he’s away
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Me: I so desperately want to read books again. I don't remember the last time I've taken a book in my hands
Also me: *everything I've been reading for the last 5 years*
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i don’t really think dream or johanna are capable of having a healthy relationship with anyone at this point in time, which is why shipping them so interesting and compelling to think about
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multiverse-of-fandom · 2 months
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Don't ship-shame me.
Say what you want, but Morphanna is just a ship waiting to sail.
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rosalynalerman · 2 years
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the sandman au when morpheus makes two rubies with no power and gives one to his soulmate. the endless want to share part of his life with his lover.
i'm down with every ship so....
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phantasmicfish · 2 years
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just the way Dream flinches back when Johanna realizes where he was for the past century:
This is probably my favorite scene in the whole show like I could write a whole ass novel based on their expressions hshshsbdbsdhdh
also I’m a sucker for characters unloading their trauma so //ships them//
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whitememo · 2 years
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"You are not Roderick Burgess"
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personinthepalace · 6 months
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Johanna x Dream of the Endless - The Sandman (So Close)
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Made this a year ago and forgot about it 😅 Hope you enjoy it :)
Song: So Close from Enchanted
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