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sophietv · 10 months

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The Love Blackout "It's all part of the f*cking story"

Ok, this is gonna be a long post. But hopefully, this will help you understand this very important piece of Kaylor evidence and explain LSK a bit better too.

PS: I'm new to Tumblr, while doing my research I'll tag those post/blogs but I don't know if there's anything else I should do, let me know!

Love Blackout Meaning

So all this Love Blackout discourse comes from those Glitch lyrics:

"But it's been 2190 days of out love blackout, the system's breaking down"

First, let's start by looking at what Love Blackout is supposed to mean:

"A suppression of information, especially one imposed on the media by the government"

Interesting... a suppression of information imposed on the medias 🤔

Like not being seen/papped together by the medias??? Maybe.

2190 days

Knowing Taylor, she wouldn't use 2190, a very specific number, for it to mean nothing would she??

So what does 2190 days means in years? It's 6 years:

Didn't she recently talked about a relationship, 6 years AND the medias recently?:

Yes! In her Lavender Haze Instagram Reel! The same where she talked about that scene in Mad Men 🤔

"If the world finds out that you are in love with somebody, they are gonna weight in on it"

"Like my relationship FOR 6 years"

Funny how she didn't say her relationship OF 6 years.

She wanted to protect the real stuff from media, in the last 6 years.

So if you count the days backward since Midnights release on October 21st 2022 it gives you Octobre 22nd 2016.

The last time Karlie and Taylor were papped together was at Drake's birthday on Octobre 23rd.

But The Love Blackout was not over on Midnights release day.

Taylor and Karlie were still not papped together at an event (they weren't papped at reputation stadium tour, they just posted a picture together). So Midnights release day should count in our calculation. And if you include that day. It ends exactly on Octobre 23rd 2016.

Before taking a deep dive into this Love Blackout, let's take a moment to talk about Octobre 2016.

Because A LOT of important stuff happened that month.

Octobre 2016

Octobre 11th 2016:

Taylor goes to diner at the Waverly Inn restaurant with Suki Waterhouse, Cara Delevigne and Dakota Johnson.

Later that evening, Suki posts a table cloth with : "It's all part of the f*cking story" written on it and a "K". She deletes it not long after. But us Gaylors have all jumped on it already.

Plus, one of Taylor body guard is papped leaving the restaurant with that Table cloth:

But what story?? What does it all mean??

Let's look at what happened in the days after this event.

I'm sure Taylor had a plan 😉

Octobre 12 2016:

Taylor goes to the Kings of Leon concert with the same friends and some more.

It's funny because, it's at this very concert, that Taylor is rumored to have started her relationship with Joe.

Are you starting to see the "f*cking story" they were talking about??

Soure iwanthermidnightz : https://iwanthermidnightz.tumblr.com/post/615953412601823232/in-conclusion

Octobre 13th 2016:

The next day. On a 13th.

Taylor, Karlie and Serena Williams go out at the Bowery Ballroom.

Yes. Yes, this combination of names is suspicious 🤔

Back to the 2190 days:

So we have established that counting backward from Midnights release and including Midnigths release day. We have Octobre 23 2016.

This was Drake's birthday party and Taylor attended with Karlie:

The article was published the next morning

In fact, it's the last time ever that they both were papped at an event together: (Love Blackout)

Two important Kaylor Lore came from that Party:

Golden tattoos "made your mark on me, a golden tattoo"

The Third Polaroid

If we follow the Love Blackout definition : "A supression of information imposed on the media"

We can stop there, everything makes sense, the song ties back to Karlie, that moment and everyone is happy.

But what if there's more to this?

The Blood Moonlit Implication

corneliastvendor did an incredible find: https://kwyw.tumblr.com/post/711447685996167168?is_related_post=1

(I also use picture of their post here)

Stay with me on that one and I swear this will all make sense!

Plus there's a lot to unpack after this.

In Glitch, there's the lyrics: "Nights are so stary, blood moonlit"

Blood moon is a lunar eclipse.

There is even a bloodmoon the Glitch Official Lyrics Video:

And when was the last lunar eclipse following Midnights release?

source: corneliastvendor

On Novembre 8th 2022.

If we count the days backward where does it lead us?

source: corneliastvendor

It leads to Novembre 9th 2016.

Karlie and Taylor last event that they attended together (except reputation) is Lorde's birthday on Novembre 7th 2016.

On Novembre 7th Taylor posted this picture:

And Karlie posted the same picture the day after on Novembre 8th:

It's the last post about them attending an event together (beside reputation).

The presidentatial election also happenened on Novembre 8th 2016, and Trump was elected... (I believe this is important).

So the last post of them at an event together is on Novembre 8th 2016. Wich means that the Love Blackout would have started the day after right?

Exactly 2190 days since the blood moonlit night followingg Midnights release.

And something tells me that this specific date is really important in their story, because here's a screenshot of The Man MV:

The. Exact. Same. Ring. and pose...

Lorde's birthday, is also the first time ever that Taylor wore the Victora Secret Angel Ring.

source: tilynation

I think she wore this ring there, knowing that they won't be seen together after as a way of being able to flag Karlie in the future.

The VS angel ring is really important and Taylor wore it at many significant events:

All the making of videos of reputation

The Call It What You Want scene of Miss Americana

On Decembre 4th 2019 (Kissgate anniversary)

So last post together before they disappear on Novembre 8th 2016, same day as the US elections.

This ties back to those lyrics: "I recall late Novembre, slowly I said, holding my breath. You don't need to save me, but would you run away with me? Yes"

Remember that in Miss Americana, it's Karlie who says "Yes".

The Love Blackout:

During that time, after Novembre 8th 2016, Taylor is mostly in London...and so is karlie.

Decembre 2016:

Taylor spends the holiday at her in-laws in St-Louis.

January 2017:

Taylor is in London.

There's a very interesting entry in her Lover Journal that talks EXACTLY about the Love Blackout:

"I'm essentially based in London, hiding out trying to protect us from the nasty world that just wants to ruin things. We have been together and no one has found out for 3 monts now"

And it is almost words for words her Lavender Haze Instagram Reel....

(Las time they were papped together, in Octobre 2016, Drake's birthday party, 3 months before)

And who was in England during the exact time frame? Karlie!

I believe the picture was posted a couple of days after.

But regardless, this is important because look at the Swans.

And now look at the Lover Merch:

Plus, Karlie did a very cute post that month with Swarovski Swans jewelery:

Refering the Eye Theory while she was at it!!!

Also, Taylor said in the Long Pond Studio Session that she went to The Lake District a couple of years ago.

And in Invisible String we have: "Bold was the waitress on our three year trip Getting lunch down by the lakes. She said I looked like an American singer"

Kaylor anniversary is March 6th 2014. So Jan 2017 is close enough to that anniversary.

Plus, 3 years for Toe would have been in 2019, wich doesn't match the "couple of years" of LPSS...

Jannuary 11th 2017:

Taylor is paped going out of a gym in LA.

It's the first time that she is paped in a couple of months.

And she wears the VS Angel Ring

source: tilynation

In the reputation secret session she explained how she was overwhelmed by this.

"her thought process was less about herself and more about how she could possibly have a normal relationship when this was her life"

Source: https://www.tumblr.com/screamedsooloud/174932790840/i-have-heard-mixed-interpretations-of-dancing-with

She then went directly to the studio and recorded Dancing With Our Hands Tied

She cried for an hour before recording the song.

Thankfully, like the song says after the Love Blackout part is that the system is breaking down.

And we had some glimpse of this with the Twitter "glitch" that made Karlie repost some of her old Kaylor post. Or her facebook being hacked...

I truly hope they are able to be free soon, they deserve it.

#kaylor #karlie #taylor #gaylor #glitch #love blackout #2190 days #toe #the fucking story #it's all part of the fucking story #lsk

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r1ghtwhereyouleftme · 6 months

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Ok ill admit I don't know as much about swiftgron as I know about kaylor, buuuut from what I've learned plus my own interpretations of the songs- here's what I'm thinking with 1989 (let people have fun and listen to the songs how we want, if you don't like that just scroll away)

I saw someone explain that most of the love songs are kaylor, sadder songs are swiftgron (and this love thats is a swiftgron song). And I think I agree there. I think this album was trying to moving on from Dianna and finding karlie, to put it simply at least

So song wise- there's only a few songs I wanna directly talk about rn. Those being the vaults and a couple others

I want to talk about style first. This one is both ships for me. I think it was written with Dianna in mind. I think thay song was first sung and created because of her. But- I think that it became about karlie. From the original VS Style performance to the Eras Style performance, I think taylor has shifted the song to be more about karlie. So written about Dianna, performed about karlie

Next is the vaults-

Slut! is kaylor. That's how I see that one. "If I'm all dressed up, they might as well be looking at us" feels like how eyes were on karlie and taylor everytime they were together. From the bff vogue video to Victoria's secret shows to kissgate. They were huge in the media back during 1989. Plus rhe feelings I get in this song are like- "for once I don't care about whay they say for once it's all worth it just to be with you" and thay falls in with a lot of kaylor songs we have

Say don't go to me feels more blurry to me im not sure on the full meaning yet. But "walk away and leave me bleeding" plus the knife mention made me think of the "remember those days" tweet. I also feel like this one could be the sadder version of how you get the girl. Like say don't go is what happened, hygtg is what tay wished happened instead or what she wished would happen. So it's like I wish you would and all you had to do was stay. Those songs all feel very very connected to me

Now that we don't talk- still working on this interpretation too. But I've seen people saying it has falling for your best friend vibes, which ofc is Kaylor. But it feels too break up like for kaylor in this era so I'm not sure

Suburban legends- kaylor. "So magnetic it's obnoxious" is very gold rush. "Kiss me in a way that's gonna screw me up forever", "class reunion" could actually be VS angels

Is it over now- possibly kaylor as well- but in the early stages where things couldve been messy and complicated. Maybe it's not actually over but she's scared it could be. Not to mention "models bed" feels pointed. "Red blood white snow" and "blue dress" makes me think of the out of the woods mv. "My clone" makes me think of karlie. So what if it's about both Dianna and karlie somehow? I have no idea this one's very alll over the place to me but in a good way

If you read this far ily you're cool

#gaylor #friends of dorothea #lgbetty #gaylor swift #kaylor #swiftgron

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9w1ft · 1 year

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"each bar plays our song" > africa by toto, often played in bars, included in kaylor playlists, and referenced by taylor directly in cornelia street > wildest dreams was filmed in africa featuring a giraffe in the same scene where she's wearing a golden dress > that song uses her heartbeat as the drum beat > "my broken drums, you have beat my heart" > "i hear the drums echo in the night" > "in the middle of the night, in my dreams / i know i'm gonna be with you so i take my time" > it's gonna take a lot to drag me away from you / gonna take some time to do the things we never had" > "there's nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do" > "i used to switch out these kens, i'd just ghost" + "i'd go back to dudes who give nothing" + "long story short, it was the wrong guy" + "i never trust a playboy, but they love me" + "some boys are trying too hard / i forgot their names now" > that's why it hits different > "i bless the rains down in africa" > "we bless the rains on cornelia street"

huh, id never payed close attention to the lyrics of this song before, thats pretty cool!

sidenote.. does africa play in bars a lot?? ive lived in japan since before i could drink so my entire drinking life has been spent here and i dont really have a grasp of american bar music 🙈

#if we’re gonna talk somewhat comparable artists at western style pubs here you’ll get a lot of journey or aerosmith or mr. big or ELO

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spade-riddles · 1 year

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Submission: What are they gonna do with the paperwork?

Hi Spade!

I'm submitting this because I wanted to explain some thoughts and ask a few questions to the rest of the fandom in case they know more than me.

So the thing for me with the second pregnancy is... how is this all gonna affect them in the future? I've been thinking of the legal /optics implications of it all and it all leaves me a bit bewildered. Let me explain why.

So what a lot of people are hoping now narrative wise is that at some point in the next year/s Karlie's contract will definitely end and she will be able to "file for divorce" with whatever narrative the choose to feed the public. I put this on quotation marks because I know the majority here thinks they are not really married and that there is no paperwork, so it will be just a show for the press.

But this is precisely one of my worries. Because yeah, Marriage licenses are private info and not disclosable under New York law as I understand it. And that's great, it gives them cover. But as far as I know its not the same for birth certificates, is it? Maybe if there's a kaylor lawyer in the room they can correct me. Maybe it is in NY.

Full disclosure: before I became a kaylor I was already a larry and Louis Tomlinson had his whole fake-baby scandal that he is draggin to this date and doesn't look like it's going to be resolved anytime soon. Long story short: what I learnt in the 1D fandom was that bird certificates, at least in California, are somewhat public records. You will get a copy of the basic info of a birth certificate if you ask for it. you can only get the full info with authorisation, but the limited copy has the name of the mother the father and the baby.

So what is the game here? Because I'm assuming that even tho they are not really married he IS the one that appears in the birth records. Or does Levi birth certificate have a blank for the father? Has anyone in fandom checked this?

In case he does appear on the records: is Taylor okay with him appearing in them as the father even tho he isn't? What's the plan? Will Karlie chose a narrative for the divorce like "I cheated 2 times and he is the father of neither of them" when the time comes so he can get purged from the records? If he does stay on the records that has real fucking consequences even if they aren't married y'all. Like he can claim custody. I doubt he wants to but you never know how low that rat can stoop. And he might want to do it to show off and show how "good of a father he is".

And on the other hand, that will imply that Taylor will always be a step-mum. Which is no practical difference in terms of how much she'll love her kids but to the general public it's another thing.

I don't know any other way the criminal can get expunged from the records that doesn't imply the cheating narrative or that he voluntarily renounces the paternity, which would not look good on him. Not to talk about what this would mean for the kids as they grow up?

I don't know man. From where I'm standing this is all incredibly delicate if our assumptions are right and all it would take for this to get out is a few curious and insistent journalists from maybe a small magazine that doesn't normally treat with their PR teams. Someone who will value more an exposé with that juicy info instead of whatever money their PR teams can offer.

Sorry this has all been so long. I hope I've made clear my concerns and that there are some lawyery kaylors around that can shed some light.

Thank you Spade

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SR: Hi! I think the answers are pretty simple. I am not a lawyer, but Google has the information. First, KK is not married to him. They conveniently got 'married' in New York, where marriage records are confidential.

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His name will not be on the birth certificate because that would be an outright lie on a public record. They would not do this:

Also, in New York and Florida (where she allegedly gave birth to the first child), birth certificates are confidential:

New York:

Florida:

Others may want to chime in as well.

#submission

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lolexjpg · 3 months

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dts s4 e1-3

e1: -OK this was my first dts epsiode EVER it is so special and nostalgic 2 me its the start of EVERYTHING i do not accept s4 slander in this house!!!!!! -daniel is SO optimistic abt mclaren thats so sad 😭😭😭😭 -i think as a first episode for me this was GREAT for setting the scene. this is the first time in the entire series where they have a dedicated segment to the team principals and their rivalries and i think that is so so so important to be able to look at it through that lense moving forward -"[bottas] was moaning and bitching like you wouldn't believe" ok whatever u say moaning and bitching multi-world champion christian horner -"toto inhereted something already well oiled" wasn't brawn/mercedes struggling till he came along or am i wrong. like he joined and a year later they won their first championship. like am i missing something -"darling, i'm not riding bottas" is such an underrated iconic dts quote -i wish i was fuckin there to see nikita crash in his first fucking lap. iconic -love it when commentators say "oh thats a reaaaally interesting strategy call" its clearly code for what the fuck are they doing -i'm so jealous of yall who got to watch this race season live this opening round is SUCH a narratively beautiful start of the season and dts captures it well!!

e2: -i've started watching this while manicly cleaning my apartment so i have nothing to say abt the beginning bit soz -max f cameo!!! v important 2 me :) -michael & daniel are so kaylor coded to me. i know some ppl are like "oh they were never friends they were just coworkers" and i'm like CLEARLY thats full of shit just bc they've fallen out doesnt mean you need to retcon the friendship they had. its sad to see when it was good bc clearly there were good parts. if only we could know -this is the danny ric girlie orgin story 2 ME LETS FUCK SHIT UP -this is such an iconic lando episode 2 me as well! "1 nill down already fuck shit fuck" thats MY baby nothing has changed clearly -"the fireworks for me?" "they can be" 🥺🥺🥺🥺 -"what if i'm just a cunt" is such an important daniel quote to me it is actually deep LISTEN. why must we be expected to be calm n collected n positive in the face of adversity. why must we put on a brave face. our negative emotions deserve to exist without defining us. ANYWAY -i never even remember what exactly happens each monaco weekend i just know that ferraris gonna shit the bed somehow -OH this episode was the FIRST time i opened ao3 carlando interact for like 10 seconds at the end of the episode and i was immediately oh theres DEFINITELY fic of them fucking. in abundance. i just know it

e3: -having season 4 be the first season i watched just permanently altered my brain chemistry the 4433 brainrot is REAL they get near eachother on track i go NUTS they are everything to me. you'd ship them too if you werent a coward -LOVE every single segment with susie. she is so wise i could listen to her narrate the whole f1 season all day -pierre still doing red bull's dirty work i see OH MY GOD HES NEVER GONNA PICK YOU -ROSCOE -unfortunately i am still and will always be a mercedes girl in my SOUL. my bad -i think lewis is taking the piss when he talks abt not being an aggressive driver. is he the /most/ aggressive driver? no. but christian is unfortunately right. also reminds me of how in the 07-08 season there was a race where he got a huge penalty bc he was "too aggressive" and there was all sorts of talk abt how he was too aggressive of a driver 🙄🙄 anyway 4433 cinematic parallels -the way ppl STILL bring this crash up gets me mad like i promise no one was trying to have a nasty crash on purpose--they just happen sometimes. no one should fault lewis for celebrating either--it was his home race and he could've easily not know and you think max would want his apologies and platitudes? NO. also currently they're both clearly not hung up on it so idk why (mostly max fans) (only some obviously) are still hung up on it. "lewis could've killed max" and max could've killed lewis in monza in that case they're fucking even let it fucking go -but there is no way that boy wasnt CONCUSSED as FUCK you can just tell with that 1000 yard stare they shouldn't have let him drive again so quickly tbh -however i DO agree w toto saying max gets away w/ driving aggressively bc most ppl will bail out and i do think that is somewhat true. not to say max is the only driver with this mindset but i do think theres some truth to that -aldskjfalksjfalksdjf im looking up articles abt the incident and this reddit thread said that alex thought the penalty was fair i am KISSING HIM on the mouth

#dtsrewatch #4&5 2day its monza time babey!!!!!#she speaks

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bisluthq · 3 years

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Hey! I'm fairly new here and I have a pretty uncommon take on Kaylor. But I just wanna start off by saying I try my best to be as supportive of LGBT people as possible and if they're both bisexual, then I would be 100% okay with that! I'm not trying to "defend their heterosexuality" or anything, I think that's really weird

Okay, so my personal theory is that Kaylor did happen, but that Taylor and Karlie are both straight. I know that might sound contradictory, but I say this based on my own personal experiences based on how I am with my best friend. I think Karlie and Taylor's relationship might have been similar in some ways to ours

Right, so I'm straight and I'm not into women in the gay kind of way (but it's completely cool that some girls are), and I have this roommate who's gorgeous. Really gorgeous, she's like a 10/10 "I would sell my kidney to look like you" kind of girl. She's very attractive, she has like tan skin and long legs and gorgeous brown hair and pretty eyes and nice lips and just like… she's just very good looking. I'm definitely jealous of her body, I won't even pretend I'm not 😪 I lowkey hate her because of it (jk)

We've been living together since not long before COVID started, and we're very good friends. There were three of us before, but our other roommate went back home to stay with her parents until in person classes are back on and we agreed to it and worked something out because she has really bad anxiety so we understood her reasoning for it

Anyway so it's just been us two and because we've been at home a lot during this time instead of out for most of the day like before, we've gotten to know each other a lot better and have become a lot closer. We were already friends from before, but now we're like super close besties, we've been hanging out a lot together and playing board games, watching movies, helping each other with essays, just having long conversations about anything and everything, etc

Like it's been so nice having a best friend that I can be this close to now because I haven't had a best friend since I was a kid

So my friend and I were having like a conversation last year about how hard it's been in quarantine not being able to go on dates and how we miss kissing people, and so we decided to just like, make out for fun you know. I mean, there's not really anything that's inherently romantic or sexual about making out, that's just society that says that. But tbh I think making out with your friends if you want to should be normalized, it's fun and it can even be emotional sometimes. It's not that different from hugging people

After a couple of weeks or so, I think we got bored of just making out with each other and decided to like, fully hook up. It started off because we were modelling lingerie for each other for banter and were pretending we were each other's runway judges and then I think we just decided to hook up with each other as like part of the whole "game". I can't remember who initiated it now, I think it might have been me as a joke lol

Like just in a platonic way for fun, as a kind of substitute until we can go back into society

And tbh I always expected hooking up with a woman to be like mediocre and boring and awkward, but although it was a bit hard to get the hang of at first and there was a learning curve, it's actually very enjoyable. Like I was very surprised actually at how hot it can be, I think I can maybe see why bisexual women and lesbians like doing it

Anyway we both liked it and we just carried on hooking up on the regular and it's been like 8 months now and tbh I just think it's very sweet and heartwarming, like it actually makes me feel a little emotional how we're close enough and care about each other enough that we can even help each other out with the physical intimacy side of things so that we don't get sexually frustrated while we're stuck in lockdown

I just think it's really cool and we even sleep in the same bed most of the time now because tbh what's the point in sleeping alone when you can sleep in the same bed as someone else? It's nicer, like you can cuddle and stuff

Anyway, I think that maybe Kaylor's relationship might have been similar. I think they're both straight but they became really close friends in a short space of time, and that their friendship was so intense that it became physical but in a platonic way

I think lesbians and bisexual women are amazing and I have so much respect for you guys for accepting yourselves in a society that tries to erase you, and I think there definitely needs to be more wlw representation on TV and in movies

But at the same time, I would also like there to be more close female friendships like the one that me and my friend have where you can just talk about everything together and do things that society usually reserves for romantic partners, but in a platonic way. Because female friendship is really important and beautiful, whether that's between straight women like me and my friend who I think is probably straight too, or between queer women because one thing I've learnt during my short time on this blog is how queer women can have very close platonic friendships with other queer women too

I think society just has overly strict ideas of "straight" and "gay". Like for some people, they would hear about two women sleeping together and think "Oh that's gay", but not necessarily because straight women can enjoy sleeping with other women too, like it's normal 🤷‍♀️

I think it's just a result of women being a lot more physically beautiful than men are, like straight women really got the short end of the stick tbh compared to straight men

I also think it's because women are so oversexualized in the media, and obviously straight girls see that too and so we sort of internalize that attraction to women because we're so used to seeing women being presented in a sexual way? Except it's not real attraction with us like how it is for queer girls

Like I'm very much "attracted" to my friend, she's genuinely stunning and just very hot tbh. But I still identify as straight because it's just a case of what I mentioned above, it's a "fake" attraction. And also because men are afraid to compliment other men because it's seen as "gay", but women can be fully confident in their sexuality and still recognize other women's beauty and sex appeal. You see it all the time in instagram comments, and I really love how we're all so supportive of each other like that

Like I can be fully confident in my sexuality and yet still say that some women like my friend are gorgeous as hell and also 100 times better looking than most men I've seen. I'm very much obsessed with some women's appearances but in a platonic way

And I just love the concept of "girl crushes" and I think that from a feminism viewpoint, it's beautiful that we're focusing on other girls and showing love towards other girls too, instead of just to men who, let's be real, don't even fully appreciate it half of the time

I am going to be sad when we all have to return to life as usual and my friend and I won't be able to spend as much time together anymore. I'm dreading it tbh, I don't want it to end yet. And it really sucks that the physical side of our friendship will probably have to stop too once our other roommate comes back because I think she'd definitely misunderstand the situation and think it's something different than it actually is if she ever saw us kissing or something. I really am going to miss it a lot though, I really like how things currently are and it's just really really nice and I don't want it to change :/

Btw I'm sorry if I sounded fetishistic or offensive with any of this, I just get a bit jealous sometimes that you guys get to date girls and we're just stuck with men. Honestly if it wasn't for all of the homophobia and the struggles that you all have to face and the fact that it would feel disrespectful to the LGBT community, I would probably really wish I could change my sexuality to be bisexual or gay instead because I just think women are better. Sometimes I really do wish I was into women in that way because dating girls just sounds so much more appealing to me (in a non fetishizing weird way) but unfortunately I'm stuck with dating men 🤦‍♀️ But I also know I'm lucky and privileged to be straight even though most men are mediocre and kinda gross and I don't mean to be disrespectful because I know you all have to face homophobia and other LGBT difficulties and it really sucks, people are awful. There's nothing wrong with women dating women or men dating men at all, society is just ugly and bigoted

Anyway, does anybody else have a similar sort of take on Kaylor where they think they could have both been straight and just had a very close friendship with a physical side to it? I think it would explain a lot. But like I said, this is just a theory of mine based on my own situation, and I'm also open to the idea that it was an actual relationship and that they're both into women for real, not just fake "into women" like I am.

Also pls feel free to call me out if I accidentally said anything offensive towards LGBT people, I tried my best but if I made a mistake anywhere pls let me know and I'll avoid it next time!

You’re not offensive. Please stop apologizing. And we’re gonna come back to the Kaylor stuff another time because... Honey. You and I need to have a conversation for a bit.

So firstly, I’m not trying to like “diagnose” you and at the end of the day it’s your choice what you want to call yourself but... tbh you might not be straight. Sexuality is fluid not static and exists on a spectrum not in absolutes. It’s not like it’s straight, 50/50 bi, gay and you’re born knowing and there’s no room for anything else. That’s not true. There’s a lot of room in between all of these and labels can change over time. We’re people, not cereal brands, and sometimes we don’t even KNOW the word for what we might be. I’m tagging a tag for you from when we asked people to share their label journeys for you to see. It’s not simple or easy and it’s not just because of external stuff - it’s because figuring this out internally is HARD. If you found yourself having such an intense friendship it became physical, repeatedly, you liked it a lot, you still sleep in the same bed and continue to share all your thoughts and you don’t want any of that to end... I’m not sure you’re Kinsey 0. And I think you might lowkey have a girlfriend dude.

You can obviously prefer men but like... hun I reaaallly don’t think you’re completely straight.

Also: it’s okay to say “I see myself winding up with a man and this is a situationship for right now!” but that doesn’t make you straight because again, sexuality is a spectrum and you can manifest a particular kind of endgame while experiencing other things along the way.

But here’s where you really got me: “most men are mediocre and kinda gross” and “women being a lot more physically beautiful than men are, like straight women really got the short end of the stick tbh compared to straight men” because that’s the kind of thing I used to say in my Bi 1.0 era before I ID’d as a lesbian for a bit and before Harry Styles (KING 🥺) made me bi for real. Hun, no. Straight women like men. Tbh BI women like men. I genuinely, unironically, find Harry and Timmy and Matt Smith to be sexy beasts and I would do dirty things to the former two but maybe not the latter irl in 2021 but yes also him if I could be on that Spain trip with him and Karen where they got sloshed and which I think of often. These men are genuinely fucking beautiful to me in the same way Taylor is and Di Silvers is (okay she’s prettier than all of them but like same ~vibe) and like Megan Thee Stallion is and Indira Varma in everything but especially GOT and Gillian Anderson and Keira Knightley. Like those women are HOT to me and SO. ARE. THE. MEN.

Straight women find SO MANY DUDES hot. So many. Starting from objectively pretty options I just cannot personally understand like Chris Evans all the way through to bitches who are outchea simping for wrestlers and Cole Sprouse. Do I understand? No. But like... that’s straight girl culture and ours is not to judge.

If you’re struggling to find men hot then... you might be gay.

Also, I’m not sure what you mean by “fake attraction”. Like queer women - especially femme women which I assume you very much are - experience the same kinds of feelings straight girls do. We have women we want to be like and look like and find enviable (me and Oenone Forbat) and women we find aesthetically gorgeous (me and Anya Taylor Joy) and we have extremely close female friends who we can spend hours on end spilling our guts to - as you say female friendships are truly special - and without going into personal people that you don’t know, that’s me and Cam and Sim right? I literally talk to them for hours. Like those are not gay feelings. And yes we can chat about those kinds of feelings with straight girls and call them “girl crushes” and not immediately get “caught out” because they experience this exact shit too.

But here’s the thing. They never do and I don’t want in the cases above to fuck these women. It’s not sexual.

The moment I can actually imagine fucking the women in question that’s... gay.

Like it’s not “fake attraction” it’s literally just gay. That’s how we desire women. We want to fuck them. Not all women. Not always. But sometimes we want to get under or on top of one and just really truly fucking make each other moan with pleasure.

I have no idea if Karlie or Taylor are into women. They could both literally be straight. I have no idea.

But I have a better idea about you.

Hun, you’re fucking your roommate/best friend and don’t want to stop.

You’re not “into women”.

You’re into this woman.

And possibly into women more generally.

So I know it’s weird to have to be the one to tell you this, and if you want to keep chatting via anon or in my DMs or if you want me to try collate resources for you from around the web but...

Like.

Dude.

You’re a whole ass part of the rainbow.

Welcome to the community you thought you weren’t a part of earlier today 🌈 ❤️

It’s nice here, sure there’s homophobia, but at least we get to fuck girls and man is it good.

#agony aunat #share your label journey #roommate anon <3

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We really are 🤡.. i honestly dont know with taylor anymore. I still believe in them of course, and i never will believe any of her beards, there's too much evidences of otherwise, but is it bad if i'm not expecting much from her anymore? Not to be a downer.. it's just so hard to root for after years and years.. of course it's always gonna be her choice if she ever comes out or not, it's just the hope is painful sometimes? The constant hate by hetlors is also quite hurtful across all platforms. Idk it's starting to feel like masochism sometimes. Again i'm sorry to be a downer! Just wanted to let that bad feels out hahahah. Happy new year!! You're one of my fave kaylor blogs btw! I love that you always care for Karlie and her chunga mungga :)

Thank you for your kind words Anon. Yeah I get how you feel. It’s okay to be a downer sometimes. You feel how you feel. (But not a fan of anons that use harsh language). I think this is part of the deconstruction of celebrity we all have to do. I’ve found a happy space where I can laugh at all the pr stuff and just watch but it does get tiring. At the end of the day you have to remember that these celebrities are going to do what’s best for them. They don’t really care about outsider opinions about their personal lives because they rarely go looking for them. It is wild that Taylor’s approach to garnering loyal followers by making fans feel like friends has led to fans on all sides of the fandom feeling like she owes them something. Even though she was willingly giving them that access before. And it also gives certain fans the freedom to attack in her name. It sucks.

That’s why I say you gotta protect yourself and remember that you can take breaks. Fomo is hard but it’s peaceful. Protect your peace! 💜 happy new year 🎆!

And yeah gotta give it to kk for having a wildly weird year with highs and lows. Hope she’s enjoying her break with her family.

#anons

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tay-westvillage · 4 years

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28 SECRET MESSAGE FROM TAYLOR SWIFT

Happy International Women's Day 🌎 💃

Her new Playlist 👇

Why 28? Because who born in 1992?

The Man

"I'd be a fearless leader, I'd be an alpha type"

Number One Fans

"I would give my life just to hold your hand, I'm your number one fan"

Delete Forever

"Guess it's just my rotten luck, To fill my time with permanent blue"

Sometimes

"Feel like my faith keep getting tested, I need a sign, I need a message, 'cause sometimes"

People, I've Been Sad

"It's true, that people, I've been sad, I've been gone, I've been missing out, And missing out for way too long"

Where Do You Go?

"With all this worry in my head, I'll stay up as late as I can, Til you come home, come home"

Door

"Sometimes I don't know who I'm singing to, Who is the you who I sing to, When the house is empty?, You open the door"

She's Play Bass

"Yes, we're both stuck in the same boat, The world doesn't seem to get us though, You're just stuck in space, Just playing your bass"

Sugar Honey Iced Tea

"Don't do this shit to be famous, I do this shit 'cause I love it, I shot an arrow said, "Fuck it", How you want what I have?, You ain't workin' yourself, That toxic energy shit, Ain't really good for your health"

Now, I'm In It

"Locking all the doors to my house, I'm alone in my head, But I wish you were in my bed, Can't get a read on myself, Gotta change this situation, Something in the way that I felt when I woke up, Told me that I shouldn't give in, give up hope, Told me that I shouldn't fight what I felt, Told me I should not let go 'cause, We cannot be friends, Cannot pretend, That it makes sense"

Better Now (sad)

"Never been scared about the future, Don't think I'll make it, if I lose you (Lose you)"

Garden Song

"No, I'm not afraid of hard work, And I did everything I want, I have everything I wanted"

Come Home To Me

"Maybe I did you wrong and made you bleed, Maybe you made mistakes that got me on my knees , And maybe we're a mess, but it works for me, 'Cause I know that every time you leave, you come home to me"

Official (Kaylor first kiss)

"I remember our first date, No chocolate and no bouquet, But the way that you kissed me,These are the things that could make us official"

Rare

"Oh, why don't you recognize I'm so rare, Always there, You don't do the same for me, That's not fair"

Backseat

"At the party, The song takes me back, To last December, Or something like that, And I remember how we felt so old, We fell in love and no one had to know"

She's My Sunshine

"Tell me, what do I know?, Just one thing, one thing, one thing, Let me tell you one thing, She is my sun, She won't forget I'm here, High when my day disappears"

My Own Dance

"So, the internet called and it wants you back, But could you kinda rap and not be so sad?" Fuck it"

Edge of My Seat

"So you keep picking us up, And I've been seeing moments of us, Where we're feeling like we're right on the cusp, Of something better and I know that we're stuck, But I heard that they're looking for us, Yeah, they know about us, tired, It's a puzzle how to please"

Keeping It In The Dark (kissgate rumors)

"I hear rumours, let them fly, It's you and me, And they don't have to know, Oh, they don't have to know, Oh, they speculate, But let's just make them wait, 'Cause they don't need to know, Nobody needs to know, Keep, keep, keeping it in the dark (It's our little secret)"

Georgia

"Is it unnatural? Georgia, is it cool? I wanna tell you that I love you"

Watching My Phone

"And I know I can't be the million girls you're gonna meet, And I think that's alright, I apologize, for holding you so right, you couldn't breathe, And thinking you'd be fine, And I'm alone, Watching my phone, Thinking about you, baby"

More (watching old pictures)

"And would you know it right away, How hard I tried to see your face?, A little screen, a photograph, mine to take, And when you decide it's your time to arrive, I've loved you for all of my life, And nothing could stop me from giving a try, I've loved you, for all of my life want you more, Somehow, I just want you more."

Feel Me

"Every time your lips touch another, I want you to feel me, Every time you dance with somebody, I want you to feel me"

About Love

"My head gets messy when I try to hide, The things I love about you in my mind, I don't really know a lot about love, But you're in my head, you're in my blood, And it feels so good, it hurts so much"

Stay With Me

"I've had nothing but trouble, And bad news on the line for such a long time, The only break I get is laughing 'til my eyes are wet with you"

Closer To You

"The things you do, Only make me want to get closer to you, And the things that you say, Only make me want to stay, Can't push me away, I'm not going, I'll wait, You know this street runs two ways, say So I need to hear your voice, Know I'm standing here by choice, And I can't hear the background noise, anyway"

Womxn

"And there’s a girl inside saying this is the wrong move, Ooh but there’s a woman inside saying this is the truth, I wonder what to say to her, Question where I wanna be, I stop judging her, I tell her who I wanna be"

cc: @taytaysbeard @taylorswift @9w1ft @iwanthermidnightz

#taylor swift #apple music playlist #secret message #woman great art #support female artist #8 March #International Women's Day

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karliesbuzzcut · 4 years

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Kaylor´s Throwback Thursday: October 18th, 2018

Hello and welcome to the our second edition of KTBT. Because many of you asked for it, today we are putting on our fanciest gowns and travelling back to Karlie Kloss’ wedding.

To understand everything that’s been going on, we need a bit of historical context. Taylor Swift has just arrived in Perth, Australia, for her Reputation Tour and therefore, didn’t attend the wedding. The wedding per se seems to have been kept secret, although there were rumours about something going on.

Also happening around this time: Jamal Khashoggi, a Saudi journalist, was assassinated at the Saudi consulate in Istambul. What does something so horrible have to do with Karlie Kloss’ wedding? I’m not sure but TTB brought it up.

TTB’s confidence in herself is almost admirable. Not only to @ Karlie, Taylor, Tree, Penni and Karlie’s sister on her thoughts but also to use “stunt” as an adjective. Stunty... nice. By the way, that super official document she links also states that Josh was born on the 00 of June. Just thought you’d like to know that.

But I’m getting ahead of myself. I’m sorry, I’m just too excited. Let me set the scene for you. It’s October 18th, 2018. Apparently Karlie had been “stunting” hard for a few days now... when the bomb drops. TTB receives a buttload of messages and do you want to know something? The messages aren’t even that exciting. I think the most interesting thing of going through those messages was noticing how Kaylors have clung to the same mantras they use today. You know what I mean, the “Karlie looks miserable!” “I have a second cousin who had a wedding and her wedding didn’t look like Karlie’s wedding so...” “You can tell it’s just a business deal from the way Karlie smiles”.

Anyway, what do you think happened the very next day? Spade stopped by, of course. TTB Spade can smell weakness on Kaylors and knows that nothing fixes the problem quite as well as some vague sentence. This time it was an answer to the question “When do you think we will receive the first Taylor Swift and Karlie Kloss friendship candid?” Which they simply answered with a direct quote from Call It What You Want “I recall late November, holdin’ my breath / Slowly I said ‘You don’t need to save me / But would you run away with me?’” Because why come up with your own shit, amiright. Either way, the legend says that if you’re very quiet at the end of every November, you can hear a disappointed Kaylor cry.

Soon after, TTB followed up. You can read the message yourself, I will post it here, but I can also summarise it for you in the form of a Haiku.

It did not happen.

My sources told me it’s false.

Hollywood PR.

If you pay attention, you can notice TTB’s very own stages of grief. First, she “threatened” Karlie’s parents (“All eyes on you Kurt and Tracy”). Then there’s denial (to be fair, there’s alway denial). And then, she resorted to guilting her subjects.

I mean, I just love that she keeps tagging Kimby here. “Kimby, your sister’s marriage is forcing people back into the closet. You better do something, Kimby... NOW KIMBY👏!”

And then TTB made a little test? I’m adding this post here, not because of it’s quality but because I’m a little bit confused by it. She listed a bunch of facts like the dress’ designer, the bridesmaids’ dresses, the cake’s brand and Jewish symbolisms. And I guess all of that is supposed to lead us somehow to the wedding not being real but to me it reads as “I watched a wedding once on TV, what is this?”

But let’s take a break from TTB and move on to thabrokegirl. She was definitely working through some feelings. I tried taking a picture of her entire manifesto but it didn’t fit my screen. I did select the best parts though.

The first one was mostly for my own amusement, not gonna lie. TBG goes on about how weird it is that it took 6 years for Karlie and Josh to get married. And here I am, older than Karlie, with a boyfriend I’ve been dating for almost 9 years... finding out today of all days, that I have problems... like commitment issues, this was never in the stars for us because it would’ve happened already. 😳

I don’t know how many Gilmore Girls’ fans I have in the audience tonight. But there’s an episode in season 7 where Lorelai is struggling to write a very important letter. She’s advised to write whatever comes into her head, to which she responds that it’s a bad idea and I cite:

Because my brain is a wild jungle full of scary gibberish. "I'm writing a letter. I can't write a letter. "Why can't I write a letter? I'm wearing a green dress. "I wish I was wearing my blue dress. "My blue dress is at the cleaners. "'The Germans wore gray. You wore blue. ''Casablanca'. "'Casablanca' is such a good movie. "'Casablanca.' The white house. Bush. "Why don't I drive a hybrid car? I should drive a hybrid car. "I should really take my bicycle to work. "Bicycle. Unicycle. Unitard. Hockey puck. Rattlesnake. Monkey, monkey, underpants."

And it is that stream of consciousness that thabrokegirl perfectly depicted on her piece.

Meanwhile, FemmeTay is surprisingly very chill about this.

Finally, there’s TallCurlyGirl, who made me regret the fact that I wasn’t around during her prime. After all, she wasn’t a shipper - she was just a regular tall curly girl burdened with the superpower of reading Taylor’s and Karlie’s minds and who -therefore- had the responsability of sharing her findings with the whole world... up until she got bored Karlie and Taylor broke up.

Please enjoy a vintage selection of ‘I Have Sources™’ which -as most things Kaylor- have aged hilariously bad:

My favourite part is PR people shitting their pants and calling Tree for help 🌝...

What was your favourite part?

*5 second silence while I look at your with dead eyes*

I like that part too!

#kaylor #karlie kloss #ttb #ktbt

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i'm hoping this album is like... retroactive kaylor. it's taylor reflecting on who she realizes is her "long lost love, karlie." that way, the beards are safe. i don't think ppl would be surprised if it came out that karlie and taylor did really have something romantic going on in 2014/2015. it'd be more surprising/jarring if they had a thing this whole time. at least to the gp. we shall see!

idk the album is way too raw and real for me to entertain this theory tbh but i won’t say it’s impossible. it feels like the problems she talks about and complicated feelings she has are real ones, and i feel like you can really tell the difference between some of the self-censoring done in lover (where she’ll say something like “staring out the window like i’m not your favourite town” > staring at something other than taylor herself but not really being specific about what the object of that stare is) vs folklore which explicitly talks about affairs. it feels to me like the difference between an album where she was still trying to preserve the public image with joe (she’s not going to talk about themes like infidelity explicitly while she’s with him that would be a mess) and had hope things would work out without getting into those things vs some big disaster occurring that made her go fuck it and just talk about her feelings candidly which is how folklore feels to me. esp with a song like exile coming out on karlie’s birthday when that’s v much not a hopeful song.

which doesn’t necessarily mean they broke up, or that if they broke up they didn’t get back together - there are weird coincidences like karlie’s posts and the easter egg-ish timing that make me confused and not ready to say with certainty that i feel like i know where they’re at - but wherever that place is i know that if i told my therapist something like “don’t want no other shade of blue but you no other sadness in the world would do” she’d be like uhhh OKAY we are going to talk about that now. so like i’m not saying i think their relationship is unsalvageable but i do think without actual therapy they’re gonna be going in circles like this for a loooong time, if they haven’t called it quits altogether.

#Anonymous

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What do you consider actively outing Taylor? IF people truly believe she is gay and closeted, isn't sending power points of Kaylor proofs and sharing them (and yes interviewing) with journalists an attempt at outing her? Or sending blinds to gossip sites to "prove" any of the parties involved are gay (yes people have admitted to this) isn't outing them? And lastly, isn't commenting on Karlie's SM posts where everyone will see an attempt to out them? I'm asking seriously, because to me it is.

i don't know what my personal line would be beyond like... someone going public with literal proof, like photos, video, something concrete. 99% of the stuff we talk about is literally all just fake stories about insiders or lyric analysis or riddles for god sake lmao. is it because jill talked to the wapo? is that why this is such a concern rn?

like... sometimes i think you all want me to say any speculation about kaylor is evil and idk, i'm not gonna say that. i acknowledge that the public scrutiny is very hard and taylor has definitely said so, and publicly pulled back as a result, and i feel like i talk about that plenty

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I keep seeing a lot of doubts lately about LSK which makes me spiral and think maybe they really are over. But then they also flag each other constantly to the point where it cannot be "accidental" or even an "idgaf war" but especially not the latter coz why would 2 extremely successful women in their 30s(!!), one (or both? 🤭) with kids, actively fuel an idgaf war. Both these things to me make as little sense as to how Kaylor having kids together does to some others. Rather, kids together kinda makes more sense to me than an idgaf war 🤷‍♀️

Sorry to kinda rant here but didn't want to post this on Twitter and this just felt like a safer place to do so...feel free to add your thoughts!

Hi!

First. I'm really glad that you feel like my blog is a safe space to ask your question. It is! 🫶

Second I understand how this can be very confusing, there's so many different discourse and at some point it's difficult to see wich one makes more sense.

LSK or Kaylor hate has been around for a very long time now. Over the years, really really often people have tried to make the Kaylor discourse die down.

2016 was - We have to respect Taylor and Calvin!

We learn very quickly that he was a beard...

2018 was - Karlie is engaged and getting married

Taylor and Karlie continues flagging, Lover is out and it's pretty undeniable to everyone that they were still together even after Karlie's wedding.

2019 was - Karlie betrayed Taylor! (Thank god this one died down quickly in the gaylor community...)

There was also : She chose Josh! We need to respect that.

2020 - It was almost illegal to even talk about Kaylor theories anywhere. You were shut down practically immediatly.

2021 - Was even worse with Levi.

So you see, as much as I understand the point of view that since there's children involved some people are unconfortable talking about that. But at the same time, the "hate" toward Kaylors have been very much present for a long time now.

But yeah. The IDGAF war is the most childish argument I have seen over the years. And it's wrong in so many ways... But you are totally right that two woman in their 30s wouldn't go to that extent to get to the other...at least I really hope so.

But saying that there's a IDGAF war going on is admitting to seeing the flagging that they are both doing in some way.

Taylor flags Karlie and people say: She is unable to move on! She's gonna get over Karlie her whole life! She needs therapy asap...

Two minutes later, they are shipping Taylor with another woman...I truly wouldn't want to be this other person dating someone who is still as hung up over their ex... but it might be just me.

The same week Karlie flags Taylor the same way, and they go: She's doing it for clouts! She's profiting of the 50 person that think that they are still together to get interaction on her posts. (Do I need to tell you how Karlie doesn't need this kind of attention, or how Kaylors number are insignificant to give her interaction. In fact I'm sure that for some companies, having Kaylors/Gaylors interacting on her post is a liability...)

Karlie has no control on her social media and doesn't know how to do easter egg. Must be a gaylor trolling us.

Recently there was also: Karlie and Taylor are both doing this for PR to cover Taylor's relationships with a secret girl... If the girl ain't an aspiring queen in a foreign country... I have a really hard time seeing how it would be ok, and preferable to make some people believe that she has anything to do with Karlie and the children. This would be wrong in so many different ways...

So yeah. I can totally understand someone who's not confortable with the children discourse though.

After all. This is a though pill to swallow. Because to entertain the possibility that this can be true. You have to admit that Hollywood is truly that toxic and archaic place where most likely a lot of other artists like Karlie and Taylor are forced to closet this way... and this is a rough reality check.

So I guess what I want to say with all this is that I don't have anything against other theories.

I'm just really unconfortable with the hate and the tendency to try and shut lsk theories down... because most of the time this is not well intended and not done in a friendly way.

#kaylor #lsk #koicidences #anon ask

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