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awkward-sultana · 27 days
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One thing I always really found powerful about this scene was the fact that Mahidevran's head scarf fell off. I don't know if it was on purpose but I think it's great symbolism. Why would she care if these non-familial men saw her hair? What does she care about "morality" or "modesty" or "shame"? She just lost everything. Why would she show deference to a God that has taken her life from her? Take your beliefs and bare witness to my pain.
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magnificentlyreused · 4 months
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This green shirt with black dots was first worn by Şehzade Mehmed in the tenth episode of the first season of Magnificent Century. It was used again three times in the second season, first on Şehzade Bayezid in the fourteenth episode, then on Şehzade Selim (later Sultan Selim II) in the eighteenth episode and lastly on Şehzade Cihangir in the the twenty-ninth episode. The shirt was also worn twice in the fourth season by Şehzade Murad (later Sultan Murad III) and Şehzade Bayezid's son Mehmed in the eleventh and thirty-fourth episode, respectively.
Magnificent Century: Kösem used the shirt three times during its first season on Şehzade Osman (later Sultan Osman II), Şehzade Mehmed and Şehzade Ibrahim (later Sultan Ibrahim) in the fifteenth, twentieth and twenty-first episodes.
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chaos-of-the-abyss · 3 months
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still baffled at the show using mihrimah to single out selim as a fratricide committer as if bayezid... wouldn't also have done the same thing to him? like are we expected to believe bayezid would have held a nice tea party if he had been the winner? and mind you isn't mihrimah accepting selim's death at bayezid's hands by supporting bayezid's plan to march on selim? why is selim considered the only morally heinous one? ofc fratricide is a terrible thing to do, but it's weird to see selim targeted as if he's the sole person to commit it when it's been protocol for several generations, and he and his own son (to say nothing of nurbanu) would have suffered the same fate if he hadn't been the one to come out on top
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redrosecut · 3 months
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Since @hurremhasckis commented on Bayezid doing art, I think I should share my HC that I think that either Hürrem or one of his teachers originally made him paint dishes to calm his impulsivity since it is a very fine and delicate art where you need to do things calmy and with precision.
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hurremmylove · 1 year
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Bayezid: I've found a foolproof way to tell if someone's evil
Mustafa: Which is?
Bayezid: If they dislike Cihangir,
they're evil
Mustafa: *watches Cihangir eating apple slices and humming twinkle twinkle little star*
Mustafa: That is pretty sound logic
actually-
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nesiacha · 2 months
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I repeat one of my comments posted on Youtube
If I had my say on the way Suleiman's children were portrayed, because like a lot of people, I didn't like the way it was written in Magnificent Century, that's what I would do. ( In my eyes, Mustafa was seen as a pure white sehzade, which therefore made him in my eyes more stupid and less interesting than he actually was. Mehmed was practically erased of his personality and seen as a pure Gary Stu like his half brother. Cihangir, who I adore, yet in the series was too naive. Selim is seen as evil, etc...)
I would respect the historical point of view more. I propose an alternative version, I would have added Suleiman's children he had when he was sehzade with his other concubines before he became Sultan and met Hurrem and then had them die of the plague as it was historically.
Sehzade Mustafa - I would keep his childlike personality, except he is not close to his siblings (because of the fratricidal law), and I wouldn't put him close to Ibrahim at least until he becomes an adult and allies himself with him. I would let his mother take care exclusively of his education. A young man who craves recognition and attention from his father, who often neglects him in return over his other children due to the fact that Mahidevran is the Sultan's least beloved concubine. The more he becomes an adult, and especially a father, the more he resents his father because of the way he treats his mother and him. He does not really understand his father and therefore his fears due to the fact that he did not grow up close to him. I would keep his efficient heir personality because he performs very well despite his father never teaching him well because of his mother who is a very good advisor. Instead of doing something for his military glory or showing off his harem too much, I would focus on how he improves the lives of common people exhausted by too much conquest. I would make his guilt very ambiguous, at the start it is clear that he wants to wait for his father to die to have the throne and restore his mother's honor, however, he realizes that his father lets his vizier lead his life impossible to see even encourages him, does not hide that he preferred to have a son of Hurrem on the throne no matter what Mustafa will do. Following this, the sehzade wants to have a second plan like his grandfather in case Suleiman wants to abdicate in favor of another of his sons which would put him in danger (which could explain the Venetian correspondence, others say that it was a plan to prevent his brothers from escaping if one day he became Sultan) but hesitates to actually carry it out, then after some hesitation goes to his father's tent and gets strangled. Instead of doing Atmaca, I would focus on Mustafa's son-in-law, Nergissah's husband who started as Rustem's ally and becomes his most loyal supporter ( it seems that it is more a legend than truth, but I didn't remeber well as I didn't have on me my books of historian like Halil Inalcık) . So I would avoid making a treacherous Sehzade, his mistakes would be understandable, but he wouldn't be a pure white Sehzade.
Sehzade Mehmed: it's more complicated for him because he died without having proven himself in a complicated province like Amasya, so it's quite difficult to make a comparison with Mustafa. But I would make sure to give him a real personality: initially close to some of his brothers like Selim and Bayezid, he becomes, despite his mother, more distant towards them because of the fratricide (Mehmed II had therefore legalized it there is not much way to escape from it at the time unlike MCK) although he is very close to Cihangir and his sister. Unlike Mustafa, his father trained him in the regency of the palace and he did very well by dint of advice and practice. When he is sent to the provinces, he often listens to his mother's advice when she visits him. Knowing that he has the support of the statesmen against Mustafa he realizes knowing his father better than his half brother that he will have to play the role of the obedient sehzade not interested in politics although deep down he prepare for it. He has the happiness of being a father but dies immediately afterwards.
Mihrimah Sultan- I would make sure to respect the historical Hurrem who wants her daughter to have a marriage of love and happiness. However Suleiman prefers Rustem, and she accepts him immediately because she will do everything to save her brothers and convince her mother to accept this marriage. I would rather show her as a politician as well as her diplomatic relations. However, I would underline the unjust side of Suleiman, he had Mustafa executed and condemned Mahidevran to poverty but refuses to punish Mihrimah by banishing her because she would have helped Bayezid financially during his rebellion. Their relationship would be cold for a time before reconciling. She will be reconciled with her brother Selim because basically they only remain and will be an ally of Nurbanu.
Sehzade Abdullah- I would have included him even if he died very young.
Sehzade Selim- Initially a cultured young man very focused on charity work like his mother and sister and very sober. Nevertheless it is often sad due to the law of fratricide. When Mustafa dies, he realizes he has a chance to escape it and he will fight in a wicked way especially for his son Murad because he knows that Bayezid's temper will put him in danger besides fratricide. He knew how to recruit powerful and efficient state members. He is on the whole an obedient sehzade but who is disgusted with his father's treatment of Mahidevran (after all she is no longer a threat to him she no longer has a son) and who will take risks to her by helping her financially. As the hardships go on, his depression increases he drinks more and more especially after his sister takes the part of Bayezid, that his brother Bayezid dies, and the fact that he is obliged to make other sons in the case where Murad dies without an heir which means that he knows that his other sons will be condemned to death. He has become a broken leader although he makes sure there is effective governance.
As a Sultan he must face his father's mistakes, including the way he led the Empire, including too many wars and unnecessary conquests in Europe. ​
Sehzade Bayezid- Him complicated. Due to his explosive temper he is the black sheep of his siblings (Mustafa does not count since he is a half brother, they do not even know each other) and the most incompetent of Suleiman's sons and Suleiman is worried because he has inherited the worst faults of Selim Yavuz like being angry easily (without having had his qualities). Yet deep down he wants affection and that's why he has several children even if it's irresponsible, his mother favors him because she's afraid for him because he has too impulsive nature . Mihrimah comes to his aid only in memory of his mother, because deep down she prefers Selim, Bayezid knows this, which means that he hardly listens to her. She only helps him financially as a last resort because she couldn't convince him to call off the rebellion. Suleiman was more lenient to his mistakes that Mustafa (we could once again underline the unfair side of Suleiman again with this) until the point that he took refuge to the Shah.
Sehzade Cihangir- A cultured young man very close to his parents and very sick. I would make him a supporter of Selim because although he is close to him, he also knows that he is his only chance of survival because he is not close to Bayezid at all. He often sends information from the Palace to Selim to better aid him in managing his province and at times advises him to be more ruthless in his quest for the throne while remaining an obedient sehzade. It would therefore be a good adviser for Selim (and it would give him more personality). He cannot therefore be limited to the role of a simple supporter but also of a valuable advisor.
And that's how I would portray them if I were in the place of the screenwriters. They are all very nuanced (we avoid all white or all black), we can freely pick a favorite without trying to favor another sehzade at all costs, and I try to be consistent with what we know about them and try to explain why they did mistakes or make sucess.
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nuclearfox12 · 4 months
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dominadespina · 3 months
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BEST OF BOTH WORLDS
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Depiction of Despina Hatun on one of the stained glass windows in placed on the north facade of St. George Cathedral in Novi Sad.
Created in 1902 by Hungarian artist Imre Zseller ( 1878-1959).
The stained glass depicts Despina Hatun holding a cross; showing her devotion to her faith. Something interesting and catching about her attire is that adding to her simple Serbian clothing she also has a golden turban adorned on her head; depicting her liaison to both the Lazarevic and Osman Dynasty.
( Source: Osmanlı Sarayı’nda Bir Sırp Prenses: Mileva Olivera Lazarevic by Mustafa Çağhan Keskin )
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petrovafvre · 2 years
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huricihan and bayezid [ 5/? ]
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New wretched thought of the day:
It's so tragic seeing Mahidevran reject Bayezid's support after Mustafa's death only to turn around years later and be smug about accepting charity from Selim - the man that actually wanted Mustafa dead.
She thinks she's pissing off Mihrimah and shaming Suleman, but it's a small consolation for the audience knowing she actually providing a way for Selim to assuage his guilty conscience.
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awkward-sultana · 8 months
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"No, mother, this is too much. No one can accuse you of such ugly things."
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magnificentlyreused · 2 months
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This teal blue shirt was in high usage during the run of Magnificent Century and its spin-off Magnificent Century: Kösem.
It first appeared in the ninth episode of the first season on Şehzade Mehmed. The shirt was used three times in the second season. First on Şehzade Bayezid in the third episode, then on Şehzade Selim in the ninth episode and lastly it lay among the clothes of the deceased Sultanzade Mehmed in the twelth episode. The shirt was then seen again on Şehzade Cihangir in the fourth episode of the third season. It was also worn by Mihrimah Sultan's son Sultanzade Osman in the thirty-fourth episode of the fourth season.
Magnificent Century: Kösem used the shirt three times in its first season, first on Şehzade Mehmed in the thirteenth episode, then on Şehzade Ibrahim (later Sultan Ibrahim) in the twenty-first episode and lastly on Sultan Osman II's son Şehzade Mustafa.
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chaos-of-the-abyss · 1 month
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magnificent century ep 139: "and after unjustly and underhandedly killing his noble and valiant brother bayezid, the unworthy selim ascended the throne of the ottoman empire"
magnificent century kösem ep 1: "in his childhood ahmed was deeply traumatized as he witnessed his father mehmed carry out the four-hundred-year-long precedent of legal fratricide and execute all nineteen of his brothers upon his ascension to the throne of the ottoman empire"
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davidcescleo · 1 year
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Yes, it's time to talk about all the people Sultan Murad lost.
⏭️ Will do All the people Sultan Suleyman lost next.
And I will not mention his brother's death because those were not his fault. (Osman's and Mehmet's)
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👦🏻Musa Çelebi, his best friend (and lover) ➡️He died in a rebellion and Murad could do nothing. Their story is heartbreaking. ❌Only death in this list is that definitely not Murad's fault but also probably the death Murad blames himself the most.
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👸🏻Gevheran Sultan, his sister ➡️Murat first killed her husband and then forced her to marry his mother's secret lover. She committed suicide at her wedding. ✅Murat's fault, also can be Atike's fault, and also can be Silahtar's fault depending on where you look.
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👸🏻 Ayşe Sultan, his wife number 1 ➡️ She killed herself after finding out Murad had ordered her death. Murad decided to kill her because she was the reason Farya lost her baby and the giant fire in the capitol. ✅Definitely Murad's fault. Maybe Farya can share a little of the blame since she informed Ayşe of her pending demise but definitely 95 percent Murad's fault.
👸🏻🤴🏼Murad's son and daughter ➡️Ayşe poisoned them. ✅Still Murad's fault. Ayşe was desperate and I think she thought Murad would harm their son in the future and since she wasn't going to be able to protect them, she chose to take her children with her. This wasn't an act of selfishness or desire to get even with Murad. She just wanted to protect them from Murad's cruel side.
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🤴🏻Şehzade Beyazıd, his brother ➡️He got executed on Murad's orders in the palace, in his home. ✅❌Again partly Murad's fault, partly Gulbahar Sultan's fault. Murad shouldn't have made him kill his lover, shouldn't have made him feel like he could kill him any second. Gulbahar on the other hand made everything possible for her son to die. If she had just waited, Beyazıd would have ascended to the throne regardless.
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👸🏻Farya, wife number 2 ➡️Kosem killed her before this though Murad had tried to kill her but couldn't, after finding out she was pregnant. ❌✅Kosem's fault, but Murad had already tried to kill her... sooo I don't know?
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👦🏻Silahtar Mustafa, his best friend ➡️Kosem killed her. ❌Don't like him. Don't care. Wasn't Murad's fault.
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🤴🏻Şehzade Kasım, his brother ➡️Murad ordered his death after Kosem tried to dethrone him and give his empire Kasım ✅❌ Kosem's ambitions. Murad's unreasonable hatred towards his mother. Both are equally guilty.
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🤴🏻🤴🏻Şehzade Selim and Şehzade Suleyman, his sons ➡️Murad's sons. They died due to force contamination by the plague. ✅It's Murad's fault. For not killing Gulbahar, for killing Beyazıt, for failing to keep their mother Farya alive and for not listening to Kosem.
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👑 Sultan Murad, himself ➡️He died because he refused to listen to his mother, he was cruel and didn't listen to doctors and kept drinking. Also, all the deaths I mentioned above *might have* affected him and his health. ✅Definitly his fault
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redrosecut · 7 months
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Bayezid and his impulsiveness drive me nuts. Like how stupid is it to provoke Selim even at Cihangir's funeral? Just shut up and keep it to yourself. Why are you actively trying to make your brother your enemy now that there is only the two of you left? Yes, you may eventually have to kill each other but you also know your brother has an alcohol problem and your father is still healthy. Maybe just shut up, scheme in secret to sabotage him and hoping his addiction will eventually get the better of him so you don't have to shed blood would have been so much smarter. He really never learned patience.
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hurremmylove · 1 year
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Bayezid: Is letting someone win at chess sapiosexual bottoming?
Hurrem: Does anyone in this godforsaken group ever think before they speak?
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