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#the big damn loki (2021) sucks compendium
nikkoliferous · 1 year
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Sylvie, Queen of the Mary Sues; Worst of Her Name; Breaker of Canon*
The Shameless Erasure of Loki’s Trauma in Order to Prop Up the Show’s True Protagonist, Sylvie
Loki Deserves Better Than His Toxic, One-sided Romance With Sylvie
Sylki is Literally the Opposite of a Self-Love Story
The Hypocrisy of Framing Sylvie as a Hero and Loki as a Villain
Sylvie and the Problem With “Strong Female Characters”
Loki (2021)’s Cynical Use of Comic Book Easter Eggs to Shortcut Sylvie’s Character “Development”
Belittling vs. Bickering: Sylvie and Loki’s Problematic Dynamic
Every Single Issue With Sylki (It’s Not Just the Selfcest)
Why Loki (2021)’s Sylvie Is A Mary Sue
Even Ignoring the Selfcest, Sylki Is Still A Terrible Pairing
*shoutout to @iamnmbr3 for this catchy nickname lol
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nikkoliferous · 1 year
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Mobius M. Mobius Shut the Fuck Up Challenge
The TVA, Mobius and Banality of Evil
Mobius Is Loki’s Slavemaster, Not His Friend
Mobius Is A Terrible “Friend” to Loki (And So Is Sylvie)
How the Audience Was Primed to Love Mobius at Loki’s Expense
The Moral Bankruptcy of Framing Mobius As Loki’s “Friend”
Try to Imagine ANY Hero-Coded MCU Character Getting the TVA Treatment
Torture Is A Valid Form of Therapy, Yes?
The Real-Life Effects of Framing Mobius’s Torture of Loki as “Therapy”
Loki (2021) Has Some Fans Literally Defending Slavery and Torture
“Love Bombing” With Mobius
Therapy vs. Torture
Loki’s “Therapy Sessions” With Mobius Were Literally Torture
Mobius Is Not and Never Was a Good Person
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nikkoliferous · 1 year
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Directly Contrasting Movie!Loki vs. Series!Loki
Avengers vs Loki (2021) Promo Shots
Debunking the Lie That Loki Was A Lazy, Pampered Prince (Unlike Sylvie, Whose Life Was Sooo Super Hard!)
Some of the Jarring Differences Between Movie!Loki and Series!Loki
Addressing the Laughable Notion That Loki Has Never Been Out-of-Control Before Loki (2021)
Loki (2021)’s “Redemption” Arc Only Works If You Ignore His Prior Characterization
Loki Caring About Other People Is Nothing New
The Narrative’s Treatment of Avengers!Loki vs. Ragnarok/Series!Loki
Debunking Loki (2021)’s Whitewashing of Frigga’s B+ Parenting
Loki’s Character “Development” in Loki (2021) Fails To Take Into Account His… You Know, Character
Loki (2021)’s Failure to Distinguish Between Acting In-Control vs. Being In-Control
Debunking the Lie That Loki Had Only Ever Cared About Himself Until He Met Sylvie
Does Loki Actually “Love to Talk”?
TDW!Loki vs Series!Loki and Caring About Other People
Loki’s Entire “Redemption Arc” in the Series Is Based on a False Premise
The Worst Part of Loki (2021) Was Everything
Disney Did Worse Than Kill Loki Off—They Unmade Him
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nikkoliferous · 1 year
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Loki (2021) Creators + Fandom Wank
The Absurdity of Claiming An Entire Fandom “Headcanoned” Loki’s Prior Characterization
Fandom Policing and the Prohibiting of Critical Analysis
Fandom Hypocrisy and Actions vs. Framing
The Incoherency of Claiming Loki Is A Narcissist Who Needed To Learn Self-Love
“Can Loki Change?” Is the Wrong Question To Be Asking
Disney’s Fear of Moral Ambiguity Rendered Loki’s Character “Arc” Meaningless
Was Loki (2021) Really A Success?
Distinguishing Between Quality and Preference in Loki (2021)
Loki (2021) Didn’t Deliver on Anything It Promised
Evidence of False IMDB Reviews for Loki (2021)
Loki (2021)’s Costume Designer Thinks Attractive Clothing “Distracts” From the Character’s Personality. No, Really.
Marvel’s Paranoia About Spoilers Is Slowly Destroying Them
The “Loki Lectures” Were (Probably) A Lie
The Only Consistent Thing About Loki (2021) Is Everyone Shitting on Him, In-Universe and Out
Addressing the Tom Hiddleston-Shaped Elephant in the Room
Mike Waldron Interview Bullshit: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 |
Kate Herron Interview Bullshit: 1 | 2 | 3 |
Sophia di Martino Interview Bullshit: 1 |
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nikkoliferous · 1 year
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Loki (2021)’s Loki Is OOC (and Irrelevant to Boot)
Loki (2021) Has Loki Apologising To All the Wrong People
Loki Never Cared About Having A Throne
The Three Biggest Problems With Loki (2021) From a Storytelling POV
Odin Betrayed Loki, Not the Other Way Around
It’s Not Just About What Loki Is Doing; It’s About How He’s Doing It
Loki (2021)’s Failure to Address Loki’s History of Trauma Either Textually or Subtextually
Marvel’s Failure to Remember Acknowledge Their Own Lore
Loki May Be the Title Character, But He’s Certainly Not the Main Character
The Loki Series Is, Oddly, Not A Series About Loki
Series!Loki Couldn’t Manipulate His Way Out of a Paper Bag
Even Many Series Fans Are Trying to Figure Out What the Hell Is Wrong With Loki
Series!Loki Isn’t Even In-Character According to the Show’s Own Logic
The “Loki” Series Would Have Worked Fine Without Loki
Sylvie Is the True Protagonist of Loki (2021)
Series!Loki Isn’t Out of His Comfort Zone; He’s Out-of-Character
What Happened To Loki’s Rage?
There Is Only One MCU!Loki
Loki (2021)’s Mockery of Loki’s Verbosity is Both a Retcon and Bizarrely Meta
Show vs. Tell in Loki (2021)
Loki (2021)’s Failure to Say Anything Profound
On Loki and the Erasure of His Trauma
The Disturbing History of Loki Being Accused of Betrayal for the Crime of… Surviving
Fandom Mental Gymnastics to Justify Loki Being Blatantly OOC in “His” Show
Is Loki A Narcissist? Unsurprisingly, No.
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nikkoliferous · 1 year
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Racism, Ableism, Transphobia, Oh My!
The Many Times We Were Lied to About Canonizing Loki’s Genderfluidity
Visibility Does Not Equal Representation
More on the Problems With Loki (2021)’s Black “Representation”
Episode One’s Mongolia Scene Was Also Pretty Racist
Sexism, Fluidphobia and Transphobia in Episode Five
On Framing the Irredeemably Evil TVA as Good and/or Necessary
Toxic Messaging in Loki (2021): A Summary
Loki (2021) Is A Show Made By and For Bullies
The Horrifying Totalitarianism of the TVA
The Obvious Bad Guys Who Weren’t
How Marvel’s Glorification of Abuse Retraumatises Victims
The Hidden Harm in How Marvel Has Handled Loki’s “Adoption”
Loki (2021)’s Extremely Problematic Villainising of Black Characters
Forcing Loki to “Admit” His Inferiority is Not Character Growth
Loki’s Jewish-Coding Makes Loki (2021)’s Framing of the TVA as a Necessary Evil Especially Disturbing
Misandry, Toxic Masculinity and Queerphobia in Loki (2021)
Loki (2021)’s Transphobic Promotion of Autogynephilia
The Grotesque Framing of the TVA Intake (aka Stripping) Scene
It’s the Framing, Stupid
The Disturbing Hypocrisy of How Loki’s Crimes Against Other People Are Framed vs. Their Crimes Against Him
Loki (2021) Suffers Due to the Showrunners’ Inability to Decide Whether the TVA is Good or Evil
Villain Discourse: You Cannot Beat or Shame People Into Mental Wellness
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nikkoliferous · 1 year
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Misc Loki (2021) Reviews
The Loki (2021) Finale Was A Hot Mess
Cataloguing Numerous Problems With Loki (2021)
Loki (2021) Plot Hole List
Storytelling Problems in Loki (2021)
Loki Has Died Many Times, But His Own Series May Be His Most Brutal Character Assassination Yet
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nikkoliferous · 3 years
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In Defense of Loki (TV Series edition)
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Last updated: March 23rd, 2023
Marvel’s really going to make me do this again, aren’t they? *sigh*
Loki (2021) sucks. It sucks in every imaginable way that a thing can suck. It sucks as a Loki series. It sucks as a standalone television show. It sucks from a characterization standpoint. It sucks from a messaging standpoint. It sucks from a storytelling standpoint. It sucks from a technical standpoint. It sucks. And it sucks way worse than Thor: Ragnarok did.
Now, this post is not about telling fans of the series that the thing they love is terrible, nor that they’re wrong for finding enjoyment in it. To each their own, live and let live, etc etc. But much like with Thor: Ragnarok, people who disliked the TV series have taken a lot of abuse for daring to express their honest opinions online. What this post is about is tearing down the strawmen about why people disliked the series (no, it’s not about ship wars or Loki not aligning with our “headcanons”) and compiling the abundance of evidence against it into one easily-accessible and referenceable location—both for people who are genuinely curious why some of us couldn’t be less impressed and also for the sake of those who didn’t like it, that they might feel a little less crazy and/or alone.
With that being said, buckle in; I have a feeling we’re going to be here for a while.
Loki (2021)’s Loki Is OOC (and Irrelevant to Boot)
Directly Contrasting Movie!Loki vs. Series!Loki
Sylvie, Queen of the Mary Sues; Worst of Her Name; Breaker of Canon
Mobius M. Mobius Shut the Fuck Up Challenge
Racism, Ableism, Transphobia, Oh My!
Loki (2021) Creators + Fandom Wank
Misc Loki (2021) Reviews
(Once again, shoutout to everyone who has contributed to this masterpost, either by writing brilliant meta about the show or having such odious hot takes that it would be a criminal offense not to respond lmao)
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