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thechekhov · 8 months
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I may have fallen a bit too deep BUT.
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The Houses.
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katakaluptastrophy · 6 months
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The Nine Houses must be absolutely terrifying to fight.
And not just because their invasions start with a drop ship full of pimply 14 year olds inexplicably armed with zweihanders whose entire remit is to cause a mass casualty event for necromantic purposes...
We're mostly introduced to the schools of necromancy at the beginning of GTN, before we have broader context beyond "ooh, new magic system." But if you think about it in light of what we later learn about the Cohort:
Second House: they can literally drain your life force to power up their cavaliers. "It’s said they all die screaming"
Third House: that pile of corpses in no man's land? They're being used as a power up. Also, someone's just rearranged your face; your arse is on backwards.
Fourth House: that pile of corpses in no man's land? They're bombs now. And if you corner a Fourth House necro, they're a bomb too!
Fifth House: at best, they're the weird technicians for the Houses' horrifying blood and monolith based FTL system. At worst, it doesn't matter if you kill yourself to avoid capture or if you hold out under interrogation until you expire, they can still interrogate your ghost.
Sixth House: drop a cigarette or shed a hair on a clandestine operation? These guys now know your age, shoe size, and approximate location. They know what you had for breakfast. They know what you held in the last 12 hours.
Seventh House: that pile of corpses in no man's land? They're armed and marching on you now.
Eigth House: why is he glowing? WHY IS HE GLOWING?!
Ninth House: the guy next to you's bones just became an IED.
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nibblette · 5 months
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The fact that Jod has hopped in and out of the head military ships of the Nine Houses for like 9000yrs is a trip for me. So like if your grandpa survives his time in the Cohort he comes home and was like…. “I saw God eating peanuts in an admiralty meeting, once.” And that is like the family legend/brag for like hundreds of years.
Even worse (or better?) if your ancestor banged Jod. Does he let those people survive? Or does a Lyctor or high ranking officer find a way for them to conveniently die a “heroic death in battle”?
It’s got to be so weird for people of the Nine Houses who worship a god who hasn’t come back to their solar system for 9000yrs but your random cousin of a cousin of a friend’s uncle saw God and the Saint of Patience making out in a broom closet during his time on the Erebus.
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denimshortsdean · 8 months
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I wanna be gideon so bad but the problem is there are no short lesbian necromancers near me who want to be picked up and carried like a sack of potatoes
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ninthhousegremlin · 4 months
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Shitposting absurd tlt theories/headcanons until I get Alecto News: day 9(I completely am not posting every day, but to hell with it):
So Palamedes says he thinks that "those little outfits nurses wear" are sexy. For the most part, I think we all assumed he meant those sexy nurse costumes you get at Spirit Halloween. Which implies one of two things: A) the sixth has some of them preserved in their archives, which is not unlikely, but also what if 2) the nurses actually wear those in the nine houses. I feel like this would happen on the third, at least. We also don't know much about fashion or beauty standards in the houses outside of what we've seen on Canaan, because that was the best representation we got, and everyone there was outside the average. We had the ninth, who are very separated from everyone, as our best point of reference at the end of the day. We saw the grandiose fashion of the third from Corona and Ianthe, and got descriptions of the Sixth wearing gray cloaks and the Eighth wearing all white, but past that, we don't know much.
So I guess what I'm trying to say is, what if spirit halloween-type crappy costumes have become their own cultural phenomenon?
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liesmyth · 4 months
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Honestly considering John's bitterness about having to forgo scientific study of necromancy originally it makes incredible amounts of sense on how the whole unhealthily obsessed academic attitude seems to be idealized for necromancers and at least an academic *focus* seems to be appreciated.
Like. The fandom mostly talks about John's Imperialism and Catholic Aesthetic in contrast to his human life, which, fair, it's a bit more relevant, but sometimes i just pause and realize: oh. John Gaius and his duplicitous sluts got to influence and direct the development of a whole society. Forgot about that.
Like. I know if he had the time to actually study before doing anything he wouldn't have gotten his necropowers in the first place, but sometimes i like to think about what john could've done if he had... Idk, not a low stress environment because research is stressful, but a chill decade or so to just explore that
OK but actually, I'm not that sure that's the case for post-Res John. He seems much more invested in maintaining the Houses within a state of cultural stagnation than he is in research.
I think the Canaan House era was all about scientific study, like John said in HtN, they "discovered the scientific principles." But not all of those were shared with the population of the Houses! It's been ten thousand years, and nobody in the House could conceive of something like Teacher, who Anastasia made within the first 200 years post Resurrection, with the "normal" amount of necromantic aptitude of a mortal, not of a Lyctor.
There's the constant implication that there has been very little innovation in ten thousand years of history. When Abigail says "there is a lot we don't understand about the River" she also calls the current state of research on the Fifth "stifled, stultified, complacent." She talks about it like it's a somewhat contemporary issue, but I believe it's gone on for longer than that. The Sixth have been mapping consanguinity lines for generations, but I don't think their obsession with genetic diversification has brought anything of note. It's like going to university to study maths, but the curriculum stops at the very beginning of elementary calculus and nobody has gone further in millenia.
We know that the Lyctors have delved into some areas of necromancy, like Augustine and the River, but that research hasn't been shared with the Houses even on a theoretical level. We know there's a constant feeling that the Houses are throwing around accusations that some avenues of necromancy are "heretical", even if the one guy who could clear up once and for all what's heresy hasn't bothered speaking up.
I agree with your last half - I think that in a much different story where a random guy gets chosen by the soul of the earth to receive divine powers and maybe the situation is less stressful, it could have been a net good for humanity instead of the end of the world. But in terms of John encouraging a scientific approach to necromancy post-Resurrection, I think he (and the Lyctors, maybe) have actually done the opposite. I'm not sure how intentional it is vs. how much it's a metaphor but the Houses are the opposite of a thriving society, culturally. It's all so stifled and stale, a civilisation in suspended animation.
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gideonnah · 1 month
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I love being an art student beacuse sometimes it's totally appropriate to make fanart for a class assignment. For my final for one of my drawing classes I'm making a small book (12 pages) about the 9 houses.
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commanderbabygirl · 2 months
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i really want to explore the existence of disability in the nine houses more
long post so more under the cut
like we have the existence of the seventh house and everything that entails, we have cytherea being left for a myriad when (from my point of view) john could have cured her especially if he did it prelyctorhood
and then we also have the exchange between ianthe and palamades in the unwanted guest. he’s shocked at naberius being a cradle cav and asks what if he had a physical disadvantage, and ianthe responds that they would have fixed him.
these feel like two very different schools of thought regarding disability (excluding cytherea cus of the whole death power forever thing, pretty sure that wouldn’t work unless you’ve been preserved at the point of almost death and have figured out how to work with it)
the third house specializes in flesh magic which could account for the we’d have fixed him thing, but still mental disabilities? intelectual disabilities? and also like how eugenicsy are they getting
pretty sure the seventh specializes in like preservation of the corpse maybe spirit magic? im honestly not sure, but does that play a part in it?
like there is so much more to explore and think about like what about the fourth who are basically canon fodder for a perpetual war, the ninth who have been in a state of decline for who knows how long, harrow’s entire situation, or the fact that necromancers and even non adepts seem to be functioning at a lower baseline then you’d expect on earth.
like i have so many questions and there’s so much to explore
you can see more about the health of the nine houses in this post
https://www.tumblr.com/katakaluptastrophy/728543330500296704/it-occurs-to-me-that-aside-from-doing-a-number-on?source=share
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therealgentleg · 7 days
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Isn't it interesting that all Houses represent the Emperor or parts of the Emperor...
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Except the Ninth (maybe because it wasn't meant to exist)...
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And... the Eighth?
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Tournament 2 : Characters with Demigods' names
Final
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Demigods they share a name with :
- Perseus, son of the Greek god Zeus and a mortal, the princess Danae
- Pyrrha, daughter of the Titan Epimetheus and Pandora, the first human woman, in Greek mythology
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racefortheironthrone · 10 months
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how do you think athiests would fare in tlt? can there be athiests? also do you think there's people coming up with conspiracies like "the resurrection is a myth made up by necromancers" and stuff?
Well, atheism would be a very high-risk occupation in the NIne Houses - it's a theocratic empire with a state religion, so expressing atheistic views openly would probably not only be considered as blasphemous by the religious authorities of the Eighth House but probably would also be considered treason as well. Even rather high-ranking skeptical figures like Abigail Pent simply take the position that the God-Emperor has never claimed to be omnipotent (or omniscient).
Nevertheless, Gideon knows what atheism is an a concept, so it's not the case that there is such a degree of information control that the concept is completely alien to the people of the Nine Houses. Given that comics and porn mags produced as Imperial propaganda make up the bulk of her cultural knowledge base, I'm going to guess that the nameless "insurgents" who play the stock bad guys in those books are described as atheists, to inculcate House people against both atheism and insurgents.
Which suggests that atheism probably does exist among exo-humanity. Certainly, BOE deny John Gaius' divinity - and while they do have religious references in their names, we don't really see signs of religious worship other than reverence for the memory of Commander Wake, and it would be a bit odd if ten thousand years has sundered the chain of cultural meanings in virtually every area except for religion.
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thechekhov · 4 months
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Fuck it, The Locked Tomb House icons. Because... why not?
Use em if you want, credit appreciated.
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derseprinceoftbd · 2 months
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Odds of Cavalier or Necro appearing in Alecto, IMO, descending:
Ninth
(Confirmed)
Third
(Duh)
Second
(Judith isn't just gonna vanish)
Eighth
(Underexplored comparatively, necromancy relates the most to Hell, potential to conflict with Harrow)
Fifth
(Story relevance, but not narrative relevance, if that makes sense)
Sixth
(I feel like the narrative raised a yet-unanswered question of whether Paul was good; I can't *rule out* defusing.)
Fourth
(Very loveable, very low narrative potential)
Seventh
(Very low narrative potential)
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katakaluptastrophy · 6 months
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An often overlooked detail in Nona the Ninth is that we actually get some population numbers for parts of the Nine Houses:
"Three million people squatting on a thanergy planetoid millions of kilometres away from us. Nine million people in this city alone…Nine million, Pyrrha, that’s equivalent to the whole of the Seventh and the Eighth put together."
The three million refers to the Sixth House installation, parked on a flipped planetoid while the Oversight Body are off negotiating having a magical mystery tour of the New Rho undercity. And since the Seventh is a whole (terraformed?) planet and the Eighth is quite likely to be the "shell" being built at Uranus pre-res, we have to assume the Seventh has a bigger share of that nine million. Jod really wasn't kidding about that whole "never more than millions" thing.
It's hard to guess what the situation might be for the other Houses. The Second is quite possibly also a whole terraformed planet, but if we assume population is spread across moons and installations, who knows how big the Third or Fifth might be? You can probably fit a lot of people onto 69 moons (nice).
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Botanic Tournament : Main Bracket !
Round 2 Poll W
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Ianthe comes from the Greek for "violet flower" (could be violets or other purple flowers)
Solanaceae : family of nightshades : includes vines, potatoes, tomatoes, tobacco, petunia, belladonna, etc.
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(Violets)
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bees-knees-and-toes · 8 months
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I have just discovered emoji kitchen, which can only mean one thing: new skulls for each house resurrected by the Kindly Prince.
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I house
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II house
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III house (listen, it just feels right, the twins would absolutely slay pride parades every year)
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IV house (after all their just teens)
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V house
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VI house (this would be Pal's profile picture)
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VII house
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VIII house (this is what I imagine happens to the cavalier's soul when necromancer siphons them. also, messy interpersonal relationships)
And, finally:
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The saddest girl in the world and her "you were always so fucking sad" necromancer, The IX house
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