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fandom-susceptible · 7 months
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Supernatural Rewatch Liveblog S1E5 Bloody Mary
These guys really just park and sleep anywhere huh.
I'm so fond of Dean. You kind of expect him to be the "bury your emotions" manly man type at first but even this early, he keeps checking on Sam's mental and emotional state. The caretaking is so strong with this boy. man. god he starts the series at 26, I keep forgetting because Jensen's so baby-faced compared to later.
(brief side note, Jensen Ackles played Dean Winchester for so damn long he rolled out of bed forgetting he wasn't the character and has lines on his face from Dean's expressions instead of his own. You really cannot blame him for wanting out at the end of the series, even if it meant a shitty ending.)
Sam was actually pretty good with Lily (the little girl) when they talked at her dad's wake, and I'm just really soft because he was doing the same thing with her that Dean did with the kid from episode 3.
You know it really hits sometimes that these men are seriously psychopaths, standing around listening to people talk about these horrific deaths and murders and just not even twitching about it.
Why did they tear off the paper on the back of the painting? It. There's pegs on those. they could just remove it like normal humans and leave less of a trace.
Why the hell is Sam like "same handprint" about the bloody handprint? It's. A smeared bloody handprint? of course it looks the fucking same.
I love the effects of them driving with the fake background. The lighting isn't even right. Does it stay this bad?? I don't remember it being this bad.
It hurts me that Dean was so willing to be just like do it, blame me, hate me, make it my fault, just don't blame yourself about the Jessica shit.
Why didn't they just steal the mirror? So there wouldn't be other ones for Mary to hide in? And they wouldn't be hanging around for the security to come find?
Dean getting that action hero punch to the mirror got me though, fuck I love him.
Can we also talk about Sam being all maudlin, oh I have to do this, I'm the one with a secret where someone died, it's all about Jessica. And Dean too, Dean believed this! You idiots. You literally live in secrets where so many people died. Dean cannot have told every single story of every single hunt where someone died while Sam was away. Literally either of you could have done this, it is not a surprise she could target both of you.
They smashed so much glass for this episode.
"This gotta be like what, 600 years bad luck?" about 15 and then you die.
They should have been pulled over so much for sheer bad driving.
"There's some things I need to keep to myself." Sam says, thus condemning them to like three more seasons of insanity with him and his fucking curse when they could have started dealing with it right now.
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frostworkxfiction · 6 months
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Ugh I forgot how much I hate Alistair's voice. Watching "Death Takes A Holiday" and literally cringing at the sound of his voice. I HATE it, I always have. It sounds like nails on a fucking chalkboard.
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disabled-dean · 2 months
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Yeah but has anyone checked on the CW sniper? Are they okay?
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seasononesam · 9 months
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leverage-ot3 · 2 months
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okay I’ve seen a lot of posts about sterling just being crowley and. guys. the implications just hear me out 😭😭😭
bending lore slightly here BUT let’s say crowley’s body was once inhabited by a human and crowley is possessing the body (maybe he kills the initial inhabitant bc he doesn’t care)
but he still has the guy’s memories. he doesn’t bother keeping up appearances with his ‘ex wife’ because he is too busy building up his hell empire. BUT for some reason he can’t quite identify, he still feels something towards his ‘daughter’. he lets the divorce happen and doesn’t feel the need (or desire) to fight for custody, but he can never quite forget her, to cast her out of his mind for good
some hijinks ensue with the leverage team. it’s mostly because even a grind culture demon wants some off time every once in a while, and for him the insurance investigator stuff is more of a hobby. interacting with the leverage crew is very low stakes for him, and honestly, quite amusing. they aren’t on his level power-wise, but that ford character gives him the mental exercise he hasn’t experienced in, well, he can’t even remember
he can feel their frustration and anger when they learn he has become employed by interpol and feeds off it. it’s great, and relaxing in a way he is never able to achieve while conducting hell-related business
one year he gets wind that olivia is in a really bad situation associated with his ‘ex wife’s’ new husband. he’s selling vital hardware to terrorists, and while that might actually be the kind of chaos he would normally support or be entertained by as the king of hell, something feels wrong about letting olivia stay anywhere near that man
he calls upon the body’s adversaries. he wouldn’t admit it, even under duress, BUT he feels slightly fond of them. nate for the three dimensional chess they play, sophie for her ability to charm and disguise, parker for her chaos and slightly unsettling nature (it’s the autism swag and being bad with human interaction but he doesn’t know that lol), hardison for his unapologetic intelligence and eliot for his hardened violent past and take-no-shit persona (he’s fun to tease)
they perform exactly as he expected, right into his carefully crafted plan. and then olivia is under his care and things get more complicated. he keeps her FAR, FAR away from anything related to the supernatural (heh). no one can find out about her, ESPECIALLY not those imbecile hunter brothers (if for nothing else than the embarrassment in revealing he has a weak spot)
not sure how to work it into this post but I also want to add that somewhere along the way he develops feelings for nate and sophie. the frame up job is near and dear to my heart and you can’t convince me that isn’t fighting as flirting behavior. his interpol persona is more of a side hustle so to speak, but he finds it fun (relaxing, even) to fill that role. there aren’t any obligations of other demons, bothersome hunters, or anything like that. nate and sophie are low stakes, except, they aren’t, really. they make him feel things he can’t ever really remember feeling. his heart beats fast when sophie sat in his lap and cradled his face, his hands sweat when nate gives him that certain smug look. he’s exasperated by the way they can run circles around him like no one else has ever before. they annoy him and get under his skin in a way no one else can and it’s infuriating. but also not, at the same time. maybe he likes it
and then the long goodbye job happens
hear me out and suspend your belief here for a second, because I can’t remember if crowley supernaturally knows when ppl die/are dead or not.
so nate is in interpol custody and the interviewer is obviously out of her depth. (most people are, when it comes to nathan ford.) he walks in and pours the man a drink, but he’s fuming. somewhere along the way he came to care about the team. hell and suffering is literally in his (official) job description, but he can admit (only to himself) that he admires what they do. it’s not for him, not anything close to where his passions and interests lie, but he respects their drive and purpose. he is also aware enough to acknowledge that they are a family, a group of misfits that never belonged quite anywhere except to each other.
and nate fucking blew it up, ruined it, because his vice is being so obsessed with the end game that he is apparently willing to let his team, his family, the people that anchor him to reality, die because the ends supposedly justify the means.
not this time. not to sterling crowley
he is enraged. he can admit within the confines of his mind that he cares for nate, for sophie, even for the other three (though nate and sophie have somehow made it a hierarchy where they are more important to him. which he will dissect later in private. maybe.)
nate let them die, he let sophie die, and for what? the black book? hell below, crowley would have made things easier somehow, if he knew that this was where nate’s sights had lied. he would have prevented this somehow. he wants to have prevented this. he doesn’t want any of them dead and is too afraid to check and verify because that would make it real. the idea of sophie (or any of them) somehow making it to hell instead of heaven would probably break something in him he might not be able to reapir fully.
he yells at nate- he’s angry. hellfire burning in his heart because everything is ruined. the deaths aside (however hard it is to set them aside in his mind), nate will not recover from this, not ever. this will be the start of the end, he is sure. a miserable, guilt-ridden existence where he drinks himself to death and nothing will save him. it plays out in crowley’s mind in a thousand different ways that are beyond painful to conceptualize, even in theory.
the story starts to unravel and there is a game afoot. a solemn, miserable, infuriating game because the con is still in session because parker is alive and in the building- which sets another fire alight in his chest. ‘parker even know you got hardison killed?’ he rages for her grief when she finds out. he knows it will double when she finds out eliot has perished, too, because he isn’t fucking blind.
but nate is a brilliant man, lest he forget too quickly. they are all alive, and somehow still the entire crew slips through his fingers. he’s not even angry (he never would have been- he doesn’t actually try too hard to catch them. it’s about the game, not the consequences). he lets them keep the black book because he’s fucking exhausted and honestly, they more than earned it.
‘now we’re even. tell sophie to drive carefully’. they will never be even, not really. crowley would never admit or agree that being human is the superior state of being, but that have made him feel human in a way he doesn’t actually mind. they keep him on his toes and match him in a way unique to them, they remind him that there are other things than the realm of hell. not necessarily bigger than hell, but maybe just as important in a different sense.
watching the van drive away, something inside him settles. when he walked into the interrogation room that day he thought this was the beginning of the end. it’s not the end at all, not an end to anything. it’s a continuation of their story. maybe, he thinks, a beginning to a new era in it
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thepenultimateword · 8 months
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Spooktober Prompt #3
"What...are those?" the private detective said, leaning in closer to the angry prick marks in the victim's throat. "Some sort of injection? Or minor stab wound?”
The officer crouched beside them, spreading the holes apart with gloved fingertips. With their other hand the shook out a cotton swab and evidence bag, throughly swabbing the circumference of the wounds. "Fang marks."
The detective blinked. "What? Like from an animal?"
"Textbook vampire, but always good to take a sample just in case."
"Wait, vampire? What-- Is this a prank? Because it’s not funny. This is a murder scene.”
The officer raised their brows. “Skeptic, huh? We don’t get many of those around here. Didn’t that client of yours explain anything?”
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angelinthefire · 1 year
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season 7 sucks but it really is so essential to my understanding of dean/cas. Like the shock of Cas' "betrayal" and then death, Dean being so hurt by it, and continuing to be hurt by it all season. And like, he never *really* processes it. He never accepts what he's feeling, he never understands why he's not able to get over it. And he's so willing to forgive Cas, like I really think he just wanted things to go back to how they were before, like that's what he wanted more than anything. But they can't. Cas takes on Sam's trauma, and then he can't go back to how he was before, and Dean's guilty and angry over it. Like he went through months of being told suck it up and do his job, and Cas is back, and that should fix things, but it doesn't, and Cas seems like he doesn't want to fix things. But ultimately Dean decides that doesn't matter and takes the first step towards reconciliation. And then Purgatory.
I would not find deancas so interesting if it wasn't for s7. It's like, s4-6ish Dean and Cas were totally brothers-in-arms. But then Dean was wounded, and the wound was never allowed to heal, so it got worse, and he has this ugly bleeding sore in his heart, and that's Cas' place, and when Cas is gone it's all messy and gorey, and when Cas is there the space is filled but it still hasn't healed. And that's how Dean loves him.
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azrael08 · 4 months
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Weird take but I have huge grudge towards the background actors in the diner scene in 15x08, not throughout the entire scene but just at the end when Michael smites Lilith, when it pans around to the rest of the diner none of them look afraid enough, they all just look mildly shocked (except that one girl on the table behind Micheal when he leans over the booth, that girl look traumatized and I appreciate it) and it just takes me out of his whole 'Archangel power thing that Jabel had going on.
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sticky-bros · 15 days
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Sometimes there's a "platonic explanation" for what's going on with Dean and Sam, I just really like to explore the horny ones. It's fun.
Here's an example. "Hell House." Sam walks out of the bathroom wearing only a towel, and Dean gapes at him for a second. See, the brothers are having a prank war, and Dean has just put chilli powder in Sam's underwear. Dean's making that expression because he was nearly caught in the act. So that's the in-universe normal brothers explanation for what's going on here. Now, out of universe, Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki are unrelated straight actors who are recording the first season of a show together. They not actually brothers who grew up side-by-side for at least eighteen years. And guys sometimes get embarrassed about seeing other men in states of undress. That's my interpretation of Jensen's reaction anyway. This contributes to Dean's reaction not really reading like a typically brotherly one to me. While Dean and Sam are not as unfamiliar with each other as their actors, "Hell House" takes place in season one, so Dean and Sam are adjusting to having a relationship with each other again after years of estrangement. IIRC, this is the first time Sam is undressed around Dean on-screen. Even with the prank war background in mind, I can buy the idea that Dean is still getting used to being around his naked brother again. Anyway, during his shower, he jerks off thinking about water dripping down Sam's abs.
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destiel-wings · 1 year
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I've gathered some of my thoughts about The Winchesters season finale and here's why i think it gave me some peace
(yes, this does contain a destiel interpretation, too 💚💙)
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Did i want to see Cas in it? Yes.
Was i disappointed that he wasn't? Actually, no (more on that later).
But I loved it. I was so stunned as I saw it and I felt like somehow it healed some of the wounds from the spn finale... but i couldn't quite understand why.
Here's why.
We basically watched Supernatural. Jensen reopened the finale and went further with it. What we saw in The Winchesters felt like a continuation of 15x20, even if it technically happened in between the last two scenes of the finale. But we got Bobby, we got Jack. They all actually talked, in a way that felt alive and real. Jack broke his rule of no interfering, showing that he still cared for Dean (just like he had broken his own rule off screen by saving Cas from the Empty). The Winchesters wasn't a prequel, but a sequel.
Dean got his own story, got to make something for himself (instead of just waiting for Sam on a bridge), and it's something that he wanted to do. He went back to look for hope and love, for a version of his parents where they could have a real chance.
We learn love (or we don't) and how to be in a happy relationship as kids by watching our parents, and Dean was doomed that way. He never had that example, to learn how to build a relationship and let himself be loved. He never learned that. So when he gets to heaven and he has the chance, before getting on that bridge, before meeting up with his family, with Sam... and yes, with Cas (even if we haven't seen him yet), he just needs a freaking minute. He needs a little time to himself. To reconnect. To understand. To reflect on love and what it means to love and be loved.
So he does what any fond child would do... he looks up at his parents. Only his parents that are right there in heaven didn't exactly have a happy ending (or even a happy middle), so he explores further, searching for a chance, a hope, a version of his own legacy where love was possible. Because if his parents can make it... so can he.
And we see all that through his own lenses (the weird use of the camera lenses with all those flares and glow resembles the aura of Dean's drive in heaven, thinking about it in retrospect).
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screencaps of the glowy amber look and those camera flares, there's probably better examples but these are some of the best ones i could find
Dean's mission might have been the Akrida, but the reason he went looking, the real quest he was after, was hope. Hope for a happy ending. Hope for love, where said love was doomed from the start.
And it's not surprising that there were destiel parallels everywhere, because that was Dean's POV, and he's processing his own feelings. Which is something he needs to do before he sees Cas again.
And personally, I think Dean loves Cas back and he knew that before dying, but still, that doesn't mean that he's not afraid of messing it up. That he knows how to approach him, or face Cas, after all that's happened.
He may not even be doing all of this thinking consciously, but the Castiel subtext we've seen in The Winchesters, from a narrative POV, is Dean's.
We're seeing the parallels because he's seeing them, making them, it's his way of processing. Of seeing what he and Cas had, and what they could have. Looking for hope.
And, as he himself said before leaving again... i think he found it.
So i don't know how things are going to go on from here. I can't imagine how we could have Dean in a season two. I've been saying all along that The Winchesters might open the story for a SPN revival/s16, and i think it is perfectly possible that this might happen here.
The Winchesters might not have Dean anymore, becoming its own show (but still having lots of references and guest stars from Supernatural) and *as Jensen loves to say* when we get the revival, there will be the space to address Castiel's confession and give his character the importance that it needs.
It wouldn't have made sense to see Cas here in a little cameo, it wouldn't have been enough. But what we saw here, was the confirmation of Jensen reopening the finale, and his willingness to bring Dean back (as he's always stated), for whatever more he's allowed to do.
I love the way they handled it, we still got peace and hope (even if there were to be no s2), and i feel like we're all more confident that the bridge scene is not an ending, but a beginning of something more. Dean has said he's gonna go look for his family. That's not just Sam.
Of course he's gonna see Cas too. But i don't think any of us would've been satisfied to see him pop up randomly for a couple of minutes in TW, with little to no mention of what happened between them.
Also, i want to point out that this was supposed to be the midseason finale but they had to adapt it when they found out they didn't get a full season, we could've had much more (like more narrating voices as Jensen had teased) or even seeing more of Dean, instead of just seeing him in the pilot and the season finale. They even asked Misha to be there (and he refused for scheduling conflicts since he was busy filming Gotham Knights *but said he's absolutely willing to appear later*).
So i think there's still so much story to tell here and i am absolutely hopeful and trust that we will love it.
I think they did an amazing job in 13 episodes, and I can't wait to see what's next 💖
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fandom-susceptible · 7 months
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Supernatural Rewatch Commentary: S1 E4 (the first demon episode)
I fucking love this show. The pacing in this season sucks, I also hate it, I'm so ready to get back to seasons 4+ where they know about the demon and angel stuff again, but there's a New Show charm to Season 1 too.
Can we talk about how Dean sleeps cuddling a pillow?
That guy saying John was real proud of Sam and wouldn't stop talking about him fucking hurts when you know the rest of the story, huh? Especially with Dean's face in the back.
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Dean really just printed out fake Homeland Security IDs in a public shop and carried them out in his hand and nobody questioned this huh
fucking Jensen's voice in this season, I can hear the Texas in it lmao
It kills me that they manage to keep the same license plate for the whole damn series. How were they not pulled over constantly? Were they not on just So Many Blacklists?
Why is Sam so bitchy? "What is that?" he asks, and Dean says "it's an EMF meter" and then he demands why it looks like a busted up Walkman. Which like ok fine at this point brotherly bullshit, whatever. And then Dean says "because that's what I made it out of, it's homemade!" all proud of himself and Sam fucking goes "Yeah, I can see that" as if he didn't. literally just ask about it. Like. You're backtracking on your own? bullshit? that's just annoying.
Escaping from the facility: Were there not security cameras?? Why wouldn't there be, in a high-security facility like that in 2005? the US has been using them in a business capacity since 1947. Really became common in the 70s but still should have had them here.
"Demons, this isn't our normal gig" LMFAO
Dean's a horrid driver, he keeps swerving over the centerline.
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I feel this face. so hard. Oh my gods. Mood Dean. I also hate planes. Something about being suspended so far in the air by a manmade machine is scary by itself, but then the pressure changes? when you go to land? Excruciating. "why do you think I drive everywhere, Sam!" MOOD. also a mood with insisting on going with though, I would also do that for my little brother even if he is being a dick.
Introducing "Christo" as an easy identifier for a demon only for it to never be a factor in the demon heavy seasons was a hell of a move.
I have mixed feelings about how Sam handled Dean's panic attack there. Because ok, it was effective to snap at him like that. They needed something effective and fast, and it did the trick. It was a dick move, which wouldn't have worked on just anyone. It worked on Dean because we see John use similar/the same tactics, he's been conditioned to it. I don't think Sam's the cause of Dean's trauma there, but I do think he's taking advantage of it, and I think he's aware of what he's doing in a way that Dean might not be, with how deep he still is in John's conditioning. Just. icky vibes all around.
"Hurry up Sam, I don't know how much longer I can hold him" Dean says in season 1 of a demon they're just hand wrestling with. Contrast with Season 5 Dean who tells God he's a bitch to his face.
wait I just realized, "over 100 people on this flight" and then you only see like, 30, when the camera shot goes from the cockpit to the back.
How are these men not constantly overheated in their three layers of plaid and leather jackets in the sun?
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bobwess · 5 months
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Edit: The video has been posted
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emblazons · 2 years
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“The duffers are just two straight white guys who want the hero to get the girl, with a slap dash of role reversal because she’s the one with powers”
Counter: The Duffers are two nerdy white guys who have never once been confirmed as straight (one simply happens to be married to a woman) who had a chance taken on them by a big studio who now—by some social deference to nostalgia with thrilling elements—show run one of the most popular shows in the world.
(forewarning for some pettiness & some sarcasm lmao)
They have literally said they are film nerds surprised by their audience because they expected it to appeal only to people like them: fellow nerds and film kids (who went to one of the most well-respected film schools in California, and maybe the states) whose OG pitch was inspired by Denis Villeneuve (director of Prisoners, Arrival, Blade Runner 2049, & Dune to name a few), True Detective (Cary Fukunaga), and the subversive horrors & fantasies of their childhood—and who have shown season over season they are entirely unafraid to vilify homophobia, subvert heteronormativity, and tell queer stories with deference to the emotions of the queer person.
They have also again and again shown that they do not necessarily defer to or even agree with the things their actors say implicitly (making faces when they say things they don’t necessarily agree with) and explicitly (saying “we’re not game of thrones’ when Millie + Noah said they should start killing people off). They have said more than once that they regret leaning into public opinion or fan desires over the story they want to tell, and that they will not be doing so for their final seasons (despite knowing it will upset some of their fans).
Now….with all of this in mind—you want to bet that these two men are planning on “subverting the trope” by doing…the same shit every show you’ve ever seen do to their queer characters? To undermine an entire season of romantic tension they placed between two of the male leads in an ensemble cast, INCLUDING confirming that one of them is in fact gay and in love with the other one, despite knowing how important good storytelling is to them based on their words and inspirations? To internalize the words of one of their actors at a fan con (who merely said he “doesn’t think” something, and then said “we’ll see”) as law over 6.5 years of evidence proving they are literally just going to do what they want, actors and audience be damned?
Lmao. Just…lmao.
I don’t worship the duffers by any stretch of the imagination (and in fact have a fair amount of critique for how certain things were handled) but…even I know believing their idea of a good story is 1) gonna do the same shit everyone else has before them to queer characters they’ve already shown more respect to than not and 2) going to be dictated by the whims of people upset at them for simultaneously being too heteronormative and not heteronormative enough is…laughable, to say the least.
Please realize that actors and fans are not the central drivers of story in this show (unlike so many others) and rest from the constant emotional rollercoaster of believing everyone but the people who run the story. I promise you will know a lot more peace, in life and on the internet lmaooooo
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peachcitt · 2 years
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actually if goncharov were real it would never live up to the standards the insane tumblrinas have built it up to be. there is a triangle of homoeroticism, political commentary, and inevitably tragic in which any live, real adaptation would only conceivably be able to achieve two of to their fullest extent. added on to the fact that this is a film that supposedly is filmed and takes place in the seventies makes the possibility of it truly containing all aspects of what we have made it out to be even more far fetched. however, tumblr has been able to spin gold on far more real and disappointing media than goncharov through its analyses of media such as supernatural, sherlock, and a secret third piece of media that the subsequent creation and analyses of the ‘greatest mafia movie of all time’ goncharov is simply a natural step that tumblr as an ecosystem is willing to take. in this essay i will,
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disabled-dean · 2 months
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Yeah but has anyone checked on the CW sniper? Are they okay?
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vivika-ka · 25 days
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Will Queer Subtext Survive in Contemporary Media?
This video covers how broad issues with entertainment media, particularly Hollywood and Western television, are affecting directors and writers in their attempts to tackle queer representation—especially how they employ queer subtext.
We are witnessing the disappearance of subtext (the implicit) and, progressively, the disappearance of even explicit metaphors.
Issues such as the unforgiving pace of streaming platforms, Hollywood’s heteronormative standards, a decline in media comprehension, and uninspired writers are now blatantly palpable to the audience as we witness the demise of the Western film and television industry.
The video is not a dissertation! Given that this is a fairly new development in entertainment media, the video invites a discussion. Please let me know what you think! (And please be mindful if you engage with others.)
I apologize for the grammar slips; I’ve spoken primarily Portuguese lately 💛
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