#toro raymond

[bullssai]

#theyre a little mcu-ified cuz thats how my partner and i rp <3 #i might make a full comic one later #marvel invaders #the invaders #bucky barnes #steve rogers #namor #toro raymond #jim hammond #namor of talokan #theyre The gang #also i gave toro a later suit. for fun #my stuff

[wanderingmind867]

You know, Marvel had less of the teen sidekick trope than DC. I think. Bucky Barnes, the original Human Torch's sidekick Toro and Rick Jones. I think that's it for teen sidekicks. I mean, we had some teen heroes (spiderman and the o5 X-Men). But only three teen sidekicks.

But then we look at DC and we have enough teen sidekicks for me to think we need to call child protective services on all these child soldiers. Just going by wikipedia, we've got Robin, Aqualad, Kid Flash, Speedy, Snapper Carr, Green Lantern's rascist Inuit/"Eskimo" friend Pieface, etc. Seriously. Do I have to call social services to report 15 child soldiers in the greater united states!? This is bordering on the surreal. At least Marvel didn't do the child soldier thing nearly as often! Maybe Stan Lee just understood it was a bit weird. I don't know. But I'm glad Marvel had less child sidekicks.

#Is it me? #or is this actually weird #just now many adolescents were fighting gangsters!? #it borders on the surreal #but I still like marvel's few teen sidekicks #bucky barnes #toro raymond #rick jones #marvel #marvel comics #marvel universe #dc #dc comics #dc universe #dcu #dc critical #in a way #anti batman #anti bruce wayne #comic books #comics #superheroes #and I'll tag some of dc's teen sidekicks #let's see #robin #aqualad #kid flash #speedy #etc.

[flashfuture]

Reading Invaders comics is understanding that sometimes a family is an android who can set himself on fire, a child he found who can also light himself on fire, an Atlantean prince, a normal fourteen year old, a vampire with superspeed, and a 20 year old filled with government funded chemicals. The 20 year old filled with chemicals is also the one in charge

#marvel comics #invaders #jim hammond #toro raymond #namor the sub mariner #bucky barnes #steve rogers #captain america

[magnetothemagnificent]

True love is when your future self tells you exactly what to do to save yourself but you realize that you'd be living in a future without your best friend so instead you decide to change the past by letting yourself die but making sure your best friend survives

#buckytoro #bucky barnes #toro raymond #the invaders #marvel comics #earth 616 #marvel #avengers/invaders

[someonewhocollectswildherbs]

Everytime the invaders come across master man it usually goes like this:

And then there's Namor:

And then it ends like this:

#namor #the invaders #namor the sub mariner #marvel comics #marvel invaders #bucky barnes #mcu namor #jim hammond #steve rogers #captain america #toro raymond #the original human torch #jimnor

[fyeahinvaders]

In Toro's defense Bucky dragged him into it

Art by Marvelite

#bucky barnes #toro raymond #marvel invaders #fanart

[shingummyy]

Jim/Namor 🔥🐟👍

#namor #namor the sub mariner #namor mckenzie #marvel #jim hammond #jim/namor #toro raymond #the invaders #616

[son-of-a-frostgiant]

might as well dumps them here too. a bunch of old wip/scrapped work/doodles of the fishman (and some torches too) ranging from 2017-2020

#namor #namor the sub mariner #jim hammond #toro raymond #marvel #my drawing #long post #jimor #namorjim #? i dont remember my tag #last time i read of them is invaders(2019) and haven't read anything since... what have they been up to how have they been after the divorce

[toro-raymond]

#namor #jim hammond #toro raymond #toro #invaders #namor the sub-mariner #bucky #bucky barnes #jacqueline falsworth #spitfire #roger aubrey #the might destroyer

[ravenirene]

Them<3

Toro blowing the teams cover cause he wanted to celebrate buckys 18th birthday

His last Christmas before becoming the winter soldier was spent with toro and his first Christmas after the winter soldier was spent at toros grave

This hug is adorable

#bucky barnes #winter soldier #toro raymond #human torch #captian america #ppl dont talk about him cause it doesnt helo their silly little ship like arnie does although toro is 10x more interesting than arnie

[bullssai]

Jim Hammond dump!!!!

Ft. Namor, Toro and Betty

#Jim with a normal body fat percentage my beloved #don’t tag Jim and toro as a ship pls that’s nasty #Jim Hammond #the original human torch #my art #namor the sub mariner #namor mckenzie #jimor #toro raymond #Betty dean #marvel invaders #the invaders

[namorthesubmariner]

Thoughts on Namor's characterization in Chip Zdarsky's Invaders?

It's a mixed bag, while I think Zdarsky had a good start unfortunately it really floundered in the end, but when you take into account that Zdarsky started this idea as a Namor solo project that Marvel rejected, so he had to add in the Invaders it makes more sense for why it felt so off as an Invaders title.

Namor being the "mad king" of the seas is nothing new, and while I appreciate the attempt at explaining away Namor's missing years, the Peterson family, the Xavier mind manipulation. It's an interesting concept, plus Namor got to have some queer coding with Randall, and the effects of his PTSD was sorta explored.

Where the book falls apart for me is towards the end, specifically issue 11, in that issue Namor is turned human and is suddenly helpless, relies on Steve for survival, as if Namor hadn't been turned human before, which he has. Turning Jim against Namor earlier even though it was Jim who sought out Steve to help Namor. Jim and Namor's relationship is much stronger than Namor and Steve's so to have Steve sorta usurp that as if he and Namor were the best of friends doesn't work.

"I know you are good but everyone wants you dead, even Jim" Again in the beginning Steve didn't want to help, it was Jim who pushed Steve to it.

In general just Steve berating Namor, talking down to him, pushing aside his concerns to be the morally superior one is something that's affected both characters for a long time in the comics. But again, I'm used to that, what really drove me away from committing to liking Zdarsky's Namor is how he couldn't commit to his vision, which I feel was a Namor who under mind control damages the world/people's lives and has to live with that, who's dream of a safe future is actually a nightmare. He writes Namor as this very pessimistic, worn down, character who shoulders the blame that isn't his but then turns around and decides he won't shoulder that blame anymore.

Zdarsky can't decide if Namor should be blamed for his mind control/manipulation by Xavier or if he shouldn't. The writer has Steve once again become Namor's "moral compass" and tell him what to do, how to do it, why he's wrong. It gets tiring to see it but mostly this last issue really couldn't decide if Namor should be absolved or not. It doesn't take into account Namor's previous characterization and seems to play off a version that's doesn't have that surety of self that Namor usually has.

It's not the first time he's been possessed or had his mind taken over. Zdarsky's Namor is a mixed bag, he's all at once a sympathetic character whos is dealing with decades long trauma coming back to hit him at once but also he's a cruel character who suddenly decides that he's totally innocent/not to blame for anything?

Issue 11 ends with Namor and Steve teaming up to take responsibility for the mess that was made and fix it, but then issue 12 has Namor once again rejecting his part in it??? He lays the blame on his team mates instead.

The dynamics are off between the Invaders team as well because frankly I don't think Zdarsky can write the Torches well, so Jim and Toro suffered, and they are the heart of the team so that affects the rest of the characters.

In the end I personally feel there were some good aspects but mostly it just had a slightly off character reading for most of the people involved except Steve and Bucky who were most in character.

#invaders #chip zdarsky #namor #steve rogers #jim hammond #toro raymond #bucky barnes #imp answers

[wanderingmind867]

You know, Marvel had less of the teen sidekick trope than DC. I think. Bucky Barnes, the original Human Torch's sidekick Toro and Rick Jones. I think that's it for teen sidekicks. I mean, we had some teen heroes (spiderman and the o5 X-Men). But only three teen sidekicks.

But then we look at DC and we have enough teen sidekicks for me to think we need to call child protective services on all these child soldiers. Just going by wikipedia, we've got Robin, Aqualad, Kid Flash, Speedy, Snapper Carr, Green Lantern's rascist Inuit/"Eskimo" friend Pieface, etc. Seriously. Do I have to call social services to report 15 child soldiers in the greater united states!? This is bordering on the surreal. At least Marvel didn't do the child soldier thing nearly as often! Maybe Stan Lee just understood it was a bit weird. I don't know. But I'm glad Marvel had less child sidekicks.

#Is it me? #or is this actually weird #just now many adolescents were fighting gangsters!? #it borders on the surreal #but I still like marvel's few teen sidekicks #bucky barnes #toro raymond #rick jones #marvel #marvel comics #marvel universe #dc #dc comics #dc universe #dcu #dc critical #in a way #anti batman #anti bruce wayne #comic books #comics #superheroes

[imperiuswrecked]

Johnny Storm has occasionally been portrayed as a fan of Jim Hammond, what qualities do you think Johnny would admire about Jim, why exactly would Johnny be a fan of Jim?

I honestly think Johnny had more than a little crush on Jim, like a celebrity crush with some hero worship, and he'd admire Jim's bravery since that's what he would see from the comics he read of Jim, but the first time they met in Fantastic Four (1961) Annual 4, Jim was being controlled and that issue isn't one I like to talk about because Marvel only brought Jim back to kill him off so that Jim's creator Carl Burgos wouldn't get the rights or money for his Human Torch creation. The second time we see more of Johnny's feelings about Jim in The Torch (2016) #5 we definitely see Johnny awestruck.

Later Johnny even sees Jim as sorta the best Human Torch because Jim doesn't make a mistake like him and he's embarrassed but Toro tells him that Jim is different than them, this is because Toro and Johnny are Humans and Jim is a Synthetic Human.

I think Johnny just really admires Jim and wants to emulate him at times because of that teen hero worship he once held. Jim was celebrity in the 30s/40s in the marvel universe so I feel its sorta like "Johnny wanted to grow up and be like his favorite movie star". Jim is really brave and kind and beloved, so who wouldn't want to be that?

Human Torch Comics 70th Anniversary

It would actually be one of my dream comics come true if Marvel ever put out a limited series called Torch: Legacy and it be centered on Johnny bonding with Toro and Jim and they become a Torch Family.

#johnny storm #human torch #jim hammond #toro raymond #imp answers

[magnetothemagnificent]

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#the invaders #the invaders marvel #steve rogers #captain america #namor mckenzie #namor the sub mariner #jaqueline falsworth #spitfire #jim hammond #the original human torch #toro raymond #lord james montgomery falsworth #union jack #the original union jack #brian falsworth #bucky barnes #marvel comics #marvel #marvel memes

[someonewhocollectswildherbs]

I made another one

Finding pictures of them is HARD

#namor #the invaders #steve rogers #marvel invaders #bucky barnes #jim x namor #jim hammond #spitfire #union jack #jacqueline falsworth #alpine the cat #toro raymond