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Every time I have to type out my initials, my phone sort of auto typos it to Asmo and idk if I should be frustrated by that or oddly proud.

#I don't even really write his name that much #Also shout out to my phone starting to read typos as words #It reads like as lkke now #For fun I guess. #obey me #obey me! asmodeus

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Are all the celestial blessing style events ones where something dramatic happens to pull MC away from the brothers?

Like what are yall trying say, solmare?

#Bc I will fight to not be taken away #Especially since I finally got through enough of lesson 20 to get Lucifer's pact #Don't play with my feelings #obey me #obey me! lucifer #obey me! leviathan #obey me! asmodeus #obey me! mammon #obey me! beelzebub #obey me! satan #obey me! belphegor

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I didn't know protective big brother Leviathan was something I needed but Boi howdy is it refreshing.

#Meanwhile it feels like Lucifer barely gives a fuck #Like sure let the butterflies have his stupid horny ass #obey me! lucifer #obey me #obey me! leviathan #obey me! asmodeus #obey me! mammon #obey me! beelzebub #obey me! satan #obey me! belphegor #Obey me! Phantom butterfly event #Phantom butterfly event

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Wwaaaiiittttt a second.

Wait a second.

What?

So. Um. Simeon wrote TSL, right? And its funny bc in the early game as Levi describes it we can all tell it's the same story as the brothers. And when we do the TSL quiz, MCs trump card is knowing about the next book, but we don't actually get to know what that is while we play it.

*was he writing about MC being Lilith's descendant???*

Also why tf am I so much more attentive to the story line of this on the second play through?

#obey me #obey me! lucifer #obey me! leviathan #obey me! asmodeus #obey me! mammon #obey me! beelzebub #obey me! satan #obey me! belphegor #obey me simeon

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Post Lesson 15 intimacy ranking ttiiiimmeee

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12- Lucifer

10- Asmodeus

9- Diavolo

8- Mammon

7- Barbatos

6- Solomon

5- Leviathan, Simeon

4- Satan

3- Belphegor, Luke

2- Beelzebub

Huh..... Didn't think they'd get this spread out. Probably the fault of using them to varying degrees in jobs. Also thought it would take me longer to get through this point, but honestly this last event helped a lot in expanding devil trees.

#obey me #obey me! lucifer #obey me! leviathan #obey me! asmodeus #obey me! mammon #obey me! beelzebub #obey me! satan #obey me! belphegor #obey me! barbatos #obey me! diavolo #Intimacy ranking #Long live Lucifuckers

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This post is about lesson 15 of the original obey me game;

If you are new to the game, please proceed with caution in regards to spoilers. This is also a long ass post. Sorry.

I should also preface this by saying I've written this sort of in the order of the way I came to my conclusion, so I understand it'll sound a bit like I've talked myself in a circle at one point.

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OK. So I'm playing through lesson 15, and in 15-7, we get from Lucifer the real story of what became of lilith. Now, it goes without much saying that the entire situation of the great celestial war and Lilith's not-quite death has put an incredible strain on the brothers as a family. But there are other, more background parts of this that are...... Maybe a bit odd an confusing on a second play though.

Allow me to elaborate.

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Prior to 15-7, the brothers all chime in about how much Belphegor loved humans. Well, all except Satan, but I'm getting to him. The thing that struck me the most was what Leviathan had to say;

*What time period did this all occur in??*

No seriously, for real. He talks about it like humans were at current, modern day levels of function and doing modern day shit. According to Google, the oldest known anime that still exists was made in 1917. And I'm of no religious background nor can Google give me a straight answer, but the fall according to real life was well before 1917.

Oh and I am *not* going to gloss over the fact that this disaster demon has been an Otaku since, like, "birth". Does Solmare really intend to look us in the eyes and expect us to belive, without ever showing us a serious side of him, that Diavolo saw Leviathan and was like "Yup, hand this man a navy!". #GrandAdmiralLeviathan, please and thank you.

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On to my next topic; Satan.

In lessons 9 - 12, we go through the whole body swap situation, where we discover (to some extent) how Satan came to be and learn more about the troubled dynamics between him and Lucifer.

It is because of the, shall we say, interesting way Satan came about, that there is room for debate about how integrated the two were with each other prior to the fall. And with 15-7, now to comes into question *when exactly* did Satan come forth?

I ask, because of this;

The body swap seems to give the impression that Satan began life almost as soon as the fall occurred, and yet here we see the younger demon has no idea what's being referenced. I see a few potential problems with this. One, being that we know from Satan himself that though he was no longer part of Lucifer, he retained the emotions felt for Lilith. How could the feeling of wanting so badly to save her and being successful by making that deal not have also been given to him? Should that not be the nagging voice in the back of his head saying something to him in this moment? I find it hard to believe that in all he inherited from Lucifer, that this didn't somehow pass on to him. Because if it didn't, and is was the most recent, most raw moment of emotion, then how has he retained any of it at all?

And this brings me to wonder just how 'conscious' Satan was while part of Lucifer. There seems to be plenty of general agreement that he was 'present' enough to know what was going on at any given point, but it's a headcanon at best Quick correction brought to you by the wiki, stating that Satan's memories of certain people are 'through Lucifer's eyes'. Thus far and to my best memory of my previous play through, it's not disclosed if Lucifer was even aware of Satan before he manifested.

But back to the timeline, I'd like to throw out another spoiler alert for the Devilgram "The search for the self", but keep in mind I'm only reading off the wiki as I don't currently have the card.

It's stated the Satan did not emerge until after Lucifer had torn away his wings my poor husbando, but in Lucifer's flash backs, he still had his wings. Granted, 4. Lucifer's own wiki page states that the removal of his wings happened *before* his deal with Diavolo. The question then becomes, if we take his 4 wings at face value, and the Devilgram as well as wiki into account, should Satan not have been here for the moment Lucifer made the deal to save Lilith?

The only reason Satan would have for not knowing at this point, was if he'd run off the moment he stabilized. And there's *no way* Diavolo would have let a freshly born and rightfully angry Satan terrorize his kingdom. So even if he had run away, either Diavolo or Barbatos would have caught him and he *still* would have been present by proxy of being freshly captured.

Satan not knowing about Lilith doesn't make sense, and I'm dying on this hill rn.

#obey me #obey me! lucifer #obey me! leviathan #obey me! asmodeus #obey me! mammon #obey me! beelzebub #obey me! satan #obey me! belphegor #obey me! diavolo #I don't know how to do spoiler cuts #Whoops #I'm sorry this is so long #Or at least long for me #But I just played through this part and it's bugging me #Satan should have already known #It's a continuity error #I'm dying on this hill

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Damn, only took me 3 years to finish this sketch.

***Frame is an Ibis Paint preset bc I got lazy.

I imagine this is like a portrait that is taken shorty after Leviathan gets the Grand Admiral title; Lucifer puts it among the paintings in the stairwell and bc Levi never leaves his room these days he has yet to notice it. Until MC does, compliments that he looks good in the uniform, and then he ends up having a mini crisis like "Ew why am I on the wall".

Anyway, I spent nearly 5 hours finishing this. Whoops.

#obey me #obey me! lucifer #obey me! leviathan #obey me! asmodeus #obey me! mammon #obey me! beelzebub #obey me! satan #obey me! belphegor #obey me art #obey me fanart #my art #ibispaintx

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Anyone else feel like the RAD uniform started out as a military thing? Like. It just looks so..... Official, ya know? And we know there's a Navy. Which came first, their military dress, or the RAD uniform?

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#obey me #obey me thoughts #obey me! lucifer #obey me! asmodeus #obey me! leviathan #obey me! mammon #obey me! beelzebub #obey me! satan #obey me! belphegor #obey me! diavolo

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I remember why this blog used to be Leviathan themed now.

The levels of second hand middle school cringe and embarrassment I get from his character is truly astounding. And like. I can't say shit either bc I have over 600 volumes of manga on my shelves and like at least 20 character statues at this point, and....... Yeeeaaahh we there buddy. I get you.

#obey me #obey me! leviathan #I relate #And honestly I don't even consider it cringe now #But me back in the day would have given this Otaku a run for his money #If he could ever get it back from Mammon first anyway

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Had a tiny dream about calling out of work and being pampered by Asmo, and honestly? I totally would call out if I didn't need things from that blasted store today.

#obey me #obey me! asmodeus #It was a cute dream #He did my hair #i felt pretty #If only in my mind

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Post-lesson 10 Intimacy rankings, less go!!!

10- Lucifer (fucking finally, suck it Asmo.... Or don't, ppfft)

9- Asmodeus

7- Mammon, Diavolo

6- Barbatos, Solomon

5- Simeon

4- Satan

3- Leviathan, Luke (I literally don't use him wtf)

2- Beelzebub

1- Belphegor (I did just get an SSR for him thou so this might go up before 16)

I really had to force the game to give me Lucifer in my guest interactions. Like Damn.

Also, the rng gods hate me and my most powerful cards at present are my Asmo UR+, A Diavolo UR, Lucifer SSR, and like 3 SSRs of Simeon. Problem is 3 of those 6 cards are Wrath and I'm stalled out on devil trees. I also don't have good enough Lust cards bc it stopped throwing my lvl 40 Lucifer into the battles (fucking annoying bc he's got his devil flower unlocked and all). Gonna be a while before I can make it through the next 5 lessons :/

#obey me #obey me! lucifer #obey me! leviathan #obey me! mammon #obey me! asmodeus #obey me! beelzebub #obey me! satan #obey me! belphegor #obey me! barbatos #obey me! diavolo #Intimacy ranking

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I didn't know this existed until a couple days ago and when I tell you I went straight to Amazon.......

You bet your ass I'm getting volume two when it's out.

This game ruins me in so many ways.........

#obey me #obey me the comic #obey me! lucifer #It mine now #i will never financially recover from this

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Not to find myself on tail tangents, but I did just have another thought that came to me about tail etiquette.

During the second time we find ourselves in the labyrinth, Mammon asks Leviathan if his tail is out and dragging on the ground, which seems to make Levi very uncomfortable and defensive. But I got to thinking, because...... This little interaction almost tells me that not only is it likely considered rude to leave your tail dragging behind you, but that being accused of such a thing is equally rude and shameful.

And what kills me about that is...... Who told them this? Because they were angels before. They didn't have tails. I imagine, Dia being the absolute golden retriever he is, probably didn't say anything to them because they were still adjusting to even having them. But if Lucifer had to stay close to Diavolo, and in turn a young and furious Satan to Lucifer, than I suspect it would have been Barb who would politely mention it in passing. The others would simply have caught the reprimanding from Lucifer like they should have known anyway.

It's just a neat little thing to think about, I guess. The boys having to adjust to not only their newly changed bodies, but to the customs and etiquette that's comes with their varying... Limbs, I guess.

#obey me #obey me! lucifer #obey me! satan #obey me! mammon #obey me! leviathan #obey me! barbatos #obey me! diavolo #More tail thoughts #don't mind me

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So does anyone actually think about how long Leviathans tail actually is? Because like, it occurred to me while playing through the retreat that it fucking long. Probably as long as he is tall if not more so.

And then I got to thinking....... We write fics that put that tail to use. Do you realize how thin it is at the tip? His fingers are thicker than his tail would be. And..... Well..... Only so much of that..... Would fit...... Ya'know??? Fics are great, reading them is fun, but the actual amount of fun to had there is uh...... All imagination, at that point.

#obey me #obey me! leviathan #Tail thoughts #Leviathans tail #I'm just not seeing the enjoyment ratio here #He'd love it #But uh #Mc might need more #Yeah?

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Lucifer, sighing: "What are we going to do with Mammon?"

Diavolo: "He'd make a very handsome throw rug."

Lucifer: "My lord???"

Diavolo: "Whenever he gets dirty you can take him out and beat him."

#incorrect quotes #incorrect obey me quotes #the lion king #obey me #obey me! lucifer #obey me! mammon #obey me! diavolo #This just came to me and I had to laugh #sorry not sorry

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I never realized how much the early game sucks at character development. Like unholy fuck, dude. I'm on lesson 7 and they're all still collectively shitting on Levi for having hobbies, and treating Mammon like garbage, and Asmo is just a horndog, and all Beel has is food and like........ Fuck.

I know I'm coming back to this game because I liked it in the first place, but I'm starting to wonder how this characterization problem didn't bother me the first time. I know it gets better. I know. But. Damn. Early game is painful to be rereading.

#Seriously why is it written like this #Asmo wants to be up his own ass #Mammon wants to steal from the actual prince of hell like that won't have major repercussions #Levi is.... Building ruri shrines???? #Beel ate a painting....... They either want us to think he's dumb or that his stomach is steel #Get me to lesson 16 already this is awful to read rn #obey me #obey me! lucifer #obey me! asmodeus #obey me! beelzebub #obey me! leviathan #obey me! mammon #obey me! satan #obey me! belphegor

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Hey wait the fuck a minute....

Solmare you trippin?

In the early part of the game, before you make a pact with Beel, he's telling us about lilith, right? We'll he keeps referring to them as a group of 8. Who's the eighth, my guy?

Because Satan didn't exist (at the very least in a pure physical form) until after the fall. So even with lilith, there would still have only been seven. They sorta - 1, + 1'd themselves.

How did I not catch this the first time around? (bc les be honest ya girl spoils things for herself a lot)

#obey me #obey me! lucifer #obey me! beelzebub #obey me! satan #obey me! belphegor #no for real tho #Bc like who tf is the eighth person if yall didn't even know Satan was gonna happen #I mean lucifer didn't know Satan was gonna happen either #But still