the art of being a skeptical turtle
So this is a personal post more about my experience as a turtle. If you just want to get to the fun list of candies I totally buy into regardless of evidence, just skip down to where the asterisks are. (Consider this like a recipe attached to a blog post)
For those interested in the whole nerdery going on here, let me share that I had a lot of trouble coming to terms with bjyxszd. I wrote a whole series of posts about it to get my thoughts in order. Now I'm fully on the turtle train, but I find myself skeptical of some candies.
This is gonna get super-nerdy so hold on to your butts.
I'm a generally skeptical person. I come by it honestly. My parents literally subscribed to Skeptical Inquirer and Skeptics magazines. They (well, my dad mainly) were capital-S Skeptics. My family talked about logical fallacies, perceptual oddness, and the fallibility of memory over the dinner table.
Please don't back away. I know self-identified Skeptics are typically insufferable. I didn't know this as a kiddo, though, so the whole "thinking about things skeptically" became just my default way of processing stuff. Nowadays, I wouldn't call myself a Skeptic in the way that some in a particularly obnoxious subculture do. But I do tend to be a skeptical sort. I just don't...you know...think it makes me smarter/better/cooler than other folks.
(Actually, it makes me way less cool bc I can single-handedly ruin a fun party by expressing skepticism about something. Nobody likes a wet blanket. I know this)
My bestie in high school always called me Scully to his Mulder. He would believe anything he saw or read, whereas I didn't. Usually, I was right. Like when he totally thought that the Blair Witch Project was real found footage (It's not. Nobody thinks it is now, I know, but it was part of the promo at the time). On occasion, he was right. Like when he told me that some gray clouds we had overheard were from wildfires in Mexico. I scoffed bc, really, we weren't that close to Mexico. But he was right and I learned a valuable lesson on large-scale weather phenomenon. (He's still wrong about there being a picture of a light bulb in the pyramids though)
So, yeah, that's just how I process things. It's second-nature for me. But I reached a point with my generally skeptical outlook where I considered 2 things to see whether I really cared if people were buying into something I thought was false.
The stakes. If a person believes X, what does that lead to? If I don't believe Y, even though it's true, what does that lead to?
There's a whole bunch of political stuff that heightens the stakes. To take a ridiculous (and outdated one), when I was growing up, there was a common story that AIDS hopped from apes to humans because a gay man had sex with an ape and then had sex with other humans. Thus, the AIDS epidemic.
The stakes of other people buying into that homophobic nonsense were (and are) life and death. (If you believe that...uh...bye?) It's something that's worth me being the obnoxious Scully if I hear someone buying into it.
The stakes of, say, my high school bestie believing that The Blair Witch Project was real found footage was...nothing. It just made him want to see the movie more. Nobody was hurt. It didn't matter.
I argued with him at the time, but I probably wouldn't anymore.
The stakes for believing that bjyxszd, here in international fandom, are perhaps higher than the Blair Witch thing. But only barely. If somebody believes in a particular rumor/candy that I don't think is real, it affects literally nothing. We're both still turtles. We have a lot more in common than we do difference with regards to YiZhan. Likewise, the effect of me not believing a candy that may be true is nil. Gg and dd are not impacted in any way.
(I think things may be different for c-fans, but that's not at all a thing I'm qualified to delve into. I can only account for myself in my context)
2. The other thing I consider is the context. That is, how likely are we to know the actual truth?
Scientific claims have a method to test them (and claims that can't be tested are just...not something science addresses). Claims about current events can be researched using journalism methods or whatever. For that homophobic AIDS story, there's ways to prove that it's not true. For the Blair Witch thing...well, the actors went on the talk show circuit for promo so, you know, the real footage myth was quickly lifted.
Celebrities exist in a different context. Like most people, they have a private life that is not accessible to people on the outside. If they choose to open up about that life, then cool. But if they don't or can't do so (like is the case with YiZhan), then they'll try to keep their private life out of sight of fans.
It really hit home to me when I was doing the bts thing how little of dd and gg we saw in the Untamed bts. We see even less of them now. I'm at peace with the fact that I just will never know much about these guys (I wrote a whole post about it). But the fact that there's a big mass of the unknown means that the possibilities are endless. We don't know and we'll never know.
So I don't have any more authority on anything gg or dd related than anybody else does. So why would I attempt to question or dismiss candies that other people find compelling? At the end of the day, there is a truth, but it's not accessible to us, so anything we come up with is just extrapolation.
Which is fine. It's fun. I think there's real stuff going on. (If I didn't, I wouldn't be here) But it means there's no real point arguing about the specific candies.
(and to be clear, I don't see turtles doing this, really. so this is all just me reiterating my own approach to things bc I'm a person who processes thoughts through long tumblr posts apparently) (and it's not a reaction to any particular candy. this post has been in my drafts for ages)
I think I'm a hard sell on a lot of candies, and I'm definitely the fuddy-duddy who just squints and asks a bunch of obnoxious questions about things.
But I ask those questions of myself and don't feel the need to annoy other turtles with them because, honestly, we're all in this boat together. Some candies appeal to particular turtles more than others, and I think we all kinda have our personal preferences for which ones resonate with us. I'm not here to rain on anybody's parade, especially as we all have way more in common just bc we all believe in bjyxszd.
This is all a long-winded way to explain how I think about candies, honestly. Or more, how I assess candies that are new-to-me and figure out whether to buy into it or not. With anything involving bjyx, I also leave a lot of room for there just being an unknown and unknowable. Again, the stakes are low, and if I'm wrong about any particular candy (in either direction), then...oh well? It affects literally nothing.
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So here's the fun part! The list of candies that I fully admit don't have a whole lot going for them (by my stupidly exacting standards) but that I totally buy into just because I like them.
Basically all lip-readings, but especially this one
(if you don't want to click thru, this is the moment from the Nanjing farewell concert where dd and gg seem to flirt about photos while on-stage)
Okay, I know, rationally, that lip-readings are always gonna be shaky. I mean, I've seen Medieval Land Fun-Time World. If I'm honest with myself, I know that the lip-readings are basically fluffy candy.
But whatever. I choose to believe them. This moment, especially, I adore (and it does come with dd posting a bare-faced photo after!). I think their big grins while openly flirting with each other on stage just jazzes me enough to pretend.
It's all true. I totally believe it.
Related to this is:
2. Any and all CPN about dd and/or gg seeing turtle signs and smiling or otherwise reacting positively.
I've seen such CSI-worthy analysis of sight-lines to try to establish with precision where dd or gg is looking at the moment they smile/look happy. I have no idea how much any of it holds up, and it's not worth the bother to try to confirm any of it.
But whatever. I like it. I believe it. I'll probably believe it everytime it happens.
3. Advanced Bombology.
So there's some things that aren't in dispute here. We definitely know that gg suddenly cut an Olay commercial ad from a 2 day shoot to a 1 day shoot, and it's a reasonable assumption that he did so to be at the DDU anniversary episode with GG.
The rest is a little fuzzy. The video details dd being kinda grouchy in interviews before the DDU shoot, and it also shares an anon rumor from a person who claimed to overhear dd in a studio restroom arguing on the phone with gg. This rumor came out a year after the event.
The rest of the video is some interpretation of the boys' behavior/mood in the DDU anniversary ep.
So, like, I get that anon rumors a year on maybe aren't the most solid evidence for anything. But whatever, I buy it.
And the interpretation of the boys' mood seems true to me, especially the moment where the interviewer asks gg if they'd discussed his visit ahead of time. Gg def does a sweatdrop, panic pause, look at dd moment and waits for dd's lead to answer. I find a lot of mood interpretation from videos a bit much, but this feels real.
In fact, the whole thing just feels real. Maybe that's why it's easy for me to buy. It feels like a real argument a couple would have.
4. The 5/22 fight during CQL shooting.
I talked about this back when I was doing the bts in order.
In tl;dr, dd gives gg a bit of a brush-off response to something. gg responds by cold shouldering him and then doing some passive aggressive sniping about how dd doesn't want gg to care about him. dd gets upset, then he apologizes, then they go on to watch something on one of their phones.
The basis of this one is some gossip plus a video shot from a distance that requires reading lips. So we know that's already fuzzy, and I know I approached this with some skepticism in my earlier post. That was just to be rational about things so as to be honest with myself.
In truth, I buy it. I buy the argument. I buy the lip-reading. Again, it feels real.
5. GG's card to turtles
This is one of those frustrating ones I'm having trouble refinding. Darn.
The upshot, and I'm going from memory, is that there's a CPN about a card written to turtles ostensibly from gg. This came with some handwriting comparison to try to match the signature to gg's known signature.
This isn't something I'd place bets on, because...seriously, it's so fuzzy.
But in my heart, I believe it for no reason other than that I want to.
6. DD as gg's mystery driver
Okay, there's a couple such incidents. One quite recently. Where gg's driver is mysteriously masked such that you can't see their face.
And, truth, it could be literally anybody under there. But for me, it's dd. No need to give me painstaking comparisons of hands or whatever. I'm fully in on this one.
7. The bone necklace.
Ack, don't hate me for this one!
When I was doing my posts about stuff that had convinced me that gg and dd were still together, I stumbled with the bone necklace. To me, it's the main thing that convinces me, but if I'm honest, it really is kinda a leap of faith thing.
With the ox-head necklace, we have the fancam footage to back it up as being from gg. All we have for the bone necklace is the timing and the precedent of dd having already worn a necklace from gg. That's shaky, really.
In fact, I think I saw some other dd CP claiming the bone necklace as theirs (I saw them also claiming the Leica camera). I think they're wrong, but I don't have any solid proof to say so.
I think the most I can say is that there are much harder evidences that gg and dd are still together. But these typically involve massive privacy violations so I'm not eager to spread them around (I kinda hate that I stumble upon them, tbh). But in any case, it has me convinced, so if I already know gg and dd are a couple, then of course the bone necklace is related.
But on its own, the bone necklace is a leap.
Okay, that all said, since I (finally) had a photo of dd last time I posted, I'm dropping a random gg photo here. Not my favorite, cause pls don't make me choose, but one that hangs out my head throughout the days.
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𝐠𝐫𝐞𝐞𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐬 𝐝𝐚𝐫𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐬 , i'm nassy , twenty6 . this is a selective MULTIMUSE blog featuring canon & original muses from various fandoms such as ; jujutsu kaisen , kinnporsche , my name , wheel of time , alice in borderland , and more ! triggering themes will be written in this blog .
promo. docs. aesthetic sideblog.
muse list under the cut ! ♡
GOJO SATORU ; jujutsu kaisen . pinboard
MEGUMI FUSHIGURO ; jujutsu kaisen .
GETO SUGURU ; jujutsu kaisen .
RYOUMEN SUKUNA ; jujutsu kaisen .
KONG SHIU ; jujutsu kaisen .
TOGE INUMAKI ; jujutsu kaisen .
JEAN KIRSTEIN ; attack on titan .
EREN YEAGER ; attack on titan .
DO GANG-JAE ; my name . pinboard
CHOI MU-JIN ; my name .
OK EUL-TAE ; bulgasal . pinboard
SEO SEOK-WOO ; train to busan .
KIM SHIN ; goblin .
NIRAGI SUGURU ; alice in borderland .
SHIBUKI SAORI ; alice in borderland .
KYUMA GINJI ; alice in borderland .
PALERMO ; la casa de papel . ( request )
JILL HOLTZMANN ; ghostbusters .
MINORU SATŌ / KING OF HEARTS ; alice in borderland pinboard
KINN THEERAPANYAKUL ; kinnporsche .
VEGAS THEERAPANYAKUL ; kinnporsche . pinboard
TIME RATANAPAKORN ; kinnporsche .
VEERA RATANAPAKORN ; kinnporsche . pinboard
BI-HAN ; mortal kombat .
KUAI LIANG ; mortal kombat .
SANTINO D'ANTONIO ; john wick .
LEGOLAS ; lord of the rings . pinboard
GELLERT GRINDELWALD ; fantastic beasts .
CROWLEY ; good omens .
BEELZEBUB ; good omens .
COBB VANTH ; star wars .
ARMITAGE HUX ; star wars .
KOTALLO ; horizon forbidden west .
DRAKKA ; horizon forbidden west .
NIL ; horizon forbidden west .
ABADUND ; horizon forbidden west .
GENESIS RHAPSODOS ; ff .
KAZUYUKI ASAKAWA ; ringu book .
THE SALESMAN ; squid game . pinboard ( will be featured here until the second season is out and then will be carried to his own solo blog on @salesmn . hehe . )
NELL CRAIN ( book ) ; haunting of hillhouse .
MIKA ; darren shan / cirque du freak .
THEODORA ( book ) ; haunting of hillhous .
ALANNA MOSVANI ; wheel of time .
LAN MANDRAGORAN ; wheel of time .
ELVEERA IL'MORA ( o.c ) ; wheel of time .
LARTEN CREPSLEY ; darren shan / cirque du freak .
KIM MI-CHA ; fandomless gang leader oc . about her
to be added ... ♡
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It is very telling that only Harry came out of 1d with a good head on his shoulders and a vision for his future. The rest of them just threw their hands at a solo career to one up the other without really having any plans or goals for their future.
Zayn - Went the Justin Timberlake route by quitting the band mid tour and causing a worldwide breakdown which helped him launch his career. Shaded the band non stop to cause headlines and to get easy promo. Had a decent couple of years thanks to massive collaborations and Pillowtalk and then everything went downhill. Drugs, smoking, attitude and overall laziness sealed his fate. I don't take his anxiety as a factor because he seems to be using it as an excuse for his laziness. Because there is no way he could not have pre recorded an interview or a performance in the 6 years since he went solo. Even during lockdown when he was releasing NIL. Everyone was doing pre recorded interviews and performances right from inside their houses. And he couldn't?? And now he is back to singing 1d songs, label-less and has a criminal record under his belt. Nice.
Liam - Went solo by releasing the most typical basic song an ex-boybander could release. Did non stop promo and toured the world promoting that song. Bragged and bragged and bragged about the said song and shaded the others specially Harry for his music and singing. Thought he was the JT of 1D. Released more typical mainstream songs closer to each other. None being a non collaboration except Bedroom Floor. Jumped on every song that came his way. Kept lying about an album from day 1 but took him 4 years to release and then kept lying about a 1D reunion that came and bit his ass later on. Had no vision from the start and lost his way within 1 year of going solo. Now has a reputation for being the dumbest member of 1D and is ridiculed by everyone whenever he opens his mouth. Drugs, alcohol and excessive partying sealed his fate. Now a full time TikToker and a Youtuber at best.
Niall - Had no distinguished personality of his own, so after going solo started to copy Harry left and right. Had a decent first year as a solo artist, but showed signs of being a narcissistic asshole. Kept on doing everything Harry did. Literally followed Harry's every move. But still had a good first year. Debut theatre tour in 2018 was a disaster and didn't sell out to the point his team had to hide the boxscores. And then came his 2nd era and that was when he truly showed his colors as a bona fide narcissistic asshole. Constantly screamed at his fans on social media to "stream, download and buy" his music and "take them up the charts". Clearly pissed off about Harry's singles doing better because both released around the same time. One point even tweeting "you know I got a single out as well. Stream, download and buy it and take it up the charts". It was the same time Lights Up was doing its thing though it wasn't a radio single. Annoyed literally everyone, fan and non fans alike. Turned off his casual listeners including some Harries. Announced an arena tour because well, Harry was doing that too, though he couldn't sell his first theatre tour. Then dragged the album for months and paid the price for it when lockdown hit. Had to cancel the tour blaming the pandemic, but the real reason was that the tickets weren't sold out. And still to this day copies or tries to copy Harry. Dragging the release of NH3 which will eventually bite his ass around. And lastly a special shoutout to his Guinness love.
Louis - Had zero talent to begin with and I still wonder how he is an artist in the music industry. Luck is what he has. And luck is what is getting him through his entire career. The biggest luck of them all is being 1/2 of a conspiracy theory with one of the biggest popstars in the world aka Harry. Luck got him to 1D, attaching himself to Harry got him through 1D, and then pity and Harry again is currently getting him through his solo career. Hates everything to do with being labelled as gay, but now shamelessly baiting his entire fandom which is entirely comprised of conspiracy theorists. Loves to cosplay people and is an absolutely disgusting person with chav like tendencies. Addicted to alcohol and smoking and flaunts it around like it is his aesthetic. And I hate to say this but out of the 3 members above him, he seems to have a more stable career now. Can't believe I said this, but yeah. Might change with LT2 and his personal life choices with his son and girlfriend. But he still can't sing or write any music. And still he is as untalented as ever like he always will be.
Harry - I don't have to say anything about our king. He is The Harry Styles. And he will be The Harry Styles for decades to come. A true legend in the making. Grammy's, BRITs, more accolades, more movies, hopefully Oscars, Emmys, more record breaking #1 albums and singles, a cute loving happy family of his own. His life and career will only go from strength to strength and he will continue to shine as bright as a star for years and years to come. We just have to buckle up and witness the making of a true legend.
Sorry for the massive ask. Had to say it.
Fantastic summary! Agree with all this. 👏👏👏👏
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