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shima-draws · 4 months
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Carmine’s reaction to bringing out Ogerpon in battle against her is so cute…
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Meanwhile Kieran. Uh. Kieran’s,
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daisymylove · 1 year
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My issues with chain of thorns aside, Thomas' come out was so fucking funny bc of how in character all the interactions were
Thomas, being the dramatic queen he is, simply decided to yell it out to his whole family without preamble and completely out of the blue that he's in love with a dude
Gideon ,our clueless sweetheart (bless his heart, he's trying), was like I wanna be supportive but I dont understand wtf is going on.you're in love? with carstairs? when did THAT happen? Help
Eugenia, another huge-ass dramatic queen, was like YALL HEARD HIM MOTHERFUCKERS,YOUR OPTIONS HERE ARE ACCEPTANCE OR ACCEPTANCE
And sophie, our always practical babe, was like enough chit chat all of you.When is son in law coming for dinner?
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layla-carstairs · 1 year
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the fact nobody got slapped in tlh is a crime, several of those characters should have been humbled asap
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im still not ok you guys
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belle-keys · 1 year
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Dearest James Herondale, are you absolutely sure your father has never ever been angry with his parabatai in his life? Are you super sure? Are you doubtless? Are you certain? By chance, have you, uh, tried asking your mother? Just by chance?
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cassie is just killing lightwoods for sport now
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clockwork-carstairs · 3 months
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the last hours was actually so tragic. like maybe it’s the edwardian london thing that makes it seem more tragic to me but damn all that miscommunication made them all so LONELY and isolated when they didn’t have to be. in tid even when will thought he was cursed he had jem, and even when he was being awful to tessa she still had other people in her life like jem and sophie. jem and tessa had no family, but they had people they talked to and shared their fears with. in the dark artifices, they’re this really strong family unit, the tragedy is horrible but there’s a network around them all (blackthorns + emma + kit) so no one’s really alone.
but in the last hours like….these kids HAVE parents and friend groups and supposed best friends even, yet they seem more isolated than any other series mains. james doesn’t tell anyone about the gracelet and what he went through (fair enough bec it was terrible and traumatising). but then it’s not just that. cordelia isn’t telling anyone what she’s going through. lucie isn’t telling anyone what she’s going through (trying to bring someone back to life???) – and they’re supposedly best friends and future parabatai! and matthew isn’t telling anyone what he’s going through, not his parabatai either, and no one wants to address how visibly he’s suffering. and grace, she’s actually alone. and it just seems so lonely and sad and they all seem so isolated even though they shouldn’t be, because unlike the tid and tda mains, the tlh lot actually have parents and their own homes (for the most part). the start of chain of thorns especially is just really painful because they’re all suffering ALONE when they all have people around them they just don’t bridge the gap. it just feels so lonely which is almost ironic bec what about the friendship of the merry thieves and the parabatai bonds and best friendship?
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ninacarstairss · 1 year
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now that i know what the original ending was supposed to be, i’m so happy cassie changed it. this ending might be a little too happy and unrealistic but honestly, after all the pain in the tsc universe, i love that she spared us the detailed death of basically everyone in tlh and the pain of james being in his death bed and thinking about his long lost friends
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thepictureofsdr · 1 year
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me being hesitant to headcanon thomas as demi a few months ago vs. thomas STRAIGHT UP SAYING HES NEVER LOVED ANYONE BUT ALASTAIR
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rinadragomir · 1 year
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Recap of Cassandra Clare’s Dublin event – Part One
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Link to the original tmi source
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shima-draws · 7 months
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Kieran has me in a chokehold. His character arc is so GOOD. You can tell that his bitterness and anger doesn’t just come from everything that’s happened to him recently. It’s pretty obvious that he’s been living in Carmine’s shadow for a LONG time and she’s always kinda treated him badly. But it wasn’t until the player character came along that he was finally able to voice that in his own way;; Just when he thinks he’s made a true friend in someone, someone that can and will stand up to his sister and is able to defeat her in battle (which inspires him to start speaking up for himself more), Carmine steals them away. And that’s a big betrayal to him. He clearly has self esteem issues which leads to him thinking that Carmine was talking shit about him behind his back and getting the player to believe that he wasn’t worth being friends with. And that makes him think both of them were laughing at him and making fun of him. And THEN the player goes and takes the last thing that Kieran has, the last thing he truly cares about: Ogerpon. It’s no wonder he got so frustrated and petty and lashed out 😭 Still breaks my heart to see but they did a really good job showing that progression of him losing more and more of his patience with Carmine. And him generally feeling like everything he cares about is being torn away. And losing to the player over and over just makes things WORSE. He’s not strong enough to beat them, he’s not strong enough to stand up to his sister, he’s not strong enough to be worthy of Ogerpon, he’s not strong. He needs to get stronger. Stronger and stronger and stronger.
GODDDD. He’s going to live rent free in my brain forever now. I can’t wait to see the direction they take with him in The Indigo Disk
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daisymylove · 1 year
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Thomastair is Chot's great highlight aren't they?
Alastair stole my heart on this book, and even their drama is hilarious
Alastair self sabotaging: Oh no Thomas we can't, your friends will never accept us, especially Matthew
Matthew: Im actually fine with it bruh. My life is a dumpster fire and I've seen weirder shit happen
James: I'm your brother in law, ding dong
Kit: my crush is currently in jail, I really don't have the moral high ground to judge anyone.And I wouldn't anyway
Alastair: Oh... well, Thomas you couldn't possibly want me, wretched being that I am
Thomas: *being the embodiment of the homer simpson-going-down-a-staircase-on-a- wedding gown meme when it comes to alastair since day fucking one* I want you baby
Alastair: are you sure? Like sure, sure? I'm bad for you
Thomas: I AM SURE, I LIKE BAD (and no, you're not)
Alastair: gay panicking and sweating cause the excuses ran out
Thomas: all ready and willing to spend the rest of his days with alastair and have his persian babies
Sophiedeon: We love you, but BITCH CALM THE FUCK DOWN
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layla-carstairs · 1 year
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if I had a nickel for everytime Charlotte revealed she was pregnant at the end of the last book of the series, I would have two nickels. which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
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neeksxoxo · 1 year
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James: *getting possessed by Grace, not saying what the heck was going on, not going through the Portal, going to hell* Will: Will: Will, to Charlotte: i am so sorry i have no idea this is how it felt
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belle-keys · 1 year
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The Elephant in the Room: Matthew is the only one who knows about Jessa (Theory)
I believe that Matthew is the only one of that generation who knows that Herongraystairs is a, uh, arrangement between three people, and that Jem and Tessa remained having feelings for each other even while Will and Tessa were married. I do not think James and Lucie and Cordelia and the rest of the gang know.
After finishing Chain of Thorns and personally being of the opinion we needed more love triangle content instead of less, this scene at the end of Chain of Gold has gobsmacked me in retrospect. This is during James and Cordelia’s engagement party and it’s in Magnus’ POV. Magnus has caught on to the fact that Matthew secretly loves Cordelia.
Magnus cleared his throat. "I see why my waistcoats cannot hold your attention, Fairchild. I've been where you are. Wanting what you can't have will only rip your heart apart." Matthew spoke in a low voice. "It would be one thing if James loved her. I would go into the quiet dark like Jem did and never speak of her again. But he doesn’t love her.” “What?" Magnus was unpleasantly startled.
This is the first and only instance of a mention in The Last Hours of the fact that Jem and Tessa ever had or still do have romantic feelings for each other, and that Will was the one of the two of them who "got the girl". I do not believe Lucie, Cordelia, or James know of the true events of Clockwork Princess or the reality of Herongraystairs. Let me enumerate some reasons why:
This is the first and only instance in TLH of Jem and Tessa’s feelings for each other being acknowledged by any character, despite Wessa being happily married. This is only one of the only instances of us being reminded of Jem’s past as a Shadowhunter in the series. Note the lack of “Uncle Jem”. He’s just talking about our Jem. Magnus gets startled by everything Matthew has just said. It's clear they're also speaking strictly in confidence.
In ChoT, we have two parabatai who are in love with the same woman, and said woman has feelings for both of them. Yet not once in ChoT throughout that whole love triangle drama do Lucie, James or Cordelia or anyone even liken their own situation to the near-identical version of it that happened between Herongraystairs. They treat the idea of two best friends loving the same woman and said woman having feelings for both of them in return as something alien. Because they don’t know it even happened before.
And what's also weird in ChoT is that Tessa had pulled Cordelia aside in the carriage to ask her if everything was "okay" with her and James, but also if everything was “okay” with her and Matthew. Yet Tessa doesn't even ever allude to having been in a similar situation to the one Cordelia was in. It's obvious that Will and Tessa know that Cordelia had feelings for Matthew and that something went down in Paris between them, and yet Will said nothing to James about being in that very specific situation. Because James doesn’t know.
We get so many instances of James and Lucie talking about Will and Jem being the best of parabatai, and also many instances of them musing about Will and Tessa and their parents’ love. Yet not once did James ever even think to ask his favorite Uncle Jem for any advice about "hey, what do you do when you and your parabatai love the same woman?”, the same Uncle Jem that he goes to when he needs advice about any and every thing. It’s not knowledge to them that Jessa was ever a thing, or a serious thing.
Blackfriars Bridge was absolutely happening throughout TLH, yet not once do James or Lucie even think of or acknowledge that their mother and Uncle Jem were meeting once a year for their whole lifetimes at the same spot in London, and without Will. Seems like the kind of thing you’d at least passively think about if you'd had the knowledge. They don’t know.
In ChoT, Will tells the story of how he rescued Tessa from Mortmain in Wales and he alludes to the events of Clockwork Princess a lot in TLH. He absolutely never mentions that it was at that point in the story that he had "broken up" Jessa and that it rested on the fact that Jem also was very, very close to death. He never tells the story factoring in Jem as “the other man” at all. Likewise, in ChoG, both Lucie and James laugh at the Lightworm story a couple times, yet neither of them mention they know that it happened when Tessa was about to marry… Jem, and not their own father.
What sealed the deal in ChoT for me: "It was something James loved about his father, but it also meant he could not approach him to talk about Matthew and Cordolia. James was sure Will had never been angry with Jem in his life". James doesn’t know that there were, uh, conflicts between Will and Jem, because he doesn’t even know the context behind those, uh, conflicts that he doesn’t know about. He is clueless.
Here’s why I think it’s a secret, why only Matthew knows, and what the implications are:
Tessa would be ruined as a woman, as @amchara pointed out, if the information was known. Eugenia had an understanding with that one irrelevant douchebag, and her reputation has suffered for it incessantly since the understanding was broken off. Tessa had, uh, more than just an understanding with Jem. Lol. She already has a demonic heritage. I’m certain if the Clave knew she’d once had a thing with her husband’s parabatai-turned-Brother Zachariah in addition to being the daughter of a Prince of Hell, she’d be presque-crucified for it.
We simply don’t get Matthew POVs. That’s probably intentional as it relates to issues like this. He clearly knows about Jessa and the Jessa business. He was the first person that knew that Cordelia was in love with James all along. According to Cordelia in ChoT Ch24, she was sure Matthew knew something had “changed” between her and James. Matthew was also like, the first of the gang to hate Grace and hate her being with James without even knowing about the gracelet. Matthew had also picked up that James' feelings for Cordelia had “returned” or manifested themselves when they broke the gracelet at the end of ChoI. Matthew knows everything, which is impressive, as he’s only spent a mere fraction of the series not inebriated.
Matthew sees himself as a Jem figure, which he is in my humble opinion. Matthew told Cordelia in the games room scene (Christmas Party) that he would “wait for her” to change her mind about him. But moreover, he’s the one who coined the infamous “love is a creeping vine” phrase. That type of slower, more gradual love is very reminiscent of Jem and Tessa (Will and Tessa are more like burning twin flames in love, more like James and Cordelia). It’s also rather interesting that at the end of ChoT, Matthew is leaving London to take himself out of the equation completely, kind of like how Jem simply had to be out of the equation so that Tessa could have both him and Will, just at different times. Matthew thought he could play the long game with Cordelia, in the way Jem was always playing the long game with Tessa.
On the assumption that Matthew knows as much about Herongraystairs as us, Cordelia ending things with him in that “I will never love you the way you deserve to be loved, Matthew” way would have hurt him a lot. Cordelia will never live a lifetime where James will not be in the equation (very different to how Jem and Tessa are), and Matthew knows that.
I don’t know exactly how Matthew knows. I’m absolutely certain he didn’t learn the information he does have from Charlotte or Henry, because that means Charles would have known, and Charles would have absolutely weaponized any sketchy information about Tessa that he could have during the Wessa Witch Hunt episode in ChoT. I don’t believe Magnus said anything to Matthew either. I think Matthew’s just sneaky and observant, because he was the first person to notice many, many important things in TLH.
Anyways, the TLH gang don’t actually know everything that happened in TID. Not saying anything is wrong with that. Just saying that I think they have a certain, slightly whitewashed version of events. That’s fine. We’ll never really know our own parents. But I do think that what the gang knows (or does not know) has shaped the way they see love, trust, and friendship, for better or for worse.
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Gideon, Gabriel, Cecily and Sophie losing a child because of Tatiana
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