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#and i don't mind izuocha there are worse ships
epickiya722 Β· 1 year
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An izuocha shipper said this:
Bkdks are just so transparent and easy to read. The people who rant now and want "justice for iida" are the VERY SAME people who always call him irrelevant to the story, boring, annoying, talk down his friendship with izuku and still havent forgiven him being rude ONCE to izuku in the very beginning of the manga before he and izuku even were friends (ohhhhh but anti bakugou people have to forgive bakugou ABUSING izuku for 12 YEARS, right?) and unlike bakugou didnt need over a century to apologiez! Lets be real, there is maybe just 1% of bkdk shippers who are really mad that it wasnt iida. For the majority thats not what the real problem is. They arent mad, because iida was "swaped" with ochako in the opening, they are mad because it was ochako and NOT bakugou! NOT ONE OF THEM would complain if instead of ochako reaching her hand out for izuku, if it would have been bakugou! Despite that there is no such moment in the manga between them! Its all about their shipping agenda. The anime can be as inaccurate as possible, bkdks dont care as long as bones highlights izukus and bakugous relationship even if its not manga canon.
What do you think about it? I'm interested in your opinion
And I am happy to give my opinion!!
Once more it's just other shippers trying to take a stab at BkDks and for what? Because they can't let it go. They're just bored and can't help but be asses.
For one, a lot of BkDks I have seen NEVER said Iida is boring or that irrelevant in any way. When it comes to other characters, I have seen a lot of BkDks defend them, Iida being one, Uraraka being another.
Hell, ask a BkDk who their favorite female character and most likely you'll get Ochaco Uraraka aka Uravity as an answer
No one is upset that it wasn't Bakugou that held Midoriya's hand in the opening. We're upset because once more Uraraka is just being used to fuel that role that it seems she's being forced into, which she doesn't deserve. She doesn't deserve to be a girl who only seemed to have Deku on her mind. A lot of her actions aren't even influenced by him and it sucks that others don't get that. On top of that, Iida, who a lot of us love, myself included, hated seeing his big moment taken away like that.
That's what it's more about. When that chapter came out that the opening is alluding to, no BkDk shipper I saw get upset. Why?
Because Iida is another good friend of Midoriya’s, he's also a great character on his own and it was nice seeing him getting the spotlight in that moment. It's like with Kirishima, BkDks like Kirishima because he is also a great character. He just happens to be a friend of Bakugou's. Do BkDks hate that? No!
Also BkDks and Bakugou fans aren't asking for anti Bakugous to "forgive" Bakugou. No one cares how they feel about Bakugou.
At most, what is being asked is not being so annoying about it and leave that space alone that does like his character. They're constantly the same ones sending threats, purposely tagging their anti posts wrong, commenting under fics, reblogging posts, etc. Like hate Bakugou, that's your preference and no one is forcing for a change of heart.
But how in the fuck (excuse my language) are antis going to throw the "Bakugou is a bully" card (mind you, who at the end of the day is a fictional teenager) yet do trolling and bullying REAL PEOPLE?
And!
The anime actually CAN'T be inaccurate as possible because all it's doing is ruining what Horikoshi and his team has worked on in the manga. It's why it's highly encouraged to read the manga.
I'm not surprised an IzuOcha shipper said that because guess what the anime is doing? Making IzuOcha seem more important when there's other things they should be highlighting like Iida's importance. If anyone is easy to read it's some of them.
BkDk shippers love BkDk, yeah, but most I have seen are always excited for the other characters, analyzing scenes about other characters and themes, hell, some are even multishippers so they do like other Bakugou and Midoriya ships.
Honestly, BkDks and Bakugou fans are probably the sets of people that seem to actually care about the story as a whole the most.
Ashido got a scene cut? A BkDk shipper will point it out. Shigaraki didn't say that in the manga and it's out of character? Oh, look that Bakugou fan caught it! Uraraka being reduced to nothing more than a girl with a crush despite having other great qualities that should be highlighted on? BkDks and Bakugou fans are ENRAGED.
Overall, to summarize this (it is long and I apologize for that, I ramble) BkDks in general don't care that it should have been Bakugou who held Midoriya's hand, I know I don't. We care about Iida's and Bakugou's significance to one of the darkest times in Midoriya's life. We care that Uraraka is also treated with care as she should be. If the opening wanted to have an IzuOcha moment, they could have! Just why make it the moment that should have gone to the characters that was important in that vital moment? They've been doing original scenes and whatnot forever, why stop now? Why take something away from other characters that are just as important as the protagonist and main girl character?
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epickiya722 Β· 8 months
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What's your biggest complaint about any of your fandoms?
This question felt so random, but not like a bad way! πŸ˜†
Because ooh! I just known there's probably gonna be a long response to this. I apologize beforehand. I tend to get way into what I'm talking about and sometimes I feel I'm too wordy, if that makes sense?
But to answer your question! There are quite a bit of things that I can say I just hate about any of the fandoms, so the first one to come to my mind is complaining (your question has inspired me).
Now, I don't expect everyone to be all jolly and smiling and nice, I myself am not always optimistic about some things. I don't expect everyone to be satisfied with something and I do think everyone has every right to voice their complaint. Be it on a trope they don't like in fanfiction or maybe an episode of their favorite show was garbage.
Go ahead and complain! I encourage to get feelings out, good or bad.
What bothers me is how some people go about when they want to complain about something.
Some people choose inappropriate times to bring up something, driving the attention away from the initial topic. It's especially bad when the "rebuttal" is just someone wanting to debate and be competitive, for no reason.
Example, I'll use Disney, let's say someone posts how they hated how Tiana went through in her story. They don't bring up any of the other Disney Princesses, they just stay on the topic of Tiana. But then some asshole will probably go "but this princess had it worse"!
That right there was just an asshole move to me. If you feel another Princess had it worse, okay... but rant about it on your own post. It was just so unnecessary to bring up some other character's hardships as if to compete. That first person wasn't looking for a debate, just voicing their dislike about something. They didn't undermine the other Princesses. They were just saying how they didn't like what Tiana went through.
What I also hate about this? Tiana is a black character. Some people tend to want to drive away the attention of black characters (and other characters of color) and pull a "it wasn't that bad, stop whining" kind of attitude. Smells like... racism. (I love the music, Tiana is one of my #1s of Disney Princesses, the characters were good, and I did have laughs. But I gotta admit I hated the plot of that movie as well as the title.)
Other than "competitive" people, I hate ones who tend to bombard a post just to be an asshole, just to be a hater, a maybe even a troll wanting to start drama. Let me use BNHA, for this next example.
Another pet peeve of mine is ship wars. I hate ship wars and I will happily post my reasons as to why if anyone wants me to. I bring up ship wars because I'm talking about ships next.
Now, recently I got someone to reply on one of my posts I wrote so long ago about Uraraka and how her "crush" on Izuku isn't her whole personality and I hate it when other people seem to only remember that part of her. Reading my post no where did I bring BakuDeku or any other ship that song IzuOcha.
The reply someone put on there said "I completely agree, yet everyone seems to make BkDk stuff rather than IzuOcha".
I remind you again, my post was about Uraraka's personality and her crush. Not once did I bring up BakuDeku or even tagged with the ship. Also, in that post, I didn't even bring up anything about fan works.
See the problem? That person wanted to drag a ship, start some drama on an unrelated post. First, they played "nice" by agreeing with me. Something some people do. They're be "nice" just to cover up the fact they want to cause trouble and bring discourse.
If that person agreed with me, they could have left it at that. If they wanted to drag BakuDeku, they could have made their own post about it. And what pisses me off about that comment was just the possibility of that person bringing unwanted, unrelated discussions on my post. What if a BakuDeku shipper saw that and decided to go back and forth with that?
Another thing, and this ties in to what else I Jane about people complaining, is what else this person did.
They brought up "people seem to make more content for BakuDeku". Well, duh. They're a popular ship but this is what got me as someone who creates.
They stated that as if no one or little people make IzuOcha content.
*breathes in, breathes out*
I have gotten more IzuOcha art in the past two weeks or so than any BakuDeku art just because I follow the main tags for the characters and the fandom. I don't even follow the ship tag but somehow managed to get fanart if that ship. Active and recent art, mind you.
SO THERE PEOPLE WHO STILL WRITE AND DRAW FOR IZUOCHA.
It drives me nuts when people, and I feel like non-creatives do this, will whine about the lack of creative work and art for a ship and yet be the same people who do things that drives potential shippers who do have the talent away. Makes me want to scream when it's for fairly popular ships.
(Imagine being people who have to write fics and draw art for their rarepairs. *points to me* Right now, my OTP is two female characters who aren't all that popular.)
Instead of complaining on other people's post, how about you REBLOG THE ART?! COMMENT ON THE DAMN FICS?! OR GET TO TYPING AND WRITING YOUR OWN?!
"But I can't write, I can't draw". How do you think the rest of us started?! By trying. None of us were experts in two minutes. Takes practice, trial and error! Can't do that? Then be supportive of those who did try and continued on.
That's really all I have for now. Again, I apologize for the long post. I just tend to ramble more than intended.
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