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#anti sakura stans
leportraitducadavre · 6 months
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You know there’s a weird connection between the fandom’s perceived idea of “good writing” and their personal feelings about specific characters. “I like this character, therefore, they’re well written” and viceversa, “I dislike this character, therefore, they’re badly written” –I’ve seen this in many fandoms and with different characters, but there’s no fandom where this is more noticeable than in the “anti Sakura” portion of the audience.
Before we start, let me be clear on something: I don’t personally like Sakura, I don’t consider myself a fan of hers (or her stans, which are just as annoying as Hinata’s), nor I believe she’s the “heroine” of a story that has no room for a character with such status (I’ve said this before, Naruto is the hero and Sasuke is the antagonist -there’s no necessity nor space for anyone else as Sakura is merely the female character with most panel time, yet she doesn’t move the plot forward and she isn’t relevant to the development of other key characters, as most of them completely ignore her existence).
“Likeability” isn’t a determining factor when it comes to labelling a character “well” or “badly” written, such notion relies on subjective factors which makes it impossible to objectively determine the overall value of a character inside a story.
The most important factor to label a character “goodly written” has more to do with how well they represent their theological narrative. For instance, Danzo -who I genuinely despise, is amazingly written, as he spot on tackles the subject of extreme-nationalistic world view, while Itachi -on the other hand, is sort-of all over the place as he subscribes to Danzo’s ideology and defends it with the same actions, yet Kishimoto desperately wanted to keep him inside the “good guys” group, which ultimately failed and took down anything Itachi might have had going for him (besides other inconsistencies as he’s presented as a genius who made nothing but mistake after mistake). There’s a reason why the antagonists are often the ones with the best characterizations, as they aren’t tied to been “morally correct” or “likeable” in order to reflect their thematic plot, which is why the better characters in Naruto happen to be Uchiha (Sasuke, Obito, Madara).
Sakura has no weight inside the plot, as she is mostly used for support of either Naruto and (to a lesser extent) Sasuke, she stands narratively in the same spectrum as most “good” characters of the show, so she’s thematically not much more relevant than the rest of K-11; yet she’s given more depth than many other characters, as she’s a layered character of whom we see both her strengths and flaws, something we can’t say for other characters, such as Hinata.
In the Hyüga princess™’s case, her personality is mostly one dimensional as she is a thematic piece used to deepen Neji’s character. In case you haven’t noticed, she was constructed in opposition to him: She needs to be shy in order for Naruto to take pity on her when Neji insults her (as Neji is mostly arrogant and outspoken), she’s comically bad because Neji is a prodigy, she’s “a freak” (said by Naruto himself) because Neji isn't, she’s a slave owner because Neji is her slave, and so on –the only thing she has that wasn’t built in order to oppose her cousin was her infatuation with Naruto, something she makes a priority.
Everything we “know” about Hinata was mostly fandom-made, Hinata is shy and soft spoken, why is she considered “nice”? We never saw her worrying about anyone but Naruto: She was glad Kiba lost his match and offered Naruto the ointment to treat his wounds, she diminished her cousin’s trauma and endorsed the oppressive system of her clan, we never see her visiting Kiba after he returned from his mission to bring Sasuke back to Konoha (something we see Ino and Sakura do with their respective teammates, and while Hinata was recovering from Neji’s attack, she had enough strength to train and go see the Chünin Exams final stage, at no point is mentioned she was bed-ridden, as Sasuke had enough time to recover from Gaara’s attack before escaping the village), she thought about Naruto’s warm hand seconds after her cousin died and she was the only character not shown to be glad about Shikamaru being alive as we saw her pouting and thinking about how much she wanted to be beside Naruto. Furthermore, is there any scene in which she appears where she’s not thinking or talking about Naruto or where he is not the main focus?
How come a character designed to be nothing more than support (for Neji and Naruto, as her infatuation with him was built in order to have some oppositional force to the idea of “nobody likes him”, as Naruto has an unrequited love for Sakura during the whole duration of the manga) is “better written” than Sakura, who despite herself being also support she has far more thematically ground to move around (Kishimoto explores through her different themes, even if they aren’t relevant to the plot itself, such as romantical obsession, low self-esteem and the decisions/characteristics that are driven by it, female friendship, and few others).
Honest question: It’s her sad background reason enough to like Hinata? Do you truly need a “compelling” backstory in order to claim a character is “better written” than others? Sakura was bullied because she was shy, Hinata -being the Hyüga heir, wasn’t shown to suffer the same fate at the hands of her classmates. Think about it this way, while Sakura was being bullied and had to be helped by Ino, Hinata was being trained by her father and witnessing Hiashi torture her uncle while Neji cried, helpless! –and just a few years later, she used that exact knowledge to insult him! So she’s not really that nice after all!
What is it with the obsession of both fandoms with the idea of “potential” and how, apparently, they were “robbed of it” (what “potential”? When did Hinata even hint at improving her fighting techniques? She was defeated every single time! When did Sakura, who canonically has a smaller chakra pool than both Sasuke and Naruto, have the possibility of surpass literally Ashura and Indra’s reincarnations? Them having more panel time will mean absolutely nothing as we’ll see them doing the exact same thing we already see them do only twice as much. “Potential” is about exploring a latent ability of them, Hinata has none and Sakura’s chakra flux control was properly exploited!).
There’s more to say about this, but I’m honestly tired at this point…
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mdr-reikas · 1 year
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Shitty pro Sakura memes: a collection
These are memes that popped on my pinterest page every now and then, and they all range from reducing Sakura to “she doesn’t have a flat chest, so she’s a good character”, to “Hinata is a housewife, so she sucks and Sakura doesn’t” (which sounds a lot like internalized misogyny, but ok). Anyway, enjoy!
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Lol I just checked out Retsuden and they gave Sakura Karin's hair style and gave her sensing powers that are just like Karins. No wonder SS love this version of Sakura so much, she is literally not Sakura but Karin in this XD
Sakura can only be salvaged if she essentially poses as a different character!
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"I'm anti sasusaku" :)
"..because Sakura deserved better" :(
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sasunarus-world · 2 years
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"If he really loved him, then why he didn't marry him?"
SS shippers during every argument.
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lunaneko14 · 2 years
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Kishimoto really made this too easy.
So in Chapter 631, the original Team 7 is reunited.
Come Chapter 633, only 2 chapters later, Sakura doesn't fight any more clones while the rest of the Konoha 11 does, then the original Team 7 copy the Sannin's summoning jutsu.
Come Chapter 634, Sakura sits back and heals everyone (and — as you pointed out in one of your posts — in that very scene, Sakura refuses to even hear Katsuyu say Tsunade's name, the fucking ungrateful bitch) while Naruto and Sasuke start fighting the Ten-Tails without her, while using their innate powers (Kurama and the various redundant Uchiha abilities, respectively) instead of the powers they gained from their Sannin teachers. Sakura obviously has no innate powers because she's just a civilian and her family isn't even canon (outright confirmed by Kishi himself in the 2014 Fuji TV Kobayashi interview — the very same interview where he admitted that (1) young Japanese fans, including girls, hate Sakura and told him so, and (2) he has continued on regretting Sakura).
It took only 3 chapters for Sakura to sit back and watch Naruto and Sasuke do all the fighting and be completely irrelevant to the so-called "team", just like in Part I.
Only 3 chapters for the battle to turn into the Naruto-and-Sasuke show for the rest of the manga.
And guess what? Sakura starts crying as she watches them fight without her.
She already knew that she didn't catch up to her teammates after all, long before Chapters 676 and 680. Considering she had to be saved by her teammates yet again because she stupidly turned her back on the large Ten-Tails clones solely to insult Tsunade, this isn't surprising in the slightest.
It really just confirms that the only reason Kishi gave Sakura the Yin Seal was to further make her a third-rate Tsunade-copy (recall that even Jiraiya calls her "Tsunade Junior" in Chapter 245), as well as to demonstrate that Sakura literally had no character development whatsoever between Part I and Part II — she thinks she can achieve the barest minimum and be hot shit; she still wants to show off in front of her precious Sasuke-kun; she still sees Naruto as her rival for Sasuke's attention (which Kishi outright admitted in the 2008/2009/2010 interview); and she's still watching her teammates fight without her and be successful without her.
End scene.
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meowmada · 4 months
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Found this on TikTok and thought immediately of them
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Cred: @.hzomeu
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ilbenmalpensanteus · 4 months
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Twitter brings me happiness on a daily basis ✨
Stupidity at its maximum: ladies and gentlemen… as fans!
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leportraitducadavre · 1 month
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Me, literally in the actual post: In a way, and this is not to diminish some of the writing problems the author has, Ino is a nice representation of how Kishimoto is actually capable of writing a girl with a simple crush on a boy, who still prioritizes friends and comrades above the man she likes. Sakura's behavior, therefore, can't be attributed to Kishimoto not "knowing how to write women", but to him giving Sakura specific characteristics that just happen to be disliked by the fandom. In retaliation, her stans decide to blame such personality traits on his "incapability" to write female characters before giving them the actual relevance they have over Sakura's character.
Them:
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mdr-reikas · 2 months
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I love headcanons, but to be frank it's just so sad to watch Sakura fans trying to make headcanons to make her more interesting.
This was partially prompted by a post I saw recently. OP often references their headcanon that Sakura's parents are abusive, and I can't even be annoyed because it's just miserable. They're doing everything in their power to make Sakura more interesting, and they're still failing.
At this point, I feel sorry that they like Sakura, it must really suck being a Sakura fan.
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Wow, have you seen what's been happening with the Boruto series lately? Retsuden the ss fanfic, eh spinoff, got a manga and animated. It's tanking so bad even with Jump pushing it along side all Boruto news. It's getting made fun of so much the official twitter videos are getting viral mocked by the anime community, Boruto fans hate it so much they are swearing it's not part of the series. Never thought ss would destroy their ship themselves but they did, hopefully this greenlights the divorce.
Any SS/Sakura stan that pushes for canonization of their most deaired content after this would be a masochist. All this crap has just resulted in them being mocked. It really says something that Boruto fans won't even stand by it as part of canon!
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I hear a lot of Sakura fans accuse people who don't like Sakura of being misogynistic and only disliking her because she's a woman. But if any male character also showed the same personality traits as Sakura, did the same shit as her, etc. They suddenly hate that character. Which seems like they only stan Sakura for, idk, being a girlboss or something.
In my opinion, if you don't like a character when their gender is changed, or don't like a character that's exactly the same as your fave except for their gender, you probably don't like that character. If it's creepy for a male character to insist on dating someone, continuingly confess their feelings to them (even after being rejected multiple times) and just straight up harass them, then it's creepy for a woman to do that, too.
I think this is really weird, because while they accuse everyone who doesn't like Sakura of misogyny, it seems that they themselves only like Sakura because she's a woman (or atleast, wouldn't like her if she was a man), which is just really hypocritical in a way.
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naruhinalife555 · 8 months
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Stupid you can trash me all you want but it will never change the fact that you are mentally ill Stay with your filth you ugly human being
I don't like Sakura exactly because of people like her how dare she post my name I have the right to ask what I want if you asked why a lot of people don't like Narusaku this is the answer they are just filth pathological liars not only do they steal Naruhina's stuff from the movie they also create a fake Using the author's characters without this permission is simply a shame, think carefully if you want to support this garbage!
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Kishimoto said only good thing on NaruHina and this makes me happy 😊❤️❤️
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sasunarus-world · 2 years
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Why this Sasuke manga writer assuming all of her manga readers are Sasuke stans?? I could only see Sakutards. What is there for us read in the manga? She totally destroyed his character, Sakustans couldn't even find any fault. It shows only their ship matters to them.
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shiningstars-world · 4 months
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Seriously stop calling sasuke and Naruto brothers!! They're not brothers!! They're not related to each other by blood!!!
I just don't get it, hashirama and madara are also received Ashura and Indra's chakra but no one from ss fandom ever talked about they're brothers!!!😭😭 But when it comes to sns..."they're brothers" just fuck off bro 😭😭
And u know why? Cus neither Madara nor Hashirama comes between sasuke and sakura....but Naruto? He always is between them ... He gets what Sakura wants badly and that's why they call sns brothers despite the fact that they know in their heart, they're not brothers!!!
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I bet they will never call hashirama and madara brothers 😭😭😭
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r3dlif3 · 2 months
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People can hate other characters all they want obviously but when sakura stans (mainly on tiktok) hate on karin of all people its so weird to me because both of their characters are obsessed with sasuke its just that karins reason makes far more sense in the story than sakuras. Karin is in love with Sasuke because he's the first man to show genuine compassion and kindness towards her something she never got beforehand because of how she was used for her chakra bite ability.
Sasuke does use the ability himself but Karin willingly lets him instead of her being forced to do so because of how she cares for him and loves him. But with Sakura I cant think of a genuine reason for why Sakura loves Sasuke except for their minimual amount of time a in team 7, where Sasuke cared for her and naruto as his closest friends and teamates, and how every girl in their class also liked him. At the start of shippuden it's even hinted that she now likes naruto in a romantic sense and not sasuke and she just wants to bring him back; becoming stronger so she's not seen as a burden or a damsel in distress whilst they're focused on retrieving sasuke back to konoha
I love both of these characters but when you claim a character whos story is a metaphor for sa/rape has attempted to sa another character it's so disgusting. Karin acknowledges that Sasuke doesn't love her near the end and is fine with it so i have no idea where this constant hatred for her comes from except for maybe her being a 'love rival' for sakura and even then sasusaku stans got their ideal ending of them being married so thats a really dumb reason.
karin and sakura should of just made out in the last movie to end this argument tbh because it's still going on years later
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