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#as a butch i wanted 2 make a flag that represents the whole community and isnt just representative of femininity!!
hyp3rfixation-h3ll · 9 months
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All Inclusive Transbian Flag! (+ stripe meanings & higher contrast version) I don't normally post flags, but I'm proud of this one PARTICULARLY so :3 here you all go! This is the all-inclusive transbian flag, for when you're trans in ANY way, shape or form and are a lesbian! Anyone can use this except if you fall under my DNI or you're not a transbian (unless you're making a character who IS one) ( this flag has also been dubbed the sunset flag & the hyacinth flag (courtesy of my friend Angel @fawningdolls ! )
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redtail-lol · 10 months
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I made a lesbian flag
I wanted to make my own lesbian flag for fun, and because I have complicated feelings on Emily Gwen. I don't intend to replace their flag but I felt like making one so here it is!
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[Image ID: A 7 stripe flag. The stripe colors, in descending order, are: purple; violet-magenta; pink white; reddish salmon; pale orange; pale golden yellow. The second image is the same flag with the assigned stripe meanings, in descending order: gender nonconformity; queer love of women; femininity; unity; lesbian history and diversity; masculinity and those tied to it; nonbinary lesbians and NBLW/WLNB love. End ID.]
Since Emily's is already called the sunset lesbian flag, perhaps this could be the sunrise lesbian flag or dawn lesbian flag. Yeah I like that. Dawn lesbian flag.
Stripe meaning explanations:
1. Gender nonconformity: lesbian history is rich in gender nonconformity. This obviously includes butches and futches, as well as pronoun nonconforming lesbians, trans lesbians, and nonbinary or genderqueer lesbians, but it also includes all lesbians who simply see loving women as nonconformity to traditional roles, something it was seen as historically before it was more normalized
2. Queer love of women: no matter what lesbian definition you use, a lesbian's love of women is queer. Purple is a color often seen in QLW terms, and as such I chose it to represent our love of women
3. Femininity: whether you're a femme or a trans man lesbian who feels a connection to femininity and through his AGAB, the femininity stripe represents all lesbians who feel a whole or partial connection to femininity, or simply have a deep love for femininity and feminine people
4. Unity: despite the fact that the lesbian label has so many different ways to be experienced, we're all united by the fact that we're lesbians. We are a community, united together.
5. Lesbian history and diversity: the lesbian label has a lot of diversity in it. Some lesbians are women who exclusively love women, and some lesbians are bigender boygirls who have split attractions between loving all genders and loving feminine genders. This diversity is backed by the history of the lesbian community and label. But on top of that, this stripe also pays homage to the significance of lesbians in queer history, especially how lesbians played an important role during the AIDS crisis.
6. Masculinity and those tied to it: This stripe is for the butches, the he/him lesbians, the transmasc and trans man lesbians, the lesboys, and all the other lesbians who feel connected to masculinity.
7. Nonbinary Lesbians and NBLW/WLNB love: Nonbinary lesbians have always existed and continue to exist to this day. They are a beautiful part of the lesbian label, and both nonbinary lesbians and lesbians who love nonbinary people are highlighted with this stripe.
I tried to make a 5 stripe variation but it didn't look as nice. This flag is inclusive of anyone who considers themselves a lesbian. All lesbians belong under this flag, and all lesbians may use it, even if I don't personally align with all your beliefs.
Tagging @queer-love-4-women for visibility, if they choose to reblog it.
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why wont you make boards with the pink and orange lesbian flag? the creators since changed their views and is now an inclus
I honestly don't care that she says she's an inclusionist. I, my wife (who's a lesbian), and many other people have a lot of negative feelings about her because of all the repugnant, aphobic things she said and reblogged in the past. And as a trans person, her talking over trans people who were telling her not to use 'cishet' to refer to aspecs because that's a term trans people created to differentiate between straight trans people and straight cis people really pissed me off. And I'm sorry, but her apology just didn't feel sincere to me and a lot of other people. Like, I didn't feel any better about the situation after reading it.
We also aren't fond of her because she's a still biphobe, panphobe, etc.!! She's against use of the split attraction model outside of the aspec community. She's against mspec lesbians. She doesn't think non-lesbian sapphics can use butch and femme, even though those terms have always belonged to ALL sapphics (as well as trans/nonbinary & GNC people of color), not just lesbians. And she doesn't think all sapphics can reclaim dyke either. She's also a queerphobe.
Like, I'm sorry?? But I don't wanna be associated with her in any way. I refuse to make content with her flag because it makes me personally uncomfortable, and that should be enough of a reason tbh. I also don't want to make my followers (or my wife) uncomfortable, and I don't want to promote her flag if I can avoid it.
Edit: I forgot to mention that several people have spoken out about how they hate the orange and pink lesbian flag because it's just half the old pink lesbian flag, which is a femme/lipstick lesbian flag, and the butch lesbian flag. Which... 1) doesn't represent all lesbians well because not all of them are butch or femme, and 2) is kinda counterproductive because it's literally half of the old flag, which is super problematic and is the whole reason people started making new lesbian flags! Plus, a lot of people feel the flag was never meant to include aspec lesbians because she was an exclusionist when she made it. So many aspec lesbians do not feel comfortable using it. I would rather respect those people's feelings (and my own and my wife's) than use it in my content.
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sky-chau · 5 years
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Lighthouse Lesbian Flag FAQ
What's wrong with the original lipstick lesbian flag?
-racist creator
-too many colors not used in other flags. (Expensive for small creators)
-butches don't like it
What's wrong with the triangles on 2.0?
Gives Jewish folk ptsd symptoms
Why not just use the rainbow flag?
That flag is too broad to count as lesbian representation at events. Its an important flag but, its also important for lesbians to have one of our own.
What's wrong with the other proposed flags?
(Not all are applicable to all flags)
-too complicated (can't be drawn with ruler/compass)
-not Identifyable to outsiders
-triangles (black or pink)
-exclusionist
-not knitter friendly (too many colors that cant be reused for other flags)
-too neon, bad for people who get seizures from bright colors.
Yours is ugly
Actually theres been an issue with monitors and screens butchering the colors. If it looks bad and orange its because your screen is either bad or on weird color settings.
The color theory is solid.
Whys it got symbols?
It has symbols because that makes it Identifyable.
"No other flags have symbols"
I guess Canada, and most of Europe don't exist. Also if were talking about non country flags: the poly flag has a pi symbol.
"People wont make merch of symbols!/its too complicated"
The American flag has symbols and is complex and that has stopped exactly no one from plastering it onto every item ever conceived.
Why do white people get their own fem sign and poc all have to share one sign?
1: white people don't have a fem sign.
2: the white fem sign is for invisible minorities such as the Disabled or Neurodivergent.
"The white fem sign overlaps the brown. That's weird"
Yeah. That's how Photoshop prosesses its layers.
If it bothers you think of it as one holding out an arm to protect the other.
Can I use the flag for edits?
Yes! Have fun!
Do I need to @ you to use the flag?
No! However I do love seeing what y'all do with it so I certainly won't complain if you do!
Can I use this flag for merch?
Yes!!! That's what designed it for! Please do!
Do I have to pay royalties?
No! The flag design is my donation to the community!
Can I change the colors?
You can filter, desaturate whatever, just don't erase the identities the colors represent.
Isint it hard to draw?
The whole thing can be drawn out with nothing but a compass and a ruler!
Can I get rid of the black border around the Trapazoid?
Yes, unless you specifically seek to honor the dead I see no reason why you couldn't get rid of it.
I'm (X) and I'll never identify with the fem signs!
Good for you. Once the flag as a whole is established into the membranes of our culture we can just use the stripes.
Sometimes you gotta make sacrifices to accomplish goals. Until we've made our dent in the culture you can just use the stripes or whatever form of flag you like best.
What about bisexuals?
This is the lesbian flag, bisexuals already have their own.
Why did trans women get a stripe?
Trans women are women and can also be lesbians.
What if I don't want to date someone with a penis?
You dont have to, that's your preference, just be nice about it. Most people don't experience attraction based on genetalia and excluding trans women from the community based on your personal preferance is kinda rude.
What about trans men?
I've heard many sides of this "can trans men be lesbians?" debate and have made the informed decision to shut up and stay the fuck out of it until trans people come up with a more unanimous answer.
Can nonbinary people really be lesbians?
That's complicated and I'm not a great person to ask. But according to nonbinary people; yes they can be lesbians.
Isn't your gf pan?
....yes (its more complicated and I still have to Google the words in her bio every time but panromantic is a pretty good descriptor)
Did she get any say in the flag?
No
Are you even a lesbian?
Yes, I am a lesbian.
Aren't you like 16? Are you really qualified to make a flag for the whole community?
Yes I am 16.
I'm also a freshman in college and do occasionally get paid for art and design work.
I may not the best person for the job but I have yet to see any one more qualified take a shot at it, much less explain in detail why other flags aren't working and make a new one by committee.
"Kill yourself"
Sorry dude I got plans.
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