this is a bit of an ask inspired by another ask (and also ridiculously silly) but what’s the boys’ relationship with penny like in the future?? i loved the little snippet of her at bradley’s wedding and ice trying to figure out if she’s a threat or not (and then maverick coming back from dancing and saying he couldn’t stop gushing over ice….ugh!!!) but do they become good solid friends? I like the idea of them expanding their circle now that they can trust more people…even if one of those people are one of maverick’s exes
additionally: do her and ice ever talk about their shared experiences (not sex, ice would probably keel over and die, but just…having a relationship with mav)? the thought of penny cornering him is ridiculously funny to me. or maybe they never reach that point of comfort 🤷♀️ i just need to know if she ever takes them both sailing and ice gets a chance to laugh at mav on a boat
[also, in all sincerity, I have an unhealthy amount of things to say about this series and I’m a bit sad it’s over, but I love everything you’ve done <3 I could compliment it for days on end and probably never run out of things to say]
ice to Penny at mav’s birthday party sometime over the last five years: Hey! Good to see you again :) thanks for coming …
Penny, apropos of nothing: so.,. weve never talked one-on-one… but. You and i have both been inside Pete Mitchell at some point ?
ice:
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Texting habits per judging function
No one asked, but here are some observations I've made in my personal life.
*Note that this probably differs by age, gender, and culture (for instance, I have been told by several Americans that I use an insane amount of emojis, whereas it's not considered weird at all here in Germany).
FJ:
Generally very good at texting, will respond to absolutely every point you make. If you send them a long voice message, they can be found taking notes while listening so that they will not forget to answer any point you made.
Have a very hard time leaving someone on read and if they do, either something happened and they forgot, or they simply don't like you very much. If they open the message, they answer. If they don't have time to answer you right now, they simply will not open the message yet.
If the text conversation is done (i.e. you wrote something like "bye, see you tomorrow!" that does not require another response), they will still at the very least send you an emoji back for no reason other than letting you know that "Yes! I read your message! I'm not ignoring you! I love you!" (Literally every FJ I have ever known does this. Every single one, including myself.)
They will adapt to your style of texting. If you are the kind of person that likes to send a bunch of heart emojis to friends and the FJ friend is not, they will still pepper in a heart here and there. If you generally don't use emojis, they will use them only occasionally. If you reply in wallpaper long messages, so will they. If you break up your messages into several texts one after the other, so will they.
FPs:
Also generally quite good at texting and can actually appear a lot warmer in writing than in person (there have been several instances where I received really lovely messages from FPs who I used to think hated my guts whenever we met in person).
Prepare for emojis. Seriously.
You can have infinitely long text conversations with them. If you are willing to commit, the conversation between the two of you will never end. With NFPs, the conversations usually end up spiralling into nonsense scenarios, while SFPs keep telling you about their day and keep answering you about your day every day.
TPs:
(my texting experience with TPs is unfortunately very limited, so feel free to fill in my blanks)
Fe is very noticeable in the extroverts, i.e. they tend to go the FJ route described above, but in a more nonchalant and more relaxed way. Like with FJs, the focus of the conversation is on you and their dynamic with you.
The introverts (i.e. my dad, i.e. my only point of reference) are bad at texting and prefer to call, so almost all text conversations go something like this:
TP: "Hi, I tried to call you, but you didn't pick up. I hope everything is alright with you?" You: "Yes, sorry. Everything's good here, how about you, everything okay?" --- end of conversation ---
TJs:
Generally bad at texting. Also don't really like it and see no point in it, so they usually prefer calling or talking in person.
Will appear colder in writing than in person, especially the STJs. Their answers will be straight to the point. No beating around the bush and no needless extension of a conversation in form of jokes/questions/anecdotes for a bonding experience. If they want to tell you something, they will tell you in person.
Have absolutely zero problem leaving people on read and usually don't mean anything by it.
STJs rarely use emojis, NTJs do but not excessively
If their answer requires them to type anything more than two sentences, they will send you a voice message instead. (Literally every single TJ I know does this, except my INTJ brother who is a complete maniac and calls instead.)
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one projection-headcanon i have is that rui is not at all open about his age regression.
he did not grow up with a group of friends around him that would accept him.
he has found away to keep himself company, to hide all of his secrets away in himself.
you'd think that now that he has wondersho he can just spill his secrets and let them flow, not afraid of rejection.
its not that easy
growing up lonely then having friends doesn't mean a complete attitude change
even though he has friends
though he has people who care about him
he is still horribly lonely
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That thing you say about Lex being more evil and less redemable when his past isnt linked to Clark Is so fucking true. Like I kinda like his whole past background where he Is a selfmade man that grew up poor in Metrópolis because I am a sucker for horrible villains with tragic background, but the way that those Clarkless past pretty much turn him into a depraved monster creeps me out way too much... He really needs Clark to not get too deranged.
YEAH!!! pre-crisis lex is a bit of an outlier bc he has a past with clark but the clark kent of it all is deemphasized in favor of superman, though on the flip side, you could say that superboy/superman manages to fill that same narrative role pre-crisis since most pre-crisis writers (notably elliot s! maggin) tended to view clark kent as the mask, whereas a lot of modern writers tend to take the opposite approach.
from a doyleist perspective i think it’s mostly a case of the byrne era characterization and backstory being stripped away in tandem, but i personally like to think that having clark around during his formative years really did make all the difference for him, and i wish smallville wasn’t the only thing that acknowledged that clark actually meant something to him, once upon a time.
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Ranting
el doesn't know what gay means
If Mike came out to her she would not understand, she would probably be like, "gay...? What is gay...?" And she wouldn't understand why mike wouldn't want to tell her, because she doesn't understand what homophobia is or why it would affect someone. The only exposure she has had to homophobia is the bullies in s1, but she didn't understand what those words meant, all she knew is that they made mike upset. If Mike or will had a coming out scene to her, she would be very confused of why it was a big deal, after she found out what it meant. I think she would be upset about Mike lying to her, because she doesn't have the context to understand why he would need to lie. I personally think she has already picked up on that something is going on between Mike and will, she wouldn't understand why this would need to be kept a secret. From her perspective they are just lying with no good reason to do so, she might even accidentally out ones of them. She would not have the context to instantly accept, she is going to be upset about Mike lying, and maybe will too. But once it is explained to her why, and she sees homophobia again, this time through a new lens and understanding, she will be accepting and probably apologize for being upset, now that she understands.(this is if she doesn't accidentally out ones of them, which I don't think the duffel bagels would do)
Basically I'm trying to say, El wouldn't be all instant ally.
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