#catherine brandon

[bethanydelleman]

Could you rank the Austen main couples from the least to the most likely to have sex before they are married?

Least to Most Likely:

Edmund Bertram & Fanny Price: It is all very proper. They probably have sex with their clothes on after the wedding.

Fitzwilliam Darcy & Elizabeth Bennet: She would have been down, he wasn't. He later congratulates himself on his excellent self control.

Edward Ferrars & Elinor Dashwood: There were definitely smooches, but after that roller coaster of a courtship, Elinor wants things legal and in writing. Also, just because something feels good doesn't make it right, MARIANNE.

Henry Tilney & Catherine Morland: he is a gentleman, but it was really the long distance relationship that prevented them from doing anything. Was there some racy content in those letters? I'd love to know...

George Knightley & Emma Woodhouse: Donwell is right there. You can walk right over...

Charles Bingley & Jane Bennet: "Bingley, who wanted to be alone with Jane" I see your intentions, sir. I see them!

Colonel Brandon & Marianne Dashwood: "I have feelings," said she, "let's indulge them." If something feels good, that makes it moral, right? Romanticism says yes, ELINOR.

Captain Frederick Wentworth & Anne Elliot: Do not care about anything except getting married as quickly as possible. Banns take far too long when you've been waiting 8 years and Napoleon just escaped from Elba. Let's get this DONE.

BONUS:

Lucy Steele & Robert/Edward Ferrars: No way in hell with either of them. She's too cunning to give up her best card before she has the man secure.

Frank Chuchill & Jane Fairfax: Not in a million years, no matter how many times Frank makes puppy eyes.

Robert Martin & Harriet Smith: Abbey Mill farm is like, right there. You can walk over. It has a hay barn...

Related: First Kiss for each Austen Heroine Couple

Also, marriage and birth records show that premarital sex was pretty common. Or else the Regency era had magically good premature baby care 😉

#jane austen #question response #anticipating their vows #austen main couples #am I going to tag them all or be lazy? #edmund bertram #fanny price #elizabeth bennet #fitzwilliam darcy #jane bennet #charles bingley #emma woodhouse #george knightley #captain wentworth #anne elliot #elinor dashwood #marianne dashwood #colonel brandon #henry tilney #catherine morland

[boleynecklace]

#i’d love to see the results hmm #tudor history #the tudors #the war of the roses #elizabeth woodville #edward iv #richard iii #anne neville #george plantagenet #isabel neville #henry vii #elizabeth of york #arthur tudor #catherine of aragon #henry viii #anne boleyn #elizabeth tudor #robert dudley #charles brandon #mary rose tudor #philip ii of spain #mary tudor #historical couples #polls #english history

[delsheart]

i love reading jane austen on rainy or cloudy days while drinking something warm. it makes me feel at home and completely immerse in the story ☆

#jane austen #henry tilney #catherine morland #elinor dashwood #marianne dashwood #colonel brandon #sense and sensibility 1995 #northanger abbey #pride and prejudice #persuasion jane austen

[rahabs]

The Tudors ran so Wulf Hall could shuffle awkwardly around reiterating the same tired old Tudor stereotypes while claiming to be something new.

#It's so funny but as a historian I will genuinely defend 'The Tudors' to the death even with all its problems #Because it did was so few other Tudor shows/movies/media have ever done #And that is: it focused on things BEYOND just Henry and his wives. #Yes Henry was the focal point which makes SENSE but that's just it: #HENRY was the focal point. Most other Tudor media pieces have one of the wives (usually Catherine/Anne) as the focus and doesn't delve muc #Into the history or what was happening in England beyond the King's Great Matter. #The Tudors went ALL out. Yes they didn't get everything right but the fact that they tried and spotlighted so many other #Historical characters and events? The Pilgrimage of Grace? Actually LOOKING at the religious issues even if they weren't always accurate? #(Like with Aske for example. BUT AT LEAST THEY INCLUDED ROBERT ASKE like good lord it's like other Tudor media forgets everything else) #Focusing on Cromwell but also the Seymour brothers? The politics behind Henry? Even Brandon as annoying as his storylines could get. #Even smaller characters like Tallis and Gardiner and other Reformation and Counter-Reformation figures. #The fact that they featured the Reformation and Counter-Reformation AT ALL let alone tried to dive into the complexities of England's #religious crises. The burning of Anne Askew even? People having to navigate England's increasingly unstable religious situations? #The series hit its peak after the CoA/Anne stuff was over imho. Yes Cranmer and Norfolk annoyingly vanished despite being major figures in #the R/CR and they combined Mary and Margaret but god the Tudors did SO MUCH that NO OTHER PIECE OF TUDORS MEDIA has EVER DONE. #It looked BEYOND Henry BEYOND his wives and tried to paint a comprehensive pictur of a deeply troubling and divisive time in English histor #And it did so without demonising one side and it was just so good for so many reasons that I forgive its errors because damn did they TRY. #Tried in a way no one else ever has (no Wulf Hall did not I'm sorry) #(Wulf Hall was just the same old stereotypes rehashed and branded as something 'original' because it was from Cromwell's POV but again. #Same old stereotypes. Nothing actually original about anything else.) #The Tudors is so underrated for what it tried to do and what it achieved and I am reaching the tag limit but UGH god. Amazing. #Not even getting into how wonderful they were with Mary Tudor/Mary I herself and showing figures around her #Because that would be another tag essay considering the subject of my thesis. #Flawed but wonderful. #text #chey.txt

[anne-the-quene]

#poll #catherine of valois #margaret beaufort #katherine woodville #elizabeth of york #catherine of aragon #anne boleyn #anna of cleves #katheryn howard #kathryn parr #charles brandon

[tales-from-the-abbey]

Your favorite Northanger Abbey or S&S OT3 isn't there ? Tell me and I'll make a poll with them later

#jane austen #northanger abbey #sense and sensibility #19th century literature #catherine morland #henry tilney #john thorpe #isabella thorpe #eleanor tilney #elinor dashwood #marianne dashwood #colonel brandon #poll

[realcatalina]

Hope this works : https://i.pinimg.com/564x/40/e6/eb/40e6eb52d24dee59e597ca00f46bcddd.jpg

Original ask:People keep saying this is Frances Brandon, but looking at the fashion and the features of the sitter, I feel it's Katherine of Aragon instead. What are your thoughts?

(we didnt have the photo originally, but now i can finally answer this).

-My first observation regarding this painting is that it cannot be Francis Brandon, because she was born in 1517. This is 1500s or 1510s fashion of Netherlands. No way she could be depicted in fashion which is from before she was even born!

On wikipedia it is labelled Portrait of Agniete van den Rijne, atributed to Joos van Cleve, located in Rijksmuseum Twenthe in Enschede, in Netherlands. And as being painted in 1st half of 16th century.

On webpage of the museum, it is labelled as Unknown woman in c.1515. I suspect it could be bit earlier(split gown, large hanging chains)-my guess would be late 1500s, max early 1510s. But my chronology of netherlandish fashion was based upon court fashion. And neckline this low is consistent with some parts of Habsburg Netherlands, but not the court. So I could be bit off. But either way-1500s or 1510s imo. Not Francis Brandon. She wasnt even born when this was in fashion.

As for Catherine of Aragon.

Not that she couldnt wear netherlandish fashion(Sittow's portrait)-but a)when she did wear it, it was same fashion as in court.

b) what cut photos deliberately left out, is that this painting has its original frame...which includes coat of arms.

And experts believe this coat of arms to be original.

They havent been able to identify it nor of the man matching the woman. But clearly not Catherine's coat of arms.

Also the focus here is on grapes-its fruit, its leaves and vines.

It is symbol of fertility and prosperity, as well as having several more meanings in christianity, but as far as i know never asociated with Catherine of Aragon specifically. And there is literally nothing to suggest it is her.

I agree that there is resemblence, but there is issue. The artist was skilled. So why upon closer inspection the nose looks so differently than hers?

Catherine's nose tip seemed to be pointing more up and it was not as large. With some people-for example Margaret of Austria, size of nose changes as they age(due to health issues). However Catherine even in mid 1520s, still has narrow nose with tip basically same as in her youth.

Angle might play part a bit...but imo it is simply different nose.

The resemblence alone cannot drive identification. Not only do we not have single major clue pointing towards Catherine, we have major clue against her(coat of arms). Also Henry was likely painted by the artist when he met Francis I at Calais-with Anne Boleyn. The artist was asociated a lot with Francis, but never proven to travel to England or to take comissions from English royal court...aside that one meeting.

I am sorry, it is not Catherine of Aragon.

I am as upset as you guys that we don't have any surviving portrait of her from 1510s, and that many portraits we only know from not so great copies.

To find more lost originals, looking through art of artists which painted relatives of the person is indeed very good strategy. It pays off in many cases. Unfortuntely not in case of Joos van Cleve.

But it might be good idea to look up painters employed by Charles V and by Francis I in 1520-because Catherine met both that year.

Henry and Charles even had joined portraits made back then.

So there is indeed potential that some portrait of Catherine was created and it might have went with visitor. And it could have been another joined portrait because Charles didnt visit alone but with Germaine of Foix.

Problem is, the most likely thing for Catherine to wear in any portrait as Queen of England is gable hood- headwear unique to England. For her portraits to not be noticed, they would either have to be overpainted/altered, misidentified, misdated or even all three.

Another option is that upon meeting Charles that she wore spanish fashion. If she got painted in that, she wouldnt be that likely to be recognized.

Or maybe we need to broaden our idea of what Catherine wore.

So my dears, the hunt is still on.

#historical portraits #tudor history #not francis brandon #not catherine of aragon either

[fideidefenswhore]

soulmate-ism ❤️

#am i joking? am i serious? who could say... #my qualm is not so much the style of acting or even the actors changed but seemingly the groundwork of this character #being disregarded and set aside #im fully a hater so believing this scene is cute means more coming from me. #i liked both that they depicted her as odd and her oddness chiming with his own oddness #bcus then by s3 she is just...serene and genteel. nothing else #i think it was interesting that she doesn't mention coa in s2 either and couldn't help wondering if this was an intentional choice? #catherine was #for one something that seemed to bond the group she became part of #(which is something they seem to omit it is just...the seymour faction. of seymours. and charles brandon. no one else) #but for another technically would have been an obstacle to her advancement. so if the omission was purposeful that (could) have been #masterful... they of course ruin that by s3 again lol #im assuming what they were going for was jane modeling her queenship upon catherine's in s1 by having her suddenly #express such admiration for her but this presents its own host of ...not plot holes persay but character gaps? i suppose? #(this has been theorized and that she succeeded is doubtful. it's not like henry's response to the may day riots intercession was similar) #namely: how does this square with jane's seeming devotion and idealization of henry in s3? she thinks the world of him and constantly #seems to be let down by him and expect better of him...but were she such a devotee of his first wife. whom he banished. then why? #another thorny issue they refused to grapple with by just eliding s3: she might have thought the world of him because* #of what was done to anne. in the vein of reginald pole #ridding himself of the 'heretical evil'. they sort of try to do this by a transference case; suddenly jane hates cromwell even tho he was #instrumental in her rise...? #they didn't have the confidence to explore that ; however. even though it would've been better continuity #bcus in s2 jane seems happiest in diminishing her rival. #and they didn't really give any of the complexity they did to AB...this sort of brash confidence and steady and public reviling of her riva #followed by these scenes of anxiety and fear ; like with her sister overlooking coronation sketches #instead she just becomes...serenely sad. somehow. surprised that henry has a mistress. #(i mean. cute being a relative term. jane is cute. henry is baring his teeth and doesn't seem to display much in the way of ...warmth? #could have actually been something really interesting done here...idk how accurate. but interesting #'as lancelot worshipped guinevere' is a fantasy...and not one that ends in marriage between the two #just as 'maitresse en titre' (i mean...it was a title for a reason...but) was a fantasy outside marriage

[redrosewhiterose]

My BE hot take is that Edward and Mary should have been the protagonists this season, with the main plot focusing on how their love for each other entered in conflict with their religion beliefs until these differences were irreconcilable, all leading to Edward excluding her and Elizabeth of the succesion and naming Jane his heir instead. Elizabeth should've been a supporting character, with the Seymour affair lasting only two, three episodes top (and no gross graphic scenes), and then she would lay low for the rest of the season but she still would be there in the background, watching and learning from everyone else's mistakes. Also I would show her bonding with Anna of Cleves because unlike the show runners I do not think that this show has that many characters for a short cameo of her to be "confusing". Oh and her plot with Robert can be almost exactly the same, because I really like the angst they're delivering. Then in season 2 Elizabeth would become a main character, with the main plot mirroring the plot of season 1 (i.e. two sisters who loved each other but their differences also ended up being irreconcilable), except that this time is Mary the one that is the the place that Edward was in season 1, and unlike their brother, Mary does name Elizabeth her heir because she understood that it was the best for England, putting the stability of the country before her personal beliefs, and thus completing her character arc.

#the themes would basically be Familial love vs Personal beliefs vs Duty #also in my version of BE Anne Stanhope and Frances Brandon also exist and Catherine Parr is actually loving towards Elizabeth #becoming elizabeth

[mametupa]

He was such a lady-killer even as a youngster!

#Spanish Princess #spanishprincessedit #Princess Catherine of Aragon #Prince Henry #Queen Catherine of Aragon #King Herny VIII #Charles Brandon #SPS1E1 #Duke of Suffork

[bethanydelleman]

First Kiss for each Austen Heroine Couple

Fitzwilliam Darcy & Elizabeth Bennet: after they were married, when no one else was around. Mr. Darcy does not do PDA.

Charles Bingley & Jane Bennet: they were making out behind a bush while Lady Catherine was scolding Elizabeth. Charles was just hoping for a single kiss, he modestly hadn't expected Jane to be so excited about it.

Anne Elliot & Captain Frederick Wentworth: there was smooching at 19 and 23, you cannot convince me there was not. At 27 and 31, they really thought they would be more mature, but honestly if they hadn't been married as rapidly as possible there would have been serious canoodling.

Catherine Morland & Henry Tilney: Catherine ran after Henry when he was about to leave Fullerton and very dramatically kissed him before he mounted his horse. Then they had to wait about six months to do it again. It was torment.

Emma Woodhouse & George Knightley: They kissed in the garden around Hartfield after getting engaged. No one knows who initiated it, but on reflection it was probably Emma.

Elinor Dashwood & Edward Ferrars: Marianne was trying to leave them in corners and behind trees the whole time Edward was staying at the cottage, which they found very amusing and took advantage of fully. The first kiss was out of doors, after their engagement.

Marianne Dashwood & Colonel Brandon: You know that Colonel Brandon was attempting to be a perfect gentleman and Marianne was trying to to be anything but a modest lady.

Fanny Price & Edmund Bertram: Despite ample opportunity and the feelings of the lady, not until they were in the bedroom after the wedding.

Bonus! Jane Fairfax & Frank Churchill: There was pre-engagement making out and Jane felt so bad about it, but couldn't help herself.

Bonus! Bonus! I would bet my bonnet that Jane Bennet was born not quite nine respectable months after her parent's marriage.

#mr. darcy #elizabeth bennet #catherine morland #henry tilney #elinor dashwood #edward ferrars #emma woodhouse #mr. knightley #emma #northanger abbey #mansfield park #pride and prejudice #sense and sensibility #persuasion #captain wentworth #anne elliot #marianne dashwood #colonel brandon #charles bingley #jane bennet #fanny price #edmund bertram #first kiss #for valentines day maybe? #I think I did all the tags

[curiousb]

The Hartfield House Yearbook: Volume VII

Willoughby and Margaret were fully intending to take it slow, but despite their best efforts, their feelings just end up running away with them anyway.

With finals looming, everyone is... surfing the Web. Except for Robert, who is being very diligent, good lad!

Once the exams are finally over, Willoughby doesn’t waste another moment, to make Margaret his own forever.

This engagement thing is catching, and Selina decides to give it a whirl too.

Simon, however, is not interested in following the trend. And it was such a sparkly ring too!

The graduation party is a family affair. Now that Gabriel has discovered flirting, he’s keen to practise it at every opportunity, while Benjamin’s impromptu demonstration of his artistic prowess garners some admirers.

Catherine’s parents bizarrely spend the entire party in a clinch outside the front door.

But that’s OK, as she is currently engrossed in long-term boyfriend Miles.

Who thought it was a good idea to invite both Benjamin and Clara to the party?! (That would be me...)

One last photo, for the album.

And then it’s time for everyone to re-join the real world. For some - such as Willoughby and Margaret - their future path is already marked out, but for Catherine, with her relationship with Miles still on an uncertain footing, the shape of her life is yet to be determined.

#sims 2 #gameplay #merybury #de bourgh university #willoughby smith #margaret brandon #robert dashwood #catherine steele #selina elton #simon wickham #gabriel smith #benjamin bingley #william collins #lucy steele #miles wickham #clara dashwood #hartfield house

[athenepromachos]

Welcome to the Tudor Court 👑🌹

#henry viii #catherine of aragon #anne boleyn #jane seymour #anne of cleves #catherine howard #catherine parr #lady jane grey #elizabeth I #brenda price dolls #royal heritage collection #royal doulton #sarah bryson #sarah beth watkins #sarah morris #tony riches #philippa gregory #claire ridgway #charles brandon #mary tudor #duke of suffolk #duchess of suffolk #mary queen of france #jean plaidy #tudor court #the tudors #tudors #sixteenth century

[gladoswantscake]

Throwback to when I discovered FG’s level editor 3 years ago (part 8)

#i did not realize how many i've made #soma #simon jarrett #david munshi #terry akers #catherine chun #robot girl #proxy #flesher #johan ross #brandon wan

[drjohanross]

in order: Strasky, Catherine, Munshi, Imogen, Simon, Ross, Akers, Strohmeier, Brandon

#soma game #brandon wan #peter strasky #simon jarrett #john strohmeier #johan ross #catherine chun #terry akers #david munshi

[twenty-words-or-less]

Replicant

Summary: Jake Riley (Michael Rooker) has tried and failed for years to catch serial killer Edward "The Torch" Garrotte (Jean-Claude Van Damme). His last option now is to team up with a clone of Garrotte who has a psychic link with and the same memories as the original.

Solid sci-fi actioner that takes cues from Blade Runner, but is ultimately Poor Things pour homme.

Rating: 2.25/5

Photo credit: PEAKD

#replicant #replicant 2001 #2001 #ringo lam #science fiction #action #Jean-Claude Van Damme #Michael Rooker #Catherine Dent #Brandon James Olson #2.25 #film reviews #film review #twenty-words-or-less #twol