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hongism · 3 years

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Hyello, okay so. I don't have the emotional energy to take in and discuss everything in that chapter so imma just gush over the info cause I am a ✨whore✨ for world building.

So obviously MOC SPOILER

hi bestie HELLO guess WHO!!! finally ANSWering!!! altho im gonna answer separately and space everything out all Neatly bc im all over the place so strap IN we’re going on an moc RIDE!

THERE'S A WHOLE SIREN COMMUNITY?! AND YN AND IT MUST BE WOOYOUNG WERE FRIENDS? SIRENS HAVE A FULLY FLEDGE COMMUNITY WITH PRIESTS AND SCHOOLS AND MULTUOLE CITIES TO SOME EXTEND??? MAYBE EVEN AN ENTIRE PLANET WITH SIRENS MAYBE THEIR ORIGIN PLANET? HOW MANY TYPES OF SIRENS ARE THERE AND IN THE COMMUNITY HOW DTRICT ARE THE DIFFERENT ROLES?!?! ALSO DOES THE SIREN COMMUNITY ALLOW FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF SIRENS TO BE TOGETHER? OBVIOUSLY THEY SHOULD BUT ARE THE CHILDREN THEN HYBRID TYPES, LIKE WHEN WE GET BLUED DARK SKIND BABIES OR CAN A SKREN ONLY BE ONE TYPE. WHAT POWERS DO SIRENS HAVE AND DOES THE POWERS REFLECT THEIR PERSONALITY AND DO THE DIFFERENT TYOES LEAN TOWARDS CERTAIN JOBS. LIKE WE JUST LESRNED THE OCEAN GOTTA BE PRIESTS BUT MOON ISNT STRICT WHAT ABOUT FIRE. AND IS YN INSTIC TO PULL OUT A HEART CAUDE HER PERSONALITT, TRSUMA OR IS IT RELATED TO THE MOON. ALSO CAUSE ITS A RED MOON WHICH IS COMMONLY A BLOOD MOON, IS YN THEN A SPECIAL MOON SIREN AND THATS WHY HER POWERS ARE STEONGER OR HER INSTICTS TO USE THEM ARE STORNGER BUT THEN THE MILITARY FUCKED HER UP. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

now this is the thing im biting my tongue on SO HARD bc it’s my favorite aspect of the world building and the universe and everything involved in it bUTIHDFKJG THERS SO MUCH I WANNA SAYYYYYYYYYY in short that one dream sequence holds more hints and information than ANYTHING from previous chapters, i think that it’s probably the MOST IMPORTANT dream to date. while we’ve seen some crazy ones in the past, this one is both the biggest hint and the biggest window into y/n’s past by FARRRR. even tho that whole scene was dialogue i think there’s so much to pick up on from it and so much to see and learn from it and it’s one of my faves bc there’s so much to unpack from it !!

Like yes the story and the development is freaking ✨yes✨ I love it. Genuinely think moc should be released as books. But I just cannot deal with the emotions rn.

But also now all I'm going to be thinking about how many sirens are actually out there. And if yn knew her parents and wasn't just an orphan the military found in the streets... How the fuck did she end up in the military grasps. What happened to her parents what happened to the community, is it still out there? Guess I gotta go back and reread the galaxies and the backstories, obviously I must have missed or have forgotten something. Ugh how the puzzle pieces are puzzling (or something). Moc is a drug and I'm not going sober anytime soon

(obviously you don't have to respond to my questions, this is more just an insight into the spiralling of theories going on in my mind)

releasing moc as books? a dream and a half, i can say that much slkjdlgkjlkf but back to the sirens... how many are out there? we heard early on that hongjoong was looking for ‘the last five’ but then seonghwa debunked that and said that was a mistranslation over time that was passed down and such, but beyond that, we don’t really know much about sirens as a whole? there are some hints in the galaxies and planet descriptions but if that dream sequence is a puzzle, i would say we have a handful of pieces that can be put into place based on what we’ve learned so far!!!!

Okay I lied, I am ready to unpack a little of the ✨emotions✨

When hongjoong explained that hwa tried to stop San only for San to detain him and in a sense make him watch the scene unfold. And then realising hwa had to go through that again, only being even more helpless. I don't doubt hwa loves San, but to see the events happening again, with someone he clearly loves as much as he does yn even if he also loves joong, and to see the desperation and determination must have been just. Horrible. Just absolutely soul breaking horrible. I can imagine him vowing to himself after San that he would never let something like that happen again. That of any of the crew got out of control like that, that he would fight harder to stop them. That he would would do absolutely everything in his power to stop it. And then being helpless as he watched yn do it. Just pure heart wrenching pain. And it must have been beyond terrifying to see someone you love ready and determined to kill themselves partly from rage and partly from desperation. With the backstory, that scene becomes almost as cruel as the warehouse scene with San. The only redeeming quality is no one needing life saving surgery in a time crunch, otherwise they would be the same level of ✨never again✨

honestly i think the two crew members i torture the most are san and hwa bc i just keep putting them thru all this shit and hurting them so much but really this was the defining point of why seonghwa was so afraid. before we kinda just knew he was afraid of yn and hongjoong was mad about it. in this revelation we get to see the source of the trauma and how it was amplified by it being someone he loves as dearly as he loves yn. and for sure when first reading that scene of yn and jisung in the brig, it’s meant to evoke a sense of anger and rage like yn is so angry to a point where she would do this sort of thing, but my hope with that scene was also to show that desperation. that when looking back at it after having already seen the rage and the aftermath, that reading it again shows how desperate and hopeless she was in that moment. which is exactly the same emotion that was evoked back in that warehouse scene with san, except it was relayed differently because the warehouse was a more immediate sense of desperation. this brig scene was meant to emulate that but in a slow burn kinda way where the veil of realization is pulled off after the fact and not in the moment!!!

Just to make sure you don't misunderstand. Those asks were compliments. You are an absolutely incredible writer. And the fact that you aren’t afraid of hurting your characters *cough cough* SHOOTING SAN?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!!!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? *CLEARS THROAT AGRESSIVELY* just makes the story much better. No one gets plot armour, making it more realistic (?) and really draws in the writer and sorta imitates the fear and desperation the characters feel

PLS don’t worry, i live for every moment and i live for these open and raw and genuine conversations i didn’t take any as an insult i PROMISE!! i think part of the nature of this whole trope of space pirates and criminals is that hter is no guarantee of safety! i don’t wanna have to cut corners to make sure everyone stays unharmed and undamaged throughout the story when the nature of the world i’ve built thus far is a wildly dangerous one!!! i always say that i try to be as realistic as i can, all things considered, and i think that’s the biggest thing that adds to the ‘realism’ in my mind so im so happy to hear that you see it and appreciate it and enjoy it!!!

OHOHOHOHOHOH ALSO

YN GRIPPING SOMEONES HEART??? YOU WRITE THAT SO FUCKING WELL. LIKE ENIGUH DETAILS THAT WE KNOW WHATS GOING ON, BUT ALSO NOT SO MANY DETAILS SO IT GETS DETACHWD FROM THE STORY. LIKE THE LACK OF CLEAR SUPER MANY DETAILS REALLY MADE IT THAT *YOU ARE EXPERIENCING THIS, NOT JUST READING IT* LIKE IT MADE IT WAY MORE EMOTIONAL AND OERSONAL AND THE READER REALLY GOT IMMERSED IN THE MOST HORRIBLE WAY THAT KUST MADE IT ALL RHE MORE BETTER. ALSO JOONG AFRAID????? JOONG REALISING HE GOT A FULLY FLEDGED HEART RIPPER SIREN WHO CANT CONTROL HER BODY TO MOVE THROUGH A HARMLESS DOOR BUT CAN DEFINITELY KILL IN A HEARTBEAT (OR TWO 👀) ALSO THE CONTRAST OF REMOVING RHE BLOOD COLOURED WHITE OLASTIC AND HAVING A CLEAN HAND UNDERNWATH. THE SYMBOL OF IT ALSO BEKNG A TRASH CLEANERS SUIT. LIKE SHE WASN'T SUPPOSED TO ACTUALLY USE THE TRASH PROTECTION DUIT FOR ITS INTENDED PURPOSE. ALSO THE OART WHERE SHE SAYS SHES FINE EVEN TJO SHE ISNT. AT FIRST I READ IT AS HER TELLING HERSELF TO LIE BUT THEN I REALISED ITS HER ADMITTING SHE VERY MUCH ISNT. AND SAN NOT KNOWING???? AND KISSING HER HAND AND UGH AND SEONGHWA KNOWING. I BET HE'S LOWKEY GETTING MORE AND MORE AFRAID OF HER. LIKE YN IS READY TO KILL HERSELF AND ANYONE AROUND HER TO KEEP SAN SAFE. AND SHE INSTICTUALLY GOES FOR THE MODT AGRESSIVE METHOD POSSIBLE. IHHHHHHHHHHHHH I FUCKING LOVE YOU AND YOUR WONDERFUL WTITING AND YOUR TWISTED MIND THAT CAN CREATE ALL THESE FUCKING SCENES THAT GOT ME THUNKING AND FEELING ✨EMOTIONS✨

truly one of the HIGHLIGHTS of the chapter simply bc of how shocking and sudden it is!! for me, that was one of the easiest scenes to write in the chapter, oddly enough? it was something that when it came time to write it, i knew how i wanted it to be and was able to just sit down and write it out the way its written in the final draft of the chapter. i really love playing with those aspects of fiction and storytelling. tangible to a point, without spelling it out. i think it’s obvious that i really love delayed realization in writing, but i really like playing with how the brain processes information and for me personally, i don’t pick up on things right away! i can realize them in a snap or it can take me a bit to go ‘oh god that’s what happened’, and i like playing with that in y/n’s character a LOT.

and in that same vein of thought, there are some layers to that scene as well when compared to the door scene. in the door scene we saw hongjoong clearly tell y/n ‘you need to do this to save san’ yet she wasn’t able to do it despite trying and believing hongjoong. then in the heart scene we saw y/n clearly tell herself ‘you need to do this to save san’ and she did it then. so there’s a lot at play in that parallel alone too. and with that internal monologue she has of im fine vs not fine, then san kissing the hand that touched a literal real actual beating heart for me that was a sort of self indulgent scene and i was really worried about it coming across as too cheesy or something like that, but that is something that’s gonna impact y/n as a character and her relationship with san when they have the conversation of ‘oh hey i put my hand through a man’s chest for you’

i think part of why this chapter was so difficult to construct and write as a whole definitely is because of all the undertones and nuances throughout, and in a lot of ways it’s so so much to even think about that it’s almost too much packed into one chapter alone, but even if you don’t pick up on all the nuances throughout, i’m hoping to revisit them and bring them back around in that delayed realization style again bc that’s one of my favorite things to do ofc :3

#21y redeemed fool #mists of celeste #moc: spoilers #caly answers #sorry i wrote you a whole essay in response oh my god?!??#T_T

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another-stupid-writing-blog · 5 years

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Powers, Magic Systems, and Some Other Elements - How Do They Work and What Are The Rules?

ANOTHER LONG POST!

(This ties into that multi-part project I was talking about earlier)

Sympathetic Magic

The basic idea: Life imitates art. Create a piece of art or entertainment and wha-BAM! It just might become real.

The specifics: I was planning to keep these rather vague, as I mainly planned it to be used by the villain in Part II, despite it being a neutral background religion in most of the story. What is known is that it doesn’t work 100% of the time, much like any religious magic, and can happen completely on accident, as was the case with the dev. In-universe, the Church of Sympathetic Magic believes that in order for it to work, a sacrifice back into the elements is required (ranging from a bowl of milk left on the porch to a human body buried without embalming), and the more outlandish the request, the greater the sacrifice needed. Art accidentally granted reality can have stuff added to it, but additional sacrifices are needed for any of the add-ons to become real. It is unclear whether Bard songs count as sympathetic magic or plusibo effect.

Magic Stones/Metals

Spirit Crystal- Found deep underground, these clear-to-azure crystals constantly sap energy out of whatever’s touching it, and manipulate the energy as directed. These directions can be out loud, internal, or digital, but a spellcaster still has to be touching it, even if the energy is coming from something else. A spellcaster can only manipulate energy within sight range, and their instructions only work if they can understand and visualize the physics behind it- or how nature or technology could do something similar. Energy spent without direction is lost to heat. Crystals are commonly used in weaponry to deal both puncturing and burning damage while draining mana, all in one move. They’re also used by hospitals to immediately cauterize wounds and by gyms as a way to burn fat. Scientists can’t find living cells anywhere on them, but philosophers endlessly debate on whether or not they are alive.

Creation Stone- These green, funky-shaped, rounded-edged rocks are found on the same layers as Spirit Crystals. They constantly sap energy to convert into matter. They also need directions, and one essentially needs to know how to sculpt an item out of its base elements. (More specifically, one needs to know the elements being summoned, and a detailed anatomy/geometry/biology of what they’re summoning.) This material must rise out of the stone itself. Most of those who summon living creatures actually cheat- The body already knows how to build itself, and the soul contains a copy of this information. Ergo one only needs a soul or scrap of an existing creature and some spare energy. This makes these stones popular among hospitals as healing devices, and among governments as cloning devices. Persons simply holding the stone in their hand without intentionally summoning anything tend to receive skin growths. Pure energy with no instructions, out of a battery for instance, results in ash.

Hellmetal- Found only around the same layers as Hell, this crimson metal is stronger than steel. It can also be used to manipulate physical matter in a number of ways, including movement, reshaping, heating, and conversion into other matter. Much like the stones, it saps energy to do this, and defaults to heating itself. As for instructions, movement and heating only require the same knowledge needed to do so with spirit crystals. Reshaping requires a detailed anatomy/geometry of whatever you’re reshaping and whatever you’re reshaping it to, but not the elements. Any size differences result in density differences. Matter conversion requires knowing the elements in both whatever object you’re converting and whatever you’re converting it to, but not the anatomy if it remains the same shape. Demon pitchforks are made of this metal.

Brimstone- Found only at the same layers as Hellmetal, it looks like jagged, reddish-brown stone when found unaltered, but like a yellow crystal when cut and polished. Unlike the other materials, it does not sap energy, but allows the caster to store energy inside it and retrieve it later. The caster need only know that they can do that, and will themselves to do so. If it is cracked or broken while energy is inside it, the energy will be released outward from the damaged area as kinetic energy. In Hell, the uncut version is as common as dirt.

Ghosts/Spirits/Souls/etc.

(Sorry if I over-explain this part. These are just really nebulous terms for me and have way too many different meanings.)

Ghosts in this work are made (at least mostly) of electrical energy, and are the life force of all creatures. They’re the “software” of both the mind and body, and contain the genetic information of the original body. They also contain the memories and personality of their original self, and are separated from the body upon death. While the body sleeps, or is dead-but-still-revivable, chunks of the ghost may be found far from the body, but still attached by a string of energy. Computers and machines also have souls, but these do not contain genetic information unless specifically stored in the data by the programmer or the user.

Ghosts can float around, go through some walls, as well as see, touch, and fuse with other ghosts, living or dead. Willingly or not, they can enter new bodies that lack a soul. They can also use magic stones, intentionally or otherwise. Ghosts can split themselves into smaller portions, allowing fusions to be undone and powers to be passed on to living successors. Due to containing instructions on how to build their previous body, they can make new bodies using creation stones.

Ghosts can only go through air, conductive liquids, and conductive solids. Dry wood, most types of stone, plastics, and EM fields are all impassable. Ghosts can be resisted by other ghosts. A body is only usable on its own if it can conduct electricity, has fully functional movement hardware, and can sustain itself. (In other words, a freshly-dead/freshly-created corpse or a robot is fine, but a completely rigormortised one or a skeleton is unusable without a magic stone.) Using a magic stone actually spends the energy that the ghost is made of, and ghosts can completely destroy themselves (essentially dying again) by casting too hard. This also happens when trying to summon a new body without using angelbone or otherwise outside energy.

Ghosts cannot be seen, heard, or felt, except by other ghosts and devices specifically designed to see them. They cannot move objects without the use of a magic stone, and cannot feel objects that they can pass through. Objects they can’t pass through can be used as weapons against them. Their energy can be manipulated, and even spent, by magic stones even when they are not the caster. If they are completely spent, they lose consciousness forever. This also happens if they are completely ionized, meaning plasma and fire can also hurt them.

Astral Projection

Through thorough practice, one can cause their ghost to awaken during sleep without waking the physical body. They can then allow a chunk of their ghost to, while still attached, float away and do ghosty things. Ghosts of two sleeping persons can fuse, but this fusion is ripped back in two as soon as both bodies are awake.

Fusion

When two ghosts fuse, the fusion has the combined stats, size, lifespan, and abilities of both creatures. (Essentially, a human and an animal result in a tall anthropomorphic animal, while a human and a human result in a “double-human” or a giant.) They will also have the personality traits of both, and conflicting traits may result in inner conflict. In a physical body, certain abilities may still result in certain weaknesses. For instance, a harpy’s flight ability results in a weakness to physical damage, while a dryad’s tough wooden body results in a weakness to fire.

Prayer

The rules depend on exactly who a person is praying to and what the desired effect is.

On the surface, one praying aloud to God or to the angels may result in them hearing said prayers, as Earth is always monitored by Haven. Whether or not they respond depends on the severity of the situation, whether or not the desired result aligns with their goals, and whether or not it is within their power as fully-biological creatures.

Praying aloud to the spirits of the dead can also result in those prayers being heard, as nearby ghosts can still see and hear the living. Their response also depends on circumstance, personal preference, and what power they have as a ghost.

Praying silently or without response can still grant oneself a boost in strength, endurance, or confidence, due to the power of belief.

The Undead

Zombies- The result of a magic user attempting to repair and revive someone after they are already dead and spoiling. A zombie has no memories if their brain was regrown. Even when they do, a zombie has a completely different soul, and is incredibly sick, often to the point of acting like a feral or rabid animal. Zombies have compulsory cannibalistic tendencies due to being deficient in nearly all of their nutrients. They foam at the mouth, and can spread their sickness to living beings. A living person infected with the disease will show all of the symptoms except for the rigormortis and cannibalism. A similar disease can come from radiation, causing RadZombies.

Revenants- The result of a waking ghost using a Spirit Crystal or a chunk of Hellmetal to inhabit their old body after death. Has the sentience and physicality of a person, the appearance, smell, and eventually movement problems of a zombie, and the energy limit of a ghost. Immune to bodily pain but still weak to attacks that ghosts are weak to. The body can also be damaged to the point of being unusable.

Puppets- The result of a ghost using Spirit Crystals or Hellmetal to move around a dummy or a pile of gunk. Often mistaken for a golem. Destroying the body does little to inconvenience the ghost.

Golems

The result of a summoner knowing the biology of a creature but not the elements. Has skin, bones, muscles, etc. but they’re made of weird materials like mud, clay, slime and/or silicone. Can either stay alive for many years or for only a few minutes, depending on the abilities and priorities of the caster. Golems also range from fully-sentient synthetic humanoids to barely-alive killing machines, based on these same things. Has a soul, but may or may not have a genetic code.

Biological Powers

These are moreso writing rules than in-universe rules.

A biological power can be either

A) Based on a real-world animal, even if not operating the same way (for example, electricity or regeneration)

B) Based on already-established fantasy elements (such as having a type of magic stone be part of their body) or

C) Justifiable through science-babble. (For instance, “this creature shoots fire by expelling flammable gas and then igniting it with an electric shock”)

Technology

Must either be

A) Based on something that already exists in science or sci-fi

B) Combining science with an established fantasy element, or

C) Justifiable through science-babble.

Time Travel

Much like in Homestuck, stable loops, retcons, and offshoots are all possible. Retcons can only be achieved through sympathetic magic. Stable loops are achieved by extensively studying (or ignoring) what one already did, and then going back and doing it. Offshoots are created by intentionally changing something or by trying and failing to complete a stable loop. There is no alpha timeline nor are there doomed timelines in the traditional sense.

Retconned timelines will be remembered by some and forgotten by others, seemingly at random. Characters created through retcons will not remember times when they did not exist. Offshoot timelines are only remembered by the time traveler.

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